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    San Francisco at San Diego (12/16/2010)

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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2010 - 1:37 AM ET #1

    Away:  San Francisco [5-8 ATS]
    Home:  San Diego [7-6 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:20 PM
    Stadium: Qualcomm Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    San Francisco:
    Passing: Alex Smith (1809)
    Rushing: Frank Gore (853)
    Receiving: Vernon Davis (744)

    San Diego:
    Passing: Philip Rivers (3868)
    Rushing: Michael Tolbert (691)
    Receiving: Antonio Gates (782)

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    Away:  San Francisco [5-8 ATS]
    Home:  San Diego [7-6 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:20 PM
    Stadium: Qualcomm Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    San Francisco:
    Passing: Alex Smith (1809)
    Rushing: Frank Gore (853)
    Receiving: Vernon Davis (744)

    San Diego:
    Passing: Philip Rivers (3868)
    Rushing: Michael Tolbert (691)
    Receiving: Antonio Gates (782)

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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2010 - 4:16 AM ET #2

    SF +9 (1unit): the bolts have the better D and better QB, but the niners appear to be surging.
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    SF +9 (1unit): the bolts have the better D and better QB, but the niners appear to be surging.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2010 - 5:22 AM ET #3

    This what I see in this matchup. The most obvious statistic that stood out was the average times per game that the 49ers Offensive Line let their QB get sacked. In the last 5 games win or lose, an average of 3.5 times per game for an average -3 yards per sack. They are now going against a defense that ranks #1 in pass rush and yards per game. #4 against the Rush. Those are impressive #s. They are ranked very similar on the other side of the ball as well, but most importantly, they have had to stay home, on their field which is huge on a short week. That is 1.5 more days to prepare well for your opponent. At this time of the season, all the information such as plays and formations of each team has been taped and can be analyzed by both the Offensive and Defensive Coordinator. EVERYTHING IS OUT OF THE BAG. The men behind the seen for San Diego are one of the best squad in the League. To top it all off, Phillip Rivers is heating up and when he does, it gives his Defense more time to rest and recover. Look at one of the best Defense in the Ravens on Monday Night. Yes they won, but they sure looked very tired. I see a BLOWOUT and I will ride it hard.

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    This what I see in this matchup. The most obvious statistic that stood out was the average times per game that the 49ers Offensive Line let their QB get sacked. In the last 5 games win or lose, an average of 3.5 times per game for an average -3 yards per sack. They are now going against a defense that ranks #1 in pass rush and yards per game. #4 against the Rush. Those are impressive #s. They are ranked very similar on the other side of the ball as well, but most importantly, they have had to stay home, on their field which is huge on a short week. That is 1.5 more days to prepare well for your opponent. At this time of the season, all the information such as plays and formations of each team has been taped and can be analyzed by both the Offensive and Defensive Coordinator. EVERYTHING IS OUT OF THE BAG. The men behind the seen for San Diego are one of the best squad in the League. To top it all off, Phillip Rivers is heating up and when he does, it gives his Defense more time to rest and recover. Look at one of the best Defense in the Ravens on Monday Night. Yes they won, but they sure looked very tired. I see a BLOWOUT and I will ride it hard.

    San Diego  41

    49ers   13
     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2010 - 10:33 AM ET #4

    Chargers are pulling they're typical late season run for the playoffs. They rank in the top 5 of every category, except special teams and turnovers, and I think they've got that figured out now.
    So, the Niners looked strong in their wins against the Cardinals and the Seahawks? Big deal. I see the NFL network is trying to advertise this as some kind of big "tough matchup with playoff possibilities" like it's going to be another Steelers/Ravens. Gimme a break.
    Frank Gore was probably going to be their only hope in this game against this #1 ranked defense, and now he's out for the season. Westbrook's not a power runner (he's more of a finesse guy), and that's what they would have needed against the Chargers.
    Alex Smith, Troy Smith, John Smith, I don't care who you put at QB, this game will be boring by halftime.....


    Chargers first half,
    Chargers -9,
    Chargers team total over (whatever it is, they haven't posted it yet, but I'm thinking like 25 or so),
    and the game over 44.5 - Put all of your eggs in one basket this time! Why not, it's only money people!!!!
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    Chargers are pulling they're typical late season run for the playoffs. They rank in the top 5 of every category, except special teams and turnovers, and I think they've got that figured out now.
    So, the Niners looked strong in their wins against the Cardinals and the Seahawks? Big deal. I see the NFL network is trying to advertise this as some kind of big "tough matchup with playoff possibilities" like it's going to be another Steelers/Ravens. Gimme a break.
    Frank Gore was probably going to be their only hope in this game against this #1 ranked defense, and now he's out for the season. Westbrook's not a power runner (he's more of a finesse guy), and that's what they would have needed against the Chargers.
    Alex Smith, Troy Smith, John Smith, I don't care who you put at QB, this game will be boring by halftime.....


    Chargers first half,
    Chargers -9,
    Chargers team total over (whatever it is, they haven't posted it yet, but I'm thinking like 25 or so),
    and the game over 44.5 - Put all of your eggs in one basket this time! Why not, it's only money people!!!!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2010 - 11:42 AM ET #5

    This one is a no brainer. This 49er team is soft and they only beat up on bad teams. They have not beaten a quality or playoff opponent. They arent going to win the division either. San Diego in the driver seat for their division as we saw what KC looks like without a qb! San Diego and ov for the large! 
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    This one is a no brainer. This 49er team is soft and they only beat up on bad teams. They have not beaten a quality or playoff opponent. They arent going to win the division either. San Diego in the driver seat for their division as we saw what KC looks like without a qb! San Diego and ov for the large! 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2010 - 12:59 PM ET #6

    -9 doesn't scare me...

     

    Especially when 5 out of 7 of their wins are blowouts..

     

    Bolts Baby

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    -9 doesn't scare me...

     

    Especially when 5 out of 7 of their wins are blowouts..

     

    Bolts Baby

     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2010 - 1:24 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by ewillie169:

    SF +9 (1unit): the bolts have the better D and better QB, but the niners appear to be surging.

    No offense Willie, but one win against the seahawks at home should hardly be considered "surging".  The only thing that scares me is that Vegas knows people wanna pile up on SD...wonder if they are setting us up ....

    SAN DIEGO -8.5.......FOR NOW

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    Quote Originally Posted by ewillie169:

    SF +9 (1unit): the bolts have the better D and better QB, but the niners appear to be surging.

    No offense Willie, but one win against the seahawks at home should hardly be considered "surging".  The only thing that scares me is that Vegas knows people wanna pile up on SD...wonder if they are setting us up ....

    SAN DIEGO -8.5.......FOR NOW

     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2010 - 2:48 PM ET #8

    Look at SF last four games, surging? Nice win at home against a very bad road team Seattle, killed at GB, beating terrible Arizona away and losing big at home to TB.  

    The Chargers beating a sad one dimensional KC team after losing to a strong running Oakland team. 

    Not the best play of the week but the Chargers are just too good - lay the points (-8.5). 
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    Look at SF last four games, surging? Nice win at home against a very bad road team Seattle, killed at GB, beating terrible Arizona away and losing big at home to TB.  

    The Chargers beating a sad one dimensional KC team after losing to a strong running Oakland team. 

    Not the best play of the week but the Chargers are just too good - lay the points (-8.5). 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2010 - 6:36 PM ET #9

    Chargers lost to Raiders twice while Niners beat Raiders.  After Chargers surprisingly lost to Raiders at home, who would have confident betting on them.  But most likely, the Chargers will win 34-0 against Niners on this one.  I will stay away from this game just because the Chargers are famous for losing high spread game as a favored team at home.  Just like how the lost to the Jets before the bowl last year.
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    Chargers lost to Raiders twice while Niners beat Raiders.  After Chargers surprisingly lost to Raiders at home, who would have confident betting on them.  But most likely, the Chargers will win 34-0 against Niners on this one.  I will stay away from this game just because the Chargers are famous for losing high spread game as a favored team at home.  Just like how the lost to the Jets before the bowl last year.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2010 - 6:45 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by NEVERgo4less:

    Chargers lost to Raiders twice while Niners beat Raiders.  After Chargers surprisingly lost to Raiders at home, who would have confident betting on them.  But most likely, the Chargers will win 34-0 against Niners on this one.  I will stay away from this game just because the Chargers are famous for losing high spread game as a favored team at home.  Just like how the lost to the Jets before the bowl last year.

    Exactly, this is too soon to call maybe better off to play o/u. Every game is a setup, Balt vs Pitt and Balt vs Houston. That OT touch down look like it been setup. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEVERgo4less:

    Chargers lost to Raiders twice while Niners beat Raiders.  After Chargers surprisingly lost to Raiders at home, who would have confident betting on them.  But most likely, the Chargers will win 34-0 against Niners on this one.  I will stay away from this game just because the Chargers are famous for losing high spread game as a favored team at home.  Just like how the lost to the Jets before the bowl last year.

    Exactly, this is too soon to call maybe better off to play o/u. Every game is a setup, Balt vs Pitt and Balt vs Houston. That OT touch down look like it been setup. LOL

     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2010 - 8:11 PM ET #11

    I feel that the 49ers are coming around but Alex Smith has yet to show he can be consistent. I don't feel the 49ers are built to go score for score but more of a ground and pound grind up the clock to keep the games within reach... They did however light up the scoreboard this past weekend but I cannot see them doing the same against the Chargers.

    The Chargers normally do well around this time and I feel they will come out firing early...

    Leaning on the Chargers in the first half.

     

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    I feel that the 49ers are coming around but Alex Smith has yet to show he can be consistent. I don't feel the 49ers are built to go score for score but more of a ground and pound grind up the clock to keep the games within reach... They did however light up the scoreboard this past weekend but I cannot see them doing the same against the Chargers.

    The Chargers normally do well around this time and I feel they will come out firing early...

    Leaning on the Chargers in the first half.

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2010 - 8:11 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by DrDogs:

    This one is a no brainer. This 49er team is soft and they only beat up on bad teams. They have not beaten a quality or playoff opponent. They arent going to win the division either. San Diego in the driver seat for their division as we saw what KC looks like without a qb! San Diego and ov for the large! 

     good luck brother

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrDogs:

    This one is a no brainer. This 49er team is soft and they only beat up on bad teams. They have not beaten a quality or playoff opponent. They arent going to win the division either. San Diego in the driver seat for their division as we saw what KC looks like without a qb! San Diego and ov for the large! 

     good luck brother

     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2010 - 8:56 PM ET #13

    normally i wouldn't give a tinker's damn about this game--cause in the end neither team isn't going anywhere soon--but it's thurs. and it's a good nite to watch football-so, in a two cockroach race i'll take the one with more legs--chargers small
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    normally i wouldn't give a tinker's damn about this game--cause in the end neither team isn't going anywhere soon--but it's thurs. and it's a good nite to watch football-so, in a two cockroach race i'll take the one with more legs--chargers small
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2010 - 12:05 AM ET #14

    Hoping to see Billy Volek close this one out .. SD 48 SF 17

    Back door last Thursday makes the points look so good this week

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    Hoping to see Billy Volek close this one out .. SD 48 SF 17

    Back door last Thursday makes the points look so good this week

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2010 - 1:04 AM ET #15

    San Diego for sure
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    San Diego for sure
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2010 - 1:20 AM ET #16

    Grass Field and Out Door Stadium. Under looks very good knowing that 49rs might not be able to score a TD against this #1 ranked defense. Short week, lots of traveling, and a QB that is still not settled. No frank Gore and playing a Defense ranked #1 against the pass. 8 -10 points will not be enough. Do not fall for the points cause they might not even score a TD.

    SD Chargers - 17 to 3      @ the half
                             
    SD Chargers - 33 to 6       FINAL
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    Grass Field and Out Door Stadium. Under looks very good knowing that 49rs might not be able to score a TD against this #1 ranked defense. Short week, lots of traveling, and a QB that is still not settled. No frank Gore and playing a Defense ranked #1 against the pass. 8 -10 points will not be enough. Do not fall for the points cause they might not even score a TD.

    SD Chargers - 17 to 3      @ the half
                             
    SD Chargers - 33 to 6       FINAL
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2010 - 5:08 AM ET #17

    Don't overthink this one.................

      BOLTS IN A ROUTE !!

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    Don't overthink this one.................

      BOLTS IN A ROUTE !!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2010 - 9:04 AM ET #18

    Ha I like that wacky crack .....cockroach legs. Well the superchargers will bury those cockroachas!!!!!!  Good luck picky and bigd!
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    Ha I like that wacky crack .....cockroach legs. Well the superchargers will bury those cockroachas!!!!!!  Good luck picky and bigd!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2010 - 11:56 AM ET #19

    i had those same chargers -13 at home against raiders and lost.  took philly -3 versus Dallas and bought the .5 point, thank God!!    Thankfully had G-Men over hapless Yikes on MNF and bought down to 3 and did not need to.  SD on a short week may be the play but hate these big number plays except in college where Oregon, Hawaii, Boise St., etc. have ruled.  Watch WS in their bowl!!!!
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    i had those same chargers -13 at home against raiders and lost.  took philly -3 versus Dallas and bought the .5 point, thank God!!    Thankfully had G-Men over hapless Yikes on MNF and bought down to 3 and did not need to.  SD on a short week may be the play but hate these big number plays except in college where Oregon, Hawaii, Boise St., etc. have ruled.  Watch WS in their bowl!!!!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2010 - 3:49 PM ET #20

    ok i know i look at things diffent, but i have made some pertey good money this sesson. look san fran has won 5 of thier last 8 games. alex smith knows he is playing for is job, dixin is running like he is wanting a sarting job, and the 49ers still have a chance of makeing the playoffs, and thats something to play for. this one is going to be closer then you think.      chargers-26 49ers-24;;;; feed the dog;;;;
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    ok i know i look at things diffent, but i have made some pertey good money this sesson. look san fran has won 5 of thier last 8 games. alex smith knows he is playing for is job, dixin is running like he is wanting a sarting job, and the 49ers still have a chance of makeing the playoffs, and thats something to play for. this one is going to be closer then you think.      chargers-26 49ers-24;;;; feed the dog;;;;
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2010 - 4:03 PM ET #21

    This is actually an easy game to call.

    Every game that SD has won this year, they have covered ATS.

    Every game the SD has lost this year, they have also lost ATS.

    So, you just have to ask yourself, do you really think that the Alex Smith lead 9'ers can beat SD?

    BTW - 9er's will be missing two starting LB's

    Super Chargers win and cover easy...

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    This is actually an easy game to call.

    Every game that SD has won this year, they have covered ATS.

    Every game the SD has lost this year, they have also lost ATS.

    So, you just have to ask yourself, do you really think that the Alex Smith lead 9'ers can beat SD?

    BTW - 9er's will be missing two starting LB's

    Super Chargers win and cover easy...

    Pro

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2010 - 4:34 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by RUDEDOG747:

    ok i know i look at things diffent, but i have made some pertey good money this sesson. look san fran has won 5 of thier last 8 games. alex smith knows he is playing for is job, dixin is running like he is wanting a sarting job, and the 49ers still have a chance of makeing the playoffs, and thats something to play for. this one is going to be closer then you think.      chargers-26 49ers-24;;;; feed the dog;;;;

     

    O.K. - just because you have "dog" in your name, and you like saying "feed the dog" doesn't mean you always have to pick the underdog - C'mon man - hey, I like pizza and beer - but I don't want it for every single meal.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by RUDEDOG747:

    ok i know i look at things diffent, but i have made some pertey good money this sesson. look san fran has won 5 of thier last 8 games. alex smith knows he is playing for is job, dixin is running like he is wanting a sarting job, and the 49ers still have a chance of makeing the playoffs, and thats something to play for. this one is going to be closer then you think.      chargers-26 49ers-24;;;; feed the dog;;;;

     

    O.K. - just because you have "dog" in your name, and you like saying "feed the dog" doesn't mean you always have to pick the underdog - C'mon man - hey, I like pizza and beer - but I don't want it for every single meal.....

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2010 - 4:50 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddyhpd:

    I feel that the 49ers are coming around but Alex Smith has yet to show he can be consistent. I don't feel the 49ers are built to go score for score but more of a ground and pound grind up the clock to keep the games within reach... They did however light up the scoreboard this past weekend but I cannot see them doing the same against the Chargers.

    The Chargers normally do well around this time and I feel they will come out firing early...

    Leaning on the Chargers in the first half.

     

    be careful with the first half bet.... SF has a Kick Returner threat and you know him well.... Ted Ginn Jr..... I would take a look at the tendencies of SD with regards to the coin toss.... if they take the ball first then the first half looks good.... if they defer which defensive teams do, then I would be careful with that bet.

    SD special teams is atroucious.... Ted Ginn can run back the opening kickoff and then you have 7 points + the first half line...

    I like SD for the game....

    I'm laying the 9.5 points with confidence....

    SF is outmatch and on a short week Alex Smith is going to have extra home-work with this pass-rush....

    Chargers all day

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddyhpd:

    I feel that the 49ers are coming around but Alex Smith has yet to show he can be consistent. I don't feel the 49ers are built to go score for score but more of a ground and pound grind up the clock to keep the games within reach... They did however light up the scoreboard this past weekend but I cannot see them doing the same against the Chargers.

    The Chargers normally do well around this time and I feel they will come out firing early...

    Leaning on the Chargers in the first half.

     

    be careful with the first half bet.... SF has a Kick Returner threat and you know him well.... Ted Ginn Jr..... I would take a look at the tendencies of SD with regards to the coin toss.... if they take the ball first then the first half looks good.... if they defer which defensive teams do, then I would be careful with that bet.

    SD special teams is atroucious.... Ted Ginn can run back the opening kickoff and then you have 7 points + the first half line...

    I like SD for the game....

    I'm laying the 9.5 points with confidence....

    SF is outmatch and on a short week Alex Smith is going to have extra home-work with this pass-rush....

    Chargers all day

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2010 - 4:54 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by 808pickyboy:

    Grass Field and Out Door Stadium. Under looks very good knowing that 49rs might not be able to score a TD against this #1 ranked defense. Short week, lots of traveling, and a QB that is still not settled. No frank Gore and playing a Defense ranked #1 against the pass. 8 -10 points will not be enough. Do not fall for the points cause they might not even score a TD.

    SD Chargers - 17 to 3      @ the half
                             
    SD Chargers - 33 to 6       FINAL

    I 100% agree.... I really don't think this will be a game at all.... should be over by the end of the 3rd quarter

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    Quote Originally Posted by 808pickyboy:

    Grass Field and Out Door Stadium. Under looks very good knowing that 49rs might not be able to score a TD against this #1 ranked defense. Short week, lots of traveling, and a QB that is still not settled. No frank Gore and playing a Defense ranked #1 against the pass. 8 -10 points will not be enough. Do not fall for the points cause they might not even score a TD.

    SD Chargers - 17 to 3      @ the half
                             
    SD Chargers - 33 to 6       FINAL

    I 100% agree.... I really don't think this will be a game at all.... should be over by the end of the 3rd quarter

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2010 - 5:05 PM ET #25

    SD- the pts

    This is the time of year that SD normally decides they want to make a run for the playoffs.

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    SD- the pts

    This is the time of year that SD normally decides they want to make a run for the playoffs.

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