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    San Francisco at Arizona (11/10/2008)

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    Fpronk
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2008 - 2:34 PM ET #101

    I looked at this game, analyzed past games, and looked a few trends. AZ is averaging 34 points a game at home while only allowing approximately 17. On the other hand, San Fran is allowing 30 points a game on the road with there only road win coming against a Seattle team that has won two games…one of them on the road @ San Fran and the other against a crappy Rams team that just got buried yesterday. San Fran’s two win are against Seattle and the winless Detroit Lions. After this being said I don’t believe SAN FRAN can come close to covering this game. AZ will put up points tonight and cover this game. My only concern with this game is the OVER. IMO AZ will no less 31 points tonight so that leaves SAN FRAN to make up the additional 17 points need to cover. San Fran is currently averaging 22 points on the road (skewed slightly because of the 33 the put up on Seattle) and were able to toss up 17 on the Giants and 17 against the Saints. I look for a high scoring Monday Night game. Final Play : AZ -9.5 and OVER 47.

     

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    Cardinals - 38

    49ers  - 20

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    I looked at this game, analyzed past games, and looked a few trends. AZ is averaging 34 points a game at home while only allowing approximately 17. On the other hand, San Fran is allowing 30 points a game on the road with there only road win coming against a Seattle team that has won two games…one of them on the road @ San Fran and the other against a crappy Rams team that just got buried yesterday. San Fran’s two win are against Seattle and the winless Detroit Lions. After this being said I don’t believe SAN FRAN can come close to covering this game. AZ will put up points tonight and cover this game. My only concern with this game is the OVER. IMO AZ will no less 31 points tonight so that leaves SAN FRAN to make up the additional 17 points need to cover. San Fran is currently averaging 22 points on the road (skewed slightly because of the 33 the put up on Seattle) and were able to toss up 17 on the Giants and 17 against the Saints. I look for a high scoring Monday Night game. Final Play : AZ -9.5 and OVER 47.

     

    :: Bold Prediction ::

     

    Cardinals - 38

    49ers  - 20

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2008 - 2:35 PM ET #102

    O V E R  AL THE  WAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!

     

    ARIZONA  37

    S,F,             20

     

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    O V E R  AL THE  WAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!

     

    ARIZONA  37

    S,F,             20

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2008 - 2:37 PM ET #103

    Quote Originally Posted by Imprezive97:

    This is the perfect time for me to take a day off.  Got my ass handed to me yesterday and so did the books I always fade the public.  Cards always screw me.  49ers are terrible.  I'm laying off this one. 

    Also, don't be surprised if I don't bet NFL until playoffs start.  I work on building up a bank roll all year for one sport and that is college basketball.  I was making incredible progress until I hit a big set back yesterday.  I still have plenty to work with and only lost about 25% of my bank roll yesterday.  Anyways, with the college basketball season ready to start I'm switching gears and will be focusing my efforts there. 


    I too fade the public and got hit hard this weekend both in College and Pro. All games with over 65% went the public way except for Seattle and KC. The books will be looking to get some of their handle back on this MNF. I too will be looking to get some of it back and so I will ride with the books and hope this mediocre Niners team can squeak out a cover.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Imprezive97:

    This is the perfect time for me to take a day off.  Got my ass handed to me yesterday and so did the books I always fade the public.  Cards always screw me.  49ers are terrible.  I'm laying off this one. 

    Also, don't be surprised if I don't bet NFL until playoffs start.  I work on building up a bank roll all year for one sport and that is college basketball.  I was making incredible progress until I hit a big set back yesterday.  I still have plenty to work with and only lost about 25% of my bank roll yesterday.  Anyways, with the college basketball season ready to start I'm switching gears and will be focusing my efforts there. 


    I too fade the public and got hit hard this weekend both in College and Pro. All games with over 65% went the public way except for Seattle and KC. The books will be looking to get some of their handle back on this MNF. I too will be looking to get some of it back and so I will ride with the books and hope this mediocre Niners team can squeak out a cover.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2008 - 2:39 PM ET #104

    cards-9.5 overs look solid 47.5
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    cards-9.5 overs look solid 47.5
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2008 - 2:45 PM ET #105

    The 49ers have struggled all season but at least they are entertaining again thanks to interim head coach Mike Singletary. He has made it clear to his team that things must change. One of his first changes was to bench tight end Vernon Davis and he will make another change this week starting Shaun Hill at quarterback.
     
    THATZ JUST GOOONA B EVEN WORSE
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    The 49ers have struggled all season but at least they are entertaining again thanks to interim head coach Mike Singletary. He has made it clear to his team that things must change. One of his first changes was to bench tight end Vernon Davis and he will make another change this week starting Shaun Hill at quarterback.
     
    THATZ JUST GOOONA B EVEN WORSE
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2008 - 2:46 PM ET #106

    I'm on Arizona medium play -9.5 spread. Nothing to like with this dog.

    I like the idea of SF playing hard on D. So... I'm not going to play a total.

    I cannot find anything to replace the Arizona QB nor more explosive/at home offense.

    I think that SF might actually have a flat night on offense.


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    I'm on Arizona medium play -9.5 spread. Nothing to like with this dog.

    I like the idea of SF playing hard on D. So... I'm not going to play a total.

    I cannot find anything to replace the Arizona QB nor more explosive/at home offense.

    I think that SF might actually have a flat night on offense.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2008 - 2:47 PM ET #107

    AZ -6.5/Over 23.5 for 1st half. Nothin more need to be said.
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    AZ -6.5/Over 23.5 for 1st half. Nothin more need to be said.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2008 - 2:48 PM ET #108

    i really like the quarterback for arizona ...the dude is hot and he will pass for at least 4 touchdowns..thats not counting the 3 rushing touchdowns...lets add that up..7 times 7 =49ers get smoked ...lol..laying 100 arizona -10 before the line goes up anymore...final score 49 to 17 ....over is a good bet also...good luck to all of you...
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    i really like the quarterback for arizona ...the dude is hot and he will pass for at least 4 touchdowns..thats not counting the 3 rushing touchdowns...lets add that up..7 times 7 =49ers get smoked ...lol..laying 100 arizona -10 before the line goes up anymore...final score 49 to 17 ....over is a good bet also...good luck to all of you...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2008 - 3:04 PM ET #109

    Quote Originally Posted by Fpronk:

    I looked at this game, analyzed past games, and looked a few trends. AZ is averaging 34 points a game at home while only allowing approximately 17. On the other hand, San Fran is allowing 30 points a game on the road with there only road win coming against a Seattle team that has won two games…one of them on the road @ San Fran and the other against a crappy Rams team that just got buried yesterday. San Fran’s two win are against Seattle and the winless Detroit Lions. After this being said I don’t believe SAN FRAN can come close to covering this game. AZ will put up points tonight and cover this game. My only concern with this game is the OVER. IMO AZ will no less 31 points tonight so that leaves SAN FRAN to make up the additional 17 points need to cover. San Fran is currently averaging 22 points on the road (skewed slightly because of the 33 the put up on Seattle) and were able to toss up 17 on the Giants and 17 against the Saints. I look for a high scoring Monday Night game. Final Play : AZ -9.5 and OVER 47.

     

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    Cardinals - 38

    49ers  - 20

     With you Fpronk as trends are next to worthless in  handicapping this type of game.Zona's stock is clearly on the rise while Frisco is clearly on the downside and here's a Big 10-4 on that 38-20  
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fpronk:

    I looked at this game, analyzed past games, and looked a few trends. AZ is averaging 34 points a game at home while only allowing approximately 17. On the other hand, San Fran is allowing 30 points a game on the road with there only road win coming against a Seattle team that has won two games…one of them on the road @ San Fran and the other against a crappy Rams team that just got buried yesterday. San Fran’s two win are against Seattle and the winless Detroit Lions. After this being said I don’t believe SAN FRAN can come close to covering this game. AZ will put up points tonight and cover this game. My only concern with this game is the OVER. IMO AZ will no less 31 points tonight so that leaves SAN FRAN to make up the additional 17 points need to cover. San Fran is currently averaging 22 points on the road (skewed slightly because of the 33 the put up on Seattle) and were able to toss up 17 on the Giants and 17 against the Saints. I look for a high scoring Monday Night game. Final Play : AZ -9.5 and OVER 47.

     

    :: Bold Prediction ::

     

    Cardinals - 38

    49ers  - 20

     With you Fpronk as trends are next to worthless in  handicapping this type of game.Zona's stock is clearly on the rise while Frisco is clearly on the downside and here's a Big 10-4 on that 38-20  
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2008 - 3:07 PM ET #110

    SF have not cover the spread in their last 5 games while the Cards have cover their last 4 games. I am taking Zona -9.5 (Big Bet) for tonight.. Go Cards !!!!!!
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    SF have not cover the spread in their last 5 games while the Cards have cover their last 4 games. I am taking Zona -9.5 (Big Bet) for tonight.. Go Cards !!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2008 - 3:11 PM ET #111

    Tonight my friends you will see the mad scientist Martz destroy the monster he once created in St Louis. Yo uheard it here , Fpronk I like your score prediction 38-20, its just the 9er's that are going to be 38 and AZ scoring the 20. Zona covered last 4 they dont cover tonight
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    Tonight my friends you will see the mad scientist Martz destroy the monster he once created in St Louis. Yo uheard it here , Fpronk I like your score prediction 38-20, its just the 9er's that are going to be 38 and AZ scoring the 20. Zona covered last 4 they dont cover tonight
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2008 - 3:23 PM ET #112

    San Fran comes into AZ and scores 38?? Good Luck Bro! You're probably banking on a game like the Browns/Giants game where the Browns were +9 and smokes NYG on MNF. The difference there is that the Browns were the home team.. after reading my post I would like hear how you think San Fran scores 38 on AZ in AZ. I'll be waiting for your logical response. I hope its logical....
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    San Fran comes into AZ and scores 38?? Good Luck Bro! You're probably banking on a game like the Browns/Giants game where the Browns were +9 and smokes NYG on MNF. The difference there is that the Browns were the home team.. after reading my post I would like hear how you think San Fran scores 38 on AZ in AZ. I'll be waiting for your logical response. I hope its logical....
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2008 - 3:26 PM ET #113

    under 46 1/2. 
     
    Cards: 35
    49rs: 10
     
    GL2A
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    under 46 1/2. 
     
    Cards: 35
    49rs: 10
     
    GL2A
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2008 - 3:29 PM ET #114

    made a ton of cash following the money vs.line movement this week and dont see a reason that TREND shouldnt stay that way tonight. with half the season gone we can tell the bad from the good from the very bad. tonite is the very good vs. the very bad. so with that we have arizona 1st half and over and arizona over for the game as well.if that work i will hammer the 2nd half.
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    made a ton of cash following the money vs.line movement this week and dont see a reason that TREND shouldnt stay that way tonight. with half the season gone we can tell the bad from the good from the very bad. tonite is the very good vs. the very bad. so with that we have arizona 1st half and over and arizona over for the game as well.if that work i will hammer the 2nd half.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2008 - 3:36 PM ET #115

    Money Line Parlay Bet

    Description Risk Win FP
    Nov 10 08:35 PM EST  -  Football NFL - 234 Arizona Cardinals -450 for Game  
    Nov 10 07:35 PM EST  -  Basketball NBA - 706 Boston Celtics -420 for Game  
    Nov 10 09:05 PM EST  -  Basketball NBA - 710 Phoenix Suns -850 for Game  
    Nov 10 04:00 PM EST  -  Basketball NCAA - 712 Houston -350 for Game  
    4 Team Parlay 300.00 352.34  
    Risk Win
    300.00 USD

    352.34 USD

     
    Here's my play. Cross sport monely line parlay. Looks like a safe wager eh? Houston col bb tip off in 30 mins for my 1st leg...  who's with me? ka-ching  
     
     
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    Money Line Parlay Bet

    Description Risk Win FP
    Nov 10 08:35 PM EST  -  Football NFL - 234 Arizona Cardinals -450 for Game  
    Nov 10 07:35 PM EST  -  Basketball NBA - 706 Boston Celtics -420 for Game  
    Nov 10 09:05 PM EST  -  Basketball NBA - 710 Phoenix Suns -850 for Game  
    Nov 10 04:00 PM EST  -  Basketball NCAA - 712 Houston -350 for Game  
    4 Team Parlay 300.00 352.34  
    Risk Win
    300.00 USD

    352.34 USD

     
    Here's my play. Cross sport monely line parlay. Looks like a safe wager eh? Houston col bb tip off in 30 mins for my 1st leg...  who's with me? ka-ching  
     
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2008 - 3:41 PM ET #116

    Quote Originally Posted by sgrogan6:

    how about NY Giants +13
    NY Giants over 33
    Arizona +0.5
     
    those selections for a teaser bet
    why not?
    BOL everybody!

    I placed same bet looking good so far.  I think Airzona can cover .5 NP. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgrogan6:

    how about NY Giants +13
    NY Giants over 33
    Arizona +0.5
     
    those selections for a teaser bet
    why not?
    BOL everybody!

    I placed same bet looking good so far.  I think Airzona can cover .5 NP. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2008 - 3:41 PM ET #117

    First post for me!!!
     
    For those of you that can bet it...Arizona over 29 seems like a good play.  SF has given up at least 29 points in the last 5 games.  AZ has scores at least 29 points in 4 of the last 5 games.
     
    We shall see...
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    First post for me!!!
     
    For those of you that can bet it...Arizona over 29 seems like a good play.  SF has given up at least 29 points in the last 5 games.  AZ has scores at least 29 points in 4 of the last 5 games.
     
    We shall see...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2008 - 3:43 PM ET #118

    To be Honest.... 9.5 sounds just too easy.....
     
    this line could easily have been 2 tds.... why is it not? because its a division game?
     
    I am on Arizona.... but doesn't it scare anybody that all the public money is on The Cardinals?
     
     
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    To be Honest.... 9.5 sounds just too easy.....
     
    this line could easily have been 2 tds.... why is it not? because its a division game?
     
    I am on Arizona.... but doesn't it scare anybody that all the public money is on The Cardinals?
     
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2008 - 3:50 PM ET #119

    You can't treat men like boys and expect them to respect and want to play for you. He has been trying to be a head coach for years and is going to blow it in less then a quarter of a season. His players will prove that I think. Alot of points at 9.5 but a few big covers this weekend makes me think ARZ is the play.
    GLTA
    By the way keep it on the game- shit thread had to scroll through 75% of bickering BS. If you want to fight go to a bar and pick one. At least you'll get rid of  that rage or get the shit beat out of you. Either way I don't have to deal with your stupid posts.
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    You can't treat men like boys and expect them to respect and want to play for you. He has been trying to be a head coach for years and is going to blow it in less then a quarter of a season. His players will prove that I think. Alot of points at 9.5 but a few big covers this weekend makes me think ARZ is the play.
    GLTA
    By the way keep it on the game- shit thread had to scroll through 75% of bickering BS. If you want to fight go to a bar and pick one. At least you'll get rid of  that rage or get the shit beat out of you. Either way I don't have to deal with your stupid posts.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2008 - 3:51 PM ET #120

    to be safe you could tease the cards and the over. Get the cards at 2.5 and the over at 40.5. 7 point teaser to pay just about even money. I'm going to do this as a small safety bet in case ARZ doesn't cover the full line and over. Or you could tease ARZ and the under. The over under is the only thing that scares me. How many points is San Fran going to score? They're arguably the worst offense with a new quarterback. Yikes that's scary.
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    to be safe you could tease the cards and the over. Get the cards at 2.5 and the over at 40.5. 7 point teaser to pay just about even money. I'm going to do this as a small safety bet in case ARZ doesn't cover the full line and over. Or you could tease ARZ and the under. The over under is the only thing that scares me. How many points is San Fran going to score? They're arguably the worst offense with a new quarterback. Yikes that's scary.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2008 - 3:53 PM ET #121

    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    To be Honest.... 9.5 sounds just too easy.....
     
    this line could easily have been 2 tds.... why is it not? because its a division game?
     
    I am on Arizona.... but doesn't it scare anybody that all the public money is on The Cardinals?
     
    It might scare you if its two teams like last night the Giants and the Eagles and if all the money was on say the Giants and the spread is only 2.5 to 3.0 but these i think are two teams headed in different directions.  I'm on Zona -9.5 but it is the N.F.L. anything can happen.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    To be Honest.... 9.5 sounds just too easy.....
     
    this line could easily have been 2 tds.... why is it not? because its a division game?
     
    I am on Arizona.... but doesn't it scare anybody that all the public money is on The Cardinals?
     
    It might scare you if its two teams like last night the Giants and the Eagles and if all the money was on say the Giants and the spread is only 2.5 to 3.0 but these i think are two teams headed in different directions.  I'm on Zona -9.5 but it is the N.F.L. anything can happen.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2008 - 3:56 PM ET #122

    Copied this from San Fran paper. Thought it might be helpful to the total players.
     
    My play San Fran +10
     

    The objective is to "dominate in the trenches" by stressing the run all the more. That's stat-conscious Frank Gore (629 yards, 4.6 average) you see smiling. Robinson, a quarterback in college and a short-yardage specialist in his first two years with the 49ers, probably will get the bulk of time at fullback providing lead blocks as well as representing a change-of-pace as a runner.

    That's fine with offensive coordinator Mike Martz, who built his "Greatest Show on Turf" bunch in St. Louis around the most complete running back in the league of that era in Marshall Faulk.

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    Copied this from San Fran paper. Thought it might be helpful to the total players.
     
    My play San Fran +10
     

    The objective is to "dominate in the trenches" by stressing the run all the more. That's stat-conscious Frank Gore (629 yards, 4.6 average) you see smiling. Robinson, a quarterback in college and a short-yardage specialist in his first two years with the 49ers, probably will get the bulk of time at fullback providing lead blocks as well as representing a change-of-pace as a runner.

    That's fine with offensive coordinator Mike Martz, who built his "Greatest Show on Turf" bunch in St. Louis around the most complete running back in the league of that era in Marshall Faulk.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2008 - 4:04 PM ET #123

    If the line goes to +10.5 ill take SF (12u)
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    If the line goes to +10.5 ill take SF (12u)
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2008 - 4:08 PM ET #124

    If you look at the ATS trends they point to AZ but you can't put a trend on emotion and attitude.  Finally a national monday night game for AZ...they will be fired up to shock the NFL and prove they are for real.  San Fran's only gameplan is to keep it close they will not survive a shootout.
     
    I got AZ -10...look at the jets games yesterday!!!
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    If you look at the ATS trends they point to AZ but you can't put a trend on emotion and attitude.  Finally a national monday night game for AZ...they will be fired up to shock the NFL and prove they are for real.  San Fran's only gameplan is to keep it close they will not survive a shootout.
     
    I got AZ -10...look at the jets games yesterday!!!
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2008 - 4:16 PM ET #125

    If your on San Fran please be reminded that Shaun Hill has not started a regular season NFL road game EVER! This is a MNF game on the road in a stadium that will be hostile and pumped up for national exposure.
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    If your on San Fran please be reminded that Shaun Hill has not started a regular season NFL road game EVER! This is a MNF game on the road in a stadium that will be hostile and pumped up for national exposure.
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