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Posted: #76
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Quote Originally Posted by HappyKane:

Packers Offense:
 
QB A+ Aaron Rodgers; RB C Ryan Grant; FB C- John Kuhn; WR C- Donald Driver; WR C- Greg Jennings; WR C-/D- Jordy Nelson; WR B+ James Jones; TE B+ Donald Lee; TE C- Jermichael Finley; RT C- Allen Barbre; RG B- Josh Sitton; C C- Jason Spitz; LG B-/C+ T.J. Lang; LT C+ Daryn Colledge
 
Packers Defense:
 
NT A-/B+ Ryan Pickett; DE C- Johnny Jolly; DE C- Cullen Jenkins; LB A Aaron Kampman; LB C- A.J. Hawk; LB C+ Nick Barnett; LB C+ Brady Poppinga; CB B- Charles Woodson; SS C+ Matt Giordano; FS B+ Nick Collins; CB B- Clay Matthews
 
Vikings Offense:
 
QB C+ Brett Favre; RB C- Adrian Peterson; RB C+ Chester Taylor; FB B- Naufahu Tahi; WR B- Bernard Berrian; WR C- Sidney Rice; WR B+ Percy Harvin; TE A-/B+ Visanthe Shiancoe; TE C- Jimmy Kleinsasser; RT A-/B+ Phil Loadholt; RG B+ Anthony Herrera; C B- John Sullivan; LG B+ Steve Hutchinson; LT C Bryant McKinnie
 
Vikings Defense:
 
DT C- Pat Williams; DT C- Kevin Williams; DE B+ Ray Edwards; DE C- Jared Allen; LB C Chad Greenway; LB B- Jasper Brinkley; LB B- Ben Leber; CB B- Antoine Winfield; SS B+ Tyrell Johnson; FS C+ Madieu Williams; CB C+ Cedric Griffin
 
Pick: Under 45.4
 
 
Looking past the WHACK rating you gave AP, you than go on to enlighten us with your stellar rating system by posting a 2nd string Chester Taylor as a C+!!!! HAHAHA
PETERSON C-
HIS BACKUP C+
HAPPYCANES GRADING SYSTEM F
 
VIKES -4.5 CHA CHING BABY!!!!

Here we go again...too dumb to find out what it's all about before bitching about it.  Great first post and first impression.

 
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Posted: #77
Quote Originally Posted by LeAr_DoGG:

Quote Originally Posted by HappyKane:

Packers Offense:
 
QB A+ Aaron Rodgers; RB C Ryan Grant; FB C- John Kuhn; WR C- Donald Driver; WR C- Greg Jennings; WR C-/D- Jordy Nelson; WR B+ James Jones; TE B+ Donald Lee; TE C- Jermichael Finley; RT C- Allen Barbre; RG B- Josh Sitton; C C- Jason Spitz; LG B-/C+ T.J. Lang; LT C+ Daryn Colledge
 
Packers Defense:
 
NT A-/B+ Ryan Pickett; DE C- Johnny Jolly; DE C- Cullen Jenkins; LB A Aaron Kampman; LB C- A.J. Hawk; LB C+ Nick Barnett; LB C+ Brady Poppinga; CB B- Charles Woodson; SS C+ Matt Giordano; FS B+ Nick Collins; CB B- Clay Matthews
 
Vikings Offense:
 
QB C+ Brett Favre; RB C- Adrian Peterson; RB C+ Chester Taylor; FB B- Naufahu Tahi; WR B- Bernard Berrian; WR C- Sidney Rice; WR B+ Percy Harvin; TE A-/B+ Visanthe Shiancoe; TE C- Jimmy Kleinsasser; RT A-/B+ Phil Loadholt; RG B+ Anthony Herrera; C B- John Sullivan; LG B+ Steve Hutchinson; LT C Bryant McKinnie
 
Vikings Defense:
 
DT C- Pat Williams; DT C- Kevin Williams; DE B+ Ray Edwards; DE C- Jared Allen; LB C Chad Greenway; LB B- Jasper Brinkley; LB B- Ben Leber; CB B- Antoine Winfield; SS B+ Tyrell Johnson; FS C+ Madieu Williams; CB C+ Cedric Griffin
 
Pick: Under 45.4
 
 
Looking past the WHACK rating you gave AP, you than go on to enlighten us with your stellar rating system by posting a 2nd string Chester Taylor as a C+!!!! HAHAHA
PETERSON C-
HIS BACKUP C+
HAPPYCANES GRADING SYSTEM F
 
VIKES -4.5 CHA CHING BABY!!!!

Hey dumbshit, his grades are based on how he thinks they'll perform in this game not how he feels they are in general. Maybe you should grow some hair on your nuts before you challenge a long time contributor. Fuckin punks.

 
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Posted: #78
Quote Originally Posted by pro-z:

fucked up week.. and mika i told you one and i will tell you again that my dad is a brain surgeon and i'm about to finish power engineering, i dont own a taxi business i dont care about your posts.. i fucked up this week bad and lost 3000 dollors so get off my nutts mika i'm putting 5000 on the home team, the reason is that the home team has favre and favre is a guy who knows all about monday games. he did it last week and he will do it again viks -3 for me good luck to every one. if this goes through i will make 4000 for this week if not then i will lose 8000 from this week

doubling up is never smart my friend.... especially on Monday Night Football....

However, I think the Vikings will win and cover... but since you will be on your knees already during the game, you might as well grow a set and take the Viking MoneyLine....

or do what I am going to do....

take the OVER and sit and relax, and watch the Vikings Defense score more tds than Adrian Peterson and Brett Farve

 
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Posted: #79
I'll take Green Bay +5. Good luck.
 
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Leaning on Minnesota and the over I really like Minnesota in this spot, but can't help to think that because this is a big spotlight game for Brett Farve, he may try do to much.  If  he does that, he may throw some picks tonight.  If he just let's the Offensive do it's thing, run AP, run AP, play action, etc they will run away with this one. 
 
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Posted: #81
Funny grading system  must be from some  cuntry other than the U.S.A
 
I read an artical from Minnesota where A peterson says he wants to win this game for Brett.
 
Now that to me shows team work .  unlike the Redskints .mybe it is just me but i feel these guys are a complete team arnd successs in the NFL   has to have this  to really work well.
 
Viks and the over 
 
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Posted: #82
Quote Originally Posted by pro-z:

fucked up week.. and mika i told you one and i will tell you again that my dad is a brain surgeon and i'm about to finish power engineering, i dont own a taxi business i dont care about your posts.. i fucked up this week bad and lost 3000 dollors so get off my nutts mika i'm putting 5000 on the home team, the reason is that the home team has favre and favre is a guy who knows all about monday games. he did it last week and he will do it again viks -3 for me good luck to every one. if this goes through i will make 4000 for this week if not then i will lose 8000 from this week

engineers should know basic math right? -3000 + 5000 =  4000?

packers / under

 
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Posted: #83
This site is always the same. So much name calling instead of talking about the game.

PACKERS +5

I'll be posting a write up shortly.
 
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Posted: #84
I have no idea?
 
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Posted: #85
Wow...can't we all just get along!!!   Line is a bit inflated because of #4...but the defense will cover it!!!  VIkes by 14!!!  Good luck all
 
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Posted: #86
Ok I'm easy...I'll give it to you
This game goes ov 46...you can bet on that
 
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Packers +5
 
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Quote Originally Posted by lefty1209:

Wow...can't we all just get along!!!   Line is a bit inflated because of #4...but the defense will cover it!!!  VIkes by 14!!!  Good luck all

 good luck my friend

Wanted the over on this one....but might lay off and lay it on Tuesday instead.

 
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Posted: #89

Minn seems to be the better team but I feel that Rodgers is very hungry to win this game and prove that he is better than Farve.  It’s hard to bet against Farve on MNF  but In my opinion Rodgers is the one out for revenge and has something to prove not Farve.  GB should be able to keep the game within 3 point either way. GB +5

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Formaly_Sampson:

I belive that tonights game for the Pack is a must win... there are maultiple reasons...

  1. Morale- idk about you but with a 2-1 record they dont look like they are meshing to well.
  2. Knocking off a Contendor for the NFC North- If the Pack wants a chance to try and take down the NFC North this would help them out a great deal with a win tonight that Leaves the Bears Pack and the Vikes all with a 3-1 record 
  3. Defeating a formar leader- yeah ik im probably going to get some greif about this one but i belive that if the packers would want to win a game all season taking down Brett and the Vikes in Minneapolis is going to be at the top of that list

Call me Crazy Packs ML is my pick

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@ Sampson: I was just drinking some sake with a friend last night and he said the same thing about the Packs ML play.  He asked me how much I was up and I told him +26.00 Units.  He said if he was me, he would play the Packs ML play just for the hell of it and the "Over".  Now you got me really thinking about that one....

 
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Posted: #91
Had an awsome day yesterday, even tho I think this a bit degenerate of me, I am going with the Packs ML..
 
GL
 
 
 
 
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Take the Packers +5 and win tonight . The line movement is due to the pounding the public is giving it. The fact is, these two teams are about as close to mirror images as possible. Minn betting running and better defensive line. Packers better passing offensive and defensive secondary. Both teams are struggling on the offensive line right now. This spread shouldn't be any higher than 3 points for either team, if this game were in lambeau you'd see the packers -3. This game comes down to a fg, write it down. I'll happily take the bonus 2 points the public is throwing me.
 
As far as the total goes I feel like it could really go either way, if the public keeps pounding it up I might swing on the under, but I like the Packers +5 much more.
 
If half of you pulled your heads out of your asses and actually did your own research instead of just watching ESPN you'd be a lot better off.
 
On a side note, thanks HappyKane for the postings. I enjoy them, keep up the good work.
 
 
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Taking the points and the over in what should be a close game, down to the wire with Pack salivating at the thought of knocking Favre down and out.Not a good week following last week's $$$ but far from down and out which brings to mind...
 
                   Where Art Thou " KRAUSE"  ?

                            

            Would being  0 and  2 in the last three weeks
Have anything to do with your non existent, absent minded picks ?
   
                              LOL
     ( Still love you baby...You're uniquely precious to this forum)

                  

 
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Quote Originally Posted by spacemoose:

Had an awsome day yesterday, even tho I think this a bit degenerate of me, I am going with the Packs ML..
 
GL
 
 
 
Great work and Great Tits ...Keep it up !
                                  
 
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After a sweet 3-0 NFL Sunday I am going with the following:
 
Green Bay Packers +190 ML
Green Bay Packers/Minny Vikings UNDER 46.5
 
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Posted: #96
Vikings -4.5 and Over 46 GL!
 
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Over is the square play of the night.  In a largely hyped game of this caliber, the only way to go is under.
 
UNDER 47
 
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Well, here's my take on the game sans the goofy ratings i've transcribed.
 
Sometimes the player ratings gives me a good read on certain games. MNF seems to be the hardest to decipher sometimes. Not everything is in place, meaning -- a certain team have to suck for the other team to dominate, sometimes in both aspects of the game; either the key offensive players will suck or that team's defense will suck.. For example, the Chargers/Steelers game on Sunday night where the Steelers dominated on offense and defense.
 
Last night i made a thread heading that read: "The Steelers are winning this one for sure" based on these quarterback ratings:
 
Philip Rivers B-/C+
Ben Roethlisberger B+
 
Yes, folks. Sometimes its that easy. All i had to do was fade the quarterback whom i think will not perform well and i've found my winner. Last night, was not a good night to back Philip Rivers.
 
But tonight's QB ratings doesnt' tell me anything. Do i fade the protege or the master?
 
Aaron Rodgers A+
Brett Favre C+
 
Neither marks is better than the other according to my experience monitoring my grading system. These are good grades, meaning both QB's will be sharp tonight. So, in essence, this could be a good spot to take the Over; besides the heavy affluence of high scoring games for MNF.
 
My rating system aside, back in my fledgling days before i learned how to read biorhythm and astrology charts, my praxis for picking winners for primetime games was simply -- look towards backing the home team first. Simply put, its just damn tough to play on the road.
 
Its my belief that the Metrodome is one of the toughest and loudest place to play besides the Seahawk's Qwest Field. The crowd is crazy like any other stadium but all the raucousness comes with full acoustic architecture, a plethora of strategically placed PA's (speakers), and a Viking horn.
 
Given this venue and a legend like Brett Favre for primetime coverage, i will add extra importance of home-field advantage for this game.
 
Since i can't get a read on what quarterback i should fade, my next step is looking at each QB's supporting cast. That would be the QB's weapons -- the RB's and receivers. But for this matchup, i glanced beyond that and picked on what i think will be the key factor for tonight: the O-Lines.
 
I asked these questions:
 
1) Can the Packers O-Line protect Aaron Rodgers?
 
Answer: Yes, but not w/o lots of problems. The Vikings defense is amongst the top 5 and they have bonafide sack-masters at both ends; noticeably a dude named Jared Allen. Ray Edwards also have 2 sacks to match Jared Allen's.
 
Looking at these ratings, i really think the Packers O-Line will have trouble containing the Williams sisters and the DE's.
 
RT C- Allen Barbre; RG B- Josh Sitton; C C- Jason Spitz; LG B-/C+ T.J. Lang; LT C+ Daryn Colledge
 
Bad rating for Babre, low bio reading for Sitton, likewise bad rating for the center Spitz. And the Packers will be subbing 2 new left-guards tonight. Daryn Colledge looks fine with a slightly above average rating.
 
And now i take a look at Aaron Rodgers' offensive weapons.
 
RB C Ryan Grant; FB C- John Kuhn; WR C- Donald Driver; WR C- Greg Jennings; WR C-/D- Jordy Nelson; WR B+ James Jones; TE B+ Donald Lee; TE C- Jermichael Finley
 
Looks like it'll be a dull night for the Packers offense.
 
The Under/Over for Ryan Grant's rushing yards tonight is set at over 66½ +105, under under 66½ -135.
 
Thats A LOT of juice for the Under. I'll take that Under.
 
Well thats pretty much all i need to know to support my theory for taking the home team on Monday nights. Aaron Rodgers could be sharp today; but it takes more than 1 person to complete a play. If his receivers aren't making the catches... he isn't throwing completions. And if Ryan Grant isn't running well, that will limit the passing game.
 
If i take a look at the otherside, the Vikings' offense against the Packers defense, i might find reasons to contradict my theory. So, to keep it shorter than sweet...
 
My pick: Minnesota Vikings -3.5
 
And here is why i don't like the Over tonight even though there are strong trends for Overs on MNF. Reason: one team might not score enough.
 
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HappyKane:  If you don't mind me asking how do you come up with the grade for each position? I have read your postings for a while now and think they have a lot of merit but never really understood the process. Let me know and if not that is fine to.  Thanks
 
 
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Minnesota - 24                      Green Bay - 17
Vikings -4.5                         under 46
Pack has a decent Monday night record, but its hard to go against the Vikes in this one.  Ill take my chances on the home favs to gut out another win....I'll start fading Favre after game 8...GLTA.
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