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    Dallas at St. Louis (09/21/2014)

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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2014 - 1:22 AM ET #1

    Away:  Dallas [1-1 ATS]
    Home:  St. Louis [1-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Edward Jones Dome

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    Dallas:
    Passing: Tony Romo (457)
    Rushing: DeMarco Murray (285)
    Receiving: Dez Bryant (158)

    St. Louis:
    Passing: Austin Davis (427)
    Rushing: Zac Stacy (114)
    Receiving: Brian Quick (173)

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    Away:  Dallas [1-1 ATS]
    Home:  St. Louis [1-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Edward Jones Dome

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Dallas:
    Passing: Tony Romo (457)
    Rushing: DeMarco Murray (285)
    Receiving: Dez Bryant (158)

    St. Louis:
    Passing: Austin Davis (427)
    Rushing: Zac Stacy (114)
    Receiving: Brian Quick (173)

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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2014 - 10:31 AM ET #2

    Dallas ran crazy last year at home against the Rams, don't think they'll try to reinvent the wheel.  

    Dallas -1.5
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    Dallas ran crazy last year at home against the Rams, don't think they'll try to reinvent the wheel.  

    Dallas -1.5
     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2014 - 5:10 PM ET #3

    This lines stinks. St. Louis is capable of stopping the run and putting heat on Romo. They should be in a good spot at home in the dome while catching Dallas off a win as a dog while on the 2nd of B2B away.

    It's a a trap. Books want you to see a small number and back America's Team against a 3rd string QB.  The Rams can play an ugly, low-scoring game and have Legatron boot massive FGs to put them ahead.

    St. Louis will focus on stopping the run and chase Romo into mistakes. I'd recommend the Rams and under for this one.
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    This lines stinks. St. Louis is capable of stopping the run and putting heat on Romo. They should be in a good spot at home in the dome while catching Dallas off a win as a dog while on the 2nd of B2B away.

    It's a a trap. Books want you to see a small number and back America's Team against a 3rd string QB.  The Rams can play an ugly, low-scoring game and have Legatron boot massive FGs to put them ahead.

    St. Louis will focus on stopping the run and chase Romo into mistakes. I'd recommend the Rams and under for this one.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2014 - 10:30 AM ET #4

    Is that the same sucky Cowboys' line that paves the way for the current leading rusher in the NFL.  Over 5 yards a carry on 51 carries.  With only a long of 21, that's constant good yards.  Also,  that the same Ram's defense that is 30th in rushing allowed at 171 ypg.?

    Yeah, I doubt very seriously you want to load the box to stop Murray and go one-on-one with Dez, Williams, and Witten.  Tell me what corner on the Rams has the top notch ability to hold down Dez in a single match-up.  That would be a quick death instead of getting bled out by Murray.

    I guarantee you Dallas moves the ball well and scores at least 28 in this game.  The question is will the Dallas defense regress some and let the Ram's make it a game at home?  The answer is no, the Ram's offensive core is a mid level talented team.  Good enough to cause problems if their defense could hold Dallas in check in both the run and pass...they can't.  

    This game is all Dallas.  In Dallas it would be a route.  Being in St. Louis, it may be a game, but still goes to the Cowboys.  No way Dallas goes 0-2 in the NFC heading into New Orleans game which likely will be another NFC loss.  

    The individual player match-ups are largely in favor of the Cowboys.  Even the Ram's star rusher is matched on the Cowboys star OL.  The only huge prob for Dallas is TE Jared Cook.  He'll have a big game but you can't ride his back alone to victory.  

    Last week, the Titans got pressure because their stud DE was on Doug Free.  Not same vulnerable mismatch this week.  Do the individual match-ups before each game, that's where you find real advantages.  If Ram's load the box, pressure will be irrelevant as Dallas will unload the ball quick to talented receivers beating single coverage.

    Cowboys 30, Rams 19 
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    Is that the same sucky Cowboys' line that paves the way for the current leading rusher in the NFL.  Over 5 yards a carry on 51 carries.  With only a long of 21, that's constant good yards.  Also,  that the same Ram's defense that is 30th in rushing allowed at 171 ypg.?

    Yeah, I doubt very seriously you want to load the box to stop Murray and go one-on-one with Dez, Williams, and Witten.  Tell me what corner on the Rams has the top notch ability to hold down Dez in a single match-up.  That would be a quick death instead of getting bled out by Murray.

    I guarantee you Dallas moves the ball well and scores at least 28 in this game.  The question is will the Dallas defense regress some and let the Ram's make it a game at home?  The answer is no, the Ram's offensive core is a mid level talented team.  Good enough to cause problems if their defense could hold Dallas in check in both the run and pass...they can't.  

    This game is all Dallas.  In Dallas it would be a route.  Being in St. Louis, it may be a game, but still goes to the Cowboys.  No way Dallas goes 0-2 in the NFC heading into New Orleans game which likely will be another NFC loss.  

    The individual player match-ups are largely in favor of the Cowboys.  Even the Ram's star rusher is matched on the Cowboys star OL.  The only huge prob for Dallas is TE Jared Cook.  He'll have a big game but you can't ride his back alone to victory.  

    Last week, the Titans got pressure because their stud DE was on Doug Free.  Not same vulnerable mismatch this week.  Do the individual match-ups before each game, that's where you find real advantages.  If Ram's load the box, pressure will be irrelevant as Dallas will unload the ball quick to talented receivers beating single coverage.

    Cowboys 30, Rams 19 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2014 - 3:26 PM ET #5

    I'll be the odd ball here and take the Rams ML

    Zac Stacy will run wild on that soft Dallas D and I see the Rams D pressuring and harassing Romo all day...
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    I'll be the odd ball here and take the Rams ML

    Zac Stacy will run wild on that soft Dallas D and I see the Rams D pressuring and harassing Romo all day...
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2014 - 5:48 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by echelon1:

    Is that the same sucky Cowboys' line that paves the way for the current leading rusher in the NFL.


    Line as in the spread
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    Quote Originally Posted by echelon1:

    Is that the same sucky Cowboys' line that paves the way for the current leading rusher in the NFL.


    Line as in the spread
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2014 - 7:19 PM ET #7

    Why do I feel CowGirlz S/U in this one? You know why? Next week is a Jerry Jones F#@k-Fest at home against the Saints - Sunday Night, primetime, ad-time, moneytime........ And a 2-1 "Mighty" America's team looks better to the advertisers than a pathetic 1-2 "also ran" now, doesn't it? Same reason Saints win this week. Yeah, it's against the "Child-Abuser-Less" Vikings, but nonetheless.............
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    Why do I feel CowGirlz S/U in this one? You know why? Next week is a Jerry Jones F#@k-Fest at home against the Saints - Sunday Night, primetime, ad-time, moneytime........ And a 2-1 "Mighty" America's team looks better to the advertisers than a pathetic 1-2 "also ran" now, doesn't it? Same reason Saints win this week. Yeah, it's against the "Child-Abuser-Less" Vikings, but nonetheless.............
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2014 - 8:55 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

    Why do I feel CowGirlz S/U in this one? You know why? Next week is a Jerry Jones F#@k-Fest at home against the Saints - Sunday Night, primetime, ad-time, moneytime........ And a 2-1 "Mighty" America's team looks better to the advertisers than a pathetic 1-2 "also ran" now, doesn't it? Same reason Saints win this week. Yeah, it's against the "Child-Abuser-Less" Vikings, but nonetheless.............

    Very astute observation.   ''Follow the money''  - Deep Throat

    Nice breakdown Echelon

    I'll add that Dallas plays good on the road  

    Dallas  large,  

    Rams looked good against a stinky Tampa team  is the reason for the line.  This line should start to move towards 3 by Sunday.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

    Why do I feel CowGirlz S/U in this one? You know why? Next week is a Jerry Jones F#@k-Fest at home against the Saints - Sunday Night, primetime, ad-time, moneytime........ And a 2-1 "Mighty" America's team looks better to the advertisers than a pathetic 1-2 "also ran" now, doesn't it? Same reason Saints win this week. Yeah, it's against the "Child-Abuser-Less" Vikings, but nonetheless.............

    Very astute observation.   ''Follow the money''  - Deep Throat

    Nice breakdown Echelon

    I'll add that Dallas plays good on the road  

    Dallas  large,  

    Rams looked good against a stinky Tampa team  is the reason for the line.  This line should start to move towards 3 by Sunday.  
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2014 - 9:16 PM ET #9

    I will add one more tidbit,  the Rams will be eligible to vacate their lease at the end of the year and move to LA  unless the stadium is upgraded to one of the 8th best in the league.  No way that happens so the lease will be up effectively at the end of this year.  So the Rams owner has no motivation,  just has to do so so and limp through the season.  He purchased 60 acres near the Forum in LA. 

    Google it.
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    I will add one more tidbit,  the Rams will be eligible to vacate their lease at the end of the year and move to LA  unless the stadium is upgraded to one of the 8th best in the league.  No way that happens so the lease will be up effectively at the end of this year.  So the Rams owner has no motivation,  just has to do so so and limp through the season.  He purchased 60 acres near the Forum in LA. 

    Google it.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2014 - 9:17 PM ET #10

    I am backing up the truck  and getting as much of this as I can.  Taking out a second mortgage.  

    Dallas LARGE  ML
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    I am backing up the truck  and getting as much of this as I can.  Taking out a second mortgage.  

    Dallas LARGE  ML
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2014 - 12:10 AM ET #11

    Dallas wins .
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    Dallas wins .
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2014 - 1:26 AM ET #12

    Dallas big play.
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    Dallas big play.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2014 - 1:41 AM ET #13

    Have to go Dallas... Anybody see what ATL did to Tampa?

    St. Louis is just BAD... I hate the COWBOWS, but I bet them with love on this one.  

    Dallas -1 

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    Have to go Dallas... Anybody see what ATL did to Tampa?

    St. Louis is just BAD... I hate the COWBOWS, but I bet them with love on this one.  

    Dallas -1 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2014 - 3:45 AM ET #14

    well said voltanic sl big gl
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    well said voltanic sl big gl
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2014 - 2:01 PM ET #15

    lets bet the farm  going dallas big money then double down on frisco

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    lets bet the farm  going dallas big money then double down on frisco

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2014 - 11:29 PM ET #16

    I agree on Dallas. They're turning their team around slowly.But... when EVERYONE likes one team, we all know what happens.
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    I agree on Dallas. They're turning their team around slowly.But... when EVERYONE likes one team, we all know what happens.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2014 - 2:57 AM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by CDsomera:

    lets bet the farm  going dallas big money then double down on frisco


    I 'm with you on Dallas but still thinking over Frisco. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by CDsomera:

    lets bet the farm  going dallas big money then double down on frisco


    I 'm with you on Dallas but still thinking over Frisco. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2014 - 4:00 AM ET #18

    Something about this line is really fishy....

    Only -1?? It should be Dallas -3 or -3.5 but... If it's -1 then Dallas should cover this easily. Easy money right???

    Ahh.... 

    Gonna look this over carefully especially when Dallas are favorites ..
    Sip on that plus money honey!
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    Something about this line is really fishy....

    Only -1?? It should be Dallas -3 or -3.5 but... If it's -1 then Dallas should cover this easily. Easy money right???

    Ahh.... 

    Gonna look this over carefully especially when Dallas are favorites ..
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2014 - 1:09 PM ET #19

    Digital,       I thought the total was fish low on the Atlanta game so I avoided it........sometimes the oddsmakers dont get it right.
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    Digital,       I thought the total was fish low on the Atlanta game so I avoided it........sometimes the oddsmakers dont get it right.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2014 - 1:10 PM ET #20

    If the line doesnt move towards 3 Dallas  I am going to reduce my bet size or even refrain though.
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    If the line doesnt move towards 3 Dallas  I am going to reduce my bet size or even refrain though.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2014 - 4:52 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltanic:

    This lines stinks. St. Louis is capable of stopping the run and putting heat on Romo. They should be in a good spot at home in the dome while catching Dallas off a win as a dog while on the 2nd of B2B away.

    It's a a trap. Books want you to see a small number and back America's Team against a 3rd string QB.  The Rams can play an ugly, low-scoring game and have Legatron boot massive FGs to put them ahead.

    St. Louis will focus on stopping the run and chase Romo into mistakes. I'd recommend the Rams and under for this one.






    WOW,  we both know that St. Louis...SUCKS!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltanic:

    This lines stinks. St. Louis is capable of stopping the run and putting heat on Romo. They should be in a good spot at home in the dome while catching Dallas off a win as a dog while on the 2nd of B2B away.

    It's a a trap. Books want you to see a small number and back America's Team against a 3rd string QB.  The Rams can play an ugly, low-scoring game and have Legatron boot massive FGs to put them ahead.

    St. Louis will focus on stopping the run and chase Romo into mistakes. I'd recommend the Rams and under for this one.






    WOW,  we both know that St. Louis...SUCKS!!!!!!!!!

     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2014 - 7:57 PM ET #22

    Looking at St.Louis for the win(Big)
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    Looking at St.Louis for the win(Big)
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2014 - 9:16 PM ET #23

    BEST PLAY PICK

    OVER (best pick)
    DALLAS ( 2 option )

    The over is the safest play in this game. St Louis is averaging 11 points in two games of the regular season, Dallas does not average anything unusual 21 points in two games, 45 is the initial line which seems high, which is already low 44 points, to go to the logical low, my projection indicates more than 47 points. The baby Over the over.

    Prediction: 30-20 DALLAS. 
    Good luck friend.
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    BEST PLAY PICK

    OVER (best pick)
    DALLAS ( 2 option )

    The over is the safest play in this game. St Louis is averaging 11 points in two games of the regular season, Dallas does not average anything unusual 21 points in two games, 45 is the initial line which seems high, which is already low 44 points, to go to the logical low, my projection indicates more than 47 points. The baby Over the over.

    Prediction: 30-20 DALLAS. 
    Good luck friend.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2014 - 11:47 PM ET #24

    St. Louis Rams +1.5 LARGE
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    St. Louis Rams +1.5 LARGE
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2014 - 12:54 AM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

    Why do I feel CowGirlz S/U in this one? You know why? Next week is a Jerry Jones F#@k-Fest at home against the Saints - Sunday Night, primetime, ad-time, moneytime........ And a 2-1 "Mighty" America's team looks better to the advertisers than a pathetic 1-2 "also ran" now, doesn't it? Same reason Saints win this week. Yeah, it's against the "Child-Abuser-Less" Vikings, but nonetheless.............

    Americas team?? It's not the mid 90's anymore guy.. Americas team isn't an underperforming team that is a constant underachiever that finishes 8-8 every year.. You want to call out AP?? Those Cowboys teams that were actually winning were filled with drug addicts. You want to talk about your recent Cowboy players?? Josh Brent?? Dez Bryant?? Glass houses my friend.. don't be so quick to judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

    Why do I feel CowGirlz S/U in this one? You know why? Next week is a Jerry Jones F#@k-Fest at home against the Saints - Sunday Night, primetime, ad-time, moneytime........ And a 2-1 "Mighty" America's team looks better to the advertisers than a pathetic 1-2 "also ran" now, doesn't it? Same reason Saints win this week. Yeah, it's against the "Child-Abuser-Less" Vikings, but nonetheless.............

    Americas team?? It's not the mid 90's anymore guy.. Americas team isn't an underperforming team that is a constant underachiever that finishes 8-8 every year.. You want to call out AP?? Those Cowboys teams that were actually winning were filled with drug addicts. You want to talk about your recent Cowboy players?? Josh Brent?? Dez Bryant?? Glass houses my friend.. don't be so quick to judge.

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