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    Dallas at Arizona (10/12/2008)

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    Mr_Covers
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2008 - 1:22 AM ET #1

    Away:  Dallas [2-3 ATS]
    Home:  Arizona [3-2 ATS]

    Game Time: 4:15 PM
    Stadium: University of Phoenix Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Dallas:
    Passing: Tony Romo (1368)
    Rushing: Marion Barber (395)
    Receiving: Jason Witten (442)

    Arizona:
    Passing: Kurt Warner (1472)
    Rushing: Edgerrin James (334)
    Receiving: Larry Fitzgerald (467)

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    Away:  Dallas [2-3 ATS]
    Home:  Arizona [3-2 ATS]

    Game Time: 4:15 PM
    Stadium: University of Phoenix Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Dallas:
    Passing: Tony Romo (1368)
    Rushing: Marion Barber (395)
    Receiving: Jason Witten (442)

    Arizona:
    Passing: Kurt Warner (1472)
    Rushing: Edgerrin James (334)
    Receiving: Larry Fitzgerald (467)

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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2008 - 3:46 AM ET #2

    love the OVER for this game, both teams love to throw the ball all day
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    love the OVER for this game, both teams love to throw the ball all day
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2008 - 4:47 AM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by Mony21:

    love the OVER for this game, both teams love to throw the ball all day

    sounds good to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mony21:

    love the OVER for this game, both teams love to throw the ball all day

    sounds good to me

     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2008 - 8:46 AM ET #4

    I would take Dallas -5 for this one.  It will probably be close. I don't doubt that, but this is Dallas.  Yeah I know Dallas looked shaky against the lowly Bengals, but that happens with good teams sometimes. I Dallas may have burned some the last game, but this isn't Dallas -14, -10, or even -7.   It's just Dallas -5 against the Cards.  The Cards just had a great game against Buffalo.  Maybe the cards are due for a letdown.  Let's think about this, Dallas hasn't played up to bar going 0-2 their last 2 ATS and the Cards just looked like Supermen against a Buffalo team that lost their starting qb.
     
     
     
    I'm thinking Dallas can right the ship and beat AZ by at least 7 or 8.  The total may be your best bet, but I wouldn't fret betting on Dallas -5.  I'm thinking -5 might be a gift. 
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    I would take Dallas -5 for this one.  It will probably be close. I don't doubt that, but this is Dallas.  Yeah I know Dallas looked shaky against the lowly Bengals, but that happens with good teams sometimes. I Dallas may have burned some the last game, but this isn't Dallas -14, -10, or even -7.   It's just Dallas -5 against the Cards.  The Cards just had a great game against Buffalo.  Maybe the cards are due for a letdown.  Let's think about this, Dallas hasn't played up to bar going 0-2 their last 2 ATS and the Cards just looked like Supermen against a Buffalo team that lost their starting qb.
     
     
     
    I'm thinking Dallas can right the ship and beat AZ by at least 7 or 8.  The total may be your best bet, but I wouldn't fret betting on Dallas -5.  I'm thinking -5 might be a gift. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2008 - 10:36 AM ET #5

    You don't know what you're thinking. First you say "It will probably be close, I don't doubt that." Then you say: "-5 might be a gift." You're all over the place. Read this book and it will help you get a handle on what you're thinking and doing. Disconnected thought fragments need to be eliminated.
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    You don't know what you're thinking. First you say "It will probably be close, I don't doubt that." Then you say: "-5 might be a gift." You're all over the place. Read this book and it will help you get a handle on what you're thinking and doing. Disconnected thought fragments need to be eliminated.
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2008 - 10:42 AM ET #6

    Arizona will probably keep it close, but Romo just wins games.  I'm staying away, but I think Dallas finally gets their shit together and shows up.
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    Arizona will probably keep it close, but Romo just wins games.  I'm staying away, but I think Dallas finally gets their shit together and shows up.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2008 - 11:52 AM ET #7

    Like Dallas here.  They are going to get it together for this game
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    Like Dallas here.  They are going to get it together for this game
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2008 - 12:24 PM ET #8

    I just think that if this Cardinal team can put up 41 points on a normally tough Bills defense I feel points can be put up against this Dallas defense. I know Terrence McGee was out for the Bills but the Cards didn't have Boldin as an offensive threat as well.
     
    Both teams can put up some points on the board still liking the over in this one.
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    I just think that if this Cardinal team can put up 41 points on a normally tough Bills defense I feel points can be put up against this Dallas defense. I know Terrence McGee was out for the Bills but the Cards didn't have Boldin as an offensive threat as well.
     
    Both teams can put up some points on the board still liking the over in this one.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2008 - 1:18 PM ET #9

    Arizona wins outright.
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    Arizona wins outright.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2008 - 2:25 PM ET #10

    DAL -5
     
    -5, are you serious?
    Should be -7, or 8
     
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    DAL -5
     
    -5, are you serious?
    Should be -7, or 8
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2008 - 2:56 PM ET #11

    I forgot that this is practically a home game for Dallas.
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    I forgot that this is practically a home game for Dallas.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2008 - 3:01 PM ET #12

    Dallas defense is horrible. Might stay away but if i take someone its AR
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    Dallas defense is horrible. Might stay away but if i take someone its AR
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2008 - 4:15 PM ET #13

    Arizona ML....
     
    Dallas defense has not impressed me at all....
     
    This Arizona unit can put up points against any team....
     
    I'd say they outscore America's team.... and Romo beats himself....
     
    Wish they we're laying more to make my moneyline bet more profitable....
     
     
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    Arizona ML....
     
    Dallas defense has not impressed me at all....
     
    This Arizona unit can put up points against any team....
     
    I'd say they outscore America's team.... and Romo beats himself....
     
    Wish they we're laying more to make my moneyline bet more profitable....
     
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2008 - 5:16 PM ET #14

    These teams may put up 40 spots by themselves.
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    These teams may put up 40 spots by themselves.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2008 - 8:10 PM ET #15

    Arizona  - 31                                   Dallas - 28
    Cardinals +5.5             over 50
    If Warner gets the rock in the hands of the playmakers Cards can pull off the upset. If not Dallas rolls. My pick says what's likely to happen.  
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    Arizona  - 31                                   Dallas - 28
    Cardinals +5.5             over 50
    If Warner gets the rock in the hands of the playmakers Cards can pull off the upset. If not Dallas rolls. My pick says what's likely to happen.  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2008 - 10:18 PM ET #16

    is it me or does this line SCREAM take Dallas???  in other words where is the public money right now? 
     
    Kurt Warner will probably fumbe twice and throw an interception or 2.....
     
    but the guy will throw 5 tds and over 400 yards......
     
    they are playing well at home.... that east coast on the road factor is not around.... they will have the crowd on their side...
     
    I believe they will come in confident....
     
    this has upset written all over it
     
    this is a risky pick.... but I'll also take the OVER just to hedge it.....
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    is it me or does this line SCREAM take Dallas???  in other words where is the public money right now? 
     
    Kurt Warner will probably fumbe twice and throw an interception or 2.....
     
    but the guy will throw 5 tds and over 400 yards......
     
    they are playing well at home.... that east coast on the road factor is not around.... they will have the crowd on their side...
     
    I believe they will come in confident....
     
    this has upset written all over it
     
    this is a risky pick.... but I'll also take the OVER just to hedge it.....
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2008 - 11:38 PM ET #17

    AZ wins this SU.

    Here are a few online wagering trends that might help us find a good online bet in this game.

    The Dallas Cowboys are 2 and 1 against the spread in their away games this season.

    The Over is 0 and 2 in the Dallas Cowboys’ three away games so far this season.

    The Arizona Cardinals are 2 and 0 against the spread in three home games this season.

    The Over is 2 and 0 in the Arizona Cardinals’ 2 home games so far this season. 

    Clearly, this is a game where the total of 49 ½ should be in jeopardy of getting destroyed.  There is only one situation where I see this game going under - - if a key offensive player from either the Cardinals or Cowboys gets hurt.

    If that happens, then maybe the game goes under, but even then both teams are so deep in the skill positions that the over should be a guarantee.  The Cardinals proved that even without Anquan Boldin, they have enough in Larry Fitzgerald, Tim Hightower and Edgerrin James to get into the end zone.

    The Cowboys scored two touchdowns in the fourth quarter of their win versus the Cincinnati Bengals, but they gave up points to the Bengals.  What’s going to happen when those suspect Cowboys defensive backs have to take on Fitzgerald?

    This means that the game goes over but what about a bet against the spread?

    Once again the Dallas Cowboys, who are only 2 and 3 against the spread so far this year, are favorites on the road.  Once again they have to play a very good team.  I have to take the Cardinals in this game at + 6.
    Good teams win games, Great teams cover the spread!
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    AZ wins this SU.

    Here are a few online wagering trends that might help us find a good online bet in this game.

    The Dallas Cowboys are 2 and 1 against the spread in their away games this season.

    The Over is 0 and 2 in the Dallas Cowboys’ three away games so far this season.

    The Arizona Cardinals are 2 and 0 against the spread in three home games this season.

    The Over is 2 and 0 in the Arizona Cardinals’ 2 home games so far this season. 

    Clearly, this is a game where the total of 49 ½ should be in jeopardy of getting destroyed.  There is only one situation where I see this game going under - - if a key offensive player from either the Cardinals or Cowboys gets hurt.

    If that happens, then maybe the game goes under, but even then both teams are so deep in the skill positions that the over should be a guarantee.  The Cardinals proved that even without Anquan Boldin, they have enough in Larry Fitzgerald, Tim Hightower and Edgerrin James to get into the end zone.

    The Cowboys scored two touchdowns in the fourth quarter of their win versus the Cincinnati Bengals, but they gave up points to the Bengals.  What’s going to happen when those suspect Cowboys defensive backs have to take on Fitzgerald?

    This means that the game goes over but what about a bet against the spread?

    Once again the Dallas Cowboys, who are only 2 and 3 against the spread so far this year, are favorites on the road.  Once again they have to play a very good team.  I have to take the Cardinals in this game at + 6.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2008 - 1:03 AM ET #18

    I have it 34 to 31 Coyboys
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    I have it 34 to 31 Coyboys
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2008 - 2:20 AM ET #19

    i love my cowboys but they have been playing some close games...they barely beat the eagles. lose to the skins...had a scary one against cinci.

    there defense is whats killing them, that secondary is just awful.

    Arizona has the edge with having a younger team overall.

    I think dallas loses, this one. but since i don't like betting against my boys....that over is looking pretty nice
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    i love my cowboys but they have been playing some close games...they barely beat the eagles. lose to the skins...had a scary one against cinci.

    there defense is whats killing them, that secondary is just awful.

    Arizona has the edge with having a younger team overall.

    I think dallas loses, this one. but since i don't like betting against my boys....that over is looking pretty nice
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2008 - 4:24 AM ET #20

    I have it 34 to 31 Coyboys
     
     
     
     
     
    Sounds like a good score Snowjocky.  that's why taking the over might be the way to go. Sincerely, 
     
     
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    I have it 34 to 31 Coyboys
     
     
     
     
     
    Sounds like a good score Snowjocky.  that's why taking the over might be the way to go. Sincerely, 
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2008 - 6:11 AM ET #21

    Every Arizona football game the last 2 years has been easy money on the over. Pretty much every week...
     
     
    Hit it last week too against the Bills.
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    Every Arizona football game the last 2 years has been easy money on the over. Pretty much every week...
     
     
    Hit it last week too against the Bills.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2008 - 7:07 AM ET #22

    this will be a hard game for Dallas...no doubt.  I didn't know Arizona is ranked # 5 in overall offense (thanks to Warner) and is ranked in the top 15 in Defense.
     
     
    Keys for dallas:  run run run, I said before the Dallas/ Cincy game that Dallas would run Barber and Felix jones for about 35 carries combined.  They ran for 32 combined.  I think Dallas gets it that they have to run the ball at people and take advantage of Jones. I'm wondering if Dallas tries a direct snap to Barber ala Dolphins, but maybe that's too radical. ( yeah, I know I called Dallas to cover in the Cincy game)  Barber pounds teams between the tackles and Felix Jones does damage on halfback tosses. Barber and Jones truly are "thunder and lightning".  It's like having Adrian Peterson and Reggie Bush on the same team, but on a lil smaller scale. 
     
    I've seen about 90% + of every Dallas game since 1989, and while that may be alot of hours wasted it helped me learn about dallas inside out.  Jason Garret's playcalling may look predictable but it's really not when you consider T.O. was called for an end around that did pretty good.  Arizona is clearly a much better team with Kurt Warner at the helm.  Matt Leinart may end up getting cut by the end of the season at this rate.  at the End of the day Dallas is still Dallas ( a top 5 team no matter how you look at it) and Arizona is still...well Arizona.  It is true, this is like a home game for Dallas. It's known that many dallas fans travel to Arizona and basicaly outnumber them.  INTERSTING STAT:  Tony Romo has averaged at least 1 int ech game for the past 8 games and has a winning record during that stretch. Just imagine if Romo plays mistake free football. and Romo is still ranked in the top 5 in qb rating.  Kurt Warner is ranked higher.
     
    Look for the Dallas D to shut down Edgerin James.  I'm looking for Warner to torch the Dallas secondary for another 300+ yard peformance, but I'm also looking for 150+ yards from Marion Barber and Felix Jones.  I'm looking for Dallas to win even if it takes the last 2 minutes to do so.
     
     
    Overall, do yourself a favor and bet the over. 
     
     
    I'm thinking more in line with
     
     

    Dallas 30
     
    Arizona 27
     
     
    Oklahomer, feel free to bash if you want.  I'm used to childish ignorance from some (you know who you are) on these posts. 
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    this will be a hard game for Dallas...no doubt.  I didn't know Arizona is ranked # 5 in overall offense (thanks to Warner) and is ranked in the top 15 in Defense.
     
     
    Keys for dallas:  run run run, I said before the Dallas/ Cincy game that Dallas would run Barber and Felix jones for about 35 carries combined.  They ran for 32 combined.  I think Dallas gets it that they have to run the ball at people and take advantage of Jones. I'm wondering if Dallas tries a direct snap to Barber ala Dolphins, but maybe that's too radical. ( yeah, I know I called Dallas to cover in the Cincy game)  Barber pounds teams between the tackles and Felix Jones does damage on halfback tosses. Barber and Jones truly are "thunder and lightning".  It's like having Adrian Peterson and Reggie Bush on the same team, but on a lil smaller scale. 
     
    I've seen about 90% + of every Dallas game since 1989, and while that may be alot of hours wasted it helped me learn about dallas inside out.  Jason Garret's playcalling may look predictable but it's really not when you consider T.O. was called for an end around that did pretty good.  Arizona is clearly a much better team with Kurt Warner at the helm.  Matt Leinart may end up getting cut by the end of the season at this rate.  at the End of the day Dallas is still Dallas ( a top 5 team no matter how you look at it) and Arizona is still...well Arizona.  It is true, this is like a home game for Dallas. It's known that many dallas fans travel to Arizona and basicaly outnumber them.  INTERSTING STAT:  Tony Romo has averaged at least 1 int ech game for the past 8 games and has a winning record during that stretch. Just imagine if Romo plays mistake free football. and Romo is still ranked in the top 5 in qb rating.  Kurt Warner is ranked higher.
     
    Look for the Dallas D to shut down Edgerin James.  I'm looking for Warner to torch the Dallas secondary for another 300+ yard peformance, but I'm also looking for 150+ yards from Marion Barber and Felix Jones.  I'm looking for Dallas to win even if it takes the last 2 minutes to do so.
     
     
    Overall, do yourself a favor and bet the over. 
     
     
    I'm thinking more in line with
     
     

    Dallas 30
     
    Arizona 27
     
     
    Oklahomer, feel free to bash if you want.  I'm used to childish ignorance from some (you know who you are) on these posts. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2008 - 1:33 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by atlantasports:

    Dallas defense is horrible. Might stay away but if i take someone its AR


    Horrible?  They have the 14th ranked defense in the league with a couple of Pro Bowl starters sidelined with injuries (Newman and R. Williams).  That is not horrible my friend.  Having said that, this is the 3rd ranked offense (Dallas) going against the 5th ranked offense... I do like the OVER here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atlantasports:

    Dallas defense is horrible. Might stay away but if i take someone its AR


    Horrible?  They have the 14th ranked defense in the league with a couple of Pro Bowl starters sidelined with injuries (Newman and R. Williams).  That is not horrible my friend.  Having said that, this is the 3rd ranked offense (Dallas) going against the 5th ranked offense... I do like the OVER here.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2008 - 2:22 PM ET #24

    QUOTE Originally Posted by atlantasports:

    Dallas defense is horrible. Might stay away but if i take someone its AR


    Horrible?  They have the 14th ranked defense in the league with a couple of Pro Bowl starters sidelined with injuries (Newman and R. Williams).  That is not horrible my friend.  Having said that, this is the 3rd ranked offense (Dallas) going against the 5th ranked offense... I do like the OVER here.
     
     
     
    I agree.  For some reason it's become fashionable to bash Dallas's D.  Mind you Dalla's D has been in the top 10 for most of this season so far, and just now slipped to # 14  gasp.     If Dallas's D is horrible....heaven help teams like Denver and New Orleans.  THey might as well just cancel the season.  LMAO
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    QUOTE Originally Posted by atlantasports:

    Dallas defense is horrible. Might stay away but if i take someone its AR


    Horrible?  They have the 14th ranked defense in the league with a couple of Pro Bowl starters sidelined with injuries (Newman and R. Williams).  That is not horrible my friend.  Having said that, this is the 3rd ranked offense (Dallas) going against the 5th ranked offense... I do like the OVER here.
     
     
     
    I agree.  For some reason it's become fashionable to bash Dallas's D.  Mind you Dalla's D has been in the top 10 for most of this season so far, and just now slipped to # 14  gasp.     If Dallas's D is horrible....heaven help teams like Denver and New Orleans.  THey might as well just cancel the season.  LMAO
     
     
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