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Dallas at Arizona (10/12/2008)

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bigdaddyhpd

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Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 1:57 PM ET #51

Quote Originally Posted by Henry-Lilly:

This line could move a little bit before Sunday. The local papers here in Dallas are calling for Jerry Jones to cut Pacman Jones after he an "altercation" with one of the bodyguards that Jerry hired to keep Pacman out of trouble. The fear is that the Comish is going to kick him out of the league anyway so Jerry should show some balls first. The problem is that Terrance Newman has now been diagnosed with a sports hernia and will be out for six weeks. If Dallas cuts Pacman, the secondary will be in shambles against one of the better passing teams in the league. I still say take the OVER, but I would wait on wagering the side until this thing plays out.

Breakabookie- Alles klar. I'm assuming this newest Cowboy distraction reinforces your Arizona moneyline?

I was wondering myself if Goodell will slap it on them before Sunday. Although the defense is already hurting and will be a key loss for Dallas on defense I know Adam aka Pacman also contributed to the retrun game as well to put Dallas in good field position.

Liking the over even much better now, pending on how Saturday goes probably hammer a little more on the over.

Henry-Lilly

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Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 3:06 PM ET #52

Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

and what is ALLES KLAR?

It means "everything is cool" in German

Henry-Lilly

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Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 3:14 PM ET #53

Quote Originally Posted by colin_nguyen:

it does matter that Newman is out, he was out there last game aganist the bengals, and they bengals caught up with them, arizona is a way better team than the bengals, think about that...

Newman was inactive and in street clothes during the Bengals game, think about that...

Henry-Lilly

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Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 3:18 PM ET #54

Newman was playing hurt during the Washington game and got burned for 3 touchdowns. He hasn't suited up since. Play the OVER if it's under 55

PGram13

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Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 3:32 PM ET #55

LOVE THE OVERS HERE ALSO.........Mony21!! Gotta go with my Boys also!

atlantasports

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Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 3:53 PM ET #56

Arizona and overs

tokin33

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Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 3:58 PM ET #57

here are my EARLY pro leans for this weekend. i'm trying to stay away from totals because neither coach or team gives a shit what the total ends up. i haven't looked at injuries yet but i usually know the big ones, from fantasy. i'm a giants fan, so i tend to favor the nfc east, but that hasn't hurt me this year.

1:00 chi at ATL +3
1:00 oak at NO -7.5
1:00 CAR +1 at tb
1:00 stl at WAS -13.5
1:00 CIN +6 at nyj
1:00 DET +13 at min
1:00 bal at IND -4
4:15 DAL -5 at ari
4:15 PHI -4.5 at sf

? 1:00 mia at hou
? 4:15 jac at den
? 4:15 gb at sea
? 8:15 ne at sd
? 8:30 nyg at cle

so i've got 5 road teams, 4 home teams, 4 dogs, 5 faves, and 5 games undecided. i usually buy to an even number if its within 1, like -7.5 to -7 and +2 to +3. but i don't buy the hook like +3 to +3.5 or -7 to -6.5 because if it's that close at the end, my pick wasn't that great anyway so i'm happy with pushing. i also play moneylines, almost strictly on home dogs like atlanta this week. best of luck this weekend.

Henry-Lilly

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Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 6:36 PM ET #58

Jerry Jones defended Pacman today and said no action is necessary. So, unless Goodell says otherwise Pacman will be covering Fitzgerald, running back punts and beating up strippers on Sunday!

bowlinguy12

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Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 10:06 PM ET #59

Quote Originally Posted by tokin33:

? 1:00 mia at hou
? 4:15 jac at den
? 4:15 gb at sea
? 8:15 ne at sd
? 8:30 nyg at cle

very nice picks

how did you do last week?

kireiricky

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Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 12:13 AM ET #60

saw this in the trend tab on this site...kind of interesting percentage.

Against The Spread (ATS)


Away Teams	39-33-2	54.17%
Home Teams	33-39-2	45.83%
Favorites	41-31-2	56.94%
Dogs	31-41-2	43.06%
Away Favorites	15-7-0	68.18%
Away Dogs	24-26-2	48.00%
Home Favorites	26-24-2	52.00%
Home Dogs	7-15-0	31.82%

That's pretty significant information, but the only thing is that dallas always has a lot of backers.


Away Teams	39-33-2	54.17%
Home Teams	33-39-2	45.83%
Favorites	41-31-2	56.94%
Dogs	31-41-2	43.06%
Away Favorites	15-7-0	68.18%
Away Dogs	24-26-2	48.00%
Home Favorites	26-24-2	52.00%
Home Dogs	7-15-0	31.82%

duffield550

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Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 2:33 AM ET #61

I'm OFF this game.

Staying away.

tokin33

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Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 3:27 AM ET #62

Quote Originally Posted by bowlinguy12:

very nice picks

how did you do last week?

thanks...last week my big 2 were indy and tennessee, so i won them both, but i got lucky in both. then i went something like 50% in my smaller picks, like philly-lost, chicago-won, atlanta-won, buffalo-lost, and cin/dal over 1H-push

BreakaBookie

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Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 4:20 PM ET #63

I'd like to start another topic in this forum..... and the topic is....

5 point spreads.....

why isn't the line 6 or 7??? what's the difference, why the does vegas do that with the spread??? look at the Pat/charger game... is there a reason why that's 5??? which team do you think vegas is baiting you to take.... is 5 not enough? or is 5 too much??

FEEDBACK PLEASE

Mickster21

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Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 11:01 PM ET #64

This is a bad matchup for dem cowboys. Zona's strength is it's passing attack. Cowboys weakness is their secondary. Eagles and McNabb threw all over them, and while Warner isn't as good as McNabb, he has much better recievers. Dallas scores on anybody. And Romo will give the Cards a short field at least once. I don't bet against my Cowboys, but I'm gonna hammer the over. GL to all

dddevin69

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Posted: Oct. 11, 2008 - 3:13 AM ET #65

INTERESTING STAT:

The Cowboys have won 22 of their last 27 meetings with the Cardinals, including three straight. Romo threw for 308 yards and two touchdowns - including one to Owens - in Dallas' 27-10 victory Nov. 12, 2006.

uH, i don't know about you, but I would be hesitant to bet against a pro bowl level Cowboy team that is fighting mad due to hatas and losing to the Redskins.

dddevin69

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Posted: Oct. 11, 2008 - 3:28 AM ET #66

I'd like to start another topic in this forum..... and the topic is....

5 point spreads.....

FEEDBACK PLEASE

it's dat dirty Devin in the 69 here to the rescue. savin em like a college grad saves dem H**. Ok, 1st, excellent question. The reason the line on Dallas @ Arizona isn't -6 or -7 (like it should be ) is that Vegas likes to take advantage of MORONS (excuse my french) bettors that think that Dallas is going down just cuz Dallas playas like to live the thug life. Also, there are people that think that AZ is this good high power team. I'm sorry, I can't put my hard earned money on a qb that was thinking of retiring as recently as 1-2 weeks ago...that's retiring folks! get a clue people

Dallas may lose, anythin can happen, but listen to Devin (the Barrack Obama of wagerin) and put yo on the tried in true.

Keys to game for dallas: RUN RUN and RUN some mo! Dallas has enough runs to give the Arizona D diarrea. Yeah, I dun went there. between Barber runnin full speed tween them tackles like Romo on Jessica Simpson on a hot night of passion and Felix Jones catchin balls on halfback tosses Dallas should get at least 150 yards alone on rushing. Let's not even talk about pro bowl caliber qb Tony (the lover) Romo. I'm a romomantic at heart. Peep this. Romo has thrown an int in 8 straight games and has a winning record. my mayne Vince Young does the same thang and da man dun benched em. WTF up wit dat? Is it racism goin on heah? anyways....like I was sayin Romo is the S*** and he proves it every week. Just imagine if Romo says to himself "F that.....I ain't throwin an int no matter what!!" then heaven help dat team.

Keys to Arizona: Warner needs to continue to play like a stud. Edgerin James needs to stop bein so hesitant to the hole. Edge be runnin like he scurred of the hole. Edge....don't be scurred! can the Cards D handle the Cowboys passing game?

Xfactor: Even though this is in Arizona..why do Dallas fans rock the house? legend has it that Dallas fans outnumber AZ fans so this is basically like a home game for Dallas.

I don't know a final score for this game, but I do know that I've watched about 90+% of all Dallas games since 1989. That's a lot of hours spent sweatin and waiting for somethin good to happen. good times good times like my name was JJ back in '74.

Do yourself a favor....ride Dallas until the wheels fall off. I know, Dallas's ats record is suspect and Dallas didn't cover against Wash and Cincy, but that's then and this is now. Dallas fans will freak (as they should) if Dallas muffs this up. If Dallas wins....won't it be by more than 5? I mean.....really.

Dallas -5 and sleep on it.

I'd like to start another topic in this forum..... and the topic is....

5 point spreads.....

FEEDBACK PLEASE

Dallas may lose, anythin can happen, but listen to Devin (the Barrack Obama of wagerin) and put yo on the tried in true.

Xfactor: Even though this is in Arizona..why do Dallas fans rock the house? legend has it that Dallas fans outnumber AZ fans so this is basically like a home game for Dallas.

Dallas -5 and sleep on it.

atlantasports

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Posted: Oct. 11, 2008 - 11:01 AM ET #67

AR + 6 and overs.

Blkshrt

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Posted: Oct. 11, 2008 - 2:58 PM ET #68

Dallas will put a lot of pressure on AZ and will run the ball least 35 times in this game. AZ defense will be beat down by the 4th quarter and Dallas will pound the ball on that tired defense.

Take the Cowboys and give the points. Good Luck Everyone

hoopsprof

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Posted: Oct. 11, 2008 - 3:16 PM ET #69

dddevin...

I dont think I have heard a worse case for Dallas by anyone.

1) try writing in english

2) try producing facts, not opinion

3) Racism? LMAO....vince was producing just like Leinart, and that is why they are both on the bench. Tenn looks better with Collins at QB...get a clue

4) Where has that great running game been? If AZ gets up on Dallas early, it will turn into a shootout with Romo forcing everything to TO. The only other receiver is Whitten. Dont worry, Adrian Wilson will knock one of the big three out of the game.

5) Warner felt responsible for what happened to Boldin, that is what the retirement thing is about. And he meant at the end of the season. Way to knock a stand up guy. You have no class. Clown!

hoopsprof

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Posted: Oct. 11, 2008 - 3:33 PM ET #70

dddevin...

I apologize for attacking you personally as there is no need for that on covers, another cowboy fan pissed me off this morning....I do disagree with you statements though...best of luck buddy...

Henry-Lilly

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Posted: Oct. 11, 2008 - 4:34 PM ET #71

Wow DDevin- I had your back earlier in this thread, but I didn't realize you were going to be so "thug" and "ghetto". Stick with your picks and tell us why and keep the thug shit out of it.