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snowjocky

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Posted: Jan. 5, 2009 - 6:53 PM ET #26

Last 3 games average score

Eagles 24 to 10 Defense not giving up lots of points

G-Men 20 to 22.Defense giving up lots of points

Last meeting Dec.7 in New York Eagles 20 to 14

I have it 27 to 23 Eagles

Eagles and the over

ltbdubz5

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Posted: Jan. 5, 2009 - 8:37 PM ET #27

Locks, do you drive an IROC?

fts1409

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Posted: Jan. 5, 2009 - 10:58 PM ET #28

Spytheweb and mstef8...right on bros. Couldn' agree with u more. Philly gonna cover on the road three intense weeks in a row...not with my money.Gmen to the bank.

et071407

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Posted: Jan. 5, 2009 - 11:21 PM ET #29

Quote Originally Posted by BigOC:

harsh words their locks, but last time i checked the phillies are world series champions and the eagles will beat down ur giants u fuckin piece of trash, and the flyers are better then the rangersu must still be upset about the mets chokin for the 2nd straight year u person

Please, before you mention the Super Bowl Champion New York Giants. Add the title Super Bowl Champion or World Champions, you decide. Either way you slice it the Giants are the best team on the field sunday. Mcnabb will make mistakes and lose this game. Eli will make the throws that have to be made and Jacobs and Ward will run wild at home. Bet the house coughlin will not give up a screen pass over 20 yards. That shit aint gonna work this week. G-MEN!!

nicolasand

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Posted: Jan. 6, 2009 - 12:29 AM ET #30

Philly +4 and under 40.5 !!!

bigrazz

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Posted: Jan. 6, 2009 - 5:55 AM ET #31

maybe a small play on the g-men for shits n giggles. could see a philly upset though.

good luck boys

fts1409

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Posted: Jan. 6, 2009 - 6:58 AM ET #32

82% on PH ML. I'll take unpopular,rested,home fave here thx. PH rushed for a stupendous 67 yds. MN 148.. Jacobs will have good day.
GIA not gonna give 4 TOs here.

SilBacks

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Posted: Jan. 6, 2009 - 11:03 AM ET #33

This is going to be a tight game. Difficult to take the NYG by more than a field goal. They can't stretch the field with anyone other than Domenik Hixon and he himself has difficulty getting off the line of scrimmage. Toomer and Smith and Boss are niche possession receivers. You could very well make the case the Eagles could bring down the 8th man into the box to pressure the Eagles are force throws to win.

The Giants are not the same without Plaxico Burress. Last time these teams met, if you withhold the last TD drive given up in prevent defense, the Eagles held the Giants to only 141 yards the whole game.

And if you look after Plax's injury and beyond the Carolina win (Carolina Defence in bottom half of league statistically) you see that the G Men scored 8 and 14 (7 from their defense) points respectively. Frankly, they are struggling on defense and relying on Jacobs will be difficult when the other team knows you are inept on passing.

The Giants will have to grind this one if they win.

I am taking the Eagles +4 (large), Eagles ML, adding to my position that the Eagles win the NFC +400 because they should handle the Panthers if they get by the Giants.

And for those that say the Eagles didn't look good in Minnesota, I would say that despite some undisciplined play (8 penalties) they did a great job winning in a very hostile environment against a stout defense. The Philly defense played excellent and was able to bottle up AP with the exception of one 40 yard run. McNabb did enough to move the ball and establish field position. He came up with big throws all day long in clutch situations.

Beyond all this, it just feels like fate it is alongside this team just making the playoffs and all.

wayzandmeanz

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Posted: Jan. 6, 2009 - 1:09 PM ET #34

I get to go to Tahoe this weekend for some skiing and gamblin this weekend so I've been interested to see what everyone thinks...

I wish McNabb would call me and tell me what Eagles team will show up. Since I don't have that luxury I will take the over but if I could somehow get the line down at least half a point I'ld take the GMan because of how bad they looked against TJac and co

MDiBBa

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Posted: Jan. 6, 2009 - 1:55 PM ET #35

Teasing

Philly + 11 / over 33

DyHardBillsFan

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Posted: Jan. 6, 2009 - 2:28 PM ET #36

Hey Locks All Day

L0cks_all_d4y PHILLIES SUCK....EAGLES SUCK....SIXERS SUCK....FLYERS SUCK......AND YOUR CREAM CHEASE SUCKS person

LOL

LETS GO METS!!!

L0cks_all_d4y

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Posted: Jan. 6, 2009 - 3:04 PM ET #37

Quote Originally Posted by fatdan215:

locks ur a turd brother dont come on here as an internet tough guy ive been following the eagles all year even when the were in theyre losing mode now that theyre gonna beat ur new york giants next year is even better so dont come on here talking smack on the city cause were better than yous any day of the wk month yr and so on...and dont say stuff bout the cream cheese youll get smacked real quick

Better than us any day? Is that why Philadelphia has been voted the ugliest city in the United States? Shut your mouth you ugly mother fuc*er...finally won a championship that didnt involve Arena Football...

L0cks_all_d4y

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Posted: Jan. 6, 2009 - 3:06 PM ET #38

Quote Originally Posted by DyHardBillsFan:

Hey Locks All Day

L0cks_all_d4y PHILLIES SUCK....EAGLES SUCK....SIXERS SUCK....FLYERS SUCK......AND YOUR CREAM CHEASE SUCKS person

LOL

LETS GO METS!!!

Yeah lets go mets we blew 30 saves last year what do we do? Get the best 8-9 in the game cut 30 into 15 that gives us 104 wins.....Mets are backkkkk

L0cks_all_d4y

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Posted: Jan. 6, 2009 - 3:09 PM ET #39

Quote Originally Posted by BigOC:

harsh words their locks, but last time i checked the phillies are world series champions and the eagles will beat down ur giants u fuckin piece of trash, and the flyers are better then the rangers

u must still be upset about the mets chokin for the 2nd straight year u person

World Series CHampions HAHAHA means nothing when you still are considered the worst franchise in sports...EVER...gotta win a lot more than 1 world series to get over the hump my friend. 2 world series in about 120 years dont cut it in New York but for people in Philadelphia it does.....

BreakaBookie

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Posted: Jan. 6, 2009 - 3:14 PM ET #40

I'm probably going to stay away from this one.... I was leaning Eagles... but they havn't had a red zone touchdown since they played Arizona.....

I was going to take the points, but as Jgenti Said... 4 is a shit line....

I'm going to sit back, relax, stay away, and put my money on Steve Smith and Daylightcomeandmewannagohome.... and Ray Murda mixed with a rookie qb and Mr. Ed Reed.... stayin away from PITT as well even though I think they will take it....

but for your ny weather...

https://www.weather.com/outlook/events/nfl/team-schedule?from=NFL_welcome&team=biai

ncrum

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Posted: Jan. 6, 2009 - 4:02 PM ET #41

[Quote: Originally Posted by dddevin69]

how bout take the over 40.5? I don't see how you can lose taking the over.

also, I think the Giants win straight up

One way you could lose is what happened this year at Philly the game totaled 34 points. That would be a loser. In face, since the year 2000 they have played 20 games and split 10-10. Eleven of those games went under 40.5 and 9 went over.

ncrum

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Posted: Jan. 6, 2009 - 4:08 PM ET #42

More data... Last 4 meetings the gmen are 3-1, winning 16-3, 16-13, 36-31 and lost 14-20. Hmmmm, I see a trend here, under and gmen.

Well history does not always repeat itself, but I like the home field when the point spread is low. My play is on the defending Super Bowl champions laying 4 points. I may by a point as I believe this could be a very close game. Most likely will take the under. Never know about the weather in NY, maybe a Noreastern will move in.

carrigrua

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Posted: Jan. 6, 2009 - 4:26 PM ET #43

This game is Giants all the way.Westbrook has had one huge day,and one crap day so far v Giants,and Spagnuolo will have his measure here.Can't trust Eagles offence ,think of games with Bengals,Ravens & Redskins.

Conversely,in a 6 game mid-season stretch the Giants won in Pittsburgh,Arizona,Philadelphia,Washington and at home to Baltimore & Dallas by an average of nearly 13 pts per game!!!!!Four of those teams went to playoffs,other two just missed out.Thats good form.

Ok they went through the motions at end of regular season,but won the only game they had to against Carolina to secure home field advantage.They will have success running the ball,Eli will through in a few plays downfield,and the Eagles will stuggle to score.

Giants will cover with ease,get on!

Boludojones

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Posted: Jan. 6, 2009 - 4:36 PM ET #44

Is anyone ready for an honest opinion from someone not named "PhilliesFan", or have a location tag of "New York"???????

That being said - these 2 teams almost always play each other hard and usually every game comes down to the wire. But, even with that considered (and the extra time off that the Giants had) the Giants aren't the same Superbowl charging team they were last year, or even the first half of this year. Look at how many key guys are going to be out, or banged up for this game......
I think this game come down to a field goal try - and +4 covers me either way - - Eagles +4 =

ncrum

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Posted: Jan. 6, 2009 - 4:40 PM ET #45

[Quote: Originally Posted by Boludojones] Is anyone ready for an honest opinion from someone not named "PhilliesFan", or have a location tag of "New York"???????

That being said - these 2 teams almost always play each other hard and usually every game comes down to the wire. But, even with that considered (and the extra time off that the Giants had) the Giants aren't the same Superbowl charging team they were last year, or even the first half of this year. Look at how many key guys are going to be out, or banged up for this game......
I think this game come down to a field goal try - and +4 covers me either way - - Eagles +4 =

Agree with a lot of what you say but will you shed some light on the part I highlighted.

Spytheweb

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Posted: Jan. 6, 2009 - 4:48 PM ET #46

I remember last season when the Eagles beat the Lions 56-21, this was a week before they were to play the Giants. The Eagles were red hot and on fire, What happened in the Giant game? McNabb was sacked 12 times and the Eagles only scored a FG (3-16). From 56 points to 3? This past Viking game the Eagles kicked 4 FGs, they have trouble punching it in, one defensive TD and one freak screen pass. 2 weeks ago they couldn't score a TD only a FG against Washington. The Giants run game is going to run over them. Look for 10 minute drives, this will keep our defense fresh. If it's windy it's bad for Philly, i don't see them running wild.

Good teams win games, Great teams cover the spread!

kidmike89

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Posted: Jan. 6, 2009 - 5:25 PM ET #47

Quote Originally Posted by Philly215:

GOT A PROBLEM WIT DAT, FUGG U, DONT WANNA HEAR NO MO NY FANS CRYIN, PHILLIES OWN DA METS

EAGLES OWND DA GIANTS, WON 4 OUTTA LAST 6 MEETINGS,

Love it man! NY choke artists! Happens again this weekend. Philly +4

kidmike89

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Posted: Jan. 6, 2009 - 5:27 PM ET #48

I know that sounds very biased. However, I do believe both defenses show up so under is the best bet. Philly + 4 is a hunch just because they are hot, but NY is a very good football team.

Boludojones

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Posted: Jan. 6, 2009 - 5:30 PM ET #49

Quote Originally Posted by ncrum:

Quote Originally Posted by Boludojones:

Is anyone ready for an honest opinion from someone not named "PhilliesFan", or have a location tag of "New York"???????

That being said - these 2 teams almost always play each other hard and usually every game comes down to the wire. But, even with that considered (and the extra time off that the Giants had) the Giants aren't the same Superbowl charging team they were last year, or even the first half of this year. Look at how many key guys are going to be out, or banged up for this game......
I think this game come down to a field goal try - and +4 covers me either way - - Eagles +4 =

Agree with a lot of what you say but will you shed some light on the part I highlighted.

Brandon Jacobs RB day-to-day - Knee – 01/03/09

Michael Johnson S day-to-day - Thigh – 01/03/09

Kevin Dockery S day-to-day - Back - 01/03/09

Gerris Wilkinson OL day-to-day - Knee - 01/03/09

Aaron Ross CB day-to-day - Head - 01/03/09

Michael Matthews TE day-to-day - Leg - 01/03/09

Barry Cofield NT day-to-day - Knee - 01/03/09

Osi Umenyiora DE I-R - Knee - 08/24/08

Sam Madison CB I-R - Leg - 01/02/09

Jonathan Goff LB I-R - Hamstring - 12/23/08

Reuben Droughns RB I-R - Undisclosed - 12/17/08

Sammy Knight S I-R - Hip - 12/04/08

Plaxico Burress WR Out Indefinitely - Suspension - 12/03/08

David Tyree WR I-R - Hamstring - 11/06/08

Anthony Wright QB I-R - Back - 09/19/08

Guy Whimper T I-R - Foot - 09/19/08

Robert Henderson DE I-R - Ankle – 09/19/08

Kay-Jay Harris RB I-R - Ankle - 09/19/08

O.K. - Anthony Wright is no big loss, but a lot of key players are out / hobbled.......

Also - Ahmad Bradshaw isn't on this list, & he's banged up

ncrum

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Posted: Jan. 6, 2009 - 6:11 PM ET #50

Boludojones. man you are going way back to the start of the year with a lot of these guys. I thought maybe you had some insight to something I hadn't heard yet. Jacobs is the key guy on that list as he is the engine in my mind to their offense. While he is on the injured list I think it is highly unlikely that he won't play. At any rate, thanks for taking the time to reply. All the best to you and I am still going with the gmen, but I must admit it is not my strongest play of the weekend.

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