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    Denver at Cleveland (11/06/2008)

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    Mr_Covers
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2008 - 12:43 AM ET #1

    Away:  Denver [1-6-1 ATS]
    Home:  Cleveland [5-3 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:15 PM
    Stadium: Cleveland Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Denver:
    Passing: Jay Cutler (2168)
    Rushing: Michael Pittman (321)
    Receiving: Brandon Marshall (625)

    Cleveland:
    Passing: Derek Anderson (1454)
    Rushing: Jamal Lewis (533)
    Receiving: Braylon Edwards (457)

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    Away:  Denver [1-6-1 ATS]
    Home:  Cleveland [5-3 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:15 PM
    Stadium: Cleveland Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Denver:
    Passing: Jay Cutler (2168)
    Rushing: Michael Pittman (321)
    Receiving: Brandon Marshall (625)

    Cleveland:
    Passing: Derek Anderson (1454)
    Rushing: Jamal Lewis (533)
    Receiving: Braylon Edwards (457)

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    moorebe
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2008 - 7:52 PM ET #2

     Brady Quinn is going to start this game.
     
    Should we jump on this line before it moves???.
     
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     Brady Quinn is going to start this game.
     
    Should we jump on this line before it moves???.
     
     
    LetsEat
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2008 - 2:36 AM ET #3

    Man the way Denver offence look the Browns MIGHT be the pick... Culter didnt look good this pass Sunday.... Plus there D is
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    Man the way Denver offence look the Browns MIGHT be the pick... Culter didnt look good this pass Sunday.... Plus there D is
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2008 - 10:45 AM ET #4

    CLEVELAND!!!   QUINN?   "now i'm done"
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    CLEVELAND!!!   QUINN?   "now i'm done"
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2008 - 11:35 AM ET #5

    Have you not seen how big Quinn looks? With the crowd cheering for him, he is going to come out gunning. Shaun Rogers is going to give Cutler a couple nice bear hugs. I like the Browns at -3.
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    Have you not seen how big Quinn looks? With the crowd cheering for him, he is going to come out gunning. Shaun Rogers is going to give Cutler a couple nice bear hugs. I like the Browns at -3.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2008 - 11:41 AM ET #6

    I like what I heard on the radio the other day.  They are now known as the Enver Bronco's, because there is no "D" in Denver.  No D, Cutler ain't right, offense is a mess, why would you even think of picking Enver.  Go Browns and Quinn
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    I like what I heard on the radio the other day.  They are now known as the Enver Bronco's, because there is no "D" in Denver.  No D, Cutler ain't right, offense is a mess, why would you even think of picking Enver.  Go Browns and Quinn
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2008 - 1:32 PM ET #7

    Browns all day long
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    Browns all day long
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2008 - 1:58 PM ET #8

    The Broncos need to win in order to keep SD out of the picture.  I love the Broncos in this one.  I expect to Derek Anderson to have a long game!
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    The Broncos need to win in order to keep SD out of the picture.  I love the Broncos in this one.  I expect to Derek Anderson to have a long game!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2008 - 1:59 PM ET #9

    [Quote: Originally Posted by kurylyk99]
    The Broncos need to win in order to keep SD out of the picture.  I love the Broncos in this one.  I expect to Derek Anderson to have a long game!
     
    I expect to SEE....sorry about the typo guys
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by kurylyk99]
    The Broncos need to win in order to keep SD out of the picture.  I love the Broncos in this one.  I expect to Derek Anderson to have a long game!
     
    I expect to SEE....sorry about the typo guys
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2008 - 3:03 PM ET #10

    I can't see the broncos staying this bad for much longer... plus quinn's first game isn't gonna go well... that's why the browns are a losing franchise, knee-jerk moves like that.  Even if quinn doesn't have a rocky first game, edwards should drop enough passes to keep the broncos in this one.  I just think that too many people will be fading the broncos here and i'm too much of a degenerate to just leave this game alone, so i'm on the broncos to stop blowing it... i don't think the brown's D is quite as threatening as the dolphins (as weird as that sounds)

    DEN +3
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    I can't see the broncos staying this bad for much longer... plus quinn's first game isn't gonna go well... that's why the browns are a losing franchise, knee-jerk moves like that.  Even if quinn doesn't have a rocky first game, edwards should drop enough passes to keep the broncos in this one.  I just think that too many people will be fading the broncos here and i'm too much of a degenerate to just leave this game alone, so i'm on the broncos to stop blowing it... i don't think the brown's D is quite as threatening as the dolphins (as weird as that sounds)

    DEN +3
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2008 - 3:06 PM ET #11

    plus the broncos are 1-6-1 ATS so fading them is too easy
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    plus the broncos are 1-6-1 ATS so fading them is too easy
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2008 - 3:21 PM ET #12

    As a life long Browns fan  I like the Browns and here are my facts Browns look good 1 game  bad the next look at the past 4 games looked good vs Giants bad vs Redskins good vs Jags bad vs ravens time to look good again, only question is the QB change Quinn diddnt have a bad presaeson and should be ok vs Denver expect denver to blitz alot  winslow and edwards(butter fingers) to have big games take the Browns -3 I am
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    As a life long Browns fan  I like the Browns and here are my facts Browns look good 1 game  bad the next look at the past 4 games looked good vs Giants bad vs Redskins good vs Jags bad vs ravens time to look good again, only question is the QB change Quinn diddnt have a bad presaeson and should be ok vs Denver expect denver to blitz alot  winslow and edwards(butter fingers) to have big games take the Browns -3 I am
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2008 - 3:47 PM ET #13

    Oh and I forgot the most important part  FIRE ROMEO
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    Oh and I forgot the most important part  FIRE ROMEO
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2008 - 3:54 PM ET #14

    browns with brady
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    browns with brady
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2008 - 4:47 PM ET #15

    DENVER +3.5 & ML +152
     
    GO RYAN TORAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
     
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    DENVER +3.5 & ML +152
     
    GO RYAN TORAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2008 - 7:22 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by pugman40:

    Oh and I forgot the most important part  FIRE ROMEO


    I often wonder how that guy still has a job.  Who in the hell does he have naked pictures of?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pugman40:

    Oh and I forgot the most important part  FIRE ROMEO


    I often wonder how that guy still has a job.  Who in the hell does he have naked pictures of?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2008 - 7:29 PM ET #17

    Can't really see a logical reason to take either side here.  Quinn will be starting his first NFL game and I don't care what anyone says, he will be nervous as hell.  That being said, he may also give the Browns a needed boost of confidence and optimism.  But the only way Cleveland covers here is if the WHOLE team plays better. QB doesn't matter when good passes get dropped.  On the flip side, Cleveland's D has actually been pretty good.  With the exception of two big losses to Baltimore (of all the teams to get blown out by) they have kept opponents under 20 points in every game (or almost every game, too lazy to look it up right now).  Cutler and the Broncos offense is a mess anyway, so the Browns D may be able to sit around sipping Pina Coladas and still shut down Denver.  So as I'm typing this, I think I went from sitting on the fence to being on the Browns here.  But either way, I say go BIG on the under because this could very well end up ending 3-0 in overtime.  Anyway, that is my initial read.  Not locking anything up at this point, but can't see anything getting me off of the under before Thursday short of a burning bush.
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    Can't really see a logical reason to take either side here.  Quinn will be starting his first NFL game and I don't care what anyone says, he will be nervous as hell.  That being said, he may also give the Browns a needed boost of confidence and optimism.  But the only way Cleveland covers here is if the WHOLE team plays better. QB doesn't matter when good passes get dropped.  On the flip side, Cleveland's D has actually been pretty good.  With the exception of two big losses to Baltimore (of all the teams to get blown out by) they have kept opponents under 20 points in every game (or almost every game, too lazy to look it up right now).  Cutler and the Broncos offense is a mess anyway, so the Browns D may be able to sit around sipping Pina Coladas and still shut down Denver.  So as I'm typing this, I think I went from sitting on the fence to being on the Browns here.  But either way, I say go BIG on the under because this could very well end up ending 3-0 in overtime.  Anyway, that is my initial read.  Not locking anything up at this point, but can't see anything getting me off of the under before Thursday short of a burning bush.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2008 - 7:31 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by tonktime:

    CLEVELAND!!!   QUINN?   "now i'm done"


    Is that a good thing or a bad thing in your estimation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonktime:

    CLEVELAND!!!   QUINN?   "now i'm done"


    Is that a good thing or a bad thing in your estimation?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2008 - 8:00 PM ET #19

    If this stinker was on Sunday I wouldn't even bet it!
     
    I agree with SuckerBet77 for liking the Under 46.  Both teams are a mess right now.
     
    Also, The Broncos placed running backs Michael Pittman and Andre Hall on injured reserve, depleting an already thin backfield.
    Selvin Young has missed the last three weeks with a groin injury, leaving rookie Ryan Torain as the only relatively healthy running back on the roster.
     
    The QB change is dumb because the only time you change QB is when the entire team is good and the QB is blowing games which isn't the case for the Browns.  The Browns problems are far from all Anderson's
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    If this stinker was on Sunday I wouldn't even bet it!
     
    I agree with SuckerBet77 for liking the Under 46.  Both teams are a mess right now.
     
    Also, The Broncos placed running backs Michael Pittman and Andre Hall on injured reserve, depleting an already thin backfield.
    Selvin Young has missed the last three weeks with a groin injury, leaving rookie Ryan Torain as the only relatively healthy running back on the roster.
     
    The QB change is dumb because the only time you change QB is when the entire team is good and the QB is blowing games which isn't the case for the Browns.  The Browns problems are far from all Anderson's
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2008 - 9:08 PM ET #20

    Cleveland - 24                        Denver - 23
    Broncos +3                 over 46
    No John Elway to drive the Broncs the lenght of the field to pull off the upset win.  but Denver still covers.
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    Cleveland - 24                        Denver - 23
    Broncos +3                 over 46
    No John Elway to drive the Broncs the lenght of the field to pull off the upset win.  but Denver still covers.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2008 - 11:53 PM ET #21

    This is not a good game to bet on or watch!! 

    Oh wait its on the NFL network i dont have to do either

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    This is not a good game to bet on or watch!! 

    Oh wait its on the NFL network i dont have to do either

     
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    Like rest of consensus,not too crazy about this game.There is such a thing as a team having an opponent's number such as Denver seem to have on Brownies.Though Without putting too much stock on this, fact is Shanahan has seldom lost five in a row  throughout his career . As one considers Denver is likely to lose next week on Atlanta's home turf,This game represents a clear soft spot and opportunity for Shanahan to unleash relentless Blitzkrieg pressure on Brady Quinn.Desperation looming for the Broncos and believe this opens the door to a hard fought low scoring type game in the trenches where special teams may prove to be the difference. With 3 1/2 pts the play is Denver.Though on a scale of 1-10 this game stands as a 7 rated stinker to bet on with better money plays up ahead.CLEVELAND 17 BRONCOS 16. GL 
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    Like rest of consensus,not too crazy about this game.There is such a thing as a team having an opponent's number such as Denver seem to have on Brownies.Though Without putting too much stock on this, fact is Shanahan has seldom lost five in a row  throughout his career . As one considers Denver is likely to lose next week on Atlanta's home turf,This game represents a clear soft spot and opportunity for Shanahan to unleash relentless Blitzkrieg pressure on Brady Quinn.Desperation looming for the Broncos and believe this opens the door to a hard fought low scoring type game in the trenches where special teams may prove to be the difference. With 3 1/2 pts the play is Denver.Though on a scale of 1-10 this game stands as a 7 rated stinker to bet on with better money plays up ahead.CLEVELAND 17 BRONCOS 16. GL 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 12:14 PM ET #23

    i'm leaning Denver here...
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    i'm leaning Denver here...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 1:04 PM ET #24

    nice that quinns gonna have a weak defense to face...going cleveland/under
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    nice that quinns gonna have a weak defense to face...going cleveland/under
     
     
    mleavers2000
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 3:09 PM ET #25

    Early lean on the Browns here, although I'll probably by the 1/2 point to make it an even 3. I think the Browns get it done at home. Quinn looked pretty good pre-season and maybe Braylon Edwards will actually catch a pass or two to help the kid out.

    Browns +3
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    Early lean on the Browns here, although I'll probably by the 1/2 point to make it an even 3. I think the Browns get it done at home. Quinn looked pretty good pre-season and maybe Braylon Edwards will actually catch a pass or two to help the kid out.

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