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Cleveland at Buffalo (11/17/2008)

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crazypicks

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Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 6:43 PM ET #101

when a player or headcoach make mistakes they get penalize or pay a huge fine or suspended,and this freaking refs just say sorry we made a bad call thats fucking b.s . they need to be suspended or fired they fuck a lot of people on the pitts.and san diego game score should be 17 10 waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

rosco136

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Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 6:43 PM ET #102

everyones on the over...and slightly on the bills...they will both try to run the ball in the cold...the bills r not good enough to blow anyone out....therefore BROWNS/UNDER

Fpronk

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Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 6:48 PM ET #103

Quote Originally Posted by jimbojones:

I am with you Fpronk for the browns however i am on the other side with the total. The weather shouldn't play a huge factor in this game in fact i believe that flurries are all that is expected. I have a friend there so i will give updates if anything is worth talking about. I see CLE in the upper 20's and BUF between 17-21 tonight. GL to all of you.

I am not on the UNDER for the weather only..I believe the Browns will try and establish the run...IMO I see a ground battle here. I think you have two teams going in the same miserable direction and they are going to want to eliminate turnovers, run the clock, and try and get the lead. This is also my reason for taking the Browns +5.5.

bowlinguy12

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Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 6:55 PM ET #104

Im loving the bills to cover tonight. the bills are on a 3 game losing streak after going undefeated in September, so i am definitely thinking that the bills and Trent Edwards are due for a GREAT game and i think it should be at at home on moday night, infront of the best fans in football!!!

Bills- 27
Browns- 17

LETSSSSSS GOOOOOOO BUFFFFALLOOOOOOOO!!!

tagsrock

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Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 6:56 PM ET #105

Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddyhpd:

Thanks bro

I'll lay off this one and invest more on Tues instead.

Good luck

hey daddyo so we going to see that dance tonight or what. I guess i am hoping you are on the under for your opinion is highly respected here.good luck to all my covs peeps.

delsgpi220

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Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 6:57 PM ET #106

Just got back from Erie Pa, between Clev and Buff and it's snowing like crazy.......thanks to an open teaser I can close it with Cleveland and take the 12.5! GL

TauntedStreet

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Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 6:58 PM ET #107

Don't let the rather high -5 for Buffalo fool you. It still won't creep to +6, despite most all of the public going heavy on Cleveland.

Brady Quinn will be exposed as his true mediocre self tonight. Not since Joe Montana have Notre Dame QBs been the same; that was 1979! Quinn couldn't expose a sorry Denver secondary. Admittedly, his numbers were above average, yet again, it was the seeping-with-holes Broncos.

Don't fall into this bite game: Everyone and their gold-tooth cousin will find Buffalo can't beat anyone with such a gulf of a spread. Yet, bear in mind, the Bills are a different animal at home.

Going Buffalo 24 Cleveland 14 (well outside of any buying up or down, and what is likely heavy money on the Over)

Bills -5 And The Under

Firing_bullets

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Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 7:01 PM ET #108

rethinking my previous pick stay tooned!!

tagsrock

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Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 7:01 PM ET #109

i didnt see where you said you are laying off sorry, long day today and week. I know the covers wager numbers dont meen shit but i do like the fact that more then double the consens is on the over. I do pay attention to that and it usually does go the other way so under for me.

theres my generic under dance haha

T-REV1

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Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 7:01 PM ET #110

Tonight is a tough one. Whoever wins either defines a hope for one teams second half or defines a hope with a new quarterback and their future.

Big test tonight for Brady Quinn. And going against the Bills, puts him in a comfortable spot. Bills pass defense has been pretty lame lately, giving up 244 yds/g in their last three. I think Josh Cribbs will get Brady to good field position, ranking 3rd in the league on kick returns, and with Quinn's mobility and strength, I can see him moving that offense pretty well down the field tonight. He does have something to prove tonight, and that is the fact he can be a starting QB in the NFL. He has the mentality, the calmness in big situation, and he can rise the occasion, shown last week and in his past. I have a feeling he leads this team tonight in a great battle.

The bills on the other hand have a huge favor in their running game tongiht. Marshawn Lynch uses tonights game as his bounce back game. The browns have been giving up over 160 yds/g since October 12, which is 30th in the league. Lynch is a great back with skills and speed like no other and a drive that reminds me of a smaller Steven Jackson. Tonight, Lynch gets it done big. Trent Edwards has been off and on ...OFF as of lately, so look for the Bills to relate to Lynch and the running game. Can Cleveland put their D together tonight and stop the run??

Now, the Browns have had a lot f talk about "giving up" or "quiting on their team" after the last couple weeks, reported by Lewis and Cribbs. There's been rumors about separation in the locker room ever since Quinn got the starting role. Tonight, I can see them coming together as a team and each of them making sure their teammates dont give up or quit.

This is going to be a rough game on the ground by the Bills and a swift air attack by the Browns. All in all, I think Quinn puts the Browns in position to win in the end. Let's see if he can do it. I think the whole country has been waiting to see when Brady gets his FIRST WIN! And i think tonights the night.

My Prediction:

CLE 27 (last min TD, if not they still cover...)
BUF 24

GL to All

CLE+5 OVER 40

small play on the CLE ML

Tonight is a tough one. Whoever wins either defines a hope for one teams second half or defines a hope with a new quarterback and their future.

My Prediction:

CLE 27 (last min TD, if not they still cover...)
BUF 24

GL to All

CLE+5 OVER 40

small play on the CLE ML

Firing_bullets

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Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 7:06 PM ET #111

Buff and under is my play, I got to go with the steam here, the public is right tonight on the game but not the total. GL everyone. Changing my earlier pick from Clev and under

Mickster21

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Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 7:07 PM ET #112

Gonna takeover 39 1/2 and small play on Buff. Think there's gonna be a revolt in Clevland soon... GL to all

JustFlipACoin

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Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 7:13 PM ET #113

I'm taking the under tonight.

FlyingDutchman

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Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 7:13 PM ET #114

Quote Originally Posted by delsgpi220:

Just got back from Erie Pa, between Clev and Buff and it's snowing like crazy.......thanks to an open teaser I can close it with Cleveland and take the 12.5! GL

careful bud. i wouldnt let the weather affect your pick. Its pretty clear in Buffalo, with light flurries, with little wind. Erie is south of Buffalo. Thats where all the snow has been expected to fall. There is little to no snow falling, and there really isnt expected here. I promise when you turn on the T.V tonight, you will have a hard time even seeing any snow falling. Maybe later in the game, but snow will not affect this game. GL all.

FlyingDutchman

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Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 7:16 PM ET #115

LETS GO BUFFALO!!!

Fpronk

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Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 7:17 PM ET #116

Quote Originally Posted by jbird4153:

In my opinion the under is the play....Quinn will be good but not right away and going again the Bills defense is not the same as going against Denver's defense. Buffalo's Defense at home only allows 87 yards a game rushing at home...well whats a rookie qb's best friend? a good running game. There going to blitz him about 15-20 times monday night so no time to throw. Also another reason I like the under is the weather....It calls for about 35 and lake affect snow. Anyone that knows about lake affect snow knows two things.....it snows like hell and it sucks to drive in.. to walk in... to do anything in let alone play football in it. Well thats my take on it good luck guys

jbird...nice Avatar...Who is she? Where can we find more?

Sandman23

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Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 7:21 PM ET #117

I'm on FIRE

UNDER 40.5

LOCK LOCK LOCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fpronk

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Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 7:24 PM ET #118

Quote Originally Posted by bowlinguy12:

Im loving the bills to cover tonight. the bills are on a 3 game losing streak after going undefeated in September, so i am definitely thinking that the bills and Trent Edwards are due for a GREAT game and i think it should be at at home on moday night, infront of the best fans in football!!!

Bills- 27
Browns- 17

LETSSSSSS GOOOOOOO BUFFFFALLOOOOOOOO!!!

No one is ever due for anything..you're not due to cover, players aren't due for big games, and teams aren't due to win. Everyone was on Jacksonville yesterday because the TITANS are due to lose...well, they didn't lose...they won and covered. Are the due to lose this week at home against the JETS? If Buffalo is due isnt Cleveland due?

PAPADON

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Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 7:27 PM ET #119

CLEVELAND & UNDER

PAGER5

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Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 7:29 PM ET #120

Not a bad night for football, OVER

T-REV1

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Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 7:38 PM ET #121

Quote Originally Posted by Sandman23:

I'm on FIRE

UNDER 40.5

LOCK LOCK LOCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thank you...

going over.

bowlinguy12

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Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 7:39 PM ET #122

Quote Originally Posted by Fpronk:

i agree with Tennessee. i bet Tennessee this weekend but i just think that trend Edwards will get back in a groove tonight like he was in all September.