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    San Diego at Denver (01/12/2014)

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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2014 - 8:46 PM ET #1

    Away:  San Diego [10-6-1 ATS]
    Home:  Denver [10-5-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 4:40 PM
    Stadium: Sports Authority Field at Mile High

    Recent Meetings:
    12/12/13 - SD 27 vs. DEN 20
    11/10/13 - DEN 28 vs. SD 20

    Team Leaders:

    San Diego:
    Passing: Philip Rivers (4606)
    Rushing: Ryan Mathews (1307)
    Receiving: Keenan Allen (1067)

    Denver:
    Passing: Peyton Manning (5477)
    Rushing: Knowshon Moreno (1038)
    Receiving: Demaryius Thomas (1430)

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    Away:  San Diego [10-6-1 ATS]
    Home:  Denver [10-5-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 4:40 PM
    Stadium: Sports Authority Field at Mile High

    Recent Meetings:
    12/12/13 - SD 27 vs. DEN 20
    11/10/13 - DEN 28 vs. SD 20

    Team Leaders:

    San Diego:
    Passing: Philip Rivers (4606)
    Rushing: Ryan Mathews (1307)
    Receiving: Keenan Allen (1067)

    Denver:
    Passing: Peyton Manning (5477)
    Rushing: Knowshon Moreno (1038)
    Receiving: Demaryius Thomas (1430)

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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2014 - 9:34 PM ET #2

    take the chargers if you like money
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    take the chargers if you like money
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2014 - 12:05 AM ET #3

    lost by 10 or more once all year........(OAK)
    SD and under
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    lost by 10 or more once all year........(OAK)
    SD and under
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2014 - 12:06 AM ET #4

    [Quote: Originally Posted by jarydant] lost by 10 or more once all year........(OAK)
    SD and under
    plus they own manning...going back to indy days
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by jarydant] lost by 10 or more once all year........(OAK)
    SD and under
    plus they own manning...going back to indy days
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2014 - 12:33 AM ET #5

    I think the Broncos have a score to settle with Mr. Rivers. We shall see. I hope this line comes in from Den -10 to -7 That would be kool! All San Diego backers get onboard.......bet the LARGE on San Diego +10.........please..........please bet against Payton Manning.....Please!
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    I think the Broncos have a score to settle with Mr. Rivers. We shall see. I hope this line comes in from Den -10 to -7 That would be kool! All San Diego backers get onboard.......bet the LARGE on San Diego +10.........please..........please bet against Payton Manning.....Please!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2014 - 12:39 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by jeter123:

    take the chargers if you like money
    Bet against Peyton Manning if you don't !
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeter123:

    take the chargers if you like money
    Bet against Peyton Manning if you don't !
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2014 - 2:53 PM ET #7

    As much as I don't like Rivers, he's been making me money ever since the victory @ Denver in reg season game.  At this point, I wouldn't be surprise to see Chargers vs 9ers on the Superbowl.  Remember..Wild Card won a lot of Superbowl and the hottest team near the end of regular season usually gets the ring.  The only thing I don't like for Chargers in this game is revenge factor and their win vs Bengals are not that convincing.  Dalton basically handed the W over to them in silver platter.  It's hard to see any team to beat Broncos and Manning in Denver twice.  Broncos win but not cover. 

    Medium bet
    Chargers+10

    Best bet.. 10 point Tease, 
    Chargers +20, and Colts+17.5, Saints +18
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    As much as I don't like Rivers, he's been making me money ever since the victory @ Denver in reg season game.  At this point, I wouldn't be surprise to see Chargers vs 9ers on the Superbowl.  Remember..Wild Card won a lot of Superbowl and the hottest team near the end of regular season usually gets the ring.  The only thing I don't like for Chargers in this game is revenge factor and their win vs Bengals are not that convincing.  Dalton basically handed the W over to them in silver platter.  It's hard to see any team to beat Broncos and Manning in Denver twice.  Broncos win but not cover. 

    Medium bet
    Chargers+10

    Best bet.. 10 point Tease, 
    Chargers +20, and Colts+17.5, Saints +18
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2014 - 4:12 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by best_bets:

    I think the Broncos have a score to settle with Mr. Rivers. We shall see. I hope this line comes in from Den -10 to -7 That would be kool! All San Diego backers get onboard.......bet the LARGE on San Diego +10.........please..........please bet against Payton Manning.....Please!

    OK I will, thanks.

    The Pope of Denver - humble John Elway and the sober executives of the Broncos will spearhead and inspire with their leadership ability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by best_bets:

    I think the Broncos have a score to settle with Mr. Rivers. We shall see. I hope this line comes in from Den -10 to -7 That would be kool! All San Diego backers get onboard.......bet the LARGE on San Diego +10.........please..........please bet against Payton Manning.....Please!

    OK I will, thanks.

    The Pope of Denver - humble John Elway and the sober executives of the Broncos will spearhead and inspire with their leadership ability.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2014 - 5:01 PM ET #9

    This is the rematch I'm sure Peyton is not looking forward to. Rivers seems like the one pesky little guy who always comes back to haunt Peyton and here fate brings them together again. Revenge? I'm not sure it's the same in this case because Rivers to Peyton is like the itch that can't be scratched or the bug that can't be killed. Peyton, Rivers, and everybody knows Peyton is by far the better QB but there seems to be some cosmic force that  brings these 2 together and then swaps their powers.  
     Is Denver the most intimidating team in the playoffs? Probably, but Rivers and the Bolts will show no fear. If either side feels the pressure its Denver and Peyton (not that they ain't built for it). 
    The thing that really concerns me in this match up is taking a quick look at the Broncos losses (Ind, NE, SD) and all the teams have one thing in common. They all have QB's that can keep pace with Peyton when it comes to putting pts on the board. I know Denver's big strength is their offence but in their losses they got out gunned  and couldn't catch up again. 
    On the other side when the Broncos come out strong and don't let off the gas then no team can out gun them.
    That loss to SD was right before Denver had their rest and Peytons ankles were pretty rough if I remember right. Wasn't he limping off the field at the end of the game? 
    Anyways I'm still not sure but an early lean toward SD to cover Denver ML, and Over 54.5. Probable shoot out style game???
    I really haven't liked Denver's D a whole lot this season and it has me a little worried can anyone give me a reason to trust them?
     
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    This is the rematch I'm sure Peyton is not looking forward to. Rivers seems like the one pesky little guy who always comes back to haunt Peyton and here fate brings them together again. Revenge? I'm not sure it's the same in this case because Rivers to Peyton is like the itch that can't be scratched or the bug that can't be killed. Peyton, Rivers, and everybody knows Peyton is by far the better QB but there seems to be some cosmic force that  brings these 2 together and then swaps their powers.  
     Is Denver the most intimidating team in the playoffs? Probably, but Rivers and the Bolts will show no fear. If either side feels the pressure its Denver and Peyton (not that they ain't built for it). 
    The thing that really concerns me in this match up is taking a quick look at the Broncos losses (Ind, NE, SD) and all the teams have one thing in common. They all have QB's that can keep pace with Peyton when it comes to putting pts on the board. I know Denver's big strength is their offence but in their losses they got out gunned  and couldn't catch up again. 
    On the other side when the Broncos come out strong and don't let off the gas then no team can out gun them.
    That loss to SD was right before Denver had their rest and Peytons ankles were pretty rough if I remember right. Wasn't he limping off the field at the end of the game? 
    Anyways I'm still not sure but an early lean toward SD to cover Denver ML, and Over 54.5. Probable shoot out style game???
    I really haven't liked Denver's D a whole lot this season and it has me a little worried can anyone give me a reason to trust them?
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2014 - 5:11 PM ET #10

    7pt teaser...Saints +15 and the under 54 1/2.......Panthers +9 .....Broncos -3 and the over 44 1/2.....Colts +14 1/2 and the over 46......7 teamer!
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    7pt teaser...Saints +15 and the under 54 1/2.......Panthers +9 .....Broncos -3 and the over 44 1/2.....Colts +14 1/2 and the over 46......7 teamer!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2014 - 8:48 PM ET #11

    Every year there's always one - that "scrappy" team that comes alive at just the right time, and somehow on the last game of the season, someway manages to back into the playoffs - and they're now the team nobody wants to face......

    2 years ago it was the Giants, last year it was the Ravens, now it seems the Chargers are that team..... But, if I'm going with my media frenzy moneymaking machine theory that would be Brady v. Manning, then the Bolts have to lose...... What to do, what to do.....

    I think 10 points is too much, Broncos M/L would be a safer wager, but wouldn't pay anything. I gotta go with my gut - Broncos win, but in a close "heartbreaker" for San Diego. Yeah, Peyton is playoff Kryptonite - but that loss might come next week against Tommy Terrific.

    Broncos win/Chargers cover the 10

    Good Luck All!!!!!

     

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    Every year there's always one - that "scrappy" team that comes alive at just the right time, and somehow on the last game of the season, someway manages to back into the playoffs - and they're now the team nobody wants to face......

    2 years ago it was the Giants, last year it was the Ravens, now it seems the Chargers are that team..... But, if I'm going with my media frenzy moneymaking machine theory that would be Brady v. Manning, then the Bolts have to lose...... What to do, what to do.....

    I think 10 points is too much, Broncos M/L would be a safer wager, but wouldn't pay anything. I gotta go with my gut - Broncos win, but in a close "heartbreaker" for San Diego. Yeah, Peyton is playoff Kryptonite - but that loss might come next week against Tommy Terrific.

    Broncos win/Chargers cover the 10

    Good Luck All!!!!!

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2014 - 10:44 PM ET #12

    Tough to pass up double digits with SD here. Temps look to be in mid 40s, which is good for Manning who looked like he couldn't throw more than 10 yds downfield vs Ravens in playoffs last year.
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    Tough to pass up double digits with SD here. Temps look to be in mid 40s, which is good for Manning who looked like he couldn't throw more than 10 yds downfield vs Ravens in playoffs last year.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2014 - 11:25 PM ET #13

    Yeah, this year that scrappy team is the Colts! But their Luck will run out vs. the 9ers in NYC - I just hope I'm wrong, coz I hate the 9ers!

    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

    Every year there's always one - that "scrappy" team that comes alive at just the right time, and somehow on the last game of the season, someway manages to back into the playoffs - and they're now the team nobody wants to face......

    2 years ago it was the Giants, last year it was the Ravens, now it seems the Chargers are that team..... But, if I'm going with my media frenzy moneymaking machine theory that would be Brady v. Manning, then the Bolts have to lose...... What to do, what to do.....

    I think 10 points is too much, Broncos M/L would be a safer wager, but wouldn't pay anything. I gotta go with my gut - Broncos win, but in a close "heartbreaker" for San Diego. Yeah, Peyton is playoff Kryptonite - but that loss might come next week against Tommy Terrific.

    Broncos win/Chargers cover the 10

    Good Luck All!!!!!

     

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    Yeah, this year that scrappy team is the Colts! But their Luck will run out vs. the 9ers in NYC - I just hope I'm wrong, coz I hate the 9ers!

    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

    Every year there's always one - that "scrappy" team that comes alive at just the right time, and somehow on the last game of the season, someway manages to back into the playoffs - and they're now the team nobody wants to face......

    2 years ago it was the Giants, last year it was the Ravens, now it seems the Chargers are that team..... But, if I'm going with my media frenzy moneymaking machine theory that would be Brady v. Manning, then the Bolts have to lose...... What to do, what to do.....

    I think 10 points is too much, Broncos M/L would be a safer wager, but wouldn't pay anything. I gotta go with my gut - Broncos win, but in a close "heartbreaker" for San Diego. Yeah, Peyton is playoff Kryptonite - but that loss might come next week against Tommy Terrific.

    Broncos win/Chargers cover the 10

    Good Luck All!!!!!

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2014 - 12:38 AM ET #14

    Chargersss all day every day... They will hang tough every time ... +10 +20
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    Chargersss all day every day... They will hang tough every time ... +10 +20
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2014 - 1:42 AM ET #15

    Broncos in a blow out. Ryan Matthews is gimpy with an ankle sprain that's why he didn't come in at the 2nd half against the Bengal. The Broncos defense will be a lot more quicker this time around with a full two weeks of rest verses the 3 days they had on Thursday night. The Broncos D should be able take away Keenan Allen, now that Champ Bailey is the 3rd Corner back in the Nickel package instead of rookie Kayvon Webster. 

    I expect the Broncos to score every single with Wes Welker back which was missing in game two.  If they Chargers does not score on every single possession this game will be over by the 3rd quarter with the Broncos up +17.  Don't see the Chargers D keeping up against a fully Broncos offense. And don't compare this offense to last years team against the Ravens.  Knowshon Monreno is a much more improve screen running back, and Julius Thomas and Welker will be just one weapon too many for San Diego to deal with.

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    Broncos in a blow out. Ryan Matthews is gimpy with an ankle sprain that's why he didn't come in at the 2nd half against the Bengal. The Broncos defense will be a lot more quicker this time around with a full two weeks of rest verses the 3 days they had on Thursday night. The Broncos D should be able take away Keenan Allen, now that Champ Bailey is the 3rd Corner back in the Nickel package instead of rookie Kayvon Webster. 

    I expect the Broncos to score every single with Wes Welker back which was missing in game two.  If they Chargers does not score on every single possession this game will be over by the 3rd quarter with the Broncos up +17.  Don't see the Chargers D keeping up against a fully Broncos offense. And don't compare this offense to last years team against the Ravens.  Knowshon Monreno is a much more improve screen running back, and Julius Thomas and Welker will be just one weapon too many for San Diego to deal with.

     
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah]

    I think 10 points is too much, Broncos M/L would be a safer wager, but wouldn't pay anything. I gotta go with my gut - Broncos win, but in a close "heartbreaker" for San Diego. Yeah, Peyton is playoff Kryptonite - but that loss might come next week against Tommy Terrific.

    Broncos win/Chargers cover the 10

    Good Luck All!!!!!

    I feelings exactly ! But one factor that plays a big part is the Broncos two week preparation. I think the Broncos come out fast and score two quick TD's. San Diego can score no doubt. Weather won't be a factor since it will be in the low 40's as in the Cincy game. Denver had no running game last time against San Diego. So Manning will pass a lot of times. A perfect over game to bet. Got to take the points with SD.

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah]

    I think 10 points is too much, Broncos M/L would be a safer wager, but wouldn't pay anything. I gotta go with my gut - Broncos win, but in a close "heartbreaker" for San Diego. Yeah, Peyton is playoff Kryptonite - but that loss might come next week against Tommy Terrific.

    Broncos win/Chargers cover the 10

    Good Luck All!!!!!

    I feelings exactly ! But one factor that plays a big part is the Broncos two week preparation. I think the Broncos come out fast and score two quick TD's. San Diego can score no doubt. Weather won't be a factor since it will be in the low 40's as in the Cincy game. Denver had no running game last time against San Diego. So Manning will pass a lot of times. A perfect over game to bet. Got to take the points with SD.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by frostno98:

    Broncos in a blow out. Ryan Matthews is gimpy with an ankle sprain that's why he didn't come in at the 2nd half against the Bengal. The Broncos defense will be a lot more quicker this time around with a full two weeks of rest verses the 3 days they had on Thursday night. The Broncos D should be able take away Keenan Allen, now that Champ Bailey is the 3rd Corner back in the Nickel package instead of rookie Kayvon Webster. 

    I expect the Broncos to score every single with Wes Welker back which was missing in game two.  If they Chargers does not score on every single possession this game will be over by the 3rd quarter with the Broncos up +17.  Don't see the Chargers D keeping up against a fully Broncos offense. And don't compare this offense to last years team against the Ravens.  Knowshon Monreno is a much more improve screen running back, and Julius Thomas and Welker will be just one weapon too many for San Diego to deal with.

    well thats your version, my version is chargers are even better now than when they played denver last game. Patton Manning nemesis the chargers.take chargers on the moneyline
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    Quote Originally Posted by frostno98:

    Broncos in a blow out. Ryan Matthews is gimpy with an ankle sprain that's why he didn't come in at the 2nd half against the Bengal. The Broncos defense will be a lot more quicker this time around with a full two weeks of rest verses the 3 days they had on Thursday night. The Broncos D should be able take away Keenan Allen, now that Champ Bailey is the 3rd Corner back in the Nickel package instead of rookie Kayvon Webster. 

    I expect the Broncos to score every single with Wes Welker back which was missing in game two.  If they Chargers does not score on every single possession this game will be over by the 3rd quarter with the Broncos up +17.  Don't see the Chargers D keeping up against a fully Broncos offense. And don't compare this offense to last years team against the Ravens.  Knowshon Monreno is a much more improve screen running back, and Julius Thomas and Welker will be just one weapon too many for San Diego to deal with.

    well thats your version, my version is chargers are even better now than when they played denver last game. Patton Manning nemesis the chargers.take chargers on the moneyline
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2014 - 2:25 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by best_bets:

    I think the Broncos have a score to settle with Mr. Rivers. We shall see. I hope this line comes in from Den -10 to -7 That would be kool! All San Diego backers get onboard.......bet the LARGE on San Diego +10.........please..........please bet against Payton Manning.....Please!
    I will and it will be on the moneyline +375
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    Quote Originally Posted by best_bets:

    I think the Broncos have a score to settle with Mr. Rivers. We shall see. I hope this line comes in from Den -10 to -7 That would be kool! All San Diego backers get onboard.......bet the LARGE on San Diego +10.........please..........please bet against Payton Manning.....Please!
    I will and it will be on the moneyline +375
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2014 - 9:07 AM ET #19

    Sd and under another manning playoff blunder
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    Sd and under another manning playoff blunder
     
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    I LOVE the chargers + 10....I HATE the fact that everyone on this jinx site agrees with me...Gl
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    I LOVE the chargers + 10....I HATE the fact that everyone on this jinx site agrees with me...Gl
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDaggz:

    This is the rematch I'm sure Peyton is not looking forward to. Rivers seems like the one pesky little guy who always comes back to haunt Peyton and here fate brings them together again. Revenge? I'm not sure it's the same in this case because Rivers to Peyton is like the itch that can't be scratched or the bug that can't be killed. Peyton, Rivers, and everybody knows Peyton is by far the better QB but there seems to be some cosmic force that  brings these 2 together and then swaps their powers.  
     Is Denver the most intimidating team in the playoffs? Probably, but Rivers and the Bolts will show no fear. If either side feels the pressure its Denver and Peyton (not that they ain't built for it). 
    The thing that really concerns me in this match up is taking a quick look at the Broncos losses (Ind, NE, SD) and all the teams have one thing in common. They all have QB's that can keep pace with Peyton when it comes to putting pts on the board. I know Denver's big strength is their offence but in their losses they got out gunned  and couldn't catch up again. 
    On the other side when the Broncos come out strong and don't let off the gas then no team can out gun them.
    That loss to SD was right before Denver had their rest and Peytons ankles were pretty rough if I remember right. Wasn't he limping off the field at the end of the game? 
    Anyways I'm still not sure but an early lean toward SD to cover Denver ML, and Over 54.5. Probable shoot out style game???
    I really haven't liked Denver's D a whole lot this season and it has me a little worried can anyone give me a reason to trust them?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDaggz:

    This is the rematch I'm sure Peyton is not looking forward to. Rivers seems like the one pesky little guy who always comes back to haunt Peyton and here fate brings them together again. Revenge? I'm not sure it's the same in this case because Rivers to Peyton is like the itch that can't be scratched or the bug that can't be killed. Peyton, Rivers, and everybody knows Peyton is by far the better QB but there seems to be some cosmic force that  brings these 2 together and then swaps their powers.  
     Is Denver the most intimidating team in the playoffs? Probably, but Rivers and the Bolts will show no fear. If either side feels the pressure its Denver and Peyton (not that they ain't built for it). 
    The thing that really concerns me in this match up is taking a quick look at the Broncos losses (Ind, NE, SD) and all the teams have one thing in common. They all have QB's that can keep pace with Peyton when it comes to putting pts on the board. I know Denver's big strength is their offence but in their losses they got out gunned  and couldn't catch up again. 
    On the other side when the Broncos come out strong and don't let off the gas then no team can out gun them.
    That loss to SD was right before Denver had their rest and Peytons ankles were pretty rough if I remember right. Wasn't he limping off the field at the end of the game? 
    Anyways I'm still not sure but an early lean toward SD to cover Denver ML, and Over 54.5. Probable shoot out style game???
    I really haven't liked Denver's D a whole lot this season and it has me a little worried can anyone give me a reason to trust them?
     
    Great insight!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waz44:

    OK I will, thanks.

    The Pope of Denver - humble John Elway and the sober executives of the Broncos will spearhead and inspire with their leadership ability.

    If you have a million or more to wager that would be extra special and  no......thank you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waz44:

    OK I will, thanks.

    The Pope of Denver - humble John Elway and the sober executives of the Broncos will spearhead and inspire with their leadership ability.

    If you have a million or more to wager that would be extra special and  no......thank you!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2014 - 12:47 PM ET #23

    I like how SD is all charged up . Sort of like a college team again. Each win means alot to them. I see the fire in their hearts. Love for them to win the game or keep it a close game. Manning might get an ulcer.
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    I like how SD is all charged up . Sort of like a college team again. Each win means alot to them. I see the fire in their hearts. Love for them to win the game or keep it a close game. Manning might get an ulcer.
     
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    I like SD.  Rivers finally has learned how to win.  You saw him at the press conf.  He said you run the ball throw screen passes and take a shot down the field once or twice and look up to the score board and you won the game.  Rivers finally learned how to play QB.

    SD beat DEN this season.  SD won on the road at CIN.  
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    I like SD.  Rivers finally has learned how to win.  You saw him at the press conf.  He said you run the ball throw screen passes and take a shot down the field once or twice and look up to the score board and you won the game.  Rivers finally learned how to play QB.

    SD beat DEN this season.  SD won on the road at CIN.  
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2014 - 6:01 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by MyTimeToShine:

    I LOVE the chargers + 10....I HATE the fact that everyone on this jinx site agrees with me...Gl

    Welcome To My Nightmare...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyTimeToShine:

    I LOVE the chargers + 10....I HATE the fact that everyone on this jinx site agrees with me...Gl

    Welcome To My Nightmare...........

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