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    New England at New York (11/13/2011)

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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2011 - 1:30 AM ET #1

    Away:  New England [4-4 ATS]
    Home:  N.Y. Jets [4-4 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:20 PM
    Stadium: MetLife Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    10/09/11 - NYJ 21 vs. NE 30

    Team Leaders:

    New England:
    Passing: Tom Brady (2703)
    Rushing: BenJarvus Green-Ellis (452)
    Receiving: Wes Welker (960)

    N.Y. Jets:
    Passing: Mark Sanchez (1775)
    Rushing: Shonn Greene (502)
    Receiving: Dustin Keller (436)

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    Away:  New England [4-4 ATS]
    Home:  N.Y. Jets [4-4 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:20 PM
    Stadium: MetLife Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    10/09/11 - NYJ 21 vs. NE 30

    Team Leaders:

    New England:
    Passing: Tom Brady (2703)
    Rushing: BenJarvus Green-Ellis (452)
    Receiving: Wes Welker (960)

    N.Y. Jets:
    Passing: Mark Sanchez (1775)
    Rushing: Shonn Greene (502)
    Receiving: Dustin Keller (436)

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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2011 - 3:22 PM ET #2

    Here we go again. I'm feeling a bit worried for the Patriots after they lost 2 straight. This will be a close one, but I see the Jets pulling this one off. the Dynasty is dead. Brady is getting old/past his prime, Belichick has gotten figured out by opposing coaches, and they have made too many "controversial/gimmick" signings this year.

    Jets -1
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    Here we go again. I'm feeling a bit worried for the Patriots after they lost 2 straight. This will be a close one, but I see the Jets pulling this one off. the Dynasty is dead. Brady is getting old/past his prime, Belichick has gotten figured out by opposing coaches, and they have made too many "controversial/gimmick" signings this year.

    Jets -1
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2011 - 6:33 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by NNMsports:

    Here we go again. I'm feeling a bit worried for the Patriots after they lost 2 straight. This will be a close one, but I see the Jets pulling this one off. the Dynasty is dead. Brady is getting old/past his prime, Belichick has gotten figured out by opposing coaches, and they have made too many "controversial/gimmick" signings this year.

    Jets -1

    Couldnt agree more

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    Quote Originally Posted by NNMsports:

    Here we go again. I'm feeling a bit worried for the Patriots after they lost 2 straight. This will be a close one, but I see the Jets pulling this one off. the Dynasty is dead. Brady is getting old/past his prime, Belichick has gotten figured out by opposing coaches, and they have made too many "controversial/gimmick" signings this year.

    Jets -1

    Couldnt agree more

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2011 - 9:27 PM ET #4

    POUNDING POUNDING   the over 47

     

    my NFL UNDERDOG Logic to the rescue folks.  take New England +1.    new england being the underdog.....is  J O K E

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    POUNDING POUNDING   the over 47

     

    my NFL UNDERDOG Logic to the rescue folks.  take New England +1.    new england being the underdog.....is  J O K E

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 11:22 AM ET #5

    This is the SUPERBOWL for the Jets. Rex Ryan "isn't here to kiss the ring". Good chance he's been gameplanning for this one since the end of last season. Jets finally getting their defense together, holding powerful Buffalo offense to only 11 points, a team that was averaging 31 points up in the weeks before. 
    That being said, CAN YOU REALLY SEE THE HOODIE LOSING 3 GAMES IN A ROW? Tom Brady, Wes Welker, Danny Woodhead, Benjarvus Green-Ellis, Kevin Faulk, Deon Branch, Rob Gronkowski...
    In the words of OCHOCINCO.
    CHILD PLEASE
    NE ML
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    This is the SUPERBOWL for the Jets. Rex Ryan "isn't here to kiss the ring". Good chance he's been gameplanning for this one since the end of last season. Jets finally getting their defense together, holding powerful Buffalo offense to only 11 points, a team that was averaging 31 points up in the weeks before. 
    That being said, CAN YOU REALLY SEE THE HOODIE LOSING 3 GAMES IN A ROW? Tom Brady, Wes Welker, Danny Woodhead, Benjarvus Green-Ellis, Kevin Faulk, Deon Branch, Rob Gronkowski...
    In the words of OCHOCINCO.
    CHILD PLEASE
    NE ML
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 3:45 PM ET #6

    I dont see ne,losing 3in a row.ill take ne ml.
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    I dont see ne,losing 3in a row.ill take ne ml.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 6:21 PM ET #7

    NE loss = end of Pats glory days. NFL coaches onto Bellichecks style, obvious in fighting with the release of fat albert. If the Jets get outta there with a win, this game will be the changing of the gaurd. Bostons sports glory days are now appearing in the rearview mirror.
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    NE loss = end of Pats glory days. NFL coaches onto Bellichecks style, obvious in fighting with the release of fat albert. If the Jets get outta there with a win, this game will be the changing of the gaurd. Bostons sports glory days are now appearing in the rearview mirror.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2011 - 11:29 AM ET #8

    I love it and not because Im a homer. When you count any team out....especially the pats...you will get burnt. Heres a little something.

    Patriots have won 14 of the last 18 meetings.

    Patriots are 36-20 ATS vs. AFC East opponents since 2001.

    Tom Brady is 126-43 as a starter (98-67 ATS). Tom Brady is 23-11 ATS off a loss.

    Tom Brady is 15-7 ATS off a loss since 2003.

    Tom Brady is 14-7 ATS as an underdog since 2003.

    Bill Belichick is 7-1 ATS as an underdog after losing as a favorite.

    Pats and ov for the large!!!!!

    If you’re not large, you’re small - the DOC
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    I love it and not because Im a homer. When you count any team out....especially the pats...you will get burnt. Heres a little something.

    Patriots have won 14 of the last 18 meetings.

    Patriots are 36-20 ATS vs. AFC East opponents since 2001.

    Tom Brady is 126-43 as a starter (98-67 ATS). Tom Brady is 23-11 ATS off a loss.

    Tom Brady is 15-7 ATS off a loss since 2003.

    Tom Brady is 14-7 ATS as an underdog since 2003.

    Bill Belichick is 7-1 ATS as an underdog after losing as a favorite.

    Pats and ov for the large!!!!!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2011 - 1:58 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by DrDogs:

     
    Patriots have won 14 of the last 18 meetings.

    Patriots are 36-20 ATS vs. AFC East opponents since 2001.

    Tom Brady is 126-43 as a starter (98-67 ATS). Tom Brady is 23-11 ATS off a loss.

    Tom Brady is 15-7 ATS off a loss since 2003.

    Tom Brady is 14-7 ATS as an underdog since 2003.

    Bill Belichick is 7-1 ATS as an underdog after losing as a favorite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrDogs:

     
    Patriots have won 14 of the last 18 meetings.

    Patriots are 36-20 ATS vs. AFC East opponents since 2001.

    Tom Brady is 126-43 as a starter (98-67 ATS). Tom Brady is 23-11 ATS off a loss.

    Tom Brady is 15-7 ATS off a loss since 2003.

    Tom Brady is 14-7 ATS as an underdog since 2003.

    Bill Belichick is 7-1 ATS as an underdog after losing as a favorite.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2011 - 8:47 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by au4040:

    In the words of OCHOCINCO.
    CHILD PLEASE
    NE ML

    "But, how do you stop 85?????????"

    Apparently, you put him on a team with a bunch of better, more talented, younger, and less egotistical receivers. "Ocho Stinko" has 9 receptions for 136 yards and no touchdowns - that's not just one game folks, that's the whole year!!!!!!!

    Bodden's gone, Paynesworth's gone, and I think if Chad doesn't pull his head out this week, he is too.

    Soooooooo, now, having said that, I think "Revis Island" will be worrying more about all of the other receiving weapons on this Patriots squad - and you know Belichick has something up his sleeve (or in his hood). Plus, I still just can't buy into "The Sanchise" just yet........

    Pats - M/L - but just a small play..........

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by au4040:

    In the words of OCHOCINCO.
    CHILD PLEASE
    NE ML

    "But, how do you stop 85?????????"

    Apparently, you put him on a team with a bunch of better, more talented, younger, and less egotistical receivers. "Ocho Stinko" has 9 receptions for 136 yards and no touchdowns - that's not just one game folks, that's the whole year!!!!!!!

    Bodden's gone, Paynesworth's gone, and I think if Chad doesn't pull his head out this week, he is too.

    Soooooooo, now, having said that, I think "Revis Island" will be worrying more about all of the other receiving weapons on this Patriots squad - and you know Belichick has something up his sleeve (or in his hood). Plus, I still just can't buy into "The Sanchise" just yet........

    Pats - M/L - but just a small play..........

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by U-Z:

    NE loss = end of Pats glory days. NFL coaches onto Bellichecks style, obvious in fighting with the release of fat albert. If the Jets get outta there with a win, this game will be the changing of the gaurd. Bostons sports glory days are now appearing in the rearview mirror.

    Hey U-Z],

    You arent the first one to comment upon this belief. And you would have a decent point if you had only rememebered, that Boston is still a town of glorius days filled with Championship feeling, due to:

    THE BOSTON BRUINS STANLEY CUP WIN 2011!!!!!!!!!!!

    Its been... How long???? mmmm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by U-Z:

    NE loss = end of Pats glory days. NFL coaches onto Bellichecks style, obvious in fighting with the release of fat albert. If the Jets get outta there with a win, this game will be the changing of the gaurd. Bostons sports glory days are now appearing in the rearview mirror.

    Hey U-Z],

    You arent the first one to comment upon this belief. And you would have a decent point if you had only rememebered, that Boston is still a town of glorius days filled with Championship feeling, due to:

    THE BOSTON BRUINS STANLEY CUP WIN 2011!!!!!!!!!!!

    Its been... How long???? mmmm...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by redwally:

    Hey U-Z],

    You arent the first one to comment upon this belief. And you would have a decent point if you had only rememebered, that Boston is still a town of glorius days filled with Championship feeling, due to:

    THE BOSTON BRUINS STANLEY CUP WIN 2011!!!!!!!!!!!

    Its been... How long???? mmmm...

    There is no way that Boston can sustain its winnnig ways like they have. The Sox are done, that run is over. Brady aint 27 years old anymore, and the hoodie aint coaching till hes 85. As far as the NBA we all know thats a wash this year and i conceed to you the Bruins cause I cant argue hockey without looking like an uneducated fool.  All good things come to an end, sometimes to a horrible end (PSU).

    That being said, Im shocked the Jets are favored here. I really cant see them winnig but I said the same about the playoff game last year. If the Jets do pull it out, I cant consider NE to be a top shelf team anymore. Without Brady I can see the Pats falling to the same fate as the Colts. Brady has more career in the rearview mirror than in the windshield right now. That does not bode well for the Pats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redwally:

    Hey U-Z],

    You arent the first one to comment upon this belief. And you would have a decent point if you had only rememebered, that Boston is still a town of glorius days filled with Championship feeling, due to:

    THE BOSTON BRUINS STANLEY CUP WIN 2011!!!!!!!!!!!

    Its been... How long???? mmmm...

    There is no way that Boston can sustain its winnnig ways like they have. The Sox are done, that run is over. Brady aint 27 years old anymore, and the hoodie aint coaching till hes 85. As far as the NBA we all know thats a wash this year and i conceed to you the Bruins cause I cant argue hockey without looking like an uneducated fool.  All good things come to an end, sometimes to a horrible end (PSU).

    That being said, Im shocked the Jets are favored here. I really cant see them winnig but I said the same about the playoff game last year. If the Jets do pull it out, I cant consider NE to be a top shelf team anymore. Without Brady I can see the Pats falling to the same fate as the Colts. Brady has more career in the rearview mirror than in the windshield right now. That does not bode well for the Pats.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2011 - 4:28 PM ET #13

    JOKE OF THE YEAR !!!!


    LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK.....

    New England + 120
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    JOKE OF THE YEAR !!!!


    LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK.....

    New England + 120
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2011 - 6:07 PM ET #14

    NYJ +1 (1u) - i may wait till sunday to pull the trigger to see if the public pushes the line to 3. Score: Patriots 24 - Jets 27,
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    NYJ +1 (1u) - i may wait till sunday to pull the trigger to see if the public pushes the line to 3. Score: Patriots 24 - Jets 27,
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2011 - 9:41 PM ET #15

        Until New England digs up a defense, all the trend analysis in the world is not going to work. And ditto that remark, this deep into the season. If the Giants can win in Foxboro, the Jets shouldn't    have too much of a problem. Realistically though, this is going to be a very tightly fought game here. The line's not a fluke!

    N Y JETS   -1

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        Until New England digs up a defense, all the trend analysis in the world is not going to work. And ditto that remark, this deep into the season. If the Giants can win in Foxboro, the Jets shouldn't    have too much of a problem. Realistically though, this is going to be a very tightly fought game here. The line's not a fluke!

    N Y JETS   -1

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2011 - 9:11 AM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by U-Z:

    There is no way that Boston can sustain its winnnig ways like they have. The Sox are done, that run is over. Brady aint 27 years old anymore, and the hoodie aint coaching till hes 85. As far as the NBA we all know thats a wash this year and i conceed to you the Bruins cause I cant argue hockey without looking like an uneducated fool.  All good things come to an end, sometimes to a horrible end (PSU).

    That being said, Im shocked the Jets are favored here. I really cant see them winnig but I said the same about the playoff game last year. If the Jets do pull it out, I cant consider NE to be a top shelf team anymore. Without Brady I can see the Pats falling to the same fate as the Colts. Brady has more career in the rearview mirror than in the windshield right now. That does not bode well for the Pats.

     

     

     

    AMEN                   not to mention that NE hasn't won a playoff gam since....OMG 2007!    or look at it this way...The CHOKING dallas cowboys have more playoff wins the past 4 years than New England does...........Dallas with their choking qb Romo

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    Quote Originally Posted by U-Z:

    There is no way that Boston can sustain its winnnig ways like they have. The Sox are done, that run is over. Brady aint 27 years old anymore, and the hoodie aint coaching till hes 85. As far as the NBA we all know thats a wash this year and i conceed to you the Bruins cause I cant argue hockey without looking like an uneducated fool.  All good things come to an end, sometimes to a horrible end (PSU).

    That being said, Im shocked the Jets are favored here. I really cant see them winnig but I said the same about the playoff game last year. If the Jets do pull it out, I cant consider NE to be a top shelf team anymore. Without Brady I can see the Pats falling to the same fate as the Colts. Brady has more career in the rearview mirror than in the windshield right now. That does not bode well for the Pats.

     

     

     

    AMEN                   not to mention that NE hasn't won a playoff gam since....OMG 2007!    or look at it this way...The CHOKING dallas cowboys have more playoff wins the past 4 years than New England does...........Dallas with their choking qb Romo

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2011 - 11:53 AM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman23:

    JOKE OF THE YEAR !!!!


    LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK.....

    New England + 120

    C'mon dude - you've now posted this same thing in like 5 different threads. It's bad karma, plus I hate when I'm on your side and you start throwing the "L" word around like it's going out of style. This is still the NFL - - which for you should mean

    NO

    F***ING

    LOCKS!!!!!!!!!!

    especially on a 1 point spread? Are you crazy???

    But, even after all that, I still like the Pats - and I'm hoping this post takes your hex off of the game. Good luck Jets and Pats backers, let's have a good, clean, and respectable game..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman23:

    JOKE OF THE YEAR !!!!


    LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK.....

    New England + 120

    C'mon dude - you've now posted this same thing in like 5 different threads. It's bad karma, plus I hate when I'm on your side and you start throwing the "L" word around like it's going out of style. This is still the NFL - - which for you should mean

    NO

    F***ING

    LOCKS!!!!!!!!!!

    especially on a 1 point spread? Are you crazy???

    But, even after all that, I still like the Pats - and I'm hoping this post takes your hex off of the game. Good luck Jets and Pats backers, let's have a good, clean, and respectable game..........

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2011 - 2:39 PM ET #18

    New York - 31                                             New England - 23

    Jets -1                                     over 47

    Jets smack around the Brady Bunch. Who's going to guard Burress, Keller and  Holmes?  Jets play well ats at home off a divisional game.

    Jets Jets Jets ----- over

     

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    New York - 31                                             New England - 23

    Jets -1                                     over 47

    Jets smack around the Brady Bunch. Who's going to guard Burress, Keller and  Holmes?  Jets play well ats at home off a divisional game.

    Jets Jets Jets ----- over

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2011 - 3:03 PM ET #19

    I like the Jets here as well. Jets have a complete team and the Pats are missing many facets. I think the Pats passing game is a mismatch for the Jets but I think they figure out a way of slowing it down. Playing dime man packages would be a good start since the pats aren't the greatest running team.  
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    I like the Jets here as well. Jets have a complete team and the Pats are missing many facets. I think the Pats passing game is a mismatch for the Jets but I think they figure out a way of slowing it down. Playing dime man packages would be a good start since the pats aren't the greatest running team.  
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2011 - 6:04 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

    "But, how do you stop 85?????????"

    Apparently, you put him on a team with a bunch of better, more talented, younger, and less egotistical receivers. "Ocho Stinko" has 9 receptions for 136 yards and no touchdowns - that's not just one game folks, that's the whole year!!!!!!!

    Bodden's gone, Paynesworth's gone, and I think if Chad doesn't pull his head out this week, he is too.

    Soooooooo, now, having said that, I think "Revis Island" will be worrying more about all of the other receiving weapons on this Patriots squad - and you know Belichick has something up his sleeve (or in his hood). Plus, I still just can't buy into "The Sanchise" just yet........

    Pats - M/L - but just a small play..........

     

    Well said!!!  The Patriots havent lost by more than 8 all year and looking at the Jets wins they are all against marginal teams. So I will take the points and put New england in my teaser. Belichek is smarter and more devious than Ryan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

    "But, how do you stop 85?????????"

    Apparently, you put him on a team with a bunch of better, more talented, younger, and less egotistical receivers. "Ocho Stinko" has 9 receptions for 136 yards and no touchdowns - that's not just one game folks, that's the whole year!!!!!!!

    Bodden's gone, Paynesworth's gone, and I think if Chad doesn't pull his head out this week, he is too.

    Soooooooo, now, having said that, I think "Revis Island" will be worrying more about all of the other receiving weapons on this Patriots squad - and you know Belichick has something up his sleeve (or in his hood). Plus, I still just can't buy into "The Sanchise" just yet........

    Pats - M/L - but just a small play..........

     

    Well said!!!  The Patriots havent lost by more than 8 all year and looking at the Jets wins they are all against marginal teams. So I will take the points and put New england in my teaser. Belichek is smarter and more devious than Ryan.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2011 - 11:00 PM ET #21

    SUNDAYS FOOTBALL PICKS!!!

    PIT

    WAS

    NE

    NWO

    STL

    HOU

    ALL TEAMS WILL WIN BY 3 OR MORE!!!!!

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    SUNDAYS FOOTBALL PICKS!!!

    PIT

    WAS

    NE

    NWO

    STL

    HOU

    ALL TEAMS WILL WIN BY 3 OR MORE!!!!!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2011 - 12:58 AM ET #22

    BRADY'S BEEN SUCK. TIME FOR BACK UP QB.
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    BRADY'S BEEN SUCK. TIME FOR BACK UP QB.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2011 - 1:34 AM ET #23

    Normally i would agree with you vue but new eng aint san diego!!!

     

    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

        Until New England digs up a defense, all the trend analysis in the world is not going to work. And ditto that remark, this deep into the season. If the Giants can win in Foxboro, the Jets shouldn't    have too much of a problem. Realistically though, this is going to be a very tightly fought game here. The line's not a fluke!

    N Y JETS   -1

    If you’re not large, you’re small - the DOC
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    Normally i would agree with you vue but new eng aint san diego!!!

     

    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

        Until New England digs up a defense, all the trend analysis in the world is not going to work. And ditto that remark, this deep into the season. If the Giants can win in Foxboro, the Jets shouldn't    have too much of a problem. Realistically though, this is going to be a very tightly fought game here. The line's not a fluke!

    N Y JETS   -1

     
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2011 - 2:04 AM ET #24

    you know to call this the lock of the year would be crazy - I mean the Jets have found the secret formula to beat the pats on many recent occasions  , and they are favored , so whats that tell ya

    Pretty boy goes down again

    J E T S !!!! -1

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    you know to call this the lock of the year would be crazy - I mean the Jets have found the secret formula to beat the pats on many recent occasions  , and they are favored , so whats that tell ya

    Pretty boy goes down again

    J E T S !!!! -1

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2011 - 2:10 AM ET #25

    ITS a new year and a new era , The pats reign as a major threat is OVER and done. They have lost 3 games  They have lost to the Bills , Giants and the Steelers already. and I believe the jets swept them last year

    JETS  -1

    down goes Brady

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    ITS a new year and a new era , The pats reign as a major threat is OVER and done. They have lost 3 games  They have lost to the Bills , Giants and the Steelers already. and I believe the jets swept them last year

    JETS  -1

    down goes Brady

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