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    New England at New York (10/20/2013)

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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2013 - 2:09 AM ET #1

    Away:  New England [3-3 ATS]
    Home:  N.Y. Jets [4-2 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: MetLife Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    09/12/13 - NYJ 10 vs. NE 13

    Team Leaders:

    New England:
    Passing: Tom Brady (1480)
    Rushing: Stevan Ridley (270)
    Receiving: Julian Edelman (411)

    N.Y. Jets:
    Passing: Geno Smith (1490)
    Rushing: Bilal Powell (360)
    Receiving: Stephen Hill (300)

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    Away:  New England [3-3 ATS]
    Home:  N.Y. Jets [4-2 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: MetLife Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    09/12/13 - NYJ 10 vs. NE 13

    Team Leaders:

    New England:
    Passing: Tom Brady (1480)
    Rushing: Stevan Ridley (270)
    Receiving: Julian Edelman (411)

    N.Y. Jets:
    Passing: Geno Smith (1490)
    Rushing: Bilal Powell (360)
    Receiving: Stephen Hill (300)

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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2013 - 1:08 PM ET #2

    New England (-4) will handle their business here...JETS are a joke  ( ok Defense ) and Geno Smith will soon be a Marc Sanchez QB ( A BUST!! ). Pats will get to Geno & AGAIN turnovers will be his demise!

    Patriots (-4...& over) 34-17  
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    New England (-4) will handle their business here...JETS are a joke  ( ok Defense ) and Geno Smith will soon be a Marc Sanchez QB ( A BUST!! ). Pats will get to Geno & AGAIN turnovers will be his demise!

    Patriots (-4...& over) 34-17  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2013 - 2:10 PM ET #3

    They only beat them by 3 in NE what makes you think they will win by 17 here? I don't see any logic behind this. Jets will handle their own and have a good game here.
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    They only beat them by 3 in NE what makes you think they will win by 17 here? I don't see any logic behind this. Jets will handle their own and have a good game here.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2013 - 6:31 PM ET #4

    This was my NFL "conspiracy" game..... Obviously, it didn't work out the way I thought...

    BUT STILL......

    Gimme the J-E-T-S at home and the 4 points, don't know why, gut feeling.......

    Let "The Massholes" hating begin!!!!!!!!!!

    Good Luck All!!!!!!!!!!!

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    This was my NFL "conspiracy" game..... Obviously, it didn't work out the way I thought...

    BUT STILL......

    Gimme the J-E-T-S at home and the 4 points, don't know why, gut feeling.......

    Let "The Massholes" hating begin!!!!!!!!!!

    Good Luck All!!!!!!!!!!!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2013 - 10:58 PM ET #5

    I watched that last game in NE and if it wasn't raining cats and dogs, the Pats would have opened the Jets up like a can of tuna. I will give the Jets props for their "D", but if the winless Steelers can come into your house and thump you, the Patriots will wreak havoc on "little Geno". Don't overthink this matchup guys, NE easily covers here.
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    I watched that last game in NE and if it wasn't raining cats and dogs, the Pats would have opened the Jets up like a can of tuna. I will give the Jets props for their "D", but if the winless Steelers can come into your house and thump you, the Patriots will wreak havoc on "little Geno". Don't overthink this matchup guys, NE easily covers here.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2013 - 11:59 PM ET #6

    Az49redog has a point. I did see that Thursday night game and it started raining heavily in the 2nd quarter of that game, and there were 4 or 5 plays where the balls hit the Patriots receivers and slipped off their hands. I'm taking nothing away from the Jets defense, but if it wasn't raining I am sure the Patriots would have placed another TD and FG on that game or perhaps even moreso.

    Jets defense will take care of their business in this game. Geno Smith will have a decent game, but is lacking quality receivers for this matchup, which showed in the Pittsburgh game.

    Tom Brady with the crowd (most of them went home early and was in the parking lot at that time) in NE not behind him on the final drive against the Saints, drove down on the final drive and had that magical touch of past NE days to come from behind and win against a tough and Super Bowl contending team in the Saints.

    The line is teetering between 4 and 5 for the Patriots. The play here is most likely, if you like the Jets, and have them at +5, then parlay them with another game you like and buy the parlay two points to make the Jets +7 -150/-160 on that parlay.

    If you have the Patriots, and the line in your book is -4, then just buy the one point and take them at -3 -130 or -2.5 -140. Take them while it's early. I have a feeling the line will move to 5.5 on Sunday and even by game time.

    Just my opinion folks.
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    Az49redog has a point. I did see that Thursday night game and it started raining heavily in the 2nd quarter of that game, and there were 4 or 5 plays where the balls hit the Patriots receivers and slipped off their hands. I'm taking nothing away from the Jets defense, but if it wasn't raining I am sure the Patriots would have placed another TD and FG on that game or perhaps even moreso.

    Jets defense will take care of their business in this game. Geno Smith will have a decent game, but is lacking quality receivers for this matchup, which showed in the Pittsburgh game.

    Tom Brady with the crowd (most of them went home early and was in the parking lot at that time) in NE not behind him on the final drive against the Saints, drove down on the final drive and had that magical touch of past NE days to come from behind and win against a tough and Super Bowl contending team in the Saints.

    The line is teetering between 4 and 5 for the Patriots. The play here is most likely, if you like the Jets, and have them at +5, then parlay them with another game you like and buy the parlay two points to make the Jets +7 -150/-160 on that parlay.

    If you have the Patriots, and the line in your book is -4, then just buy the one point and take them at -3 -130 or -2.5 -140. Take them while it's early. I have a feeling the line will move to 5.5 on Sunday and even by game time.

    Just my opinion folks.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 1:06 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeMahirap:

    Az49redog has a point. I did see that Thursday night game and it started raining heavily in the 2nd quarter of that game, and there were 4 or 5 plays where the balls hit the Patriots receivers and slipped off their hands. I'm taking nothing away from the Jets defense, but if it wasn't raining I am sure the Patriots would have placed another TD and FG on that game or perhaps even moreso.

    Jets defense will take care of their business in this game. Geno Smith will have a decent game, but is lacking quality receivers for this matchup, which showed in the Pittsburgh game.

    Tom Brady with the crowd (most of them went home early and was in the parking lot at that time) in NE not behind him on the final drive against the Saints, drove down on the final drive and had that magical touch of past NE days to come from behind and win against a tough and Super Bowl contending team in the Saints.

    The line is teetering between 4 and 5 for the Patriots. The play here is most likely, if you like the Jets, and have them at +5, then parlay them with another game you like and buy the parlay two points to make the Jets +7 -150/-160 on that parlay.

    If you have the Patriots, and the line in your book is -4, then just buy the one point and take them at -3 -130 or -2.5 -140. Take them while it's early. I have a feeling the line will move to 5.5 on Sunday and even by game time.

    Just my opinion folks.

    OK, Thanks for the info guys. I didn't watch the game, I just looked at the final result, so this info helps. It will make me think twice before betting the Jets here. I also though, wouldn't recommend a bet on the Patriots just for the simple fact that most of the public is on them. 

    This is a good game to stay away from, if you want to be safe. The pats looked terrible on the road in Cincinnati, I did watch that game.  And The pats still are missing some key players. Jets also seem to bounce back after having a crappy game, so this leave me to scratch my head on this one. Better just leave it off the ticket altogether. I hate betting against 4 pt home dogs besides, because they usually find a way to cover..
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeMahirap:

    Az49redog has a point. I did see that Thursday night game and it started raining heavily in the 2nd quarter of that game, and there were 4 or 5 plays where the balls hit the Patriots receivers and slipped off their hands. I'm taking nothing away from the Jets defense, but if it wasn't raining I am sure the Patriots would have placed another TD and FG on that game or perhaps even moreso.

    Jets defense will take care of their business in this game. Geno Smith will have a decent game, but is lacking quality receivers for this matchup, which showed in the Pittsburgh game.

    Tom Brady with the crowd (most of them went home early and was in the parking lot at that time) in NE not behind him on the final drive against the Saints, drove down on the final drive and had that magical touch of past NE days to come from behind and win against a tough and Super Bowl contending team in the Saints.

    The line is teetering between 4 and 5 for the Patriots. The play here is most likely, if you like the Jets, and have them at +5, then parlay them with another game you like and buy the parlay two points to make the Jets +7 -150/-160 on that parlay.

    If you have the Patriots, and the line in your book is -4, then just buy the one point and take them at -3 -130 or -2.5 -140. Take them while it's early. I have a feeling the line will move to 5.5 on Sunday and even by game time.

    Just my opinion folks.

    OK, Thanks for the info guys. I didn't watch the game, I just looked at the final result, so this info helps. It will make me think twice before betting the Jets here. I also though, wouldn't recommend a bet on the Patriots just for the simple fact that most of the public is on them. 

    This is a good game to stay away from, if you want to be safe. The pats looked terrible on the road in Cincinnati, I did watch that game.  And The pats still are missing some key players. Jets also seem to bounce back after having a crappy game, so this leave me to scratch my head on this one. Better just leave it off the ticket altogether. I hate betting against 4 pt home dogs besides, because they usually find a way to cover..
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 1:24 AM ET #8

    Jets are getting Cromartie back for this one, right? I'm pretty sure he wasn't playing against the Steelers and he is one of the Jets key players. Am I correct with this? I may still pull the trigger with the Jets if I find out some additional information here. Not saying they win the game, but I think they will at least cover.

    My logic for NE here is that they lost to Cincinnati, then they SHOULD or COULD have easily lost to the Saints, so losing here would be almost like Tom Brady losing 3 in a row...and that simply doesn't happen.  So, I do like NE ML here but not sure about the spread yet.
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    Jets are getting Cromartie back for this one, right? I'm pretty sure he wasn't playing against the Steelers and he is one of the Jets key players. Am I correct with this? I may still pull the trigger with the Jets if I find out some additional information here. Not saying they win the game, but I think they will at least cover.

    My logic for NE here is that they lost to Cincinnati, then they SHOULD or COULD have easily lost to the Saints, so losing here would be almost like Tom Brady losing 3 in a row...and that simply doesn't happen.  So, I do like NE ML here but not sure about the spread yet.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 2:06 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by mgmprofits:

    Jets are getting Cromartie back for this one, right? I'm pretty sure he wasn't playing against the Steelers and he is one of the Jets key players. Am I correct with this? I may still pull the trigger with the Jets if I find out some additional information here. Not saying they win the game, but I think they will at least cover.

    My logic for NE here is that they lost to Cincinnati, then they SHOULD or COULD have easily lost to the Saints, so losing here would be almost like Tom Brady losing 3 in a row...and that simply doesn't happen.  So, I do like NE ML here but not sure about the spread yet.

    Cro-Mar was in actually...

    I see The Brady Bunch finding  a way to win AGAIN... even without Amendola now...... Coach and Tom's foootball IQ is just too high to lose to a Jets squad that beat Falcons away then lose at home to the fahkin'  Pitts!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgmprofits:

    Jets are getting Cromartie back for this one, right? I'm pretty sure he wasn't playing against the Steelers and he is one of the Jets key players. Am I correct with this? I may still pull the trigger with the Jets if I find out some additional information here. Not saying they win the game, but I think they will at least cover.

    My logic for NE here is that they lost to Cincinnati, then they SHOULD or COULD have easily lost to the Saints, so losing here would be almost like Tom Brady losing 3 in a row...and that simply doesn't happen.  So, I do like NE ML here but not sure about the spread yet.

    Cro-Mar was in actually...

    I see The Brady Bunch finding  a way to win AGAIN... even without Amendola now...... Coach and Tom's foootball IQ is just too high to lose to a Jets squad that beat Falcons away then lose at home to the fahkin'  Pitts!!!!!!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 1:15 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Whalewatcher:

    Cro-Mar was in actually...

    I see The Brady Bunch finding  a way to win AGAIN... even without Amendola now...... Coach and Tom's foootball IQ is just too high to lose to a Jets squad that beat Falcons away then lose at home to the fahkin'  Pitts!!!!!!



    agreed BUT mayo and wilfork out for the season is huge, in addition, Talib was not in practice yesterday. These divisional rivalries are fierce. Agree that the jets are questionable and the pats should win straight up but with their defense issues Jets will run it more and it'll go under.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whalewatcher:

    Cro-Mar was in actually...

    I see The Brady Bunch finding  a way to win AGAIN... even without Amendola now...... Coach and Tom's foootball IQ is just too high to lose to a Jets squad that beat Falcons away then lose at home to the fahkin'  Pitts!!!!!!



    agreed BUT mayo and wilfork out for the season is huge, in addition, Talib was not in practice yesterday. These divisional rivalries are fierce. Agree that the jets are questionable and the pats should win straight up but with their defense issues Jets will run it more and it'll go under.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 1:15 PM ET #11

    Pats could only win by 3 in New England why should they win by 5 in New York. Majority of the money is coming in on pats time to go jets and possible upset win for the jets as well
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    Pats could only win by 3 in New England why should they win by 5 in New York. Majority of the money is coming in on pats time to go jets and possible upset win for the jets as well
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 5:38 PM ET #12

     Usually this game would be a "no brainer" but I feel the Pats are in for a letdown after a tough game with the Saints.

    N Y  JETS     +   3.5

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     Usually this game would be a "no brainer" but I feel the Pats are in for a letdown after a tough game with the Saints.

    N Y  JETS     +   3.5

     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 8:24 PM ET #13

    New York - 19                                             New England - 17

    Jets +3.5                                      under 43.5

    Pats barely beat the Jets in game 2 at home. I don't see a whole lot of improvement in this Pats team since then. Jets capable of pulling off the upset win at home. Take the 3.5

    JETS,JETS,JETS - Under

     

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    New York - 19                                             New England - 17

    Jets +3.5                                      under 43.5

    Pats barely beat the Jets in game 2 at home. I don't see a whole lot of improvement in this Pats team since then. Jets capable of pulling off the upset win at home. Take the 3.5

    JETS,JETS,JETS - Under

     

     
    CRNKN
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2013 - 12:05 AM ET #14

    jets got a new player back from injury like jets for upset
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    jets got a new player back from injury like jets for upset
     
    stevopa
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2013 - 1:01 AM ET #15

    7 of the last 8 games between these two have gone over with the one game being early this season, in poor weather, and a green Pats receiving core dropping balls.  The loss of Talib, Wilfork, and Mayo is going to leave holes in the Pats Defense.  I see points a plenty in this game
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    7 of the last 8 games between these two have gone over with the one game being early this season, in poor weather, and a green Pats receiving core dropping balls.  The loss of Talib, Wilfork, and Mayo is going to leave holes in the Pats Defense.  I see points a plenty in this game
     
    ASKE
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2013 - 2:28 AM ET #16

    What a chess match here. We know who usually wins these chess matches. Was really impress on how they stopped Saint's TE. 

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    What a chess match here. We know who usually wins these chess matches. Was really impress on how they stopped Saint's TE. 

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    AceMackenzie
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2013 - 9:34 AM ET #17

    Gronk comes back , easy win for NE too many proficient weapons in NE

    NE -3 is a gift (buy down the 1/2 point)

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    Gronk comes back , easy win for NE too many proficient weapons in NE

    NE -3 is a gift (buy down the 1/2 point)

     
    vue21849
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2013 - 4:25 PM ET #18

    OVER 44

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    OVER 44

     
    mak104
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2013 - 9:05 PM ET #19

    Line is 3 for me.I don't see Belechek losing 3 in a row. I think Gronk make the difference.NE -3.
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    Line is 3 for me.I don't see Belechek losing 3 in a row. I think Gronk make the difference.NE -3.
     
    CRNKN
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2013 - 11:59 PM ET #20

    i take back my comment NE -3 1/2 got some intel that Big person Bradys back lol
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    i take back my comment NE -3 1/2 got some intel that Big person Bradys back lol
     
    AceMackenzie
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2013 - 1:33 AM ET #21

    Two strong Defenses here - Under 44 as well
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    Two strong Defenses here - Under 44 as well
     
    MasterNBA
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2013 - 2:03 AM ET #22

    Jets +  Vegas = 
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    Jets +  Vegas = 
     
    Whalewatcher
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2013 - 2:59 AM ET #23

    IF Gronk is back it's not a wash by any means with players returning for Jets and NE losing Mayo and Wilfork and Amendola and Talib this week,(gotdamn!) but (and it's a big but like KIM. K big, lol) he will bring a lot of much needed morale, energy, motivation this Sunday.....

    Having said that and read that however...........I might just leave this one  alone.......LMAO!!!!! 

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    IF Gronk is back it's not a wash by any means with players returning for Jets and NE losing Mayo and Wilfork and Amendola and Talib this week,(gotdamn!) but (and it's a big but like KIM. K big, lol) he will bring a lot of much needed morale, energy, motivation this Sunday.....

    Having said that and read that however...........I might just leave this one  alone.......LMAO!!!!! 

     
    WHOjulsCARDINAL
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2013 - 8:38 AM ET #24

    is it me or is this line too good to be true
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    is it me or is this line too good to be true
     
     
    edogg55
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2013 - 9:50 AM ET #25

    Gino is trash pats all the way to that bank  ...same idiots said Detroit was going to beat Red Sox 
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    Gino is trash pats all the way to that bank  ...same idiots said Detroit was going to beat Red Sox 
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