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    cpa1965
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 11:05 AM ET #51

    Collins has got to get old someday.  Maybe this year will be the year Tenn decides he should have retired last year.
    Steel -6
     
    Laying off the totals until we see what O's are in synch or not.
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    Collins has got to get old someday.  Maybe this year will be the year Tenn decides he should have retired last year.
    Steel -6
     
    Laying off the totals until we see what O's are in synch or not.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 11:51 AM ET #52

    Are you ready for some FOOTBALL!!!!!!
     
    Life is good. Have to roll with the champs on this one. Good luck everyone!
     
    Pitt -6 and leaning on the Over
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    Are you ready for some FOOTBALL!!!!!!
     
    Life is good. Have to roll with the champs on this one. Good luck everyone!
     
    Pitt -6 and leaning on the Over
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 12:26 PM ET #53

    Going against the public here and remembering the TITANS +6
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    Going against the public here and remembering the TITANS +6
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 12:35 PM ET #54

    How can you not like the over 35. First game of the season and the scoring is gonna rack up............ here come the espn highlights 
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    How can you not like the over 35. First game of the season and the scoring is gonna rack up............ here come the espn highlights 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 12:45 PM ET #55

    Change of heart for me, OVER seems to be the play here! 
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    Change of heart for me, OVER seems to be the play here! 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 12:47 PM ET #56

    Did all the research on this one and it's a big conflict. Pitt wins at home, Pitt wins home openers big. Tenn has played spoiler in big games and has an equally talented defense. Tenn pre-season totals have all gone over 40 total, Pitts pre-season totals have all been under 31. I was leaning heavily on the under as neither team has a pocket full of explosive plays and both have similar conservative styles of play. Don't like the team pick here, but if my hand was forced I'd take home field and experience and lay the 6.
     
    My play is Under 35
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    Did all the research on this one and it's a big conflict. Pitt wins at home, Pitt wins home openers big. Tenn has played spoiler in big games and has an equally talented defense. Tenn pre-season totals have all gone over 40 total, Pitts pre-season totals have all been under 31. I was leaning heavily on the under as neither team has a pocket full of explosive plays and both have similar conservative styles of play. Don't like the team pick here, but if my hand was forced I'd take home field and experience and lay the 6.
     
    My play is Under 35
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 12:49 PM ET #57

    UNDER 35, simply for two strong defensive teams and early in the season, D should control the tempo as Offense may not be clicking just yet. 
     
    Going against the public and the linemovement telling me to go UNDER!!!
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    UNDER 35, simply for two strong defensive teams and early in the season, D should control the tempo as Offense may not be clicking just yet. 
     
    Going against the public and the linemovement telling me to go UNDER!!!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 1:18 PM ET #58

     Here is your rekamyenoM 
     
     Pitts Over 3.5 Q1
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     Here is your rekamyenoM 
     
     Pitts Over 3.5 Q1
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 1:22 PM ET #59

    Both teams are coming off great seasons, although the Titans didn’t get it done in the playoffs. Tennessee likes to play power football and so do the Steelers. The interesting matchup will be Pittsburgh’s outstanding run defense versus the Titans’ running game with Chris Johnson and LenDale White.
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    Both teams are coming off great seasons, although the Titans didn’t get it done in the playoffs. Tennessee likes to play power football and so do the Steelers. The interesting matchup will be Pittsburgh’s outstanding run defense versus the Titans’ running game with Chris Johnson and LenDale White.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 1:32 PM ET #60

    Tenn +6.5 and over 35.
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    Tenn +6.5 and over 35.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 1:51 PM ET #61

    Boy lots of over talk.  I am going to go the other way and say these 2 teams go UNDER 35.5.  No points scored in the 1st quarter at all.  Low scoring game I am going to take the 6.5 as well.
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    Boy lots of over talk.  I am going to go the other way and say these 2 teams go UNDER 35.5.  No points scored in the 1st quarter at all.  Low scoring game I am going to take the 6.5 as well.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 1:58 PM ET #62

    PITTS -6.5 & OVR

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    PITTS -6.5 & OVR

     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 2:12 PM ET #63

    Tennessee +6.5
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    Tennessee +6.5
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 2:24 PM ET #64

    Quote Originally Posted by Bringiton_01:

    Did all the research on this one and it's a big conflict. Pitt wins at home, Pitt wins home openers big. Tenn has played spoiler in big games and has an equally talented defense. Tenn pre-season totals have all gone over 40 total, Pitts pre-season totals have all been under 31. I was leaning heavily on the under as neither team has a pocket full of explosive plays and both have similar conservative styles of play. Don't like the team pick here, but if my hand was forced I'd take home field and experience and lay the 6.
     
    My play is Under 35

    WHAT? An equally talented defense. What have you been smoking? Pittsburgh almost (came up 55 rush yards allowed short) did something last year that hadn't been done since the 1991 Eagles (lead the league in fewest yards allowed overall, vs. the run, and vs. the pass). They also led the league in fewest points allowed last year too. Tennessee has a solid defense, but they just lost Haynesworth to free agency. He was easily their best defensive player last year because he commands double and sometimes triple teams. They are nowhere near Pittsburgh when it comes to defense. The only team that does is Baltimore. And I just threw up a little typing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bringiton_01:

    Did all the research on this one and it's a big conflict. Pitt wins at home, Pitt wins home openers big. Tenn has played spoiler in big games and has an equally talented defense. Tenn pre-season totals have all gone over 40 total, Pitts pre-season totals have all been under 31. I was leaning heavily on the under as neither team has a pocket full of explosive plays and both have similar conservative styles of play. Don't like the team pick here, but if my hand was forced I'd take home field and experience and lay the 6.
     
    My play is Under 35

    WHAT? An equally talented defense. What have you been smoking? Pittsburgh almost (came up 55 rush yards allowed short) did something last year that hadn't been done since the 1991 Eagles (lead the league in fewest yards allowed overall, vs. the run, and vs. the pass). They also led the league in fewest points allowed last year too. Tennessee has a solid defense, but they just lost Haynesworth to free agency. He was easily their best defensive player last year because he commands double and sometimes triple teams. They are nowhere near Pittsburgh when it comes to defense. The only team that does is Baltimore. And I just threw up a little typing that.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 2:25 PM ET #65

    UNDER UNDER UNDER
    Final total Pitts 17 Tenn 10
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    UNDER UNDER UNDER
    Final total Pitts 17 Tenn 10
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 2:42 PM ET #66

    Hmm....

    Superbowl champions, at home (in Pitt with those fans after the terrible towel stomping)

    most starters are returning... like everyone...  on the leagues most dominant defense.... best against the pass and run.

    a defensive player of the year.... a safety that could win defensive player of the year every year.... a superbowl mvp..... 2 good running backs.... .questionable o-line.... good receivers.... and Big Ben.....

    I think Pitt wins by more than a touchdown...

    lay the chalk....

    Pitt -6.5
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    Hmm....

    Superbowl champions, at home (in Pitt with those fans after the terrible towel stomping)

    most starters are returning... like everyone...  on the leagues most dominant defense.... best against the pass and run.

    a defensive player of the year.... a safety that could win defensive player of the year every year.... a superbowl mvp..... 2 good running backs.... .questionable o-line.... good receivers.... and Big Ben.....

    I think Pitt wins by more than a touchdown...

    lay the chalk....

    Pitt -6.5
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 3:37 PM ET #67

    Tenn +6.5

    Tennessee didn't have Haynesworth in the game last year and still handled the O-line of Pittsburgh. Tennessee has much better talent on Offense this year than last season and should be able to run the ball effectively with White and Johnson. Also, I don't know if I would like it but we could see VY in the "wildcat" for a few plays. This could catch the Steelers off guard or backfire like an old cluncker!

    To many points in this one for the team that had the best record in football last season and a coach that knows how to prepare his team for the road. I think the game will be close and the Titans could win outright but looking at the Steelers winning on late FG.

     GLTA


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    Tenn +6.5

    Tennessee didn't have Haynesworth in the game last year and still handled the O-line of Pittsburgh. Tennessee has much better talent on Offense this year than last season and should be able to run the ball effectively with White and Johnson. Also, I don't know if I would like it but we could see VY in the "wildcat" for a few plays. This could catch the Steelers off guard or backfire like an old cluncker!

    To many points in this one for the team that had the best record in football last season and a coach that knows how to prepare his team for the road. I think the game will be close and the Titans could win outright but looking at the Steelers winning on late FG.

     GLTA


     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 3:38 PM ET #68

    pitt has the revenge factor, crazy homers very loud, pitt qb has something to prove and they are national champions until they're not.

    tn is very deep on the o side,they're deep period and actually spent bucks on some WR this season, but with a good DL Albert Haynesworth well be missed and it will show on the scoreboard. the monster had 2 men, sometimes 3 on him and he still got to the qb and/or ball. Huge, huge shoes left unfilled and I have serious doubts about TN qb performance this year after winning more games in  the egular season than anyone thanks to ALBERT!

    Pittsburg and Over for me, good luck to you. GET SOME!
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    pitt has the revenge factor, crazy homers very loud, pitt qb has something to prove and they are national champions until they're not.

    tn is very deep on the o side,they're deep period and actually spent bucks on some WR this season, but with a good DL Albert Haynesworth well be missed and it will show on the scoreboard. the monster had 2 men, sometimes 3 on him and he still got to the qb and/or ball. Huge, huge shoes left unfilled and I have serious doubts about TN qb performance this year after winning more games in  the egular season than anyone thanks to ALBERT!

    Pittsburg and Over for me, good luck to you. GET SOME!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 3:46 PM ET #69

    YTD 0-0
     
    Tennesee 12
    Pitt  10
     
    S. Fischer knows the Steelers....
    Two great tough teams that will keep this game low scoring.....
    I think QB Terry Collins has more to prove than Big Ben...
     
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    YTD 0-0
     
    Tennesee 12
    Pitt  10
     
    S. Fischer knows the Steelers....
    Two great tough teams that will keep this game low scoring.....
    I think QB Terry Collins has more to prove than Big Ben...
     
    Tennesee +6  AND Being a raven fan, lunch money on ML
     
    NFL thank you
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 3:57 PM ET #70

    I'm liking the Titans +6.5 and over 35
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    I'm liking the Titans +6.5 and over 35
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 3:58 PM ET #71

    Titans have many more offensive weapons this year. I predict Javon Ringer will take Lendale White's spot in a year or less.  Better receivers too.  Also, do not factor in missing Haynesworth. Titans D will be just fine without him.  I'm taking the OVER.  Revenge factor will be big for Pitt and they will want to run up the score.  Should be a great game and thank gawd football is here.

    Have a great season everyone.

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    Titans have many more offensive weapons this year. I predict Javon Ringer will take Lendale White's spot in a year or less.  Better receivers too.  Also, do not factor in missing Haynesworth. Titans D will be just fine without him.  I'm taking the OVER.  Revenge factor will be big for Pitt and they will want to run up the score.  Should be a great game and thank gawd football is here.

    Have a great season everyone.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 4:20 PM ET #72

    Why is everyone on the Titans offenses' nuts? Their running game is very very good but if you think Kerry Collins can duplicate the year he had last year then you're nucking futs.
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    Why is everyone on the Titans offenses' nuts? Their running game is very very good but if you think Kerry Collins can duplicate the year he had last year then you're nucking futs.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 4:35 PM ET #73

    I'm going with the titans +6.5 ...thier just as talented and i believe thier offense is better this year.
     
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    I'm going with the titans +6.5 ...thier just as talented and i believe thier offense is better this year.
     
    Always go against the super bowl champs the first game.
     
    Good luck
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 4:51 PM ET #74

    riding the over 35.5
     
    first game of the year should have some fire works with all these players jacked up.  tomlin tried to down play the whole towel stomp, but i doubt the players feel that way.  both teams also have opportunistic defenses which should lead to more offensive opportunities.
     
    GL everyone
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    riding the over 35.5
     
    first game of the year should have some fire works with all these players jacked up.  tomlin tried to down play the whole towel stomp, but i doubt the players feel that way.  both teams also have opportunistic defenses which should lead to more offensive opportunities.
     
    GL everyone
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 4:54 PM ET #75

    Quote Originally Posted by stalker:

    I think last years game between these teams is a little misleading. The Titans forced 5 fumbles (recovered two) and had two interceptions in that game which basically was the difference. They didn't run the ball that well, 31 carries-117 yards, good for an average of 3.8 yards per attempt. And I don't think the Titans will be able to control the clock in this game. In fact they didn't even control the clock in last year's game and the Steelers D should be even better this year. Plus that game was played in Tennessee. This game is in Pittsburgh, it's the first game of the year, the Steelers are coming off a Super Bowl win, and they're probably still a little pissed about losing to the Titans last year and watching them stomp, spit and blow their nose on the terrible towel.

    As for Kerry Collins I wouldn't say he rarely  makes mistakes. For his career he almost has a 50:50 td-int ratio (186-179) and his career passer rating is only 73.8. In 6 of the 15 years he's played he's thrown more interceptions than touchdowns. Last year was one of the top 3 seasons of his career and it wasn't even that good of a year (12 td's, 7 int's, 2,676 yards, 58.3% completion rate and a qb rating of 80.2).

    And I don't know why you think Ben was out much of the preseason. He missed one game. But actually played more than expected in the others, especially when Tomlin's main goal was to keep the starters healthy throughout the preseason.

    STEELERS & OVER FOR ME 

    I think the Titans and Kerry Collins fall off a little bit this year. It happens every year when a team that was good one year has a let down year the next and vice versa. The Titans are my choice for being the team that takes a step back this year.

     

    hmmm..i could be wrong but didn't ben sit out the first two preseason game due to a minor injury?? 

    as for pit d being better than last year, we'll have to see..  they maybe better due to another year expereince.. but they are basically fielding the same team...  as is the titans d..  if you look back, haynesworth actually missed that game, and Tn was still about to put pressure on ben and force those fumbles...  jones, who replaced haynesworth, actually played in that game and force 3 of those turnovers.. plus you can actually look at the turnovers in 2 ways.. 1 those turn overs basically shorten the field for both teams.. or 2. those turn over cost them points... in my opinion, it was the former stied of the latter.. so taking that out of the equation do they really score those points..  but who knows...

    as for collins, you really can't compare his stats when he was starting b4 in oakland, ny and now...  in oakland, and ny he was expected to win games with his arm..  in TN he expected to manage the game.. 

    as far as i see, both them will pound the ball..  it will come down to a battle of the trenches..  i see it farely even when TN got the ball.. but when pits has the ball, TN dline has the upper hand...  rememeber that the steelers o line was one of the worst last year..  and ben was running for is life alot of the time.. its basically the same line back this year.. the oline gave up 49 sacks last year compare to the 12 tn oline gave up... 

    all in all.. it should be a very defensive game here...  defence with championship and that what these two teams are built on...  of course all this is one man opinion...  and i wish you all the best on you plays..  as for me..  i'm staying on the under here.. and relying on the strength of these two teams, their defence, to keep things close.. and low..

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    Quote Originally Posted by stalker:

    I think last years game between these teams is a little misleading. The Titans forced 5 fumbles (recovered two) and had two interceptions in that game which basically was the difference. They didn't run the ball that well, 31 carries-117 yards, good for an average of 3.8 yards per attempt. And I don't think the Titans will be able to control the clock in this game. In fact they didn't even control the clock in last year's game and the Steelers D should be even better this year. Plus that game was played in Tennessee. This game is in Pittsburgh, it's the first game of the year, the Steelers are coming off a Super Bowl win, and they're probably still a little pissed about losing to the Titans last year and watching them stomp, spit and blow their nose on the terrible towel.

    As for Kerry Collins I wouldn't say he rarely  makes mistakes. For his career he almost has a 50:50 td-int ratio (186-179) and his career passer rating is only 73.8. In 6 of the 15 years he's played he's thrown more interceptions than touchdowns. Last year was one of the top 3 seasons of his career and it wasn't even that good of a year (12 td's, 7 int's, 2,676 yards, 58.3% completion rate and a qb rating of 80.2).

    And I don't know why you think Ben was out much of the preseason. He missed one game. But actually played more than expected in the others, especially when Tomlin's main goal was to keep the starters healthy throughout the preseason.

    STEELERS & OVER FOR ME 

    I think the Titans and Kerry Collins fall off a little bit this year. It happens every year when a team that was good one year has a let down year the next and vice versa. The Titans are my choice for being the team that takes a step back this year.

     

    hmmm..i could be wrong but didn't ben sit out the first two preseason game due to a minor injury?? 

    as for pit d being better than last year, we'll have to see..  they maybe better due to another year expereince.. but they are basically fielding the same team...  as is the titans d..  if you look back, haynesworth actually missed that game, and Tn was still about to put pressure on ben and force those fumbles...  jones, who replaced haynesworth, actually played in that game and force 3 of those turnovers.. plus you can actually look at the turnovers in 2 ways.. 1 those turn overs basically shorten the field for both teams.. or 2. those turn over cost them points... in my opinion, it was the former stied of the latter.. so taking that out of the equation do they really score those points..  but who knows...

    as for collins, you really can't compare his stats when he was starting b4 in oakland, ny and now...  in oakland, and ny he was expected to win games with his arm..  in TN he expected to manage the game.. 

    as far as i see, both them will pound the ball..  it will come down to a battle of the trenches..  i see it farely even when TN got the ball.. but when pits has the ball, TN dline has the upper hand...  rememeber that the steelers o line was one of the worst last year..  and ben was running for is life alot of the time.. its basically the same line back this year.. the oline gave up 49 sacks last year compare to the 12 tn oline gave up... 

    all in all.. it should be a very defensive game here...  defence with championship and that what these two teams are built on...  of course all this is one man opinion...  and i wish you all the best on you plays..  as for me..  i'm staying on the under here.. and relying on the strength of these two teams, their defence, to keep things close.. and low..

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