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Detroit at Houston (10/19/2008)

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Away:  Detroit [1-4 ATS]
Home:  Houston [1-4 ATS]

Game Time: 4:05 PM
Stadium: Reliant Stadium

Recent Meetings:
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Team Leaders:

Detroit:
Passing: Jon Kitna (758)
Rushing: Kevin Smith (195)
Receiving: Calvin Johnson (377)

Houston:
Passing: Matt Schaub (1076)
Rushing: Steve Slaton (343)
Receiving: Andre Johnson (488)

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a big # for texans    
 
 
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I'll take Det.+9.  I backed out of my Det. bet last week and took Minn last minute but that won't happen this week  
I know Kitna is questionable, but besides Orlavsky bone head play when he took the safety  he actually impressed me with his first start.
 
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Questionable ???? Hes out for the year buddy.
 
No more Roy Williams either.
 
Houston -8
 
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Detroit just showed that they packed it up for the year and are now going for the number 1 draft pick. Houston HUGE. Houston by atleast 30.
 
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atlantasports I was not aware...he is listed as questionable on the covers injury report...I don't know how up to date that is. 
 
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You've got a Detroit team that started 0-4 ATS and finally broke their streak last week.  I look for them to cover again the week.  I've found that if a team break a streak of 4+ consecutive losses ATS, they'll usually cover the following week too.  For that matter, I'm on St. Louis too. 
 
Alot of points for a Houston team to lay, I don't care who they're playing.
 
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Lots of points for Texans to cover
 
 
Think ill stay away from this one
 
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Hou Big.  Who has Det played? @Atl (Rookie QB), GB (1st year starter), @SF (OSullivan, WTF), Chi (1st year starter), @Minn (Gus??). This is the first team Det is facing with a proven QB and a pro-bowl receiver (except for GB receivers).

On the other hand, Hou has played Pitt, TEnn, and Jag on the road and Ind and Mia at home.  They were all playoff teams (except u know who) and Mia with new coaching and Big Tuna has been playing out of their minds.

Det only out passed Atl by 60 yards but was -250 yds in rushing in that game.  In all other gamesm they were out rushed and out passed.  This game is going to be a slaughter.

On top of all that they lost Roy?  Simulation shows Hou by 10, but line a little skewed (I think) due to Det stopping AD and covering against Minn. With the Roy trade, Det has givien up on this season.

Hou has a decent D and I think they finally got the moneky off their backs with a win agaisnt Mia (FYI,  I picked Hou -3 in that game, I under-rating Mia due to last year's record, even though they are my favorite pro team).  I think Hou is ready for a statement game and Det is just the team to let them make it.

Hou +3 units. GLTA
 
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The only aspect of this I do not like is the fact that 67% of public money is on Hou.  I hate following the crowd, but the line -8.5 as of this writing, is high enough that its not a trap game.
 
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 Hurry hurry! Bleeeeeenk! Get rid of the feedback! Are we ok? Ready? Alright. Watch! Could you give us a few minutes of your time?
 
Rosie! How can i help you my man?
 
 What are your feelings on this game between the Lions and the Texans?
 
No.
 
 
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Houston should not be laying this many points to any team. 
 
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Taking a small shot at Det ML.
Det can't lose every game... can they???!!?!?!  They came oh so close last week, this week is a good situation against a team that may have bit of a letdown after getting their first win.
 
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Det ML (small)
 
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Houston should have 2 wins. They blew a 21 point 4th quarter lead against the Colts.
 
I think Houston will win 38-17
 
Who is stopping Andre Johnson ?
 
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was thinking about the under 47 time here....
 
Detroit is a mess, and it should show on the offensive side of the ball. I know they have no D, but thinking if they kept the texans to 24 - 30, i don't see Detroit getting past 17 points.
 
Houston's Defense wasn't that bad on paper last year. But how good do you have to  be to stop the Lions now?
 
 Too bad they've allowed 158 this year. Also the resurgence on "take that Schaub and shove it" i'm worried about
 
gonna look into it some more
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Mighty_Mo:

You've got a Detroit team that started 0-4 ATS and finally broke their streak last week.  I look for them to cover again the week.  I've found that if a team break a streak of 4+ consecutive losses ATS, they'll usually cover the following week too.  For that matter, I'm on St. Louis too. 
 
Alot of points for a Houston team to lay, I don't care who they're playing.

Not so fast my friend!
 
2000-2001 ..Detroit followed their win with yet another ATS win
 
2001-2002 ...N/A
 
2002-2003...After their win ATS @ Chicago,the Lions followed that with a loss @ New England 12-20 ( + 6 )
 
2003-2004 ... N/A
 
2004-2005... After their win ATS @ minnesota , the Lions followed that with a loss @ Indianapolis 9-41 ( + 9.5 )
 
2005-2006 ...After their win ATS @ Green Bay , the Lions followed that with a loss 17-41 @ Cincinnati ( + 10 )
 
2006-2007 ...After their win ATS vs Buffalo , the Detroit Lions followed that with a loss @ NY Jets 24-31 ( +4 )
Same year ...After their win ATS @ New England , the Lions followed that with a loss vs Minnesota 20-30 ( -1 )
 
2007-2008...After their win ATS vs Dallas , the Lions followed that with a loss @ San Diego 14-51 ( + 10 )
 
2008-2009 ...After their win ATS @ Minnesota , the Detroit Lions are playing @ Houston getting 8.5 to 10 points
 
So , Only once have the Detroit Lions been able to put 2 consecutive ATS victories on the heel of an ATS losing streak of 3 or more ...and that was in the year 2000
 
Detroit is 1-6 ATS following an ATS win ( that broke a 3 or more ATS loss ) since 2000 & 0-6 ATS since 2001 .
 
The combined score for these 6 losses is 96 - 214 averaging 16 points in favor vs 35.7 points for the opposition
 
Interestingly , 5 of those ATS losses were against an AFC team .
They will be facing Houston this week .
 
 
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Steve Slaton
2 TD

Matt Schaub
3 TD

Detroit
2 TD
 
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The line is now at 9.5.  the books are not standing firm on their original line = Not a trap line.  I like my bet at 8.5, not that its going to matter.  If Houston covers I think they cover the 9.5 too.  IF not, then 8.5 is dead too.

As always, GLTA
 
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Quote Originally Posted by CalBear:

I'll take Det.+9.  I backed out of my Det. bet last week and took Minn last minute but that won't happen this week  
I know Kitna is questionable, but besides Orlavsky bone head play when he took the safety  he actually impressed me with his first start.

Check out this interesting trend I found in a thread that has me second guessing: the record of Underdogs of more than 7 ( the game following their loss by <= 3 ) . These dogs went 1-11 ATS in 2007
 
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Beware of the underdog in week 7 of the NFL.  Every year the dogs bite in week 7. Youve been warned!
 
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The Lions probably played one of their best games of the year last week, and it still wasn't impressive. They should have beat Minnesota the way the Vikings played. On the other hand, Houston is a 1 win team (barely) giving almost 10 points? That doesn't add up for me. They will get the win, but I think the Lions (even with nothing to play for) keep it closer than 10. Watch the line up until game time to see if it sneaks up over 10. Right now about 56% of the public is on Houston. If it does get over 10 I'd jump on it. If not I would probably buy a 1/2 point to make it 10.


Lions +10
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by atlantasports:

Questionable ???? Hes out for the year buddy.
 
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Houston at home, all the way
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