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    estes1717
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2012 - 10:34 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

    Great news for my Saints pick that Colin Cowherd is on Dallas.  Nothing like people blindly following a television personality who like everyone else wouldn't be on tv if he could make enough in Vegas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

    Great news for my Saints pick that Colin Cowherd is on Dallas.  Nothing like people blindly following a television personality who like everyone else wouldn't be on tv if he could make enough in Vegas.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2012 - 11:28 AM ET #27


    Hate to say it...

    Cowblows  Big


    BOLA
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    Hate to say it...

    Cowblows  Big


    BOLA
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2012 - 11:38 AM ET #28

    New Orleans Saints +1 
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    New Orleans Saints +1 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2012 - 12:12 PM ET #29

    NO allows 5 ypc on the ground.  TB didn't get much running last week as they threw it 47 times playing catch up.  The rest of the Saints opponents had good success on the ground.  Not to mention they aren't great stopping the pass either.  Since Murray has been back for Dallas, they have yet to lose and played much better defenses.  Should be close as the Saints will score with passing often to Graham, Sproles, and WR's covered by anyone not named Claiborne or Carr.  Those are the areas Dallas can be exposed by good athletes...with coverage by back-up ILBs, 3rd and 4th corners, or safeties.  Dallas has to turn to average players in the fill-in roles in those areas.  So Graham and Sproles will both have a big day no doubt.

    Love the OVER, and it's gonna be a toss-up in who wins.  Prob have to take Dallas small, as they are 7-1 when Murray rushes over 80 yards in his career.  Only loss was last sec FG miss to Baltimore.  The offense is very dangerous when they can have balance and Murray will no doubt give them that against Saints awful run defense.

    BTW, as a Dallas fan, there were 4 games I saw them play with real fire and aggressive nature...NYG, Balt, Atl, and Pitt.  They ended 2-2 but had real shot at 4-0 in those and against powerful opponents.  All were leading their division at the time.  If they come out like that again this week, Saints in big trouble.  They're defense is nowhere near those 4 teams above.

    One last thing, Argentum made a very intriguing point about The Sean Payton bowl.  It's very real in this case.  The loser will increase their chances of landing Payton incredibly.  Garrett likely won't lose his job finishing at 9-7 with the most injured team I've ever witnessed in my years as a Cowboys fan.  But with a loss, Dallas is very much in the hunt for Payton, if not leading.  

    People really don't understand how close Payton and Jerry are.  And also, Sean Payton loves a huge challenge.  He could move from great coach to legendary if he took over a floundering Dallas club and made them champions again.  That would be two teams he saved from mediocrity and brought to the promised land.  How many NFL coaches have done that in history?  And if you do that in Dallas you are a God for life in a glamour town...trust me.
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    NO allows 5 ypc on the ground.  TB didn't get much running last week as they threw it 47 times playing catch up.  The rest of the Saints opponents had good success on the ground.  Not to mention they aren't great stopping the pass either.  Since Murray has been back for Dallas, they have yet to lose and played much better defenses.  Should be close as the Saints will score with passing often to Graham, Sproles, and WR's covered by anyone not named Claiborne or Carr.  Those are the areas Dallas can be exposed by good athletes...with coverage by back-up ILBs, 3rd and 4th corners, or safeties.  Dallas has to turn to average players in the fill-in roles in those areas.  So Graham and Sproles will both have a big day no doubt.

    Love the OVER, and it's gonna be a toss-up in who wins.  Prob have to take Dallas small, as they are 7-1 when Murray rushes over 80 yards in his career.  Only loss was last sec FG miss to Baltimore.  The offense is very dangerous when they can have balance and Murray will no doubt give them that against Saints awful run defense.

    BTW, as a Dallas fan, there were 4 games I saw them play with real fire and aggressive nature...NYG, Balt, Atl, and Pitt.  They ended 2-2 but had real shot at 4-0 in those and against powerful opponents.  All were leading their division at the time.  If they come out like that again this week, Saints in big trouble.  They're defense is nowhere near those 4 teams above.

    One last thing, Argentum made a very intriguing point about The Sean Payton bowl.  It's very real in this case.  The loser will increase their chances of landing Payton incredibly.  Garrett likely won't lose his job finishing at 9-7 with the most injured team I've ever witnessed in my years as a Cowboys fan.  But with a loss, Dallas is very much in the hunt for Payton, if not leading.  

    People really don't understand how close Payton and Jerry are.  And also, Sean Payton loves a huge challenge.  He could move from great coach to legendary if he took over a floundering Dallas club and made them champions again.  That would be two teams he saved from mediocrity and brought to the promised land.  How many NFL coaches have done that in history?  And if you do that in Dallas you are a God for life in a glamour town...trust me.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2012 - 12:13 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

    Great news for my Saints pick that Colin Cowherd is on Dallas.  Nothing like people blindly following a television personality who like everyone else wouldn't be on tv if he could make enough in Vegas.

    Actually....Cowherd is something like 42-24 ATS this year.

    Dallas is somehow always playing from behind at home and playing with the lead on the road. Dallas has to be one of the worst home field advantages ever. Opponents get jacked to play at Jerry World. Saints deserve a hard look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

    Great news for my Saints pick that Colin Cowherd is on Dallas.  Nothing like people blindly following a television personality who like everyone else wouldn't be on tv if he could make enough in Vegas.

    Actually....Cowherd is something like 42-24 ATS this year.

    Dallas is somehow always playing from behind at home and playing with the lead on the road. Dallas has to be one of the worst home field advantages ever. Opponents get jacked to play at Jerry World. Saints deserve a hard look.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2012 - 12:13 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

    Great news for my Saints pick that Colin Cowherd is on Dallas.  Nothing like people blindly following a television personality who like everyone else wouldn't be on tv if he could make enough in Vegas.



    The guy has been correct around 70% this year.

    How's your record?
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    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

    Great news for my Saints pick that Colin Cowherd is on Dallas.  Nothing like people blindly following a television personality who like everyone else wouldn't be on tv if he could make enough in Vegas.



    The guy has been correct around 70% this year.

    How's your record?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2012 - 12:47 PM ET #32

    IF THERE IS TWO TEAMS YOU NEED TO BE CAREFUL WITH WITH COHERD, ITS THE SEAHAWKS AND COWBOYS.  OUTSIDE OF THAT HES MONEY.

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    IF THERE IS TWO TEAMS YOU NEED TO BE CAREFUL WITH WITH COHERD, ITS THE SEAHAWKS AND COWBOYS.  OUTSIDE OF THAT HES MONEY.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2012 - 12:47 PM ET #33

    like n.o. here 
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    like n.o. here 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2012 - 12:49 PM ET #34

    Colin is definitely tight but this week he slips!!!! Even slippiing ben lit this secondary up. Dal is not playing good def neither is new orl but new orl lost games against iron teams the past few weeks. Dallas aint iron son. Saints 34-31. Get this money. Saints and OV for th larhhhhhhge. Hitchin up to W8 train son!!!!!
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    Colin is definitely tight but this week he slips!!!! Even slippiing ben lit this secondary up. Dal is not playing good def neither is new orl but new orl lost games against iron teams the past few weeks. Dallas aint iron son. Saints 34-31. Get this money. Saints and OV for th larhhhhhhge. Hitchin up to W8 train son!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2012 - 12:53 PM ET #35

    I agree with you Fork..I think hes wrong on sea as well. Actually i see him only getting giants this week, maybe skins although mccoy coming back migh keep it close. Sfran better than seattle, browns are quitters-den will pound them
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    I agree with you Fork..I think hes wrong on sea as well. Actually i see him only getting giants this week, maybe skins although mccoy coming back migh keep it close. Sfran better than seattle, browns are quitters-den will pound them
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2012 - 12:54 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by forkball:

    IF THERE IS TWO TEAMS YOU NEED TO BE CAREFUL WITH WITH COHERD, ITS THE SEAHAWKS AND COWBOYS.  OUTSIDE OF THAT HES MONEY.



    Yeah, I considered that. He is a Cowboys lover, but every point he brought up was solid, plus I just feel that the public is overreacting a little from the Saints win last week. I have no doubt it's going to be a close game, but I lean a little to the better defense and even though they shut out the Bucs last week, it's only one game. If they did this more I may have gone the other way.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by forkball:

    IF THERE IS TWO TEAMS YOU NEED TO BE CAREFUL WITH WITH COHERD, ITS THE SEAHAWKS AND COWBOYS.  OUTSIDE OF THAT HES MONEY.



    Yeah, I considered that. He is a Cowboys lover, but every point he brought up was solid, plus I just feel that the public is overreacting a little from the Saints win last week. I have no doubt it's going to be a close game, but I lean a little to the better defense and even though they shut out the Bucs last week, it's only one game. If they did this more I may have gone the other way.....
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