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    New England at Jacksonville (12/23/2012)

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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2012 - 1:05 AM ET #1

    Away:  New England [8-6 ATS]
    Home:  Jacksonville [6-8 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: EverBank Field

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    New England:
    Passing: Tom Brady (4276)
    Rushing: Stevan Ridley (1105)
    Receiving: Wes Welker (1172)

    Jacksonville:
    Passing: Blaine Gabbert (1662)
    Rushing: Maurice Jones-Drew (414)
    Receiving: Cecil Shorts (925)

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    Away:  New England [8-6 ATS]
    Home:  Jacksonville [6-8 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: EverBank Field

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    New England:
    Passing: Tom Brady (4276)
    Rushing: Stevan Ridley (1105)
    Receiving: Wes Welker (1172)

    Jacksonville:
    Passing: Blaine Gabbert (1662)
    Rushing: Maurice Jones-Drew (414)
    Receiving: Cecil Shorts (925)

    More:
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    TheQuadYeah
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2012 - 6:11 PM ET #2

    Belichick in a "revenge" game. You could put in the Fourth String Pats whatever and I'm still seeing a 21 point game..............

    Pats Minus Whatever It Is By Gametime............

    Done.....................

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    Belichick in a "revenge" game. You could put in the Fourth String Pats whatever and I'm still seeing a 21 point game..............

    Pats Minus Whatever It Is By Gametime............

    Done.....................

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2012 - 9:03 PM ET #3

    as crazy as this may sound,I donot believe the Pats will cover

    this spread.

    I think they will go into Jacksonville,and play down to their level.

    The Pats have the division wrapped up,and look like they will be the

    number 3 seed,so they are just interested in just getting the win,and

    keeping everyone healthy.

    Taking the Jags +14.5

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    as crazy as this may sound,I donot believe the Pats will cover

    this spread.

    I think they will go into Jacksonville,and play down to their level.

    The Pats have the division wrapped up,and look like they will be the

    number 3 seed,so they are just interested in just getting the win,and

    keeping everyone healthy.

    Taking the Jags +14.5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2012 - 6:25 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by fan1ranger:

    as crazy as this may sound,I donot believe the Pats will cover

    this spread.

    I think they will go into Jacksonville,and play down to their level.

    The Pats have the division wrapped up,and look like they will be the

    number 3 seed,so they are just interested in just getting the win,and

    keeping everyone healthy.

    Taking the Jags +14.5

    Belichick isn't the kind of guy to let his foot off the gas, especially after coming off a home loss, and a butt whooping one, too. I agree that the Patriots take it out on the Jags in a big way.

    Patriots -14
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    Quote Originally Posted by fan1ranger:

    as crazy as this may sound,I donot believe the Pats will cover

    this spread.

    I think they will go into Jacksonville,and play down to their level.

    The Pats have the division wrapped up,and look like they will be the

    number 3 seed,so they are just interested in just getting the win,and

    keeping everyone healthy.

    Taking the Jags +14.5

    Belichick isn't the kind of guy to let his foot off the gas, especially after coming off a home loss, and a butt whooping one, too. I agree that the Patriots take it out on the Jags in a big way.

    Patriots -14
     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2012 - 12:43 PM ET #5

    Ladies and gentelmen Tom Brady
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    Ladies and gentelmen Tom Brady
     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2012 - 4:24 PM ET #6

    We'll be changing channels in the first quarter....this is going to be ugly for Jac.
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    We'll be changing channels in the first quarter....this is going to be ugly for Jac.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2012 - 5:26 PM ET #7

    *yawn* NE +14
    Gotta go pee!
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    *yawn* NE +14
     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2012 - 10:15 PM ET #8

    NEW ENGLAND -  14.5

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    NEW ENGLAND -  14.5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2012 - 5:53 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by fan1ranger:

    as crazy as this may sound,I donot believe the Pats will cover

    this spread.

    I think they will go into Jacksonville,and play down to their level.

    The Pats have the division wrapped up,and look like they will be the

    number 3 seed,so they are just interested in just getting the win,and

    keeping everyone healthy.

    Taking the Jags +14.5

    I am going to sprinkle the Jacksonville ML in this one as well as take the points. A home double diget dog. Where do I sign up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fan1ranger:

    as crazy as this may sound,I donot believe the Pats will cover

    this spread.

    I think they will go into Jacksonville,and play down to their level.

    The Pats have the division wrapped up,and look like they will be the

    number 3 seed,so they are just interested in just getting the win,and

    keeping everyone healthy.

    Taking the Jags +14.5

    I am going to sprinkle the Jacksonville ML in this one as well as take the points. A home double diget dog. Where do I sign up?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2012 - 8:40 AM ET #10

    The pats plus 14.5?  They just lost at home, big FU game for Brady and co

    Pats 42

    Jags 10

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    The pats plus 14.5?  They just lost at home, big FU game for Brady and co

    Pats 42

    Jags 10

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2012 - 12:00 PM ET #11

    How can all these dopes come up with Pats + points?

     

    A) they are never dogs

    B) how can you misread that?

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    How can all these dopes come up with Pats + points?

     

    A) they are never dogs

    B) how can you misread that?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2012 - 2:15 PM ET #12

    DD HOME DOG ... AN AUTOMATIC PLAY FOR ME, DOESNT MATTER ITS THE AWFUL JAX JAGS ...

    JAGS +14.5 ...
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    DD HOME DOG ... AN AUTOMATIC PLAY FOR ME, DOESNT MATTER ITS THE AWFUL JAX JAGS ...

    JAGS +14.5 ...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2012 - 4:39 PM ET #13

    WOW I see allot of emotion behind these picks..not allot of thought being put into it.

    Yes NE got beat down at home in front of the world to see, and Vegas knows you saw it AND they know that many feel JAC simply sucks. They know many will immediately jump on NE based on emotion.

    I told a buddy of mine that both NE & GB generally are favorites by touchdown or more in most cases. Neither does well when favored by double digits. NE is 12-16, 13-19 if you include the post season since 2007 when favored by double digits.

    The fact that NE is double digit favored is more of an indictment on how bad JAC has been. They're 1-6 at home and have giving up an average of 26 points. If you simply focus on the games where they've played against potential post season, that jumps to 32 points.

    With all this data, it's clear to me that you MUST take NE .
    All but 4 of the games I mentioned were at home. They're 3-1 on the road when favored by double digits.

    YES JAC is that bad. There was talk about MJD playing but he's officially been ruled out.
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    WOW I see allot of emotion behind these picks..not allot of thought being put into it.

    Yes NE got beat down at home in front of the world to see, and Vegas knows you saw it AND they know that many feel JAC simply sucks. They know many will immediately jump on NE based on emotion.

    I told a buddy of mine that both NE & GB generally are favorites by touchdown or more in most cases. Neither does well when favored by double digits. NE is 12-16, 13-19 if you include the post season since 2007 when favored by double digits.

    The fact that NE is double digit favored is more of an indictment on how bad JAC has been. They're 1-6 at home and have giving up an average of 26 points. If you simply focus on the games where they've played against potential post season, that jumps to 32 points.

    With all this data, it's clear to me that you MUST take NE .
    All but 4 of the games I mentioned were at home. They're 3-1 on the road when favored by double digits.

    YES JAC is that bad. There was talk about MJD playing but he's officially been ruled out.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2012 - 2:27 AM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by bIGbLuephantom:

    WOW I see allot of emotion behind these picks..not allot of thought being put into it.

    Yes NE got beat down at home in front of the world to see, and Vegas knows you saw it AND they know that many feel JAC simply sucks. They know many will immediately jump on NE based on emotion.

    I told a buddy of mine that both NE & GB generally are favorites by touchdown or more in most cases. Neither does well when favored by double digits. NE is 12-16, 13-19 if you include the post season since 2007 when favored by double digits.

    The fact that NE is double digit favored is more of an indictment on how bad JAC has been. They're 1-6 at home and have giving up an average of 26 points. If you simply focus on the games where they've played against potential post season, that jumps to 32 points.

    With all this data, it's clear to me that you MUST take NE .
    All but 4 of the games I mentioned were at home. They're 3-1 on the road when favored by double digits.

    YES JAC is that bad. There was talk about MJD playing but he's officially been ruled out.

     

    They got beat by 7 at home, I dont quite call that a beat down. They may have been getting beat down in the begining, but as soon as they started clicking San Fran couldnt do nothing but hang for the ride. Now the question is, does N.E., go to Jacksonville and play the way they did the second half of the Niners game or do they just decide to just play and get by. No one can say they know what Brady and company will do, cause if anyone knew we would be rich, Im hoping the line will drop a little and then Ill probably jump on them, its a hard decision especially because Im a Pats fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bIGbLuephantom:

    WOW I see allot of emotion behind these picks..not allot of thought being put into it.

    Yes NE got beat down at home in front of the world to see, and Vegas knows you saw it AND they know that many feel JAC simply sucks. They know many will immediately jump on NE based on emotion.

    I told a buddy of mine that both NE & GB generally are favorites by touchdown or more in most cases. Neither does well when favored by double digits. NE is 12-16, 13-19 if you include the post season since 2007 when favored by double digits.

    The fact that NE is double digit favored is more of an indictment on how bad JAC has been. They're 1-6 at home and have giving up an average of 26 points. If you simply focus on the games where they've played against potential post season, that jumps to 32 points.

    With all this data, it's clear to me that you MUST take NE .
    All but 4 of the games I mentioned were at home. They're 3-1 on the road when favored by double digits.

    YES JAC is that bad. There was talk about MJD playing but he's officially been ruled out.

     

    They got beat by 7 at home, I dont quite call that a beat down. They may have been getting beat down in the begining, but as soon as they started clicking San Fran couldnt do nothing but hang for the ride. Now the question is, does N.E., go to Jacksonville and play the way they did the second half of the Niners game or do they just decide to just play and get by. No one can say they know what Brady and company will do, cause if anyone knew we would be rich, Im hoping the line will drop a little and then Ill probably jump on them, its a hard decision especially because Im a Pats fan.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2012 - 4:37 PM ET #15

    In the last 5 years home dogs of 10.5 or more are 25-13. That's over 60%!! I'll take it 14.5
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    In the last 5 years home dogs of 10.5 or more are 25-13. That's over 60%!! I'll take it 14.5
     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2012 - 4:52 PM ET #16

    I like betting trends mip  The 14.5 looks good to me.

    New England - 27                                        Jacksonville - 14

    Jaguars +14.5                             under 50.5

    Jags are going to have to play one of their best games of the season just to cover. It could happen. I usually bet against the Pats as a road fav against a team coming off a su & ats loss.

    I'll lose my money on the team that scored 3 pts & 10 pts their last 2 games.

    Jaguars - Under

     

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    I like betting trends mip  The 14.5 looks good to me.

    New England - 27                                        Jacksonville - 14

    Jaguars +14.5                             under 50.5

    Jags are going to have to play one of their best games of the season just to cover. It could happen. I usually bet against the Pats as a road fav against a team coming off a su & ats loss.

    I'll lose my money on the team that scored 3 pts & 10 pts their last 2 games.

    Jaguars - Under

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2012 - 9:34 AM ET #17

    Jacksonville has been a TERRIBLE home team this year, and if there's one thing New England does well is bounce back after a loss in a big way. I HATE betting on double digit favorites (especially when it's the road team), but I can't see Jacksonville even covering this spread by halftime. I have a feeling the three dozen fans in attendance will be leaving by halftime.

    Pats -14

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    Jacksonville has been a TERRIBLE home team this year, and if there's one thing New England does well is bounce back after a loss in a big way. I HATE betting on double digit favorites (especially when it's the road team), but I can't see Jacksonville even covering this spread by halftime. I have a feeling the three dozen fans in attendance will be leaving by halftime.

    Pats -14

     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2012 - 1:20 PM ET #18

    Hey Drewmon78;

    You're clearly a PATS fan, because you saw my second sentence referencing a BEAT DOWN and decided to cut & paste my post and get all defensive about it:

    "They got beat by 7 at home, I dont quite call that a beat down."

    Just relax and go back and ACTUALLY READ the ENTIRE POST. As a PAT fan, you don't appear too confident in your team against the lowly JAGUARS.

    don't be a fair weather fan, take ya PATS and enjoy the holidays, because if your don't you'll be kicking yourself in the rear and that infused Egg Nog wont taste as good 
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    Hey Drewmon78;

    You're clearly a PATS fan, because you saw my second sentence referencing a BEAT DOWN and decided to cut & paste my post and get all defensive about it:

    "They got beat by 7 at home, I dont quite call that a beat down."

    Just relax and go back and ACTUALLY READ the ENTIRE POST. As a PAT fan, you don't appear too confident in your team against the lowly JAGUARS.

    don't be a fair weather fan, take ya PATS and enjoy the holidays, because if your don't you'll be kicking yourself in the rear and that infused Egg Nog wont taste as good 
     
    ICEman83
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2012 - 12:05 AM ET #19

    pats TT over,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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    pats TT over,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
     
    Junoblu
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2012 - 3:42 AM ET #20

    Under....
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    Under....
     
    IFadeMyselfSome
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2012 - 4:13 AM ET #21

    This is no more than a Bye week for The Pats.

    Sure, it looks like a football game is being played, but there realy isn't.

    The Patriots, should be up by 21-28 points by half.

    Patriots 41 Jags 9

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    This is no more than a Bye week for The Pats.

    Sure, it looks like a football game is being played, but there realy isn't.

    The Patriots, should be up by 21-28 points by half.

    Patriots 41 Jags 9

     
    Drewmon78
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2012 - 4:46 AM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by bIGbLuephantom:

    Hey Drewmon78;

    You're clearly a PATS fan, because you saw my second sentence referencing a BEAT DOWN and decided to cut & paste my post and get all defensive about it:

    "They got beat by 7 at home, I dont quite call that a beat down."

    Just relax and go back and ACTUALLY READ the ENTIRE POST. As a PAT fan, you don't appear too confident in your team against the lowly JAGUARS.

    don't be a fair weather fan, take ya PATS and enjoy the holidays, because if your don't you'll be kicking yourself in the rear and that infused Egg Nog wont taste as good 

    Aloha bigbluephantom


    Yes Iam a Pats fan and yes I did read your whole post. I wasn't trying o be defensive about your post, just simply saying that, maybe in the beginning we were get hammered but losing by 7 doesn't qualify as a beat down. As for having confidence in my team, I have a lot of confidence they will win, but a wise man once said bet smart not with your heart. If I didn't have to cover a point spread in order to win money I would be rich, however that's not the case. Being that its so late in the season it's hard to tell what teams will still be playing all out and what teams are content with where they stand in the playoff race. On paper Brady and Co. should beat Jax by 3 TD's, and I'm hoping that happens in real life. Didn't mean to sound defensive, glad we on the same page, and happy holidays to you and yours. Alohas
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    Quote Originally Posted by bIGbLuephantom:

    Hey Drewmon78;

    You're clearly a PATS fan, because you saw my second sentence referencing a BEAT DOWN and decided to cut & paste my post and get all defensive about it:

    "They got beat by 7 at home, I dont quite call that a beat down."

    Just relax and go back and ACTUALLY READ the ENTIRE POST. As a PAT fan, you don't appear too confident in your team against the lowly JAGUARS.

    don't be a fair weather fan, take ya PATS and enjoy the holidays, because if your don't you'll be kicking yourself in the rear and that infused Egg Nog wont taste as good 

    Aloha bigbluephantom


    Yes Iam a Pats fan and yes I did read your whole post. I wasn't trying o be defensive about your post, just simply saying that, maybe in the beginning we were get hammered but losing by 7 doesn't qualify as a beat down. As for having confidence in my team, I have a lot of confidence they will win, but a wise man once said bet smart not with your heart. If I didn't have to cover a point spread in order to win money I would be rich, however that's not the case. Being that its so late in the season it's hard to tell what teams will still be playing all out and what teams are content with where they stand in the playoff race. On paper Brady and Co. should beat Jax by 3 TD's, and I'm hoping that happens in real life. Didn't mean to sound defensive, glad we on the same page, and happy holidays to you and yours. Alohas
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2012 - 7:21 AM ET #23

    Sometimes the trends are misleading ,stats,numbers all that can get thrown out the JAGS suck big time no matter where they play they suck final score 44-10 NE +34 lol plus shouldn't the JAGS be thinking of a first round pick 
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    Sometimes the trends are misleading ,stats,numbers all that can get thrown out the JAGS suck big time no matter where they play they suck final score 44-10 NE +34 lol plus shouldn't the JAGS be thinking of a first round pick 
     
    TheQuadYeah
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2012 - 10:44 AM ET #24

    WOW!! 2 solid years of extremely bad decisions by a sketchy owner, and now:

    TEBOW'S COMING?!?!?!?

    https://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/virtual_certainty_tim_tebow_will_xKxZ3yu5aR4XWV536u9SVM

    REALLY, JACKSONVILLE??? THAT'S THE MOVE???

    FRIGGIN' TEBOW???

    Man, this is a non-stop bullet train move to L.A. if I've ever seen one..... 

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    WOW!! 2 solid years of extremely bad decisions by a sketchy owner, and now:

    TEBOW'S COMING?!?!?!?

    https://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/virtual_certainty_tim_tebow_will_xKxZ3yu5aR4XWV536u9SVM

    REALLY, JACKSONVILLE??? THAT'S THE MOVE???

    FRIGGIN' TEBOW???

    Man, this is a non-stop bullet train move to L.A. if I've ever seen one..... 

     
     
    BarTool
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2012 - 11:39 AM ET #25

    Good for TEBOW man! I hope he does well down there. Give the guy a shot!!! The last time he was given a starting role he won all the way to the playoff I think?
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    Good for TEBOW man! I hope he does well down there. Give the guy a shot!!! The last time he was given a starting role he won all the way to the playoff I think?
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