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    Green Bay at Chicago (12/16/2012)

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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2012 - 11:59 PM ET #1

    Away:  Green Bay [7-6 ATS]
    Home:  Chicago [6-7 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Soldier Field

    Recent Meetings:
    09/13/12 - CHI 10 vs. GB 23

    Team Leaders:

    Green Bay:
    Passing: Aaron Rodgers (3297)
    Rushing: Alex Green (429)
    Receiving: Randall Cobb (777)

    Chicago:
    Passing: Jay Cutler (2495)
    Rushing: Matt Forte (834)
    Receiving: Brandon Marshall (1342)

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    Away:  Green Bay [7-6 ATS]
    Home:  Chicago [6-7 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Soldier Field

    Recent Meetings:
    09/13/12 - CHI 10 vs. GB 23

    Team Leaders:

    Green Bay:
    Passing: Aaron Rodgers (3297)
    Rushing: Alex Green (429)
    Receiving: Randall Cobb (777)

    Chicago:
    Passing: Jay Cutler (2495)
    Rushing: Matt Forte (834)
    Receiving: Brandon Marshall (1342)

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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2012 - 12:33 AM ET #2

    CHICAGO

    YTD: 80-58-1 (58.0%)

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    CHICAGO

    YTD: 80-58-1 (58.0%)

     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2012 - 1:17 AM ET #3

    Greenbay has their running game going which will open up other possibilities. Greenbay already trashed Chicago earlier in the year. This is a gift at anything under 6.

     

    Greenbay always always  wins chicago, I think Mccarthy has luvies number.

    So, I love this game as Greenbay is still fighting for playoff positioning.

     

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    Greenbay has their running game going which will open up other possibilities. Greenbay already trashed Chicago earlier in the year. This is a gift at anything under 6.

     

    Greenbay always always  wins chicago, I think Mccarthy has luvies number.

    So, I love this game as Greenbay is still fighting for playoff positioning.

     

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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2012 - 10:35 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by shochuman:

    CHICAGO

    YTD: 80-58-1 (58.0%)

    Da Bears +3

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    Quote Originally Posted by shochuman:

    CHICAGO

    YTD: 80-58-1 (58.0%)

    Da Bears +3

     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2012 - 12:01 PM ET #5

    I love this matchup every year.  While i'm not as confident as some, I like GB-3
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    I love this matchup every year.  While i'm not as confident as some, I like GB-3
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2012 - 9:04 AM ET #6

    9 out of 10 times the game between these 2 teams has stayed under.  GB is getting back Woodson and Matthews back so this will help their defense.  Cutler is banged up and may get hurt again in this game. 

    I like the UNDER for this game like I do KC. 

    If the weather is good, then defense can step up.  If ugly is bad, that's good because it'll help keep scoring down too.  Either way it's a win-win.

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    9 out of 10 times the game between these 2 teams has stayed under.  GB is getting back Woodson and Matthews back so this will help their defense.  Cutler is banged up and may get hurt again in this game. 

    I like the UNDER for this game like I do KC. 

    If the weather is good, then defense can step up.  If ugly is bad, that's good because it'll help keep scoring down too.  Either way it's a win-win.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2012 - 9:07 AM ET #7

    Oh, yeah I hate GB's new "offensive scheme".  Don't know why they're trying to fix something that was NEVER broken in the first place.  15-1 with no running game.  Now they fight to make the playoffs when they try to establish a run first mindset which obviously only helps the UNDER.  

    Since Cutler is banged up, Forte will also get more work too in order to alleviate pressure off Cutler.    Run games normally like to stay under rather than go over.
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    Oh, yeah I hate GB's new "offensive scheme".  Don't know why they're trying to fix something that was NEVER broken in the first place.  15-1 with no running game.  Now they fight to make the playoffs when they try to establish a run first mindset which obviously only helps the UNDER.  

    Since Cutler is banged up, Forte will also get more work too in order to alleviate pressure off Cutler.    Run games normally like to stay under rather than go over.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2012 - 7:20 PM ET #8

    Defensive playmakers return for the Pack.  Comfortably taking GB - 3.  Lovie Smith doesn't deserve the axe at the end of this season.  That's how the NFL works tho.  If your team doesn't make it to January, blame the coach.  Unless you're in San Diego.  Then you lock him up for 4 years.  Even the Chargers will own up to that mistake now.
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    Defensive playmakers return for the Pack.  Comfortably taking GB - 3.  Lovie Smith doesn't deserve the axe at the end of this season.  That's how the NFL works tho.  If your team doesn't make it to January, blame the coach.  Unless you're in San Diego.  Then you lock him up for 4 years.  Even the Chargers will own up to that mistake now.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2012 - 7:58 PM ET #9

    i will be at this game an its going to be cold!!!!!! leaving fri morning an only reason iam going to this game to see the BEARS win this in rev. home game should be a good one BEARS WINS OUT RIGHT IN THIS ONE
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    i will be at this game an its going to be cold!!!!!! leaving fri morning an only reason iam going to this game to see the BEARS win this in rev. home game should be a good one BEARS WINS OUT RIGHT IN THIS ONE
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2012 - 8:20 PM ET #10

    Cheese head plus under...
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    Cheese head plus under...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2012 - 9:25 PM ET #11

      This is a game that will go a long way in determining who wins the  NFC North. While Chicago has lost 4 of their last 5 , they stand only one game behind GB. It is a matchup between the superior GB offense & the superior Bear defense. The Chicago defense was shown vulnerable to the run last week, but GB has nothing close to A.P. I see a very closely fought contest. See da Bears gutting out a tight win, in this spot.

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      This is a game that will go a long way in determining who wins the  NFC North. While Chicago has lost 4 of their last 5 , they stand only one game behind GB. It is a matchup between the superior GB offense & the superior Bear defense. The Chicago defense was shown vulnerable to the run last week, but GB has nothing close to A.P. I see a very closely fought contest. See da Bears gutting out a tight win, in this spot.

    CHICAGO   + 3

     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2012 - 12:00 AM ET #12

    BEARS BY A LANDSLIDE SORRY RODGERS DISCOUNT DOUBLECHECK

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    BEARS BY A LANDSLIDE SORRY RODGERS DISCOUNT DOUBLECHECK

     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2012 - 1:30 AM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by Xyberz:

    9 out of 10 times the game between these 2 teams has stayed under.  GB is getting back Woodson and Matthews back so this will help their defense.  Cutler is banged up and may get hurt again in this game. 

    I like the UNDER for this game like I do KC. 

    If the weather is good, then defense can step up.  If ugly is bad, that's good because it'll help keep scoring down too.  Either way it's a win-win.

    I agree Green Bay will win but Woodson has been ruled out for the game
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyberz:

    9 out of 10 times the game between these 2 teams has stayed under.  GB is getting back Woodson and Matthews back so this will help their defense.  Cutler is banged up and may get hurt again in this game. 

    I like the UNDER for this game like I do KC. 

    If the weather is good, then defense can step up.  If ugly is bad, that's good because it'll help keep scoring down too.  Either way it's a win-win.

    I agree Green Bay will win but Woodson has been ruled out for the game
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2012 - 4:20 AM ET #14

    The Green Packers will cover, and the under will come through!!  The Bears are highly overrated, and don't forget the game that was stolen from Green Bay.  Lovie Smith can't coach PeeWee football, but he's cheap, and the Bears won't spend the $$ to get a quality coach.
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    The Green Packers will cover, and the under will come through!!  The Bears are highly overrated, and don't forget the game that was stolen from Green Bay.  Lovie Smith can't coach PeeWee football, but he's cheap, and the Bears won't spend the $$ to get a quality coach.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2012 - 12:20 PM ET #15

    Strangely enough, this line reminds me of the Bears game from last week. The Bears were -3 on the road and ended up losing to their division rival Vikings. Will the Packers suffer the same fate this week?

    The last time these teams squared off, Cutler had a game he would like to forget, throwing 4 interceptions and getting sacked 7 times. Clay Matthews proved himself to be virtually unblockable by the Bears struggling offensive line, and as a result, Cutler had an awful game too. I think this matchup will be key to determing the result of this game. Will Clay Mattews be a 100% this week after missing a month of football? Will the Bears learn from their mistakes and use more 3 step drops and max protection looks for Cutler? Will the Bears attack the Packers achilles heal and RUN THE BALL down their throats? I am just not sure how will this will play out. 

    I don't trust Cutler enough to carry this team. If theres one thing I'm certain of, its that Jay Cutler is going to target Brandon Marshall, and he is going to do it a lot. The Bears offense is not quite rocket science, and thats why I could see Cutler getting picked off atleast once this Sunday. The Packers on the other end have the well-oiled machine known as Aaron Rodgers, who I know will spread the ball around. While their running game leaves a lot to be desired, they did run the ball more effectively against Detroit last week (racking up over a 100 yards on the ground). 

    While the Packers don't need to run the ball to put up points, they do need to run it better protect Aaron Rodgers who has also taken a beaten this season.

    Either way, I think the Bears defense isn't really that much more complex than their offense.They primarily play the cover 2, and will probably have nothing new to show Aaron Rodgers who has dominated this matchup. The Pack have won the last 5 of this matchup and they have won convincingly...the last 5 have been won by an average of 10.2 points a game. 
        
    Also, this may not sound like a big deal, but keep in mind the injuries suffered by the Bears special teams. Robbie Gould is out, and in a divisional rivalry game like this, those field goals can often be the diffenence between winning and losing (covering or pushing). Missed field goals are also great momentum builders for opposing team's offenses. The Bears will have to rely on veteran kicker Olindo Mare who won a try-out this week.  The Bears also lost two special teams coverage players in Steltz and McManis. I wouldn't be surprised if Randall Cobb showed us his own Devin Hester impersonation this week, and takes one to the house.  

    Good Luck Fellas.  Going Joe Public here and taking the CHEESEHEADS!!!     


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    Strangely enough, this line reminds me of the Bears game from last week. The Bears were -3 on the road and ended up losing to their division rival Vikings. Will the Packers suffer the same fate this week?

    The last time these teams squared off, Cutler had a game he would like to forget, throwing 4 interceptions and getting sacked 7 times. Clay Matthews proved himself to be virtually unblockable by the Bears struggling offensive line, and as a result, Cutler had an awful game too. I think this matchup will be key to determing the result of this game. Will Clay Mattews be a 100% this week after missing a month of football? Will the Bears learn from their mistakes and use more 3 step drops and max protection looks for Cutler? Will the Bears attack the Packers achilles heal and RUN THE BALL down their throats? I am just not sure how will this will play out. 

    I don't trust Cutler enough to carry this team. If theres one thing I'm certain of, its that Jay Cutler is going to target Brandon Marshall, and he is going to do it a lot. The Bears offense is not quite rocket science, and thats why I could see Cutler getting picked off atleast once this Sunday. The Packers on the other end have the well-oiled machine known as Aaron Rodgers, who I know will spread the ball around. While their running game leaves a lot to be desired, they did run the ball more effectively against Detroit last week (racking up over a 100 yards on the ground). 

    While the Packers don't need to run the ball to put up points, they do need to run it better protect Aaron Rodgers who has also taken a beaten this season.

    Either way, I think the Bears defense isn't really that much more complex than their offense.They primarily play the cover 2, and will probably have nothing new to show Aaron Rodgers who has dominated this matchup. The Pack have won the last 5 of this matchup and they have won convincingly...the last 5 have been won by an average of 10.2 points a game. 
        
    Also, this may not sound like a big deal, but keep in mind the injuries suffered by the Bears special teams. Robbie Gould is out, and in a divisional rivalry game like this, those field goals can often be the diffenence between winning and losing (covering or pushing). Missed field goals are also great momentum builders for opposing team's offenses. The Bears will have to rely on veteran kicker Olindo Mare who won a try-out this week.  The Bears also lost two special teams coverage players in Steltz and McManis. I wouldn't be surprised if Randall Cobb showed us his own Devin Hester impersonation this week, and takes one to the house.  

    Good Luck Fellas.  Going Joe Public here and taking the CHEESEHEADS!!!     


     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2012 - 1:10 PM ET #16

    Cicago +3. Give me the home dog!
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    Cicago +3. Give me the home dog!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2012 - 2:25 PM ET #17

    The Bears will need a different scheme than the the last time these teams met. Double and triple teaming Marshall shouldn't work again, other players must step up as they will have one on one coverage all day since Green Bay fears what Marshall can do. Matt Forte has to get it in gear again. They will also have to do more than bring four linemen. Disguise their blitzes well, get Rodgers rattled and picks will happen. The Bears can win this game if they want to. Look for Jeffery and Hester to have big days. 
    Chicago 23-20
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    The Bears will need a different scheme than the the last time these teams met. Double and triple teaming Marshall shouldn't work again, other players must step up as they will have one on one coverage all day since Green Bay fears what Marshall can do. Matt Forte has to get it in gear again. They will also have to do more than bring four linemen. Disguise their blitzes well, get Rodgers rattled and picks will happen. The Bears can win this game if they want to. Look for Jeffery and Hester to have big days. 
    Chicago 23-20
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2012 - 6:53 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

      This is a game that will go a long way in determining who wins the  NFC North. While Chicago has lost 4 of their last 5 , they stand only one game behind GB. It is a matchup between the superior GB offense & the superior Bear defense. The Chicago defense was shown vulnerable to the run last week, but GB has nothing close to A.P. I see a very closely fought contest. See da Bears gutting out a tight win, in this spot.

    CHICAGO   + 3

    BOOM!!!!

    It's at Soldier Field, I'm taking the home dogs...........

    If it was at Lambeau, I'd be betting it the other way..........

    Bears Plus The Three.................

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    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

      This is a game that will go a long way in determining who wins the  NFC North. While Chicago has lost 4 of their last 5 , they stand only one game behind GB. It is a matchup between the superior GB offense & the superior Bear defense. The Chicago defense was shown vulnerable to the run last week, but GB has nothing close to A.P. I see a very closely fought contest. See da Bears gutting out a tight win, in this spot.

    CHICAGO   + 3

    BOOM!!!!

    It's at Soldier Field, I'm taking the home dogs...........

    If it was at Lambeau, I'd be betting it the other way..........

    Bears Plus The Three.................

     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2012 - 7:19 PM ET #19

    The Bears are FRAUDS!

    They beat up on the bottom feeders, but can't beat a team that's playoff bound.  If they can step up and get themselves a statement win I might change my viewpoint on them, but right now they are nothing but a fraudulent team in my eyes. 

    Their wins = colts (week 1), rams, cowboys, jaguars, lions, panthers, titans, Vikings (home)

    Their loses = packers, texans, 49ers, Seahawks, Vikings (away)

    I don't see a good win anywhere. 

    The bears come in to this one losing 4 of their last 5. Green Bay has owned this series in recent years winning the last 5 and 7 of the last 8 dating back to 2009 (covering 6 of those 8). I don't see any reason why things would change now. 

    Backing the packers (LARGE) and will continue to fade the fraudulent bears against quality opponents until they prove otherwise.  GL
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    The Bears are FRAUDS!

    They beat up on the bottom feeders, but can't beat a team that's playoff bound.  If they can step up and get themselves a statement win I might change my viewpoint on them, but right now they are nothing but a fraudulent team in my eyes. 

    Their wins = colts (week 1), rams, cowboys, jaguars, lions, panthers, titans, Vikings (home)

    Their loses = packers, texans, 49ers, Seahawks, Vikings (away)

    I don't see a good win anywhere. 

    The bears come in to this one losing 4 of their last 5. Green Bay has owned this series in recent years winning the last 5 and 7 of the last 8 dating back to 2009 (covering 6 of those 8). I don't see any reason why things would change now. 

    Backing the packers (LARGE) and will continue to fade the fraudulent bears against quality opponents until they prove otherwise.  GL
     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2012 - 12:14 AM ET #20

    One angle on this game I would be cautious of is GB can split their series with the Bears and move them up in the division without fear of being beaten because the pack are 4-0 in the division tiebreaker.  In other words the Pack are free to lose which would explain why they're only favored by 3 and no movement on the line.  At the least they've already got a wild card with Tennesse next week.

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    One angle on this game I would be cautious of is GB can split their series with the Bears and move them up in the division without fear of being beaten because the pack are 4-0 in the division tiebreaker.  In other words the Pack are free to lose which would explain why they're only favored by 3 and no movement on the line.  At the least they've already got a wild card with Tennesse next week.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2012 - 3:03 AM ET #21

    under is the play
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    under is the play
     
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    GB and the OVER. Green Bay will try and prove to the NFC North that they are a dominate team here and will probably score 30+ points. I like it that Bears are banged up, the line will move. GL to everyone!
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    GB and the OVER. Green Bay will try and prove to the NFC North that they are a dominate team here and will probably score 30+ points. I like it that Bears are banged up, the line will move. GL to everyone!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2012 - 9:26 AM ET #23

    Two teams going in opposite directions. Gbay slow start now playing more solid. Chic starting to spiral downward in last part of the season. Not playing together. Team is not the same without urlacher. Cutler beat up. Line will go to 4. Take it. Gbay for the large. Not a lot of overs between these guys so ehh...
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    Two teams going in opposite directions. Gbay slow start now playing more solid. Chic starting to spiral downward in last part of the season. Not playing together. Team is not the same without urlacher. Cutler beat up. Line will go to 4. Take it. Gbay for the large. Not a lot of overs between these guys so ehh...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2012 - 1:12 PM ET #24

    The character of the the Packers is blossoming and are tracing the footsteps of 2010.

    Packers!!!

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    The character of the the Packers is blossoming and are tracing the footsteps of 2010.

    Packers!!!

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2012 - 2:45 PM ET #25

    The Packers are in for a fight! Da Bears
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    The Packers are in for a fight! Da Bears
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