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    New England at Chicago (12/12/2010)

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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2010 - 3:48 AM ET #1

    Away:  New England [7-4-1 ATS]
    Home:  Chicago [6-5-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 4:15 PM
    Stadium: Soldier Field

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    New England:
    Passing: Tom Brady (3029)
    Rushing: BenJarvus Green-Ellis (699)
    Receiving: Wes Welker (672)

    Chicago:
    Passing: Jay Cutler (2545)
    Rushing: Matt Forte (748)
    Receiving: Johnny Knox (774)

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    Away:  New England [7-4-1 ATS]
    Home:  Chicago [6-5-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 4:15 PM
    Stadium: Soldier Field

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    New England:
    Passing: Tom Brady (3029)
    Rushing: BenJarvus Green-Ellis (699)
    Receiving: Wes Welker (672)

    Chicago:
    Passing: Jay Cutler (2545)
    Rushing: Matt Forte (748)
    Receiving: Johnny Knox (774)

    More:
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2010 - 10:25 AM ET #2

    This is where the Bears bus starts losing riders.  NE, Minny, the Jets and GB in a revenge game that could wrap up the division for the Pack!!!  Yeah, no more Carolinas, Seattles, Detroits, Miamis or Buffalos fellas........the next month is big boy football and Jay Cutler won't "pass" the test against these upcoming defenses.  Whatever the line.....I'll take Brady of Cutler and Bill of Luvy all day long!!!!!!!!!  I'll cover 7-10 before I have to think about it.
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    This is where the Bears bus starts losing riders.  NE, Minny, the Jets and GB in a revenge game that could wrap up the division for the Pack!!!  Yeah, no more Carolinas, Seattles, Detroits, Miamis or Buffalos fellas........the next month is big boy football and Jay Cutler won't "pass" the test against these upcoming defenses.  Whatever the line.....I'll take Brady of Cutler and Bill of Luvy all day long!!!!!!!!!  I'll cover 7-10 before I have to think about it.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2010 - 10:32 AM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by Irisheyez:

    !  Yeah, no more Carolinas, Seattles, Detroits, Miamis or Buffalos fellas

    Whyd you leave off the Eagles, @Dolphins and Packers wins? They've beaten good teams they just get NO love because they dont win big... like the Patriots use to do pre Moss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irisheyez:

    !  Yeah, no more Carolinas, Seattles, Detroits, Miamis or Buffalos fellas

    Whyd you leave off the Eagles, @Dolphins and Packers wins? They've beaten good teams they just get NO love because they dont win big... like the Patriots use to do pre Moss.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2010 - 10:33 AM ET #4

    Call me a crazy, call me a homer or whatever but this line looks like a Bears line to me. Bears ML
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    Call me a crazy, call me a homer or whatever but this line looks like a Bears line to me. Bears ML
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2010 - 10:34 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by Irisheyez:

    This is where the Bears bus starts losing riders.  NE, Minny, the Jets and GB in a revenge game that could wrap up the division for the Pack!!!  Yeah, no more Carolinas, Seattles, Detroits, Miamis or Buffalos fellas........the next month is big boy football and Jay Cutler won't "pass" the test against these upcoming defenses.  Whatever the line.....I'll take Brady of Cutler and Bill of Luvy all day long!!!!!!!!!  I'll cover 7-10 before I have to think about it.

    With ya Irish now they play a real football team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irisheyez:

    This is where the Bears bus starts losing riders.  NE, Minny, the Jets and GB in a revenge game that could wrap up the division for the Pack!!!  Yeah, no more Carolinas, Seattles, Detroits, Miamis or Buffalos fellas........the next month is big boy football and Jay Cutler won't "pass" the test against these upcoming defenses.  Whatever the line.....I'll take Brady of Cutler and Bill of Luvy all day long!!!!!!!!!  I'll cover 7-10 before I have to think about it.

    With ya Irish now they play a real football team.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2010 - 10:37 AM ET #6

    No number out yet.  Its to bad NE won 45-3 last night i think we might have seen a -3.5 if it had been a close game now  probably going to be anywhere from
    -7.5 to -9.5.  I think i will jump on the early line if its low enough because i think it will go up fast.
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    No number out yet.  Its to bad NE won 45-3 last night i think we might have seen a -3.5 if it had been a close game now  probably going to be anywhere from
    -7.5 to -9.5.  I think i will jump on the early line if its low enough because i think it will go up fast.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2010 - 11:34 AM ET #7

    Two trends if you're leaning towards the Bears:

    Bears are 4-0 ATS vs. a team with a winning record & the Patriots are 0-3-1 ATS in their last 4 games when playing on Sunday following a Monday night game.


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    Two trends if you're leaning towards the Bears:

    Bears are 4-0 ATS vs. a team with a winning record & the Patriots are 0-3-1 ATS in their last 4 games when playing on Sunday following a Monday night game.


     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2010 - 11:56 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by lookingtowin:

    No number out yet.  Its to bad NE won 45-3 last night i think we might have seen a -3.5 if it had been a close game now  probably going to be anywhere from
    -7.5 to -9.5.  I think i will jump on the early line if its low enough because i think it will go up fast.

     

    A 9-3 team getting 9.5 points at home

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    Quote Originally Posted by lookingtowin:

    No number out yet.  Its to bad NE won 45-3 last night i think we might have seen a -3.5 if it had been a close game now  probably going to be anywhere from
    -7.5 to -9.5.  I think i will jump on the early line if its low enough because i think it will go up fast.

     

    A 9-3 team getting 9.5 points at home

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2010 - 12:36 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Flava83:

     

    A 9-3 team getting 9.5 points at home

    I can remember a few years ago 9-3 teams getting 14-18 pts at home against New England.  Not saying this is the same New England team but if its 3 or less and i never ever use this word but i am in REAL LARGE they will destroy Chicago the same way they did the Jets and the books will wish they had made it -9.5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flava83:

     

    A 9-3 team getting 9.5 points at home

    I can remember a few years ago 9-3 teams getting 14-18 pts at home against New England.  Not saying this is the same New England team but if its 3 or less and i never ever use this word but i am in REAL LARGE they will destroy Chicago the same way they did the Jets and the books will wish they had made it -9.5.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2010 - 12:43 PM ET #10

    By the way if anyone is capping this that it is a tough spot for New England coming off a short week or a tough Monday night game for them (i don't even think they worked up a sweat last night) i think you are thinking the wrong way.   Four games left there is no look ahead, or tough spot or whatever other cliche you want to use.  New England will destory the Bears just like they did the Jets last night, they want the division and home field advantage and the only way the get it is keep on winning.  Bears this one is going to hurt.
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    By the way if anyone is capping this that it is a tough spot for New England coming off a short week or a tough Monday night game for them (i don't even think they worked up a sweat last night) i think you are thinking the wrong way.   Four games left there is no look ahead, or tough spot or whatever other cliche you want to use.  New England will destory the Bears just like they did the Jets last night, they want the division and home field advantage and the only way the get it is keep on winning.  Bears this one is going to hurt.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2010 - 11:05 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by lookingtowin:

    No number out yet.  Its to bad NE won 45-3 last night i think we might have seen a -3.5 if it had been a close game now  probably going to be anywhere from
    -7.5 to -9.5.  I think i will jump on the early line if its low enough because i think it will go up fast.

    Wow. All I can say is wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lookingtowin:

    No number out yet.  Its to bad NE won 45-3 last night i think we might have seen a -3.5 if it had been a close game now  probably going to be anywhere from
    -7.5 to -9.5.  I think i will jump on the early line if its low enough because i think it will go up fast.

    Wow. All I can say is wow.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2010 - 11:19 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by lookingtowin:

    I can remember a few years ago 9-3 teams getting 14-18 pts at home against New England. 

    Your memory is horseshit cause it didnt happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by lookingtowin:

    I can remember a few years ago 9-3 teams getting 14-18 pts at home against New England. 

    Your memory is horseshit cause it didnt happen

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2010 - 12:07 AM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by lookingtowin:

    I can remember a few years ago 9-3 teams getting 14-18 pts at home against New England. 

    Wow, this is one of, if not THE, most idiotic statements I've ever read on this board.  There is no such thing as a 18 point favorite in the NFL, unless MAYBE you match the best team, at home, vs the worst team on the road with a bunch of key injuries.  There was absolutely NO WAY any team close to 9-3 was getting 14-18 points at home against ANYBODY, New England or otherwise.  Only a COMPLETE IDIOT would suggest something like this happened MULTIPLE TIMES with the Patriots.  No one on this board can disagree with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lookingtowin:

    I can remember a few years ago 9-3 teams getting 14-18 pts at home against New England. 

    Wow, this is one of, if not THE, most idiotic statements I've ever read on this board.  There is no such thing as a 18 point favorite in the NFL, unless MAYBE you match the best team, at home, vs the worst team on the road with a bunch of key injuries.  There was absolutely NO WAY any team close to 9-3 was getting 14-18 points at home against ANYBODY, New England or otherwise.  Only a COMPLETE IDIOT would suggest something like this happened MULTIPLE TIMES with the Patriots.  No one on this board can disagree with that.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2010 - 12:13 AM ET #14

    I remember NE giving 14 pts to a hometeam 3 yrs ago but pretty sure it wasn't a 9-3 game think it was miami....
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    I remember NE giving 14 pts to a hometeam 3 yrs ago but pretty sure it wasn't a 9-3 game think it was miami....
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2010 - 12:32 AM ET #15

    Here you go...

    No 9-3 teams were 14+ dogs at home. Or on the road for that matter

    NEW ENGLAND (FT)
    (SUR: 18-1 PSR: 10-9 O-U: 12-7)
    S.09   NY Jets           W    -6'  38-14  o41
    S.16*  SD                W    -3'  38-14  o46
    S.23   BUFF.             W    -16' 38-7   o41
    O.01*  Cincinnati        W    -7'  34-13  u53'
    O.07   CLEVE.            W    -16  34-17  o48'
    O.14   Dallas            W    -5'  48-27  o53
    O.21   Miami             W    -16  49-28  o51
    O.28   WASH.             W    -15' 52-7   o47'
    N.04   Indy              L    -5   24-20  u56'
    N.11   Bye
    N.18*  Buffalo           W    -15' 56-10  o46'
    N.25*  PHILA.            L    -24  31-28  o51
    D.03*  Baltimore         L    -19' 27-24  o48
    D.09   PITT.             W    -10' 34-13  u47'
    D.16   NY JETS           L    -21  20-10  u42'
    D.23   MIAMI             L    -22  28-7   u45
    D.29*  NY Giants         L    -13  38-35  o46'
    J.12*  J'VILLE           L    -13' 31-20  o50
    J.20   SAN DIEGO         L    -13' 21-12  u47
    F.03   NY Giants         L    -12' 14-17  u54'
    (Super Bowl XLII at Glendale, Az)
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    Here you go...

    No 9-3 teams were 14+ dogs at home. Or on the road for that matter

    NEW ENGLAND (FT)
    (SUR: 18-1 PSR: 10-9 O-U: 12-7)
    S.09   NY Jets           W    -6'  38-14  o41
    S.16*  SD                W    -3'  38-14  o46
    S.23   BUFF.             W    -16' 38-7   o41
    O.01*  Cincinnati        W    -7'  34-13  u53'
    O.07   CLEVE.            W    -16  34-17  o48'
    O.14   Dallas            W    -5'  48-27  o53
    O.21   Miami             W    -16  49-28  o51
    O.28   WASH.             W    -15' 52-7   o47'
    N.04   Indy              L    -5   24-20  u56'
    N.11   Bye
    N.18*  Buffalo           W    -15' 56-10  o46'
    N.25*  PHILA.            L    -24  31-28  o51
    D.03*  Baltimore         L    -19' 27-24  o48
    D.09   PITT.             W    -10' 34-13  u47'
    D.16   NY JETS           L    -21  20-10  u42'
    D.23   MIAMI             L    -22  28-7   u45
    D.29*  NY Giants         L    -13  38-35  o46'
    J.12*  J'VILLE           L    -13' 31-20  o50
    J.20   SAN DIEGO         L    -13' 21-12  u47
    F.03   NY Giants         L    -12' 14-17  u54'
    (Super Bowl XLII at Glendale, Az)
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2010 - 12:39 AM ET #16

    Sorry that format is messed up.
     
    vs BUF -16
    vs CLE -16
    @MIA -16
    vs WAS -15
    @BUF -15
    vs PHL -24
    @ BAL -19
    vs NYJ -21
    vs MIA -22
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    Sorry that format is messed up.
     
    vs BUF -16
    vs CLE -16
    @MIA -16
    vs WAS -15
    @BUF -15
    vs PHL -24
    @ BAL -19
    vs NYJ -21
    vs MIA -22
     
    lookingtowin
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2010 - 6:44 AM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by daysbtwin:

    Here you go...

    No 9-3 teams were 14+ dogs at home. Or on the road for that matter

    NEW ENGLAND (FT)
    (SUR: 18-1 PSR: 10-9 O-U: 12-7)
    S.09   NY Jets           W    -6'  38-14  o41
    S.16*  SD                W    -3'  38-14  o46
    S.23   BUFF.             W    -16' 38-7   o41
    O.01*  Cincinnati        W    -7'  34-13  u53'
    O.07   CLEVE.            W    -16  34-17  o48'
    O.14   Dallas            W    -5'  48-27  o53
    O.21   Miami             W    -16  49-28  o51
    O.28   WASH.             W    -15' 52-7   o47'
    N.04   Indy              L    -5   24-20  u56'
    N.11   Bye
    N.18*  Buffalo           W    -15' 56-10  o46'
    N.25*  PHILA.            L    -24  31-28  o51
    D.03*  Baltimore         L    -19' 27-24  o48
    D.09   PITT.             W    -10' 34-13  u47'
    D.16   NY JETS           L    -21  20-10  u42'
    D.23   MIAMI             L    -22  28-7   u45
    D.29*  NY Giants         L    -13  38-35  o46'
    J.12*  J'VILLE           L    -13' 31-20  o50
    J.20   SAN DIEGO         L    -13' 21-12  u47
    F.03   NY Giants         L    -12' 14-17  u54'
    (Super Bowl XLII at Glendale, Az)

    Who gives a royal fuck.  This site is getting worse and worse all the time you use to be able to make a post without 50 fucking bashers coming on here.   I don't give a shit -1 or -34 i have placed my bet at -2.5 for $300.00 and i will win that bet.  So take all your hard fucking work of looking up those stats and shove them up your ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daysbtwin:

    Here you go...

    No 9-3 teams were 14+ dogs at home. Or on the road for that matter

    NEW ENGLAND (FT)
    (SUR: 18-1 PSR: 10-9 O-U: 12-7)
    S.09   NY Jets           W    -6'  38-14  o41
    S.16*  SD                W    -3'  38-14  o46
    S.23   BUFF.             W    -16' 38-7   o41
    O.01*  Cincinnati        W    -7'  34-13  u53'
    O.07   CLEVE.            W    -16  34-17  o48'
    O.14   Dallas            W    -5'  48-27  o53
    O.21   Miami             W    -16  49-28  o51
    O.28   WASH.             W    -15' 52-7   o47'
    N.04   Indy              L    -5   24-20  u56'
    N.11   Bye
    N.18*  Buffalo           W    -15' 56-10  o46'
    N.25*  PHILA.            L    -24  31-28  o51
    D.03*  Baltimore         L    -19' 27-24  o48
    D.09   PITT.             W    -10' 34-13  u47'
    D.16   NY JETS           L    -21  20-10  u42'
    D.23   MIAMI             L    -22  28-7   u45
    D.29*  NY Giants         L    -13  38-35  o46'
    J.12*  J'VILLE           L    -13' 31-20  o50
    J.20   SAN DIEGO         L    -13' 21-12  u47
    F.03   NY Giants         L    -12' 14-17  u54'
    (Super Bowl XLII at Glendale, Az)

    Who gives a royal fuck.  This site is getting worse and worse all the time you use to be able to make a post without 50 fucking bashers coming on here.   I don't give a shit -1 or -34 i have placed my bet at -2.5 for $300.00 and i will win that bet.  So take all your hard fucking work of looking up those stats and shove them up your ass.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2010 - 6:49 AM ET #18

    And to all the other bashers out there you can take your bashing and suck this large thing between my legs.  I am more interested on here to here who you wise fucking idiots are betting on as far as sides or totals not to fucking wasting all your breath giving me useless statements because i posted a high number.  I shouldn't get this pissed because you are all probably high schoolers with your lap tops and have never made a bet in your lives.  Fuck ya all.
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    And to all the other bashers out there you can take your bashing and suck this large thing between my legs.  I am more interested on here to here who you wise fucking idiots are betting on as far as sides or totals not to fucking wasting all your breath giving me useless statements because i posted a high number.  I shouldn't get this pissed because you are all probably high schoolers with your lap tops and have never made a bet in your lives.  Fuck ya all.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2010 - 6:51 AM ET #19

    One last thing i made $1750. last week how did you guys make out with your $5.00 bets,
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    One last thing i made $1750. last week how did you guys make out with your $5.00 bets,
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2010 - 12:28 PM ET #20

    If you were big time, youd let it ride on the Pats
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    If you were big time, youd let it ride on the Pats
     
    Bechmann
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2010 - 1:01 PM ET #21

    Wow, lots of emotions on this one. Take the emotion out of it.

    Why can't we all just get along?

    The Pats are obviously favored but my advice here would be to let people pour money on the Patriots and let the line move up to- 4.5 or   -5 and jump on the Bears at home. 

    The Patriots are great (I hate myself for typing these words) but the beatdown of the Jets is not a sign of how the rest of the season will go down. Right now I get 2.5 back if the Bears win outright and if the line goes up to 2.9 I might just put down a medium sized bet. 

    Any matchup analysis?
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    Wow, lots of emotions on this one. Take the emotion out of it.

    Why can't we all just get along?

    The Pats are obviously favored but my advice here would be to let people pour money on the Patriots and let the line move up to- 4.5 or   -5 and jump on the Bears at home. 

    The Patriots are great (I hate myself for typing these words) but the beatdown of the Jets is not a sign of how the rest of the season will go down. Right now I get 2.5 back if the Bears win outright and if the line goes up to 2.9 I might just put down a medium sized bet. 

    Any matchup analysis?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2010 - 2:33 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by lookingtowin:

    By the way if anyone is capping this that it is a tough spot for New England coming off a short week or a tough Monday night game for them (i don't even think they worked up a sweat last night) i think you are thinking the wrong way.   Four games left there is no look ahead, or tough spot or whatever other cliche you want to use.  New England will destory the Bears just like they did the Jets last night, they want the division and home field advantage and the only way the get it is keep on winning.  Bears this one is going to hurt.

    'ENUFF SAID!!

    NEW ENGLAND  - 3  (HUGE!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lookingtowin:

    By the way if anyone is capping this that it is a tough spot for New England coming off a short week or a tough Monday night game for them (i don't even think they worked up a sweat last night) i think you are thinking the wrong way.   Four games left there is no look ahead, or tough spot or whatever other cliche you want to use.  New England will destory the Bears just like they did the Jets last night, they want the division and home field advantage and the only way the get it is keep on winning.  Bears this one is going to hurt.

    'ENUFF SAID!!

    NEW ENGLAND  - 3  (HUGE!)

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2010 - 5:01 PM ET #23

    I will homer it up. Dare you to stop me son!!!!! Pats for the large!!!!

  • Monday Night Magic: Teams coming off a win of 17+ points on MNF are 37-22 ATS the following week.
  • If you’re not large, you’re small - the DOC
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    I will homer it up. Dare you to stop me son!!!!! Pats for the large!!!!

  • Monday Night Magic: Teams coming off a win of 17+ points on MNF are 37-22 ATS the following week.
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2010 - 7:38 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by lookingtowin:

    Who gives a royal fuck.  This site is getting worse and worse all the time you use to be able to make a post without 50 fucking bashers coming on here.   I don't give a shit -1 or -34 i have placed my bet at -2.5 for $300.00 and i will win that bet.  So take all your hard fucking work of looking up those stats and shove them up your ass.

    This site is getting worse because of know-nothings like you. Sorry that I look at facts and dont spout a bunch of bullshit from my noise hole. Its obvious that you have no fucking idea how to set a line. Good luck with your bet

    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by lookingtowin:

    Who gives a royal fuck.  This site is getting worse and worse all the time you use to be able to make a post without 50 fucking bashers coming on here.   I don't give a shit -1 or -34 i have placed my bet at -2.5 for $300.00 and i will win that bet.  So take all your hard fucking work of looking up those stats and shove them up your ass.

    This site is getting worse because of know-nothings like you. Sorry that I look at facts and dont spout a bunch of bullshit from my noise hole. Its obvious that you have no fucking idea how to set a line. Good luck with your bet

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2010 - 9:02 PM ET #25

    hope brady can throw with 6 inches of snow....35 mph winds   and -20 windchills!.....UBDER 41 IS THE PLAY

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    hope brady can throw with 6 inches of snow....35 mph winds   and -20 windchills!.....UBDER 41 IS THE PLAY

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