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    Oakland at San Diego (12/04/2008)

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    Mr_Covers
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2008 - 2:11 AM ET #1

    Away:  Oakland [5-7 ATS]
    Home:  San Diego [4-7-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:15 PM
    Stadium: Qualcomm Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    09/28/08 - SD 28 vs. OAK 18

    Team Leaders:

    Oakland:
    Passing: JaMarcus Russell (1729)
    Rushing: Justin Fargas (631)
    Receiving: Zach Miller (550)

    San Diego:
    Passing: Philip Rivers (2950)
    Rushing: LaDainian Tomlinson (794)
    Receiving: Vincent Jackson (703)

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    Away:  Oakland [5-7 ATS]
    Home:  San Diego [4-7-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:15 PM
    Stadium: Qualcomm Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    09/28/08 - SD 28 vs. OAK 18

    Team Leaders:

    Oakland:
    Passing: JaMarcus Russell (1729)
    Rushing: Justin Fargas (631)
    Receiving: Zach Miller (550)

    San Diego:
    Passing: Philip Rivers (2950)
    Rushing: LaDainian Tomlinson (794)
    Receiving: Vincent Jackson (703)

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    johnnyjammer
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2008 - 2:27 AM ET #2

    All the money is going to the chargers....does oakland have a shot??
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    All the money is going to the chargers....does oakland have a shot??
     
    WonderWeasel
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2008 - 5:57 AM ET #3

    Oakland's Last Four Games on the Road they scored an Average of 8pts, if you think San Diego can score 21 pts they should cover easy!
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    Oakland's Last Four Games on the Road they scored an Average of 8pts, if you think San Diego can score 21 pts they should cover easy!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2008 - 8:15 AM ET #4

    take oakland here
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    take oakland here
     
    Henry-Lilly
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2008 - 9:55 AM ET #5

    Both teams suck.  I don't trust them to score.  I'm thinking the under may be the play here.  Jamarcus Russell was pathetic last week against K.C.  Unfortunately, I watched that entire game and I see that they should run the wildcat on every play because he is a terrible passer.  The Raiders defense is okay and the Chargers offensive line and play calling is shit.  Early lean on the under.
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    Both teams suck.  I don't trust them to score.  I'm thinking the under may be the play here.  Jamarcus Russell was pathetic last week against K.C.  Unfortunately, I watched that entire game and I see that they should run the wildcat on every play because he is a terrible passer.  The Raiders defense is okay and the Chargers offensive line and play calling is shit.  Early lean on the under.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2008 - 2:19 PM ET #6

    I dont know about the under only because if Mcfadden is effective in the run they will score..had only like 25 yards last weekend...so idk......I might just wait till half time and take a shot at what looks decent......I can tell you guys this...I took the over on the second half of last nights toilet bowl game between the texans and jags....everybody thought I was nuts....you have to consider the overall over/under and realize most of the time the oddsmakes are in range of that number and if they are way under than mean at halftime regardless of what is going on in the first half there is still 30 mins to get to that approximation...and of course the game being fixed as the wwe lol gl with your bets!!
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    I dont know about the under only because if Mcfadden is effective in the run they will score..had only like 25 yards last weekend...so idk......I might just wait till half time and take a shot at what looks decent......I can tell you guys this...I took the over on the second half of last nights toilet bowl game between the texans and jags....everybody thought I was nuts....you have to consider the overall over/under and realize most of the time the oddsmakes are in range of that number and if they are way under than mean at halftime regardless of what is going on in the first half there is still 30 mins to get to that approximation...and of course the game being fixed as the wwe lol gl with your bets!!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2008 - 2:25 PM ET #7

    I like this game straight, but am for sure going to tease it as well.  Chicago down to +1 and San Diego +4 sounds alot better.  I am leaning towards the under. If the Tennesee line falls under 13 they could be a good play if you could pass the +10 and +7 lines to get them to +6 or 6.5.
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    I like this game straight, but am for sure going to tease it as well.  Chicago down to +1 and San Diego +4 sounds alot better.  I am leaning towards the under. If the Tennesee line falls under 13 they could be a good play if you could pass the +10 and +7 lines to get them to +6 or 6.5.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2008 - 4:26 PM ET #8

    I usually try and avoid any game involving the Raiders as they are so hard to predict from week to week.  They beat the Broncos in Denver and then lose at home to the 1-10 Chiefs.  It's absolutely disgraceful watching Russell playing qb.  He's cleary the worst in the league and is a joke of a 1st overall selection.  I think Oakland's D is pretty decent at times but their offense is just plain horrible.  San Diego is worst in the league against the pass and as bad as Russell is....he might actually complete a few passes.  As much as I hate betting on the Raiders to cover anything, I just might on Thursday night.  They did play the Chargers pretty tough in the earlier matchup in Oakland this year only to give up 25 points in the 4th quarter.  I just hope Russell completes a few passes anyways.  I think the Oakland D will be able to contain the Chargers to 24 points or less, so if Oakland can put more than 14 then they should cover!
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    I usually try and avoid any game involving the Raiders as they are so hard to predict from week to week.  They beat the Broncos in Denver and then lose at home to the 1-10 Chiefs.  It's absolutely disgraceful watching Russell playing qb.  He's cleary the worst in the league and is a joke of a 1st overall selection.  I think Oakland's D is pretty decent at times but their offense is just plain horrible.  San Diego is worst in the league against the pass and as bad as Russell is....he might actually complete a few passes.  As much as I hate betting on the Raiders to cover anything, I just might on Thursday night.  They did play the Chargers pretty tough in the earlier matchup in Oakland this year only to give up 25 points in the 4th quarter.  I just hope Russell completes a few passes anyways.  I think the Oakland D will be able to contain the Chargers to 24 points or less, so if Oakland can put more than 14 then they should cover!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2008 - 4:30 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by jwarga:

    I like this game straight, but am for sure going to tease it as well.  Chicago down to +1 and San Diego +4 sounds alot better.  I am leaning towards the under. If the Tennesee line falls under 13 they could be a good play if you could pass the +10 and +7 lines to get them to +6 or 6.5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwarga:

    I like this game straight, but am for sure going to tease it as well.  Chicago down to +1 and San Diego +4 sounds alot better.  I am leaning towards the under. If the Tennesee line falls under 13 they could be a good play if you could pass the +10 and +7 lines to get them to +6 or 6.5.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2008 - 8:40 PM ET #10

    I would usually back my chargers as they own the raiders but they're playing terrible right now, they just don't warrant any play.  I think the better bet is the under.  I see this game ending up in the low 30's.  Both SD and OAK have played under in their last 5 games respectively.
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    I would usually back my chargers as they own the raiders but they're playing terrible right now, they just don't warrant any play.  I think the better bet is the under.  I see this game ending up in the low 30's.  Both SD and OAK have played under in their last 5 games respectively.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2008 - 8:42 PM ET #11

    Oakland + 10 very tempting, but with the unpredictability of both of these teams it is difficult to call.  Either way I like the over here, Oakland will put up 17-20 and San Diego will certainly take care of the rest.
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    Oakland + 10 very tempting, but with the unpredictability of both of these teams it is difficult to call.  Either way I like the over here, Oakland will put up 17-20 and San Diego will certainly take care of the rest.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2008 - 9:44 PM ET #12

    under cable the raiders and not giving up any more of those pathetic 25 point 4th quarter letdowns....the raiders vets are very very motivated from what I read about trying to beat each divisional opponent ..they beat denver then kc and now denver is in sight.....if mcfadden cuts loose its going to be a contest.....
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    under cable the raiders and not giving up any more of those pathetic 25 point 4th quarter letdowns....the raiders vets are very very motivated from what I read about trying to beat each divisional opponent ..they beat denver then kc and now denver is in sight.....if mcfadden cuts loose its going to be a contest.....
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2008 - 10:03 PM ET #13

    under
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    under
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2008 - 2:13 PM ET #15

     este juego es un maco penpen no opino
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     este juego es un maco penpen no opino
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2008 - 2:24 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by m_angel175:

     este juego es un maco penpen no opino

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    Quote Originally Posted by m_angel175:

     este juego es un maco penpen no opino

    English.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2008 - 2:31 PM ET #17

    Tomlinson is not 100% and he is well under what he normally puts up for ypg...he is their weapon....looking at the under but I wont touch the first half nfw!!
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    Tomlinson is not 100% and he is well under what he normally puts up for ypg...he is their weapon....looking at the under but I wont touch the first half nfw!!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2008 - 2:40 PM ET #18

    Oakland + 10 against the struggling chargers

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    Oakland + 10 against the struggling chargers

     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2008 - 3:25 PM ET #19

    I can't believe i am gonna bet on this game...
     
    I can't lay off on a game i 'll be watching.  =(
     
    This is like a early Loser Bowl.
     
    Both teams are capable of looking like a true losers...
     
    SD has owned Oakland for as long as I can remember.
     
    But SD looked terrible in the last game vs Oakland in the first half.. and only covered 'cause of last min Miracle TD run by LT.
     
    The low-voltage Bolts have dropped 5 of their last 6 games (last 2 at home), beating only the KC Chiefs by one point during that span.
     
    The Raiders, on the other hand, have been beating teams they have no business winning (Den, NYJ)... while still performing acts of utter stupidity at times.
     
    You can probably flip a coin for both ATS and over/under in this game... and be correct 45% of the time all the time.  =)
     
    Today is Wed, so I am leaning towards SD -9, hoping they come out fired up after losing 2 in a row at home, grasping at the last breathe of playoff hope they have.
     
    Tmrw is Thur, so I may decide to go Oakland Money Line.. and hope Norv and LT still are not talking to each other...
     
    Or if Raiders are wearing black jersey, i 'll bet on Oak...
     
    Doh!    I should just lay off this one.
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    I can't believe i am gonna bet on this game...
     
    I can't lay off on a game i 'll be watching.  =(
     
    This is like a early Loser Bowl.
     
    Both teams are capable of looking like a true losers...
     
    SD has owned Oakland for as long as I can remember.
     
    But SD looked terrible in the last game vs Oakland in the first half.. and only covered 'cause of last min Miracle TD run by LT.
     
    The low-voltage Bolts have dropped 5 of their last 6 games (last 2 at home), beating only the KC Chiefs by one point during that span.
     
    The Raiders, on the other hand, have been beating teams they have no business winning (Den, NYJ)... while still performing acts of utter stupidity at times.
     
    You can probably flip a coin for both ATS and over/under in this game... and be correct 45% of the time all the time.  =)
     
    Today is Wed, so I am leaning towards SD -9, hoping they come out fired up after losing 2 in a row at home, grasping at the last breathe of playoff hope they have.
     
    Tmrw is Thur, so I may decide to go Oakland Money Line.. and hope Norv and LT still are not talking to each other...
     
    Or if Raiders are wearing black jersey, i 'll bet on Oak...
     
    Doh!    I should just lay off this one.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2008 - 3:41 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by crazycarlitos:

    game... and be correct 45% of the time all the time.  =)
     

    or was it

    ..45 % of the the time, it works everytime..

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycarlitos:

    game... and be correct 45% of the time all the time.  =)
     

    or was it

    ..45 % of the the time, it works everytime..

     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2008 - 4:58 PM ET #21

    Some big Thursday night game, huh!?!? - UGH!!! I flipped a coin and it came up Raiders, so I'll go with that. HA!!  -  9.5 points is too many for either of these teams to be getting, so I figure the Raiders cover, if for no other reason than that.....
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    Some big Thursday night game, huh!?!? - UGH!!! I flipped a coin and it came up Raiders, so I'll go with that. HA!!  -  9.5 points is too many for either of these teams to be getting, so I figure the Raiders cover, if for no other reason than that.....
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2008 - 6:13 PM ET #22

    What about a nice little tease with San Diego -4 and the under at 48...... Neither team is a big scorer and they both suck!
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    What about a nice little tease with San Diego -4 and the under at 48...... Neither team is a big scorer and they both suck!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2008 - 10:18 PM ET #23

    ~under 42.5 pts~

    oakland is 8-3 to the under this year, while the chargers are 7-4.  last 2 meetings in sd have also stayed under..

    oakland is ranked 8th vs the pass, but 29th vs the run - expect lots of LT on the ground, and the Raiders will likely just want to pound and shorten the game.

    we are getting an extra 3 points here cause of the prime time games trending over all year - this total s/b about 39-40.  this one stays under.
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    ~under 42.5 pts~

    oakland is 8-3 to the under this year, while the chargers are 7-4.  last 2 meetings in sd have also stayed under..

    oakland is ranked 8th vs the pass, but 29th vs the run - expect lots of LT on the ground, and the Raiders will likely just want to pound and shorten the game.

    we are getting an extra 3 points here cause of the prime time games trending over all year - this total s/b about 39-40.  this one stays under.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2008 - 11:42 PM ET #24

    hey I love football and it doesnt matter who's on,  its always a mystery of whats going to come about .....oakland is going to be playing hard I think ...the vets have stated they have a goal to defeat all of their divisional opponents ...they beat denver a few weeks back and bumped off kc in wk. 2 so this will complete their goal!!
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    hey I love football and it doesnt matter who's on,  its always a mystery of whats going to come about .....oakland is going to be playing hard I think ...the vets have stated they have a goal to defeat all of their divisional opponents ...they beat denver a few weeks back and bumped off kc in wk. 2 so this will complete their goal!!
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2008 - 1:13 AM ET #25

    both teams are too inconsistent for me to bet on.  living in northern california, im "lucky" enough to watch every raider game as it is.  it makes me want to throw up.  maybe with a gun to my head i would take SD
     
    GL to everyone that watches this game.
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    both teams are too inconsistent for me to bet on.  living in northern california, im "lucky" enough to watch every raider game as it is.  it makes me want to throw up.  maybe with a gun to my head i would take SD
     
    GL to everyone that watches this game.
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