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    Green Bay at Seattle (09/24/2012)

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    lovetogamble
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 12:42 PM ET #51

    SEAHAWKS +3.5
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    SEAHAWKS +3.5
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 12:52 PM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by dlbagby:

    OKAY GUYS, IM ABOUT TO PUT MAD MONEY ON THIS GAME WITH A BOOKIE BUT I NEED TO KNOW WHAT SHOULD I PUT MY $400 CASH ON, THEY SAID JENNING IS PLAYING SO IM WILLING TO BET PACKERS -3.5, IS THAT THE RIGHT DECISION AND REMEMBER YALL, I SAID IM PUTTING $400 CASH ON THIS GAME, I NEED YALL HELP, ASAP!!!

    IM GUESSING YOU DIDN'T READ MY POST.

    It's underdog week!!!!
    Follow the trend!!!!
    11-14 games underdogs covered!!!
    Only teams that were giving and covered
    were the Texans, Bills, and Bears.....

    Take the points!!!!! SEATTLE

    *If G. Bay is that great of a team like some of you
    are saying then why hasn't the line moved and why
    is the line so small? 

    Just like the 49ers/Vikings and Lions/Titans. 
    Think about it!!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by dlbagby:

    OKAY GUYS, IM ABOUT TO PUT MAD MONEY ON THIS GAME WITH A BOOKIE BUT I NEED TO KNOW WHAT SHOULD I PUT MY $400 CASH ON, THEY SAID JENNING IS PLAYING SO IM WILLING TO BET PACKERS -3.5, IS THAT THE RIGHT DECISION AND REMEMBER YALL, I SAID IM PUTTING $400 CASH ON THIS GAME, I NEED YALL HELP, ASAP!!!

    IM GUESSING YOU DIDN'T READ MY POST.

    It's underdog week!!!!
    Follow the trend!!!!
    11-14 games underdogs covered!!!
    Only teams that were giving and covered
    were the Texans, Bills, and Bears.....

    Take the points!!!!! SEATTLE

    *If G. Bay is that great of a team like some of you
    are saying then why hasn't the line moved and why
    is the line so small? 

    Just like the 49ers/Vikings and Lions/Titans. 
    Think about it!!!!!


     
    ATLiens007
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 12:54 PM ET #53

    Actually underdogs covered 12-15. 
    I forgot the Patriots covered as underdogs!!!!
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    Actually underdogs covered 12-15. 
    I forgot the Patriots covered as underdogs!!!!
     
    shacorie
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 1:18 PM ET #54

    Alot of ot games yesterday be careful about what side u choose

    seachickens+3 1/2 and over 45 1/2

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    Alot of ot games yesterday be careful about what side u choose

    seachickens+3 1/2 and over 45 1/2

     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 2:30 PM ET #55

    Good insight from Amazing1 and L-Jay

    Conflicted but early lean is to go with the better QB. What better QB than Aaron Rodgers. Really the tale of the opposites. The Seahawks are better at running the ball than passing (ranked 32nd in passing). The Pack (obviously) are better at passing than running. But the defenses: Seattle -- better at rush defense, 12th in passing (could be even better at home). Packers -- #1 in Pass D, 26th in rush defense (spells trouble).

    From this, I'm gathering that since GB had some time to rest, practice, and look over film, they will stop marshawn to a certain extent and when they do pass, Wilson will get picked off for 2 or more INTs. With Sam Shields, Woodson, and Tramon in the backfield, it's going to be a tough day for Wilson. It's also possible that the Seahawks rush the ball and keep Rodgers on the sidelines while they pound the ball. Don't forget about AJ and Clay flying around the field.

    The packers are finding some offensive rhythm running the ball. What people aren't looking at is that against the 49ers, that is one tough D line that your offensive line will try to move. They get a great pass rush as well as plug in the holes when trying to run through the gaps.

    I'm not sure if I can bet on a rookie on his first MNF game. My early lean is with the public on this. What may happen is that the O line of the packers will give Rodgers enough time to throw the ball. Backed by Saturday, it's possible that they fix this issue looking over game tapes of the 49ers pass rush (I don't think any other team has a better pass rush than the 49ers).

    I really like the battle in the trenches on this game which I give the Packers an edge against SEA D line. Just like last night, the pass rush of the ravens might not be good enough against Tom (came down to the last field goal but they covered).  One thing to consider is how the Seahawks will get a pass rush. I think their best pass rusher will be Clemons but he faces a 6'4" 320 Newhouse where as Clemons is a lean 250. That's a 70 lb difference...

    Will provide an update later in the day. Early prediction is to take the Packers.
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    Good insight from Amazing1 and L-Jay

    Conflicted but early lean is to go with the better QB. What better QB than Aaron Rodgers. Really the tale of the opposites. The Seahawks are better at running the ball than passing (ranked 32nd in passing). The Pack (obviously) are better at passing than running. But the defenses: Seattle -- better at rush defense, 12th in passing (could be even better at home). Packers -- #1 in Pass D, 26th in rush defense (spells trouble).

    From this, I'm gathering that since GB had some time to rest, practice, and look over film, they will stop marshawn to a certain extent and when they do pass, Wilson will get picked off for 2 or more INTs. With Sam Shields, Woodson, and Tramon in the backfield, it's going to be a tough day for Wilson. It's also possible that the Seahawks rush the ball and keep Rodgers on the sidelines while they pound the ball. Don't forget about AJ and Clay flying around the field.

    The packers are finding some offensive rhythm running the ball. What people aren't looking at is that against the 49ers, that is one tough D line that your offensive line will try to move. They get a great pass rush as well as plug in the holes when trying to run through the gaps.

    I'm not sure if I can bet on a rookie on his first MNF game. My early lean is with the public on this. What may happen is that the O line of the packers will give Rodgers enough time to throw the ball. Backed by Saturday, it's possible that they fix this issue looking over game tapes of the 49ers pass rush (I don't think any other team has a better pass rush than the 49ers).

    I really like the battle in the trenches on this game which I give the Packers an edge against SEA D line. Just like last night, the pass rush of the ravens might not be good enough against Tom (came down to the last field goal but they covered).  One thing to consider is how the Seahawks will get a pass rush. I think their best pass rusher will be Clemons but he faces a 6'4" 320 Newhouse where as Clemons is a lean 250. That's a 70 lb difference...

    Will provide an update later in the day. Early prediction is to take the Packers.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 2:31 PM ET #56

    I tried to figure out a way to take Seattle in this spot but just can't do it.     Seahawks have a good secondary and are stout against the run, but they aren't exactly the 85 Bears, either.    They have only 2 sacks in 2 games vs teams with questionable offensive lines.     If they can't put big pressure on Rodgers, he has the ability to methodically pick apart the Hawks D with his passing.   

    Hawks have a good run game and Wilson has done a nice job so far, even though he only passes for 150 yds/game.    But I gotta go with the Pack and Rodgers, who is arguably the best QB in the NFL right now

    Pack -3 -120

    GLTA
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    I tried to figure out a way to take Seattle in this spot but just can't do it.     Seahawks have a good secondary and are stout against the run, but they aren't exactly the 85 Bears, either.    They have only 2 sacks in 2 games vs teams with questionable offensive lines.     If they can't put big pressure on Rodgers, he has the ability to methodically pick apart the Hawks D with his passing.   

    Hawks have a good run game and Wilson has done a nice job so far, even though he only passes for 150 yds/game.    But I gotta go with the Pack and Rodgers, who is arguably the best QB in the NFL right now

    Pack -3 -120

    GLTA
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 2:45 PM ET #57

    I think I'm going to bet every quarters for GB where they're always getting points. I just don't think SEA has the firepower to keep up with GB...
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    I think I'm going to bet every quarters for GB where they're always getting points. I just don't think SEA has the firepower to keep up with GB...
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 2:46 PM ET #58

    Sorry... not getting points... favored by -.5 (changed my mind lol)
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    Sorry... not getting points... favored by -.5 (changed my mind lol)
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 2:47 PM ET #59

    Any of us that lost coin yesterday know how ASSBACKWARDS  the NFL  is right now............

    Any of us that WATCHED games yesterday know how ASSBACKWARDS the NFL is right now................

    So don't tell me 'Hawks don't have a GREAT chance tonight.

    GB has no run game.....SEA has 1 of, if not thee best 2ndarys in the league.............!!

    SEA......best MNF NFL record @ 17-6!!

    Rodgers 0-4 MNF ATS!!

    Wilson, yes he's a rookie, he also has alot less to prove with Luck and RG3 in the spotlight, he's gonna be a sleeper..........

    .and all that's being said about Wilson.."He don't look like no rookie"........"He's very mature for his age"........"And just stole the job from 2 VETERANS!!!!!!!!!

    KEEP THE POINTS!!!!!!

    SEAHAWKS ML !!

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    Any of us that lost coin yesterday know how ASSBACKWARDS  the NFL  is right now............

    Any of us that WATCHED games yesterday know how ASSBACKWARDS the NFL is right now................

    So don't tell me 'Hawks don't have a GREAT chance tonight.

    GB has no run game.....SEA has 1 of, if not thee best 2ndarys in the league.............!!

    SEA......best MNF NFL record @ 17-6!!

    Rodgers 0-4 MNF ATS!!

    Wilson, yes he's a rookie, he also has alot less to prove with Luck and RG3 in the spotlight, he's gonna be a sleeper..........

    .and all that's being said about Wilson.."He don't look like no rookie"........"He's very mature for his age"........"And just stole the job from 2 VETERANS!!!!!!!!!

    KEEP THE POINTS!!!!!!

    SEAHAWKS ML !!

     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 2:51 PM ET #60

    Not sure how you came up with 1 of the best secondaries... 12th in the NFL right now in Pass D.
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    Not sure how you came up with 1 of the best secondaries... 12th in the NFL right now in Pass D.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 2:58 PM ET #61

    Oh yeah.......And AZ is 3-0 so why the hell not?!
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    Oh yeah.......And AZ is 3-0 so why the hell not?!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 3:23 PM ET #62

    green bay by 10
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    green bay by 10
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 3:26 PM ET #63

    Seems like the powers that be in the NFL (Goodell and his minions) need to settle down this referee fiasco after yesterdays ugliness and last night's towel fest.

    They'll talk to the officiating to keep more laundry in their pockets and without those crazy calls that slant a game Green Bay should beat Seattle tonight by at least 3 probably 7-10.

    That being said, I made $ yesterday with alot of dogs on the moneyline (based on the officials f-ing up good teams game flow and momentum), so admittedly, I am reversing my trend for this game.  I figure the NFL and the books need that one game to make bettors believe 'it's not all random craziness, see?!'  

    GL to everyone and hopefully the game tonight will be more about football and less about zebras and yellow flags.  Let the teams play, and stay out of the way unless it's a blatent rules infraction.
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    Seems like the powers that be in the NFL (Goodell and his minions) need to settle down this referee fiasco after yesterdays ugliness and last night's towel fest.

    They'll talk to the officiating to keep more laundry in their pockets and without those crazy calls that slant a game Green Bay should beat Seattle tonight by at least 3 probably 7-10.

    That being said, I made $ yesterday with alot of dogs on the moneyline (based on the officials f-ing up good teams game flow and momentum), so admittedly, I am reversing my trend for this game.  I figure the NFL and the books need that one game to make bettors believe 'it's not all random craziness, see?!'  

    GL to everyone and hopefully the game tonight will be more about football and less about zebras and yellow flags.  Let the teams play, and stay out of the way unless it's a blatent rules infraction.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 3:29 PM ET #64

    PS Don't forget how the Giants made Cam Newton look awful when everyone thought he was going to come out and be the man after he rolled New Orleans....easy on that kool-aide!
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    PS Don't forget how the Giants made Cam Newton look awful when everyone thought he was going to come out and be the man after he rolled New Orleans....easy on that kool-aide!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 3:43 PM ET #65

    In reference to people talking about how the line really hasn't moved at all with 75% of the money on GB etc. I personally believe there are specific situations or scenarios where Vegas "holds their ground" so to speak...in order to reinforce the idea that a certain team holds a good chance of winning. Meaning that if Vegas starts letting the line move it would reflect their uncertainty in the Seahawks ability to win/cover thus bringing in even more GB wagers and more risk. Any other thoughts on this? Or opinions? However, I do believe that in the majority of situations (sf/minn) when the majority of the money is on one side and the line stays put it is because Vegas knows they are on the right side
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    In reference to people talking about how the line really hasn't moved at all with 75% of the money on GB etc. I personally believe there are specific situations or scenarios where Vegas "holds their ground" so to speak...in order to reinforce the idea that a certain team holds a good chance of winning. Meaning that if Vegas starts letting the line move it would reflect their uncertainty in the Seahawks ability to win/cover thus bringing in even more GB wagers and more risk. Any other thoughts on this? Or opinions? However, I do believe that in the majority of situations (sf/minn) when the majority of the money is on one side and the line stays put it is because Vegas knows they are on the right side
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 3:45 PM ET #66

    "Did I seriously put my money on Russell Wilson over Aaron Rodgers?" - Everyone that back the hawks tonight midway thru the 2nd quarter.
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    "Did I seriously put my money on Russell Wilson over Aaron Rodgers?" - Everyone that back the hawks tonight midway thru the 2nd quarter.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 4:02 PM ET #67

    "Bet That Sports" Airs Tonight at 7pm ET on UStream.com (Free expert play for GB-Sea)

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    On Tonight's show the guys (Paul Tannura & Joe Casey) will be talking about what they saw over the weekend in College and Pro Football, Who is a bigger Surprise, 3-0 Cardinals or the 0-3 Saints? Also What NFL story lines stick out more than the others and who are the Top 5 Teams in the NFL as of Week 3?

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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 4:18 PM ET #68

    [Quote: Originally Posted by WeedKing4] The public is all over GB in this one. Just under 75% of bets on GB. Who else had this public backing on sunday? Lions, Steelers, 49ers. And how did those teams fare?
    My wallet says they lost. I am going to stay far away from the NFL after these first few weeks. No way Minny should have beat up SF like that and do not get me started with Detroit.
    As far as the game tonight, just as Dallas how easy is it to play up in OZ. I would take GB but at this point it is not worth it. GB will probably win by a point.


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    [Quote: Originally Posted by WeedKing4] The public is all over GB in this one. Just under 75% of bets on GB. Who else had this public backing on sunday? Lions, Steelers, 49ers. And how did those teams fare?
    My wallet says they lost. I am going to stay far away from the NFL after these first few weeks. No way Minny should have beat up SF like that and do not get me started with Detroit.
    As far as the game tonight, just as Dallas how easy is it to play up in OZ. I would take GB but at this point it is not worth it. GB will probably win by a point.


     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 4:20 PM ET #69

    [Quote: Originally Posted by Whalewatcher] Oh yeah.......And AZ is 3-0 so why the hell not?! NFL is becoming the WWE more and more every year. This season is crazy....
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by Whalewatcher] Oh yeah.......And AZ is 3-0 so why the hell not?! NFL is becoming the WWE more and more every year. This season is crazy....
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 4:46 PM ET #70

    Quote Originally Posted by forkball:

    Why isn't Vegas moving the line?
    my guess is that they're already getting even action.....23Packers 20Sea.

     

     

      

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by forkball:

    Why isn't Vegas moving the line?
    my guess is that they're already getting even action.....23Packers 20Sea.

     

     

      

     

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 4:47 PM ET #71

    forget Rodgers vs Wilson...the real mismatch is Woodson vs Wilson..the man has FEASTED on rookie QBs
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    forget Rodgers vs Wilson...the real mismatch is Woodson vs Wilson..the man has FEASTED on rookie QBs
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 4:53 PM ET #72

    "In eight games against rookie quarterbacks -- with the Packers going 6-2 -- Woodson has eight interceptions"

    https://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/170847671.html#!page=1&viewAll=0&sort=oldestfirst&pageSize=50
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    "In eight games against rookie quarterbacks -- with the Packers going 6-2 -- Woodson has eight interceptions"

    https://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/170847671.html#!page=1&viewAll=0&sort=oldestfirst&pageSize=50
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 5:04 PM ET #73

    Thanks JRebel23. Do you know what the interception ratio looks like between the 8? Home vs. Away for GB backfield?
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    Thanks JRebel23. Do you know what the interception ratio looks like between the 8? Home vs. Away for GB backfield?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 5:30 PM ET #74

    Those 4 interceptions (2 from Cam Newton, 2 from Ponder) were both away games. Tramon actually picked off Ponder once in the same game as well.... I'm further leaning packers. Maybe 4 units even.
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    Those 4 interceptions (2 from Cam Newton, 2 from Ponder) were both away games. Tramon actually picked off Ponder once in the same game as well.... I'm further leaning packers. Maybe 4 units even.
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 5:41 PM ET #75

    What will be interesting to see if GB intercepts Wilson enough to discourage him and get him down like Cam. Also if Flynn comes in, I have no doubt that GB DB's know what his tendencies are as a QB and will be able to sniff them out.

    Cancelling factor: Loudness for experience. The chemsitry between the receivers and Rodgers is already built. They just need to execute. If they don't execute, they will not advance the ball.

    GB -3 -115, for 3 units
    GB -3, over 45.5 for 1. BOL everyone
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    What will be interesting to see if GB intercepts Wilson enough to discourage him and get him down like Cam. Also if Flynn comes in, I have no doubt that GB DB's know what his tendencies are as a QB and will be able to sniff them out.

    Cancelling factor: Loudness for experience. The chemsitry between the receivers and Rodgers is already built. They just need to execute. If they don't execute, they will not advance the ball.

    GB -3 -115, for 3 units
    GB -3, over 45.5 for 1. BOL everyone
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