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    Tampa Bay at Carolina (12/08/2008)

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    chad2322
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2008 - 3:40 PM ET #76

    Quote Originally Posted by rick3117:

    top right corner 
    click my space
    look by  the blank picture area
    click edit
     
    go to browse
    find the picture on your hard drive
    click ok
     
    (something like that)
     
    assuming you ment Avitar
     
     

    Thanks rick. yup i have horrible spelling for sure, but im beating the shit out of my crookie, so ill take the money instead.  Hey if this game was a pick at neutral location.. who would you take sir?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick3117:

    top right corner 
    click my space
    look by  the blank picture area
    click edit
     
    go to browse
    find the picture on your hard drive
    click ok
     
    (something like that)
     
    assuming you ment Avitar
     
     

    Thanks rick. yup i have horrible spelling for sure, but im beating the shit out of my crookie, so ill take the money instead.  Hey if this game was a pick at neutral location.. who would you take sir?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2008 - 3:46 PM ET #77

    Carolina
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    Carolina
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2008 - 3:56 PM ET #78

    beer and MNF what else can i say!!! BUC and under
     
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    beer and MNF what else can i say!!! BUC and under
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2008 - 3:56 PM ET #79

    goinggone w/you tb/un!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    goinggone w/you tb/un!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2008 - 4:05 PM ET #80

    tough game to cap.. both teams r pretty even.. its also a division game between two 9-3 teams fighting for, most likely, NFC South Title.

     

    should be pick em, but -3 for home game (carolina 6-0 at home)

     

    line is holding steady and people are split about 46-54 % for car.

     

    the line dropped to -3.5 but came back to -3.. which means people think its gonna be a field goal game...

     

    i would take the Bucs here either with the +3 or MoneyLine +155.

     

    its either gonna be a close game or a blow out by the bucs, again.

     

    I can't see the Pathers blowing out the Tampa.. not with Tampa's stout D.

     

    So there is value on betting on the Bucs. Small Play.

     

    Both teams have good defense, but in a NFC South divisional game this season, i think the offense scores about 20 each... so over looks appealing, too (especially considering the MNF over trend)

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    tough game to cap.. both teams r pretty even.. its also a division game between two 9-3 teams fighting for, most likely, NFC South Title.

     

    should be pick em, but -3 for home game (carolina 6-0 at home)

     

    line is holding steady and people are split about 46-54 % for car.

     

    the line dropped to -3.5 but came back to -3.. which means people think its gonna be a field goal game...

     

    i would take the Bucs here either with the +3 or MoneyLine +155.

     

    its either gonna be a close game or a blow out by the bucs, again.

     

    I can't see the Pathers blowing out the Tampa.. not with Tampa's stout D.

     

    So there is value on betting on the Bucs. Small Play.

     

    Both teams have good defense, but in a NFC South divisional game this season, i think the offense scores about 20 each... so over looks appealing, too (especially considering the MNF over trend)

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2008 - 4:08 PM ET #81

    not Pathers... should be Panthers.
     
    play is still for the Bucs ! =)
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    not Pathers... should be Panthers.
     
    play is still for the Bucs ! =)
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2008 - 4:08 PM ET #82

    Neutral field= TB
    @ carolina = TB
    on the friggin moon= TB
     
    outright winner +155
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    Neutral field= TB
    @ carolina = TB
    on the friggin moon= TB
     
    outright winner +155
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2008 - 4:10 PM ET #83

    TAMPA MONEY LINE GARCIA GRUDEN DUNN TIGHT DEFENSE HEY WHAT ELSE CAN I SAY       PLUS 155
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    TAMPA MONEY LINE GARCIA GRUDEN DUNN TIGHT DEFENSE HEY WHAT ELSE CAN I SAY       PLUS 155
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2008 - 4:11 PM ET #84

    OVER OVER OVER OVER OVER OVER OVER DUH DUMMY
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    OVER OVER OVER OVER OVER OVER OVER DUH DUMMY
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2008 - 4:14 PM ET #85

    Im on the other side on the total.
     
     
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    Im on the other side on the total.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2008 - 4:17 PM ET #86

    I know you guys look at trends right??
     

    • Over is 8-2 in TB last 10 road games.
    • Under is 6-2 in TB last 8 Mon. games.
    • Under is 6-2 in TB last 8 games overall.
    • Under is 7-2 in CAR last 9 vs. NFC South.
    • Under is 10-3 in CAR last 13 home games.
    • CAR are 9-3-1 ATS in their last 13 games on grass.
    • Underdog is 8-3 ATS in their last 11 meetings.
    • Under is 11-5 in the last 16 meetings.

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    I know you guys look at trends right??
     

    • Over is 8-2 in TB last 10 road games.
    • Under is 6-2 in TB last 8 Mon. games.
    • Under is 6-2 in TB last 8 games overall.
    • Under is 7-2 in CAR last 9 vs. NFC South.
    • Under is 10-3 in CAR last 13 home games.
    • CAR are 9-3-1 ATS in their last 13 games on grass.
    • Underdog is 8-3 ATS in their last 11 meetings.
    • Under is 11-5 in the last 16 meetings.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2008 - 4:19 PM ET #87

    that didnt paste well.
     
    eh
    oh well you get the point
     
     
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    that didnt paste well.
     
    eh
    oh well you get the point
     
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2008 - 4:42 PM ET #88

    panthers win and cover.  this is why.......  both defenses will try and keep thier offenses on the field.  first half very tight conservative play its all about ball advancements and keeping the other teams defense on the field and tired. carolina will do this by running the ball and short screens to move the chains. the number 4 ranked defense of the bucs is going to be tested all game but the harder test is the first half. ALTHOUGH THE TREND ALL YEAR HAS BEEN OVER ON MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL, THIS GAME WILL END UP AT 37 OR 38 POINTS PERIOD VEGAS CAPS CAROLINA HOME GAMES TO A CAPITAL T. THE  HIDDEN TREND THAT I HAVE NOTICED ON MONDAYS IS HOW THE HOME TEAMS DEFENSE STEPS UP TREMEDOUSLY( I.E. CLEVELAND V.S. NEW YORK AND THIS PAST MONDAY WITH THE TEXANS ALTHOUGH AT THE END THE DEFENSE GOT SLUGGISH BECAUSE OF THE LEAD)
     PANTHER 21 BUCCOS 17 MAYBE EVEN 24 TO 14 PANTHERS EITHER WAY ITS GONNA BE 38 TOTAL
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    panthers win and cover.  this is why.......  both defenses will try and keep thier offenses on the field.  first half very tight conservative play its all about ball advancements and keeping the other teams defense on the field and tired. carolina will do this by running the ball and short screens to move the chains. the number 4 ranked defense of the bucs is going to be tested all game but the harder test is the first half. ALTHOUGH THE TREND ALL YEAR HAS BEEN OVER ON MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL, THIS GAME WILL END UP AT 37 OR 38 POINTS PERIOD VEGAS CAPS CAROLINA HOME GAMES TO A CAPITAL T. THE  HIDDEN TREND THAT I HAVE NOTICED ON MONDAYS IS HOW THE HOME TEAMS DEFENSE STEPS UP TREMEDOUSLY( I.E. CLEVELAND V.S. NEW YORK AND THIS PAST MONDAY WITH THE TEXANS ALTHOUGH AT THE END THE DEFENSE GOT SLUGGISH BECAUSE OF THE LEAD)
     PANTHER 21 BUCCOS 17 MAYBE EVEN 24 TO 14 PANTHERS EITHER WAY ITS GONNA BE 38 TOTAL
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2008 - 4:46 PM ET #89

    BUCCS
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    BUCCS
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2008 - 4:46 PM ET #90

    And the Over
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    And the Over
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2008 - 4:56 PM ET #91

    HOME TEAM ON MONDAY NIGHT AND THE OVER IS A LOCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    HOME TEAM ON MONDAY NIGHT AND THE OVER IS A LOCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2008 - 4:58 PM ET #92

    NFC SOUTH OPPONENTS HAVE  PUT UP A STAGGERING 16 POINTS IN CAROLINA HOME GAMES. AND THAT WAS THE SAINTS POWERFUL OFFENSE THAT PUT UP 7 AT CAROLINA AND 20 AT THE TAMPA HOUSE OF FOOTBALL. THE OTHER TEAM WAS THE FALCONS WHO PUT UP 9.  IM NOT SURE IF TAMPA PLAYED ATLANTA YET AT HOME BUT I KNOW THAT THE SAINTS ARE HORRIBLE ON THE ROAD AND FOR THEM TO GO INTO TAMPA AND PUT UP 20 AGAINST THE NUMBER 4 DEFENSE OF THE SO MIGHTY BUCCANEERS, WHAT MAKES ANYONE BELIEVE THAT CAROLINA CANT PUT UP AT LEAST 20 PLUS AT HOME AGAINST THE NUMBER 4 DEFENSE. ESPECIALLY SINCE PANTHERS GOT THRASHED IN TAMPA BY 24. REVENGE IS SO SWEET    PANTHERS -3 FOR ME AND THE UNDER 39 IF ANYBODY CAN GIVE ME ONEGOOD REASON NOT TO MAKE THIS PLAY PLEASE RUFUTE MY ARGUMENTS
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    NFC SOUTH OPPONENTS HAVE  PUT UP A STAGGERING 16 POINTS IN CAROLINA HOME GAMES. AND THAT WAS THE SAINTS POWERFUL OFFENSE THAT PUT UP 7 AT CAROLINA AND 20 AT THE TAMPA HOUSE OF FOOTBALL. THE OTHER TEAM WAS THE FALCONS WHO PUT UP 9.  IM NOT SURE IF TAMPA PLAYED ATLANTA YET AT HOME BUT I KNOW THAT THE SAINTS ARE HORRIBLE ON THE ROAD AND FOR THEM TO GO INTO TAMPA AND PUT UP 20 AGAINST THE NUMBER 4 DEFENSE OF THE SO MIGHTY BUCCANEERS, WHAT MAKES ANYONE BELIEVE THAT CAROLINA CANT PUT UP AT LEAST 20 PLUS AT HOME AGAINST THE NUMBER 4 DEFENSE. ESPECIALLY SINCE PANTHERS GOT THRASHED IN TAMPA BY 24. REVENGE IS SO SWEET    PANTHERS -3 FOR ME AND THE UNDER 39 IF ANYBODY CAN GIVE ME ONEGOOD REASON NOT TO MAKE THIS PLAY PLEASE RUFUTE MY ARGUMENTS
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2008 - 5:00 PM ET #93

    I apologize to all those who were lucky enough to get Panthers -2.5..
    I obviously cant and my juice is 125....So I assumed the line was moving toward 3.5 and I still think it is....Anyway GL to all
    Panthers -2 half
    Panthers -3 gm

    Home team is the more desperate team here...Can not lose this game and hope to get a playoff bid while TB can...
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    I apologize to all those who were lucky enough to get Panthers -2.5..
    I obviously cant and my juice is 125....So I assumed the line was moving toward 3.5 and I still think it is....Anyway GL to all
    Panthers -2 half
    Panthers -3 gm

    Home team is the more desperate team here...Can not lose this game and hope to get a playoff bid while TB can...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2008 - 5:01 PM ET #94

    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddyhpd:

    The Panthers tend to start off strong in the first half in home games. Not much more to add to what has already been said but I'm leaning on taking the Panthers in the 1st half.

    Welcome back Big Daddy...I hope things are better..
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddyhpd:

    The Panthers tend to start off strong in the first half in home games. Not much more to add to what has already been said but I'm leaning on taking the Panthers in the 1st half.

    Welcome back Big Daddy...I hope things are better..
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2008 - 5:02 PM ET #95

    Rick, How come you left this trend out of your post?
     
    Buccaneers are 2-5 ATS in their last 7 meetings in Carolina.
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    Rick, How come you left this trend out of your post?
     
    Buccaneers are 2-5 ATS in their last 7 meetings in Carolina.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2008 - 5:11 PM ET #96

    Quote Originally Posted by Milkmoney67:

    NFC SOUTH OPPONENTS HAVE  PUT UP A STAGGERING 16 POINTS IN CAROLINA HOME GAMES. AND THAT WAS THE SAINTS POWERFUL OFFENSE THAT PUT UP 7 AT CAROLINA AND 20 AT THE TAMPA HOUSE OF FOOTBALL. THE OTHER TEAM WAS THE FALCONS WHO PUT UP 9.  IM NOT SURE IF TAMPA PLAYED ATLANTA YET AT HOME BUT I KNOW THAT THE SAINTS ARE HORRIBLE ON THE ROAD AND FOR THEM TO GO INTO TAMPA AND PUT UP 20 AGAINST THE NUMBER 4 DEFENSE OF THE SO MIGHTY BUCCANEERS, WHAT MAKES ANYONE BELIEVE THAT CAROLINA CANT PUT UP AT LEAST 20 PLUS AT HOME AGAINST THE NUMBER 4 DEFENSE. ESPECIALLY SINCE PANTHERS GOT THRASHED IN TAMPA BY 24. REVENGE IS SO SWEET    PANTHERS -3 FOR ME AND THE UNDER 39 IF ANYBODY CAN GIVE ME ONEGOOD REASON NOT TO MAKE THIS PLAY PLEASE RUFUTE MY ARGUMENTS

    I agree with what your saying... I am kinda leaning the same way as you...... The Panthers will probably take this at home...

    but the one thing you are not accounting for is that this is Monday Football.... and crazy shit happens.... like the Cleveland Browns beating the Giants....

    judging by your strong opinion I would recommend for you to just bet on the side and not the total...

    TB is GREAT at home.... not so great on the road... but they still have playmakers...

    so Jake Delhomme is more than capable of playing like he did in Oakland and throwing an Early pick to the crib and then Carolina having to open up early...

    personally I can't look away from the Panthers Home record.... I'm a trend bettor so I know most people don't agree... but that stat shows in my opinion that they are the best in the NFL at home right now....plus they are running the ball alot better, the blocking is great.... but these 2 teams are too close for me to bet a side

    plus...... I am horrible at MNF lol.... anyone who knows me on this thread knows how I do well on Sundays, and then Lose my money the next night.... So I will be taking the OVER.... because MNF almost always goes in the OVER and Steve Smith is on the field....

    I recommend due to your strong one-sided post.... go with your guy and take the Panters, stay away from the total... you asked for your arguement to be refuted.... so there ya go lol

    GL TO ALL

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkmoney67:

    NFC SOUTH OPPONENTS HAVE  PUT UP A STAGGERING 16 POINTS IN CAROLINA HOME GAMES. AND THAT WAS THE SAINTS POWERFUL OFFENSE THAT PUT UP 7 AT CAROLINA AND 20 AT THE TAMPA HOUSE OF FOOTBALL. THE OTHER TEAM WAS THE FALCONS WHO PUT UP 9.  IM NOT SURE IF TAMPA PLAYED ATLANTA YET AT HOME BUT I KNOW THAT THE SAINTS ARE HORRIBLE ON THE ROAD AND FOR THEM TO GO INTO TAMPA AND PUT UP 20 AGAINST THE NUMBER 4 DEFENSE OF THE SO MIGHTY BUCCANEERS, WHAT MAKES ANYONE BELIEVE THAT CAROLINA CANT PUT UP AT LEAST 20 PLUS AT HOME AGAINST THE NUMBER 4 DEFENSE. ESPECIALLY SINCE PANTHERS GOT THRASHED IN TAMPA BY 24. REVENGE IS SO SWEET    PANTHERS -3 FOR ME AND THE UNDER 39 IF ANYBODY CAN GIVE ME ONEGOOD REASON NOT TO MAKE THIS PLAY PLEASE RUFUTE MY ARGUMENTS

    I agree with what your saying... I am kinda leaning the same way as you...... The Panthers will probably take this at home...

    but the one thing you are not accounting for is that this is Monday Football.... and crazy shit happens.... like the Cleveland Browns beating the Giants....

    judging by your strong opinion I would recommend for you to just bet on the side and not the total...

    TB is GREAT at home.... not so great on the road... but they still have playmakers...

    so Jake Delhomme is more than capable of playing like he did in Oakland and throwing an Early pick to the crib and then Carolina having to open up early...

    personally I can't look away from the Panthers Home record.... I'm a trend bettor so I know most people don't agree... but that stat shows in my opinion that they are the best in the NFL at home right now....plus they are running the ball alot better, the blocking is great.... but these 2 teams are too close for me to bet a side

    plus...... I am horrible at MNF lol.... anyone who knows me on this thread knows how I do well on Sundays, and then Lose my money the next night.... So I will be taking the OVER.... because MNF almost always goes in the OVER and Steve Smith is on the field....

    I recommend due to your strong one-sided post.... go with your guy and take the Panters, stay away from the total... you asked for your arguement to be refuted.... so there ya go lol

    GL TO ALL

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2008 - 5:11 PM ET #97

    I just posted the ones that were in the covers matchup section.
    under Recent Trends. 
     
     
     
     
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    I just posted the ones that were in the covers matchup section.
    under Recent Trends. 
     
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2008 - 5:12 PM ET #98

    go with your gut****
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    go with your gut****
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2008 - 5:13 PM ET #99

    I guess since 6 of the 7 carolina home victorys took place before 2004 it isnt considered a recent trend.
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    I guess since 6 of the 7 carolina home victorys took place before 2004 it isnt considered a recent trend.
     
     
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    well 1 in 2004
     
    you get the point
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    well 1 in 2004
     
    you get the point
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