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    handicapped
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 1:03 PM ET #51

    BUF -5 + UND 40.5
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    BUF -5 + UND 40.5
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 1:04 PM ET #52

    ok people this is only an opinion ..last night when they took the 6 points off the score board i won with san diego + 4 1/2..a lot of money was bet on pittsburgh to cover..i mean a lot of MONEY....i knew in my heart that they had to come up with a way to erase that touchdown and i was looking everywhere for a flag...then sure enough they reviewed the play and they say illegal foward pass ha ha..where ???i didnt see it ..neither did they...so the outcome is vegas wins and all the bookies win ..just like it had to be..the way i look at it is this ...we all have a 50/50 chance when we place a bet..i am learning more and more every week on how to choose my pick..remember this there is a penalty on every play if the referee needs to call it..my belief is the games can be fixed to a certain extent..after that touchdown was taken off the scoreboad last night i really believe they call the game the way it needs to be for the money to flow in thier favor...to bet on a favorite team when EVERYONE ELSE is also taking the favorite always remember the bookies are really the favorite..just an opinion..so bet smart and look at each game logically who does the bookie need to win????with all that said good luck to everyone..tonights pick for me is gonna be a last minute decision ...if it is snow than the score will be low ,so be careful.it may be no snow..if that is the case i will tease the game taking clevland +11 and over 34..
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    ok people this is only an opinion ..last night when they took the 6 points off the score board i won with san diego + 4 1/2..a lot of money was bet on pittsburgh to cover..i mean a lot of MONEY....i knew in my heart that they had to come up with a way to erase that touchdown and i was looking everywhere for a flag...then sure enough they reviewed the play and they say illegal foward pass ha ha..where ???i didnt see it ..neither did they...so the outcome is vegas wins and all the bookies win ..just like it had to be..the way i look at it is this ...we all have a 50/50 chance when we place a bet..i am learning more and more every week on how to choose my pick..remember this there is a penalty on every play if the referee needs to call it..my belief is the games can be fixed to a certain extent..after that touchdown was taken off the scoreboad last night i really believe they call the game the way it needs to be for the money to flow in thier favor...to bet on a favorite team when EVERYONE ELSE is also taking the favorite always remember the bookies are really the favorite..just an opinion..so bet smart and look at each game logically who does the bookie need to win????with all that said good luck to everyone..tonights pick for me is gonna be a last minute decision ...if it is snow than the score will be low ,so be careful.it may be no snow..if that is the case i will tease the game taking clevland +11 and over 34..
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 1:14 PM ET #53

      BILLS _5
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      BILLS _5
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 1:14 PM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by Fpronk:

    Browns +5.5
     
    Under 41.5
     
    I have finally realized no matter how much I look at game it really doesn't matter. The players don't have control of the outcome...the refs do...each week there are bad calls that go both ways...some effect the outcome and some don't but we are all just guessing and hoping to be on the opposite side of the bad calls.
     
    I hope I got it right tonight...a winner is always nice.
     
     
    REFS FPRONK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fpronk:

    Browns +5.5
     
    Under 41.5
     
    I have finally realized no matter how much I look at game it really doesn't matter. The players don't have control of the outcome...the refs do...each week there are bad calls that go both ways...some effect the outcome and some don't but we are all just guessing and hoping to be on the opposite side of the bad calls.
     
    I hope I got it right tonight...a winner is always nice.
     
     
    REFS FPRONK!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 1:22 PM ET #55

    THIS GAME SUCKS
     
     
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    THIS GAME SUCKS
     
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 1:34 PM ET #56

    Browns/Bills Over 40.5
     
    Everyone is jumping on the under because of the possibility of snow. Even if it does snow the Bills are used to playing in these conditions and can still get the ball in the endzone. I love the fact that this number has gone down because of the possibility of bad weather. The only guarantee with the weather is that it will be cold. There is no guarantee on the snow.
     
    A few trends to consider:
    -Over is 4-0 in Bills last 4 Monday games.
    -Over is 7-1-1 in Bills last 9 games on turf.
    -Over is 6-1-1 in Bills last 8 home games.
     
    I have 3 units on this play. Let's get the $$$$$$$$$$.
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    Browns/Bills Over 40.5
     
    Everyone is jumping on the under because of the possibility of snow. Even if it does snow the Bills are used to playing in these conditions and can still get the ball in the endzone. I love the fact that this number has gone down because of the possibility of bad weather. The only guarantee with the weather is that it will be cold. There is no guarantee on the snow.
     
    A few trends to consider:
    -Over is 4-0 in Bills last 4 Monday games.
    -Over is 7-1-1 in Bills last 9 games on turf.
    -Over is 6-1-1 in Bills last 8 home games.
     
    I have 3 units on this play. Let's get the $$$$$$$$$$.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 1:38 PM ET #57

    There seems to be a lot of love in here for the Browns, but I think Buffalo is going to cover handily. Quinn played well last week in his debut, but he is going to face a much bigger challenge tonight. He will be making his first road start, in a nasty weather environment, and facing a much tougher defense than the Broncos. The poor weather favors the Bills as well, because I like their ground game more, even though their O-line has had trouble blocking Both teams will have trouble moving the ball via the air, and I like Lynch much more than Lewis. In addition, I think Buffalo has a chip on their shoulder as well, because people are starting to doubt them as they have begin to fade in the past few weeks. Look for the Bills to make some big plays on defense and for the Browns to get stuck in neutral...24-6
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    There seems to be a lot of love in here for the Browns, but I think Buffalo is going to cover handily. Quinn played well last week in his debut, but he is going to face a much bigger challenge tonight. He will be making his first road start, in a nasty weather environment, and facing a much tougher defense than the Broncos. The poor weather favors the Bills as well, because I like their ground game more, even though their O-line has had trouble blocking Both teams will have trouble moving the ball via the air, and I like Lynch much more than Lewis. In addition, I think Buffalo has a chip on their shoulder as well, because people are starting to doubt them as they have begin to fade in the past few weeks. Look for the Bills to make some big plays on defense and for the Browns to get stuck in neutral...24-6
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 1:50 PM ET #58

    https://www.wunderground.com/sports/NFL/hometeam/Buffalo:Bills.html?st=1226957400
     
    Snow showers and light winds should not play a part in an NFL game.  Especially with both teams playing on Lake Erie.  Both teams have suspect secondaries so I think the deep ball will come into play.  Watching the under drop and I will take Cleveland and the Over.
     
    Good Luck
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    https://www.wunderground.com/sports/NFL/hometeam/Buffalo:Bills.html?st=1226957400
     
    Snow showers and light winds should not play a part in an NFL game.  Especially with both teams playing on Lake Erie.  Both teams have suspect secondaries so I think the deep ball will come into play.  Watching the under drop and I will take Cleveland and the Over.
     
    Good Luck
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 1:58 PM ET #59

    Cleve +3 and under 20.5 for the 1st half.
     
    Under 41 for the game, there's no way Cleveland scores and I think their D will hold Buffalo close. It's gonna be run run run for both teams.
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    Cleve +3 and under 20.5 for the 1st half.
     
    Under 41 for the game, there's no way Cleveland scores and I think their D will hold Buffalo close. It's gonna be run run run for both teams.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 2:14 PM ET #60

    I'm going under......
    Is it true that Refs are on the Vegas payroll?
    I believe this to be very true.
    So we're not just playing the house but the refs too.
    Sooooooooooo be it.
    F-em both!!!
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    I'm going under......
    Is it true that Refs are on the Vegas payroll?
    I believe this to be very true.
    So we're not just playing the house but the refs too.
    Sooooooooooo be it.
    F-em both!!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 2:19 PM ET #61

    I am with you Fpronk for the browns however i am on the other side with the total.  The weather shouldn't play a huge factor in this game in fact i believe that flurries are all that is expected.  I have a friend there so i will give updates if anything is worth talking about.  I see CLE in the upper 20's and BUF between 17-21 tonight.  GL to all of you.
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    I am with you Fpronk for the browns however i am on the other side with the total.  The weather shouldn't play a huge factor in this game in fact i believe that flurries are all that is expected.  I have a friend there so i will give updates if anything is worth talking about.  I see CLE in the upper 20's and BUF between 17-21 tonight.  GL to all of you.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 2:26 PM ET #62

    Quote Originally Posted by wideopen911:

    ok people this is only an opinion ..last night when they took the 6 points off the score board i won with san diego + 4 1/2..a lot of money was bet on pittsburgh to cover..i mean a lot of MONEY....i knew in my heart that they had to come up with a way to erase that touchdown and i was looking everywhere for a flag...then sure enough they reviewed the play and they say illegal foward pass ha ha..where ???i didnt see it ..neither did they...so the outcome is vegas wins and all the bookies win ..just like it had to be..the way i look at it is this ...we all have a 50/50 chance when we place a bet..i am learning more and more every week on how to choose my pick..remember this there is a penalty on every play if the referee needs to call it..my belief is the games can be fixed to a certain extent..after that touchdown was taken off the scoreboad last night i really believe they call the game the way it needs to be for the money to flow in thier favor...to bet on a favorite team when EVERYONE ELSE is also taking the favorite always remember the bookies are really the favorite..just an opinion..so bet smart and look at each game logically who does the bookie need to win????with all that said good luck to everyone..tonights pick for me is gonna be a last minute decision ...if it is snow than the score will be low ,so be careful.it may be no snow..if that is the case i will tease the game taking clevland +11 and over 34..

    AMEN!!!  - been saying this for years...most people think I'm crazy, some people I know don't even watch pro-wrestling, I mean NFL, anymore after they started paying attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wideopen911:

    ok people this is only an opinion ..last night when they took the 6 points off the score board i won with san diego + 4 1/2..a lot of money was bet on pittsburgh to cover..i mean a lot of MONEY....i knew in my heart that they had to come up with a way to erase that touchdown and i was looking everywhere for a flag...then sure enough they reviewed the play and they say illegal foward pass ha ha..where ???i didnt see it ..neither did they...so the outcome is vegas wins and all the bookies win ..just like it had to be..the way i look at it is this ...we all have a 50/50 chance when we place a bet..i am learning more and more every week on how to choose my pick..remember this there is a penalty on every play if the referee needs to call it..my belief is the games can be fixed to a certain extent..after that touchdown was taken off the scoreboad last night i really believe they call the game the way it needs to be for the money to flow in thier favor...to bet on a favorite team when EVERYONE ELSE is also taking the favorite always remember the bookies are really the favorite..just an opinion..so bet smart and look at each game logically who does the bookie need to win????with all that said good luck to everyone..tonights pick for me is gonna be a last minute decision ...if it is snow than the score will be low ,so be careful.it may be no snow..if that is the case i will tease the game taking clevland +11 and over 34..

    AMEN!!!  - been saying this for years...most people think I'm crazy, some people I know don't even watch pro-wrestling, I mean NFL, anymore after they started paying attention.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 2:28 PM ET #63

    Quote Originally Posted by BombaBookie:

    I'm going under......
    Is it true that Refs are on the Vegas payroll?
    I believe this to be very true.
    So we're not just playing the house but the refs too.
    Sooooooooooo be it.
    F-em both!!!

    NFL and Vegas work together - refs only taking orders

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    Quote Originally Posted by BombaBookie:

    I'm going under......
    Is it true that Refs are on the Vegas payroll?
    I believe this to be very true.
    So we're not just playing the house but the refs too.
    Sooooooooooo be it.
    F-em both!!!

    NFL and Vegas work together - refs only taking orders

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 2:32 PM ET #64

    Quote Originally Posted by BombaBookie:

    I'm going under......
    Is it true that Refs are on the Vegas payroll?
    I believe this to be very true.
    So we're not just playing the house but the refs too.
    Sooooooooooo be it.
    F-em both!!!

    WOW.... THAT IS A VERY CLEVER NAME... DID YOU THINK ABOUT THAT ALL BY YOURSELF???

    it's ok, I'll share it... we all know there is only one....

    Love the Browns getting the points the more I research.....

    MNF always goes OVER.... well except for Pitt vs. Wash....

    can't go against that unbelievable trend....

    UNDERDOG in the OVER 

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    Quote Originally Posted by BombaBookie:

    I'm going under......
    Is it true that Refs are on the Vegas payroll?
    I believe this to be very true.
    So we're not just playing the house but the refs too.
    Sooooooooooo be it.
    F-em both!!!

    WOW.... THAT IS A VERY CLEVER NAME... DID YOU THINK ABOUT THAT ALL BY YOURSELF???

    it's ok, I'll share it... we all know there is only one....

    Love the Browns getting the points the more I research.....

    MNF always goes OVER.... well except for Pitt vs. Wash....

    can't go against that unbelievable trend....

    UNDERDOG in the OVER 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 2:39 PM ET #65

     Edwards opened the season with six touchdowns and two interceptions in his first six games, but has since thrown two touchdowns and five interceptions in his last three.
     
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     Edwards opened the season with six touchdowns and two interceptions in his first six games, but has since thrown two touchdowns and five interceptions in his last three.
     
    courtesy of NFL.com
     
    atlheatholder
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 2:51 PM ET #66

    Over 41 1/2
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    Over 41 1/2
     
    bowlinguy12
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 2:56 PM ET #67

    THE BILLS PLAY ABSOLUTELY AMAZING ON MONDAY NIGHTS!!

    THE BILLS WIN WIN THIS BY 10+ EASY $$$


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    THE BILLS PLAY ABSOLUTELY AMAZING ON MONDAY NIGHTS!!

    THE BILLS WIN WIN THIS BY 10+ EASY $$$


     
    thegreek099
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 2:58 PM ET #68

    buffalo and the over
    and if cleveland was home i would pick them, way too tough to choose here, just go with the home team and wait for points
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    buffalo and the over
    and if cleveland was home i would pick them, way too tough to choose here, just go with the home team and wait for points
     
    FlyingDutchman
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 3:17 PM ET #69

    BigDaddy-
     
    updated weather looks pretty good. winds at about 10-20 mph. there will be light flurries at times, but the weather report said there are no organized snow bands, most of the snow expected shouldnt be hitting until after the game tonight. Ill try to get one more update close to game time from the stadium for you guys. GL all
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    BigDaddy-
     
    updated weather looks pretty good. winds at about 10-20 mph. there will be light flurries at times, but the weather report said there are no organized snow bands, most of the snow expected shouldnt be hitting until after the game tonight. Ill try to get one more update close to game time from the stadium for you guys. GL all
     
    jojo121873
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 3:18 PM ET #70

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Covers:

    Away:  Cleveland [5-4 ATS]
    Home:  Buffalo [4-5 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:30 PM
    Stadium: Ralph Wilson Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Cleveland:
    Passing: Derek Anderson (1454)
    Rushing: Jamal Lewis (593)
    Receiving: Braylon Edwards (472)

    Buffalo:
    Passing: Trent Edwards (1845)
    Rushing: Marshawn Lynch (523)
    Receiving: Lee Evans (700)

    More:
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    , Washington vs pittsburgh 23-9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Covers:

    Away:  Cleveland [5-4 ATS]
    Home:  Buffalo [4-5 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:30 PM
    Stadium: Ralph Wilson Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Cleveland:
    Passing: Derek Anderson (1454)
    Rushing: Jamal Lewis (593)
    Receiving: Braylon Edwards (472)

    Buffalo:
    Passing: Trent Edwards (1845)
    Rushing: Marshawn Lynch (523)
    Receiving: Lee Evans (700)

    More:
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    In-Depth Matchup Information
    Consensus Betting Information

    , Washington vs pittsburgh 23-9
     
    jojo121873
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 3:21 PM ET #71

    washington vs pitt was under and the pats denver was a push!
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    washington vs pitt was under and the pats denver was a push!
     
    BreakaBookie
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 3:25 PM ET #72

    other than those 2 this year every one has been in the OVER!
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    other than those 2 this year every one has been in the OVER!
     
    bigdaddyhpd
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 4:10 PM ET #73

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingDutchman:

    BigDaddy-
     
    updated weather looks pretty good. winds at about 10-20 mph. there will be light flurries at times, but the weather report said there are no organized snow bands, most of the snow expected shouldnt be hitting until after the game tonight. Ill try to get one more update close to game time from the stadium for you guys. GL all

    Thanks bro

    I'll lay off this one and invest more on Tues instead.

    Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingDutchman:

    BigDaddy-
     
    updated weather looks pretty good. winds at about 10-20 mph. there will be light flurries at times, but the weather report said there are no organized snow bands, most of the snow expected shouldnt be hitting until after the game tonight. Ill try to get one more update close to game time from the stadium for you guys. GL all

    Thanks bro

    I'll lay off this one and invest more on Tues instead.

    Good luck

     
    tgallus33emu
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 4:28 PM ET #74

    Cleveland +11
    Under 46
    Don't love it, but seems safe
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    Cleveland +11
    Under 46
    Don't love it, but seems safe
     
     
    LuaVao
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2008 - 4:33 PM ET #75

    hey guy how about just flip a coin for tonite!! rol
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    hey guy how about just flip a coin for tonite!! rol
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