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    New Orleans at Chicago (12/11/2008)

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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2008 - 8:56 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by Irisheyez:

    N.O. has had only two games go under in the last month.......both by a point!!!  This total is at 44 and will go down with the bad weather low players that will bang it down in the last 23 hours.........load up on the over.......N.O. is one of the best over plays every single week...........the Bears don't have the type of defense to defend this balanced attack.  Bears might win.......I don't care.........I'll be rooting for both teams all night and pounding the over!!!!

    I agree, Irish.  Unless the weather is unbelievably bad this one should go over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irisheyez:

    N.O. has had only two games go under in the last month.......both by a point!!!  This total is at 44 and will go down with the bad weather low players that will bang it down in the last 23 hours.........load up on the over.......N.O. is one of the best over plays every single week...........the Bears don't have the type of defense to defend this balanced attack.  Bears might win.......I don't care.........I'll be rooting for both teams all night and pounding the over!!!!

    I agree, Irish.  Unless the weather is unbelievably bad this one should go over.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2008 - 10:02 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by irishkid:

    simply comes down to who is the home team. chicago in december gonna be shitty weather and look for that Bears D to put brees on his ass.


    Bears D sucks and has no heart ...But Brees will have a bad day on his own... Forte will win this game for the Bears as Saints have no will to tackle in the cold, cold tundra Soldier Field or whatever it is called these days...
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    Quote Originally Posted by irishkid:

    simply comes down to who is the home team. chicago in december gonna be shitty weather and look for that Bears D to put brees on his ass.


    Bears D sucks and has no heart ...But Brees will have a bad day on his own... Forte will win this game for the Bears as Saints have no will to tackle in the cold, cold tundra Soldier Field or whatever it is called these days...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2008 - 10:04 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by jmmychampion:

    pick of the week here fellows will slap350 on saint -3 and parlay it for 150 with the under. would like some insight as something else to two team parlay it up with i like it that muchi think the line will b going up up up in this one you never know with the totals but amthinking bears suck and cant do squat on offensei see it 27 to13( laening toward washington -  wat cha all think tag yalls it6.5


    Jimmy chumpion.....any hope you might of had of getting "picked up" for your outstanding picks is going out the window here... Saints dont even want to get off the plane in this one....
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmmychampion:

    pick of the week here fellows will slap350 on saint -3 and parlay it for 150 with the under. would like some insight as something else to two team parlay it up with i like it that muchi think the line will b going up up up in this one you never know with the totals but amthinking bears suck and cant do squat on offensei see it 27 to13( laening toward washington -  wat cha all think tag yalls it6.5


    Jimmy chumpion.....any hope you might of had of getting "picked up" for your outstanding picks is going out the window here... Saints dont even want to get off the plane in this one....
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2008 - 10:08 AM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by bvent:

    This is a tough game to cap. Like many of you have mentioned the Saints have been aweful on the road. But they've lost road games to Carolina, Atlanta, Tampa, Washington, and Denver. All pretty good home teams. Their only road win is against the lowly Chiefs.
     
    Along with the weather the Saints lack of Def will be one of the deciding factors in this game. Chicago is a hard place to play on a normal Sunday. Move the game to prime time and lower the temp to about 20 degrees and its even more difficult.The Bears are averaging almost 27 points a game at home while allowing a little over 23 ppg. Meanwhile the Saints are allowing 28 points on the road while scoring an average of 22 points per outing on the road. IMO neither of these teams will put up a lot of points in tonight's match up and the UNDER is probably the play here.
     
    Drew Brees is a different QB on the road than he is at home. He has 7 touchdown passes in 6 road games but 16 in 6 home games...one game that I didn't include with the home games was played in England where he had 3 TD passes. Brees also has 10 INT's on the road compared to just 4 at home. His QB rating is much worse on the road than it is at home and his play will be another factor in this game. On grass is QB rating is 86.6 compared to 105.3 on turf. His rating in road games is 76.7 compared to 117.2 in road games.
     
    Kyle Orton isn't anything special whether he is playing at home or on the road, but has been playing better as of late. If the Bears can establish the run and allow Orton to make short 5 - 10 yards passes to Matt Forte and Devin Hester then the Bears will win this game.
     
    Bears -3
    Under 46
     
    Good Luck on your play!


    Good write up!!!
    The only thing that matters in Chicago in December at night is the f--ing cold
    Tomorrow night: Some flurries during the evening hours. Then cloudy skies overnight. Low 19F. Winds WNW at 10 to 20 mph.

    BET The under with both hands and take the BEARS ( better running game) -3
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    Quote Originally Posted by bvent:

    This is a tough game to cap. Like many of you have mentioned the Saints have been aweful on the road. But they've lost road games to Carolina, Atlanta, Tampa, Washington, and Denver. All pretty good home teams. Their only road win is against the lowly Chiefs.
     
    Along with the weather the Saints lack of Def will be one of the deciding factors in this game. Chicago is a hard place to play on a normal Sunday. Move the game to prime time and lower the temp to about 20 degrees and its even more difficult.The Bears are averaging almost 27 points a game at home while allowing a little over 23 ppg. Meanwhile the Saints are allowing 28 points on the road while scoring an average of 22 points per outing on the road. IMO neither of these teams will put up a lot of points in tonight's match up and the UNDER is probably the play here.
     
    Drew Brees is a different QB on the road than he is at home. He has 7 touchdown passes in 6 road games but 16 in 6 home games...one game that I didn't include with the home games was played in England where he had 3 TD passes. Brees also has 10 INT's on the road compared to just 4 at home. His QB rating is much worse on the road than it is at home and his play will be another factor in this game. On grass is QB rating is 86.6 compared to 105.3 on turf. His rating in road games is 76.7 compared to 117.2 in road games.
     
    Kyle Orton isn't anything special whether he is playing at home or on the road, but has been playing better as of late. If the Bears can establish the run and allow Orton to make short 5 - 10 yards passes to Matt Forte and Devin Hester then the Bears will win this game.
     
    Bears -3
    Under 46
     
    Good Luck on your play!


    Good write up!!!
    The only thing that matters in Chicago in December at night is the f--ing cold
    Tomorrow night: Some flurries during the evening hours. Then cloudy skies overnight. Low 19F. Winds WNW at 10 to 20 mph.

    BET The under with both hands and take the BEARS ( better running game) -3
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2008 - 10:14 AM ET #30

     
      12/10/2008 10:11 AM    Spread    400.00    400.00    Football - 302 Chicago Bears -3 +100 for Game  

      12/10/2008 10:11 AM    Total    660.00    600.00    Football - 301 New Orleans Saints/Chicago Bears under 45 -110 for Game  
     
      12/10/2008 10:11 AM    Total    805.00    700.00    Football - 301 New Orleans Saints/Chicago Bears under 23 -115 for 1st Half  

      12/10/2008 10:12 AM    Parlay    500.00    1,346.45    Football - 302 Chicago Bears -3 +100 for Game
      Football - 301 New Orleans Saints/Chicago Bears under 23 -115 for 1st Half 
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      12/10/2008 10:11 AM    Spread    400.00    400.00    Football - 302 Chicago Bears -3 +100 for Game  

      12/10/2008 10:11 AM    Total    660.00    600.00    Football - 301 New Orleans Saints/Chicago Bears under 45 -110 for Game  
     
      12/10/2008 10:11 AM    Total    805.00    700.00    Football - 301 New Orleans Saints/Chicago Bears under 23 -115 for 1st Half  

      12/10/2008 10:12 AM    Parlay    500.00    1,346.45    Football - 302 Chicago Bears -3 +100 for Game
      Football - 301 New Orleans Saints/Chicago Bears under 23 -115 for 1st Half 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2008 - 10:15 AM ET #31

    I am ready
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2008 - 11:22 AM ET #32

    Hell aido0909 its will be a nasty game (i meant a low score game) firsthalf prob. 7 and 3 N.O and saint will cover by seven point at the end of the game ,,go with the under firsthalf ,,over second half bol viet nam phãi ko ( lua vào dó)
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    Hell aido0909 its will be a nasty game (i meant a low score game) firsthalf prob. 7 and 3 N.O and saint will cover by seven point at the end of the game ,,go with the under firsthalf ,,over second half bol viet nam phãi ko ( lua vào dó)
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2008 - 12:48 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by dencol:



    Bears D sucks and has no heart ...But Brees will have a bad day on his own... Forte will win this game for the Bears as Saints have no will to tackle in the cold, cold tundra Soldier Field or whatever it is called these days...


    oh is that so??????  is that why the Bears D held the Titans Smash n Dash run game to what?   25 total yards????? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by dencol:



    Bears D sucks and has no heart ...But Brees will have a bad day on his own... Forte will win this game for the Bears as Saints have no will to tackle in the cold, cold tundra Soldier Field or whatever it is called these days...


    oh is that so??????  is that why the Bears D held the Titans Smash n Dash run game to what?   25 total yards????? 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2008 - 12:54 PM ET #34

    I'm going to wait till closer to game time in this one pending the weather but leaning on the under. Pierre Thomas came up big for the Saints running game last week I see the Saints using that to their advantage again in this one. Forte has been a beast all season for the Bears as well and should be utililized as well in this one.
     
    I'm banking on both teams on utilizing their running game in bad weather so that's why I'm leaning on the under.
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    I'm going to wait till closer to game time in this one pending the weather but leaning on the under. Pierre Thomas came up big for the Saints running game last week I see the Saints using that to their advantage again in this one. Forte has been a beast all season for the Bears as well and should be utililized as well in this one.
     
    I'm banking on both teams on utilizing their running game in bad weather so that's why I'm leaning on the under.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2008 - 1:03 PM ET #35

      12/10/2008 12:42 AM     Spread     500.00     500.00     Football - 302 Chicago Bears -3  +100 for Game  

      12/10/2008 10:11 AM     Total     825.00     750.00     Football - 301 New Orleans Saints/Chicago Bears under 45 -110 for Game  
     
      12/10/2008 10:11 AM     Total    1150.00    1000.00     Football - 301 New Orleans Saints/Chicago Bears under 23 -115 for 1st Half  

      12/10/2008 10:12 AM     Parlay     1000.00     2,692.90     Football - 302 Chicago Bears -3 +100 for Game
      Football - 301 New Orleans Saints/Chicago Bears under 23 -115 for 1st Half 
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      12/10/2008 12:42 AM     Spread     500.00     500.00     Football - 302 Chicago Bears -3  +100 for Game  

      12/10/2008 10:11 AM     Total     825.00     750.00     Football - 301 New Orleans Saints/Chicago Bears under 45 -110 for Game  
     
      12/10/2008 10:11 AM     Total    1150.00    1000.00     Football - 301 New Orleans Saints/Chicago Bears under 23 -115 for 1st Half  

      12/10/2008 10:12 AM     Parlay     1000.00     2,692.90     Football - 302 Chicago Bears -3 +100 for Game
      Football - 301 New Orleans Saints/Chicago Bears under 23 -115 for 1st Half 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2008 - 1:49 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by samfelix:

    Two teams with identical records late in the season. One is bad on the road, one is very good at home.
    One plays indoors on turf, the other outdoors on grass. One has a tough defense, one starts Jason David.
    I'll happily give the 3 and watch Brees toss 3 picks while the Bears slow down Bush.
    This almost seems too easy.
    Someone smarter than me tell me what I'm missing.

     

    not much missing there

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    Quote Originally Posted by samfelix:

    Two teams with identical records late in the season. One is bad on the road, one is very good at home.
    One plays indoors on turf, the other outdoors on grass. One has a tough defense, one starts Jason David.
    I'll happily give the 3 and watch Brees toss 3 picks while the Bears slow down Bush.
    This almost seems too easy.
    Someone smarter than me tell me what I'm missing.

     

    not much missing there

     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2008 - 2:15 PM ET #37

    I took a Monday night piggy back ride with Carolina and the under in the first half with ya Big D. Thanks for the ride.
     
     4 units to the good. I'm a little nervous about NO,...... but I think everyone has spelled out the way it should play.
     
     I'll put in at gametime, but it looks like Da bears -3 , staying away from that O/U! The QB's are just a little too capable of sliding either direction!
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    I took a Monday night piggy back ride with Carolina and the under in the first half with ya Big D. Thanks for the ride.
     
     4 units to the good. I'm a little nervous about NO,...... but I think everyone has spelled out the way it should play.
     
     I'll put in at gametime, but it looks like Da bears -3 , staying away from that O/U! The QB's are just a little too capable of sliding either direction!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2008 - 2:22 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by WRECKEDEM:



    oh is that so??????  is that why the Bears D held the Titans Smash n Dash run game to what?   25 total yards????? 

    wait is that the same game kerry collins threw for 289 and 2 td's THEY STILL LOST THE GAME
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    Quote Originally Posted by WRECKEDEM:



    oh is that so??????  is that why the Bears D held the Titans Smash n Dash run game to what?   25 total yards????? 

    wait is that the same game kerry collins threw for 289 and 2 td's THEY STILL LOST THE GAME
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2008 - 3:06 PM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by heavygunner:

    wait is that the same game kerry collins threw for 289 and 2 td's THEY STILL LOST THE GAME
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    What was the weather like that day gunner me boy???
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    Quote Originally Posted by heavygunner:

    wait is that the same game kerry collins threw for 289 and 2 td's THEY STILL LOST THE GAME
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    What was the weather like that day gunner me boy???
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2008 - 4:01 PM ET #40

    I think the Bears secondary could possibly get torched in this one.  However, with the chillier weather expected, I don't see the New Orleans "DOME" Saints being as much of threat with the deep ball.  The Bears lead the league in takeaways and I see the Bears winning this one and staying in the hunt for the division and wild card at worst.  I think the Bears chances of winning out are much better than the Saints! 
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    I think the Bears secondary could possibly get torched in this one.  However, with the chillier weather expected, I don't see the New Orleans "DOME" Saints being as much of threat with the deep ball.  The Bears lead the league in takeaways and I see the Bears winning this one and staying in the hunt for the division and wild card at worst.  I think the Bears chances of winning out are much better than the Saints! 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2008 - 5:09 PM ET #41

    Gonna roll with the Bears at -3. Drew Brees + Road Game + Mild Weather = Picks GL
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    Gonna roll with the Bears at -3. Drew Brees + Road Game + Mild Weather = Picks GL
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2008 - 5:15 PM ET #42

    gotta go with the bears at home here, i also think it goes over
    bears/over
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    gotta go with the bears at home here, i also think it goes over
    bears/over
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2008 - 5:43 PM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by golfer7788:

      12/10/2008 12:42 AM     Spread     500.00     500.00     Football - 302 Chicago Bears -3  +100 for Game  

      12/10/2008 10:11 AM     Total     825.00     750.00     Football - 301 New Orleans Saints/Chicago Bears under 45 -110 for Game  
     
      12/10/2008 10:11 AM     Total    1150.00    1000.00     Football - 301 New Orleans Saints/Chicago Bears under 23 -115 for 1st Half  

      12/10/2008 10:12 AM     Parlay     1000.00     2,692.90     Football - 302 Chicago Bears -3 +100 for Game
      Football - 301 New Orleans Saints/Chicago Bears under 23 -115 for 1st Half 


    Now all you have to do is get the money from your daddys trust fund and I will get you plugged in so you too can have a bet like this you moron....
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    Quote Originally Posted by golfer7788:

      12/10/2008 12:42 AM     Spread     500.00     500.00     Football - 302 Chicago Bears -3  +100 for Game  

      12/10/2008 10:11 AM     Total     825.00     750.00     Football - 301 New Orleans Saints/Chicago Bears under 45 -110 for Game  
     
      12/10/2008 10:11 AM     Total    1150.00    1000.00     Football - 301 New Orleans Saints/Chicago Bears under 23 -115 for 1st Half  

      12/10/2008 10:12 AM     Parlay     1000.00     2,692.90     Football - 302 Chicago Bears -3 +100 for Game
      Football - 301 New Orleans Saints/Chicago Bears under 23 -115 for 1st Half 


    Now all you have to do is get the money from your daddys trust fund and I will get you plugged in so you too can have a bet like this you moron....
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2008 - 6:07 PM ET #44

    Imma buy me a case of Dinosaur eggs after I win tommorow.. Omellete time bitches!

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    Imma buy me a case of Dinosaur eggs after I win tommorow.. Omellete time bitches!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2008 - 6:28 PM ET #45

    Well I gotta tell ya... I think the BEARS will cover. I like the over too. But... I'll stick with the straight play -3
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    Well I gotta tell ya... I think the BEARS will cover. I like the over too. But... I'll stick with the straight play -3
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2008 - 7:03 PM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by dencol:

     
      12/10/2008 10:11 AM    Spread    400.00    400.00    Football - 302 Chicago Bears -3 +100 for Game  

      12/10/2008 10:11 AM    Total    660.00    600.00    Football - 301 New Orleans Saints/Chicago Bears under 45 -110 for Game  
     
      12/10/2008 10:11 AM    Total    805.00    700.00    Football - 301 New Orleans Saints/Chicago Bears under 23 -115 for 1st Half  

      12/10/2008 10:12 AM    Parlay    500.00    1,346.45    Football - 302 Chicago Bears -3 +100 for Game
      Football - 301 New Orleans Saints/Chicago Bears under 23 -115 for 1st Half 


    Are you kidding me? First off, parlays are for suckers. Second off, if you are dumb enough to parlay, then at least hedge your bet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dencol:

     
      12/10/2008 10:11 AM    Spread    400.00    400.00    Football - 302 Chicago Bears -3 +100 for Game  

      12/10/2008 10:11 AM    Total    660.00    600.00    Football - 301 New Orleans Saints/Chicago Bears under 45 -110 for Game  
     
      12/10/2008 10:11 AM    Total    805.00    700.00    Football - 301 New Orleans Saints/Chicago Bears under 23 -115 for 1st Half  

      12/10/2008 10:12 AM    Parlay    500.00    1,346.45    Football - 302 Chicago Bears -3 +100 for Game
      Football - 301 New Orleans Saints/Chicago Bears under 23 -115 for 1st Half 


    Are you kidding me? First off, parlays are for suckers. Second off, if you are dumb enough to parlay, then at least hedge your bet.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2008 - 7:16 PM ET #47

    I've only been posting for a week or so and notice there is a lot of animosity in these threads. I also noticed that a lot these guys starting crap have 1 or 2 posts and seem to create an account just for that reason.
     
     
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    I've only been posting for a week or so and notice there is a lot of animosity in these threads. I also noticed that a lot these guys starting crap have 1 or 2 posts and seem to create an account just for that reason.
     
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bvent:

    I've only been posting for a week or so and notice there is a lot of animosity in these threads. I also noticed that a lot these guys starting crap have 1 or 2 posts and seem to create an account just for that reason.
     
     

    you are correct. 

    like the bears -3 at home. think forte has a great game and orton seems to be getting closer to 100%

    best of luck all
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    Quote Originally Posted by bvent:

    I've only been posting for a week or so and notice there is a lot of animosity in these threads. I also noticed that a lot these guys starting crap have 1 or 2 posts and seem to create an account just for that reason.
     
     

    you are correct. 

    like the bears -3 at home. think forte has a great game and orton seems to be getting closer to 100%

    best of luck all
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2008 - 7:28 PM ET #49

    Have to go with Chicago laying 3 here, Saints are bad road team (Only road win of the season is @ KC) While Chicago has been good at home all year. GLA
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    Have to go with Chicago laying 3 here, Saints are bad road team (Only road win of the season is @ KC) While Chicago has been good at home all year. GLA
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2008 - 8:10 PM ET #50

    spartynon,who are you to knock anyones' opinions and or bets?
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