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    Kansas City at Oakland (10/23/2011)

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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2011 - 2:01 AM ET #1

    Away:  Kansas City [3-2 ATS]
    Home:  Oakland [5-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 4:05 PM
    Stadium: O.co Coliseum

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    Kansas City:
    Passing: Matt Cassel (945)
    Rushing: Dexter McCluster (172)
    Receiving: Dwayne Bowe (420)

    Oakland:
    Passing: Jason Campbell (1170)
    Rushing: Darren McFadden (610)
    Receiving: Darrius Heyward-Bey (345)

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    Away:  Kansas City [3-2 ATS]
    Home:  Oakland [5-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 4:05 PM
    Stadium: O.co Coliseum

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    Kansas City:
    Passing: Matt Cassel (945)
    Rushing: Dexter McCluster (172)
    Receiving: Dwayne Bowe (420)

    Oakland:
    Passing: Jason Campbell (1170)
    Rushing: Darren McFadden (610)
    Receiving: Darrius Heyward-Bey (345)

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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2011 - 10:53 AM ET #2

    Kyle Boller? - UGH!!!!!!! -

    Stick Terelle Pryor in there - he can't possibly be any worse of a choice. Or the punter Shane Lechler - he looked pretty good throwing that touchdown......

    As long as Boller just dumps it out and/or hands it off and doesn't try to do anything stupid - Like, let's say, run with it and fumble - TWICE!!!! Then I'll take the Raidaaahhhs...

    But, that 3.5 still scares me - might try to get it under a field goal so when the game is tied at 10-10 and Janikowski has to kick a 78 yard field goal to win it, I can breathe a little easier.........

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    Kyle Boller? - UGH!!!!!!! -

    Stick Terelle Pryor in there - he can't possibly be any worse of a choice. Or the punter Shane Lechler - he looked pretty good throwing that touchdown......

    As long as Boller just dumps it out and/or hands it off and doesn't try to do anything stupid - Like, let's say, run with it and fumble - TWICE!!!! Then I'll take the Raidaaahhhs...

    But, that 3.5 still scares me - might try to get it under a field goal so when the game is tied at 10-10 and Janikowski has to kick a 78 yard field goal to win it, I can breathe a little easier.........

     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2011 - 1:40 PM ET #3

    KC +3.5
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    KC +3.5
     
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    Hey Sharp.. Thought you don't post NFL.. man.. I hate seeing you on the other side of the field but I got to go with Raiders even though Jason Campbell is out.  The only way I see Oakland not covering is chance of interceptions by backup QB and too many penalties... otherwise.. I don't think KC can move the ball much..  Under is tempting also..

    Oakland -3 (bought .5 for cheap) medium, Under -medium
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    Hey Sharp.. Thought you don't post NFL.. man.. I hate seeing you on the other side of the field but I got to go with Raiders even though Jason Campbell is out.  The only way I see Oakland not covering is chance of interceptions by backup QB and too many penalties... otherwise.. I don't think KC can move the ball much..  Under is tempting also..

    Oakland -3 (bought .5 for cheap) medium, Under -medium
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2011 - 3:24 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

    Kyle Boller? - UGH!!!!!!! -

    Stick Terelle Pryor in there - he can't possibly be any worse of a choice. Or the punter Shane Lechler - he looked pretty good throwing that touchdown......

    As long as Boller just dumps it out and/or hands it off and doesn't try to do anything stupid - Like, let's say, run with it and fumble - TWICE!!!! Then I'll take the Raidaaahhhs...

    But, that 3.5 still scares me - might try to get it under a field goal so when the game is tied at 10-10 and Janikowski has to kick a 78 yard field goal to win it, I can breathe a little easier.........



    Very funny!! especially the part about the "78 yard field goal".  I picked Oakland last week just because of Lechler.. He will help tremendously this week since Oakland will stop KC from landing TD.. so it's the punters' game this week also..
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

    Kyle Boller? - UGH!!!!!!! -

    Stick Terelle Pryor in there - he can't possibly be any worse of a choice. Or the punter Shane Lechler - he looked pretty good throwing that touchdown......

    As long as Boller just dumps it out and/or hands it off and doesn't try to do anything stupid - Like, let's say, run with it and fumble - TWICE!!!! Then I'll take the Raidaaahhhs...

    But, that 3.5 still scares me - might try to get it under a field goal so when the game is tied at 10-10 and Janikowski has to kick a 78 yard field goal to win it, I can breathe a little easier.........



    Very funny!! especially the part about the "78 yard field goal".  I picked Oakland last week just because of Lechler.. He will help tremendously this week since Oakland will stop KC from landing TD.. so it's the punters' game this week also..
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2011 - 8:08 PM ET #6

    Kassell over past two games has thrown 5tds to 0 picks.... on the other hand the raiders are in big trouble at the quarterback situation. And, besides that overtime game in november of 2010, the Raiders havn't covered against KC at home since 2005 I believe, underdog 8-0 ats last 8, KC 7-1 ats last 8 at oakland, KC coming off the bye week. I know trends about bye week didnt hold up for St louis or Miami, it could hold up here though.

    Pick.... KC +4.0

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    Kassell over past two games has thrown 5tds to 0 picks.... on the other hand the raiders are in big trouble at the quarterback situation. And, besides that overtime game in november of 2010, the Raiders havn't covered against KC at home since 2005 I believe, underdog 8-0 ats last 8, KC 7-1 ats last 8 at oakland, KC coming off the bye week. I know trends about bye week didnt hold up for St louis or Miami, it could hold up here though.

    Pick.... KC +4.0

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by gio113079:

    Kassell over past two games has thrown 5tds to 0 picks.... on the other hand the raiders are in big trouble at the quarterback situation. And, besides that overtime game in november of 2010, the Raiders havn't covered against KC at home since 2005 I believe, underdog 8-0 ats last 8, KC 7-1 ats last 8 at oakland, KC coming off the bye week. I know trends about bye week didnt hold up for St louis or Miami, it could hold up here though.

    Pick.... KC +4.0

     

     

     

     

     

    gotta agree.  Both teams suck.  Oakland probably got FLEECED in the cincy trade for Carson Palmer.  Oakland should get better in the next few years due to that old senile buzzard Al Davis closing his wretched eyes for the last time.  Al Davis made Jerry Jones look like Robert Kraft or (your favorite owner here).  Personally,  I'm leaning towards KC +3.5 and the Under

     

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by gio113079:

    Kassell over past two games has thrown 5tds to 0 picks.... on the other hand the raiders are in big trouble at the quarterback situation. And, besides that overtime game in november of 2010, the Raiders havn't covered against KC at home since 2005 I believe, underdog 8-0 ats last 8, KC 7-1 ats last 8 at oakland, KC coming off the bye week. I know trends about bye week didnt hold up for St louis or Miami, it could hold up here though.

    Pick.... KC +4.0

     

     

     

     

     

    gotta agree.  Both teams suck.  Oakland probably got FLEECED in the cincy trade for Carson Palmer.  Oakland should get better in the next few years due to that old senile buzzard Al Davis closing his wretched eyes for the last time.  Al Davis made Jerry Jones look like Robert Kraft or (your favorite owner here).  Personally,  I'm leaning towards KC +3.5 and the Under

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dddevin69:

     

     

     

     

     

    gotta agree.  Both teams suck.  Oakland probably got FLEECED in the cincy trade for Carson Palmer.  Oakland should get better in the next few years due to that old senile buzzard Al Davis closing his wretched eyes for the last time.  Al Davis made Jerry Jones look like Robert Kraft or (your favorite owner here).  Personally,  I'm leaning towards KC +3.5 and the Under

     

     

     

     

     

     

    You a freaking moron I'm glad your dumb ass is on the other side of this one if you think the Chiefs are going to come into the black hole with that person Castle then your as dumb as you look and sound Al Davis passing pretty much guaranteed inspired football by my Raiders I don't care if we start Prior KC sucks ass we owned them last year Mcfadden gonna shit on these boys hell I wouldn't doubt we see Prior take a few snaps in this one Raiders by DD.. #GODBLESSTHEDEAD #JUSTWINBABY

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    Quote Originally Posted by dddevin69:

     

     

     

     

     

    gotta agree.  Both teams suck.  Oakland probably got FLEECED in the cincy trade for Carson Palmer.  Oakland should get better in the next few years due to that old senile buzzard Al Davis closing his wretched eyes for the last time.  Al Davis made Jerry Jones look like Robert Kraft or (your favorite owner here).  Personally,  I'm leaning towards KC +3.5 and the Under

     

     

     

     

     

     

    You a freaking moron I'm glad your dumb ass is on the other side of this one if you think the Chiefs are going to come into the black hole with that person Castle then your as dumb as you look and sound Al Davis passing pretty much guaranteed inspired football by my Raiders I don't care if we start Prior KC sucks ass we owned them last year Mcfadden gonna shit on these boys hell I wouldn't doubt we see Prior take a few snaps in this one Raiders by DD.. #GODBLESSTHEDEAD #JUSTWINBABY

     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2011 - 10:10 AM ET #9

    Hmmmm......... Carson Palmer you say? I guess the Raiders are pushing their chips all in on this season. They figure they have enough talent on both sides of the ball to go deep into the playoffs.

    I like this move, Palmer was born in Fresno and went to USC - so he's a California guy, and I think the Raider Nation loves that. Also a Heisman winner and he's gone to 2 Pro Bowls. Plus, he's a HELLLLLLLLLL of a lot better choice than Boller........

    You can tell Al Davis is definitely gone, because this was actually a good trade for the Raiders! HA!!!!!! Just kidding Al - R.I.P. - - see DDDevin - that's how you do it............

    Line has already moved up to 4 - - I see it going even higher once people hear the news

    Good Luck everybody............

     

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    Hmmmm......... Carson Palmer you say? I guess the Raiders are pushing their chips all in on this season. They figure they have enough talent on both sides of the ball to go deep into the playoffs.

    I like this move, Palmer was born in Fresno and went to USC - so he's a California guy, and I think the Raider Nation loves that. Also a Heisman winner and he's gone to 2 Pro Bowls. Plus, he's a HELLLLLLLLLL of a lot better choice than Boller........

    You can tell Al Davis is definitely gone, because this was actually a good trade for the Raiders! HA!!!!!! Just kidding Al - R.I.P. - - see DDDevin - that's how you do it............

    Line has already moved up to 4 - - I see it going even higher once people hear the news

    Good Luck everybody............

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2011 - 5:54 PM ET #10

    Palmer has something to prove but can he learn the system in 5 days?
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2011 - 5:55 PM ET #11

    money line....large
    ive pounded the raiders every game this season....5-1 ats
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    money line....large
    ive pounded the raiders every game this season....5-1 ats
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by U-Z:

    Palmer has something to prove but can he learn the system in 5 days?

    You mean the "system" of handing it off/dumping it off to D-Mac and Michael Bush? Yeah - I think he can learn that, unlike Boller who can't........

    "Ground & Pound" take the Raiders, take the under 43................

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    Quote Originally Posted by U-Z:

    Palmer has something to prove but can he learn the system in 5 days?

    You mean the "system" of handing it off/dumping it off to D-Mac and Michael Bush? Yeah - I think he can learn that, unlike Boller who can't........

    "Ground & Pound" take the Raiders, take the under 43................

     
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         Was it Carson Palmer that sucked or were the Bungles just God awful. The Raiders are on a mission this season. I wouldn't be a bit surprised that the team has dedicated this year in memory of Mr. Al Davis, their icon. If I was the Chiefs, I'd call in the game ,forfeit, and don't bother to show up! But then again, please show up ,so I can cover.

    OAKLAND  - 4 (Major Wager!!)

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         Was it Carson Palmer that sucked or were the Bungles just God awful. The Raiders are on a mission this season. I wouldn't be a bit surprised that the team has dedicated this year in memory of Mr. Al Davis, their icon. If I was the Chiefs, I'd call in the game ,forfeit, and don't bother to show up! But then again, please show up ,so I can cover.

    OAKLAND  - 4 (Major Wager!!)

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

    Kyle Boller? - UGH!!!!!!! -

    Stick Terelle Pryor in there - he can't possibly be any worse of a choice. Or the punter Shane Lechler - he looked pretty good throwing that touchdown......

    As long as Boller just dumps it out and/or hands it off and doesn't try to do anything stupid - Like, let's say, run with it and fumble - TWICE!!!! Then I'll take the Raidaaahhhs...

    But, that 3.5 still scares me - might try to get it under a field goal so when the game is tied at 10-10 and Janikowski has to kick a 78 yard field goal to win it, I can breathe a little easier.........

     (Just love the Janikowski sarcasm here!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

    Kyle Boller? - UGH!!!!!!! -

    Stick Terelle Pryor in there - he can't possibly be any worse of a choice. Or the punter Shane Lechler - he looked pretty good throwing that touchdown......

    As long as Boller just dumps it out and/or hands it off and doesn't try to do anything stupid - Like, let's say, run with it and fumble - TWICE!!!! Then I'll take the Raidaaahhhs...

    But, that 3.5 still scares me - might try to get it under a field goal so when the game is tied at 10-10 and Janikowski has to kick a 78 yard field goal to win it, I can breathe a little easier.........

     (Just love the Janikowski sarcasm here!)

     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2011 - 8:40 AM ET #15

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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2011 - 6:05 PM ET #17

    Mcfadden will run all over the chiefs with palmer as a deep threat, Oakland will cover. Not betting this one though as there is better value on other games. Tossing it into a 6 team parlay though.
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    Mcfadden will run all over the chiefs with palmer as a deep threat, Oakland will cover. Not betting this one though as there is better value on other games. Tossing it into a 6 team parlay though.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2011 - 1:47 AM ET #18

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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2011 - 2:02 AM ET #19

    over.....19 vs 28 defenses.....palmer will acclimate fine with hugh coaching....they have been on the same team since college ball...they will be on the same page shortly ...bye week next week is great timing though!

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    over.....19 vs 28 defenses.....palmer will acclimate fine with hugh coaching....they have been on the same team since college ball...they will be on the same page shortly ...bye week next week is great timing though!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2011 - 2:07 AM ET #20

    chiefs will get owned this weekened...dont have short memory cuz they put up yards against the 2 worst teams in the league the last two weeks....the raiders will OWN the chiefs....and im a Charger fan (lions nfc)....and ps please dont talk shit on Al...I mean...especially if you live in that wretched state called Oklohama,...what a fucking dump that is...iraq is a better place to live, Ive been to both...trust me..have you now shame?..>>RIP AL
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    chiefs will get owned this weekened...dont have short memory cuz they put up yards against the 2 worst teams in the league the last two weeks....the raiders will OWN the chiefs....and im a Charger fan (lions nfc)....and ps please dont talk shit on Al...I mean...especially if you live in that wretched state called Oklohama,...what a fucking dump that is...iraq is a better place to live, Ive been to both...trust me..have you now shame?..>>RIP AL
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2011 - 5:33 AM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by CollegeSharp:

    KC +3.5

    Wow Sharp. . . Never expected to see you on the NFL section.  Early lean KC as well  

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    Quote Originally Posted by CollegeSharp:

    KC +3.5

    Wow Sharp. . . Never expected to see you on the NFL section.  Early lean KC as well  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by CollegeSharp:

    KC +3.5

    Wow Sharp. . . Never expected to see you on the NFL section.  Early lean KC as well  

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    Quote Originally Posted by CollegeSharp:

    KC +3.5

    Wow Sharp. . . Never expected to see you on the NFL section.  Early lean KC as well  

     
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    You a freaking moron I'm glad your dumb ass is on the other side of this one if you think the Chiefs are going to come into the black hole with that person Castle then your as dumb as you look and sound Al Davis passing pretty much guaranteed inspired football by my Raiders I don't care if we start Prior KC sucks ass we owned them last year Mcfadden gonna shit on these boys hell I wouldn't doubt we see Prior take a few snaps in this one Raiders by DD.. #GODBLESSTHEDEAD #JUSTWINBABY

     

     

    well, u have me tagged right.  I'm a moron for dare doubting an oakland team that has lost not 1, but their top 2 starters.  As u probably know by now not only is Jason cambell obviously not playing....but neither is Carson Palmer.  So......good luck hanging ur hat on the Kyle Boller and T Pryor show.  I'm not saying that Oakland won't win.  I'm sure they will.  But the objective isn't so much for KC to win....but cover a +3.5 point spread.       I'm still feeling pretty good about that.

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    You a freaking moron I'm glad your dumb ass is on the other side of this one if you think the Chiefs are going to come into the black hole with that person Castle then your as dumb as you look and sound Al Davis passing pretty much guaranteed inspired football by my Raiders I don't care if we start Prior KC sucks ass we owned them last year Mcfadden gonna shit on these boys hell I wouldn't doubt we see Prior take a few snaps in this one Raiders by DD.. #GODBLESSTHEDEAD #JUSTWINBABY

     

     

    well, u have me tagged right.  I'm a moron for dare doubting an oakland team that has lost not 1, but their top 2 starters.  As u probably know by now not only is Jason cambell obviously not playing....but neither is Carson Palmer.  So......good luck hanging ur hat on the Kyle Boller and T Pryor show.  I'm not saying that Oakland won't win.  I'm sure they will.  But the objective isn't so much for KC to win....but cover a +3.5 point spread.       I'm still feeling pretty good about that.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dddevin69:

     

     

    well, u have me tagged right.  I'm a moron for dare doubting an oakland team that has lost not 1, but their top 2 starters.  As u probably know by now not only is Jason cambell obviously not playing....but neither is Carson Palmer.  So......good luck hanging ur hat on the Kyle Boller and T Pryor show.  I'm not saying that Oakland won't win.  I'm sure they will.  But the objective isn't so much for KC to win....but cover a +3.5 point spread.       I'm still feeling pretty good about that.

     

    Palmer is a game time decision it's not certain that he will or won't start  so please don't jump the gun and give people bad or inaccurate information. I called you a Moron mainly because you bad mouthed a dead man, not only a dead man but a football icon that has done more for football than your whole family tree. I really could care less who the QB is tell you the truth Boller, Prior, Palmer will carry the Raiders to easy victory and cover the Chiefs plain out suck balls and Raider Nation is on the rise. Players are buying into the system and it's showing and are you seriously telling me your going to put your money on the Chiefs? Have you seen them play this season? They suck if it wasn't for the fact there last two games were against two of the sorriest teams in the league they'd be 0-5

     

    Smart money is on the Raiders you keep fading the worse teams in the league and let me know how that works for you bruh. You'll be the one explaining to the kids why Santa aint coming this year lol

     

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    well, u have me tagged right.  I'm a moron for dare doubting an oakland team that has lost not 1, but their top 2 starters.  As u probably know by now not only is Jason cambell obviously not playing....but neither is Carson Palmer.  So......good luck hanging ur hat on the Kyle Boller and T Pryor show.  I'm not saying that Oakland won't win.  I'm sure they will.  But the objective isn't so much for KC to win....but cover a +3.5 point spread.       I'm still feeling pretty good about that.

     

    Palmer is a game time decision it's not certain that he will or won't start  so please don't jump the gun and give people bad or inaccurate information. I called you a Moron mainly because you bad mouthed a dead man, not only a dead man but a football icon that has done more for football than your whole family tree. I really could care less who the QB is tell you the truth Boller, Prior, Palmer will carry the Raiders to easy victory and cover the Chiefs plain out suck balls and Raider Nation is on the rise. Players are buying into the system and it's showing and are you seriously telling me your going to put your money on the Chiefs? Have you seen them play this season? They suck if it wasn't for the fact there last two games were against two of the sorriest teams in the league they'd be 0-5

     

    Smart money is on the Raiders you keep fading the worse teams in the league and let me know how that works for you bruh. You'll be the one explaining to the kids why Santa aint coming this year lol

     

     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2011 - 7:14 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by NEVERgo4less:

    Hey Sharp.. Thought you don't post NFL.. man.. I hate seeing you on the other side of the field but I got to go with Raiders even though Jason Campbell is out.  The only way I see Oakland not covering is chance of interceptions by backup QB and too many penalties... otherwise.. I don't think KC can move the ball much..  Under is tempting also..

    Oakland -3 (bought .5 for cheap) medium, Under -medium

    I must have been drunk or something... LOL.  Thought I'd get some feed back... there's a reason I don't do NFL... I suck at it!  I did like KC until Palmer came in, so I'm not playing it now.... I usually only play 1, 2, or 3 games on Sunday just for the action.  But don't tell anyone... SHARP

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEVERgo4less:

    Hey Sharp.. Thought you don't post NFL.. man.. I hate seeing you on the other side of the field but I got to go with Raiders even though Jason Campbell is out.  The only way I see Oakland not covering is chance of interceptions by backup QB and too many penalties... otherwise.. I don't think KC can move the ball much..  Under is tempting also..

    Oakland -3 (bought .5 for cheap) medium, Under -medium

    I must have been drunk or something... LOL.  Thought I'd get some feed back... there's a reason I don't do NFL... I suck at it!  I did like KC until Palmer came in, so I'm not playing it now.... I usually only play 1, 2, or 3 games on Sunday just for the action.  But don't tell anyone... SHARP

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