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    Baltimore at Washington (12/09/2012)

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    XSixburghX
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2012 - 9:33 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by Spytheweb:

    The books know the public is going to be on Washington, so they setup for a Washington loss. Why isn't Washington at least a -3.0 favorite? Because they don't want to give the Ravens points.

    Ravens +1.0.
    Personally, the only situation I wouldn't take the Redskins is if the line were to move above -3. Right now it's -2.5. This by no means a sure pick, but I'm confidant Washington will pull this out. Not because of last week's loss to the Steelers. But if you've watched and followed the Ravens this season like I have, you'll notice that they simply are NOT the same team that they used to be in the past. The defense can't stop the run and the secondary is suffering without Webb. Ngata hasn't been the same force he was last year. Suggs (if he even plays), who knows how effective he'll be with the torn bicep.

    To me, this a lot of red flags for Baltimore. They've played horrible for three week in a row, and in finally caught up to them last week. The Redskins however have been rolling, winning three straight. Washington's offense matches up so well against that banged up Ravens defense.

    Now unless the Redskins play defense like they did last week against the Giants, Flacco could have a very good game as well. So far this year he has under preformed on the road, to say the least. But this is a secondary that has given up a lot of yards and big plays. Maybe the Redskins have turned a new leaf, but not likely. Expect this game to go down to the last possession.

    My guess

    Redskins 30
    Ravens 27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spytheweb:

    The books know the public is going to be on Washington, so they setup for a Washington loss. Why isn't Washington at least a -3.0 favorite? Because they don't want to give the Ravens points.

    Ravens +1.0.
    Personally, the only situation I wouldn't take the Redskins is if the line were to move above -3. Right now it's -2.5. This by no means a sure pick, but I'm confidant Washington will pull this out. Not because of last week's loss to the Steelers. But if you've watched and followed the Ravens this season like I have, you'll notice that they simply are NOT the same team that they used to be in the past. The defense can't stop the run and the secondary is suffering without Webb. Ngata hasn't been the same force he was last year. Suggs (if he even plays), who knows how effective he'll be with the torn bicep.

    To me, this a lot of red flags for Baltimore. They've played horrible for three week in a row, and in finally caught up to them last week. The Redskins however have been rolling, winning three straight. Washington's offense matches up so well against that banged up Ravens defense.

    Now unless the Redskins play defense like they did last week against the Giants, Flacco could have a very good game as well. So far this year he has under preformed on the road, to say the least. But this is a secondary that has given up a lot of yards and big plays. Maybe the Redskins have turned a new leaf, but not likely. Expect this game to go down to the last possession.

    My guess

    Redskins 30
    Ravens 27
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2012 - 11:04 AM ET #27

    Baltimore +7 
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2012 - 1:40 PM ET #28

    Flacco has never had s HUGE game? Baltimore would have been in the Superbowl last year if billy cuntdick didn't miss a game winning field goal. Hello!
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    Flacco has never had s HUGE game? Baltimore would have been in the Superbowl last year if billy cuntdick didn't miss a game winning field goal. Hello!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2012 - 1:52 PM ET #29

    Look at the last 3 wins for the Skins, or as everyone in the world has pegged "The team that could beat anyone right now"

    Terrible Eagles
    Terrible Cowboys
    Giants rd 2 with a lucky fumble for td and a rare miss from Tynes

    Think there will be a lot of scoring and will probably play the over, but if this thing gets to 3 points ill thank the public and take the points
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    Look at the last 3 wins for the Skins, or as everyone in the world has pegged "The team that could beat anyone right now"

    Terrible Eagles
    Terrible Cowboys
    Giants rd 2 with a lucky fumble for td and a rare miss from Tynes

    Think there will be a lot of scoring and will probably play the over, but if this thing gets to 3 points ill thank the public and take the points
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2012 - 2:13 PM ET #30

    ravens 

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    ravens 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2012 - 2:43 PM ET #31

    It was actually a dropped game winning TD and then a missed game tying FG. but you get my drift.
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    It was actually a dropped game winning TD and then a missed game tying FG. but you get my drift.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2012 - 2:54 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy_Ace:

    You are totally right. I completly forgot about that angle. But in this case, I think it holds less meaning because the Redskins are coming off the shorter work week from the Monday Night game. 

    For some damn reason, I am just looking for a way to fade this RG III mania. I think Baltimore is the better team and I like that they are coming off a loss. The Skins are starting to get a little too much respect. So they beat the Eagles, Cowboys, and Giants since their bye week. I don't like their chances of winning 4 in a row, something they haven't done all season. And I don't like the chances of the Ravens losing 2 in a row. Something they also haven't done all season.

    Good luck


    True, True. There are so many ways/angles to look at the game from. That's what makes this a tricky business is to figure out and decipher between the correct winning angles, and the losing, illusionary angles. (lol)

    I agree with what Sixburgh said above. Baltimore doesn't seem to be quite the same team lately, and ever since Rey Lewis was injured a few weeks back, they've looked even worse. Although they've always been suspect on the road, they barely beat the Chargers in that game a couple of weeks ago...they were super dominant at home as well, winning over 20 in a row during the regular season I believe...and then now they just lost to Pitt at home, which you would think they would of been up for that game.

    Also the streaky thing is tricky...as you wouldn't expect a good team to lose 2 in a row..but I think losing 2 in a row is more likely than losing 1 game if you can see my point on how things come in streaks, it's almost a no play here, as this could be a classic coin flip matchup we're looking at. I would go with the teaser rather than the spread on this one, Baltimore or Redskins, either should be ok on the teaser
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy_Ace:

    You are totally right. I completly forgot about that angle. But in this case, I think it holds less meaning because the Redskins are coming off the shorter work week from the Monday Night game. 

    For some damn reason, I am just looking for a way to fade this RG III mania. I think Baltimore is the better team and I like that they are coming off a loss. The Skins are starting to get a little too much respect. So they beat the Eagles, Cowboys, and Giants since their bye week. I don't like their chances of winning 4 in a row, something they haven't done all season. And I don't like the chances of the Ravens losing 2 in a row. Something they also haven't done all season.

    Good luck


    True, True. There are so many ways/angles to look at the game from. That's what makes this a tricky business is to figure out and decipher between the correct winning angles, and the losing, illusionary angles. (lol)

    I agree with what Sixburgh said above. Baltimore doesn't seem to be quite the same team lately, and ever since Rey Lewis was injured a few weeks back, they've looked even worse. Although they've always been suspect on the road, they barely beat the Chargers in that game a couple of weeks ago...they were super dominant at home as well, winning over 20 in a row during the regular season I believe...and then now they just lost to Pitt at home, which you would think they would of been up for that game.

    Also the streaky thing is tricky...as you wouldn't expect a good team to lose 2 in a row..but I think losing 2 in a row is more likely than losing 1 game if you can see my point on how things come in streaks, it's almost a no play here, as this could be a classic coin flip matchup we're looking at. I would go with the teaser rather than the spread on this one, Baltimore or Redskins, either should be ok on the teaser
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2012 - 4:39 PM ET #33

    GIANTS GOT FLAG WHIPPED AGAINST THE SKINS...  EVERYONE ON THE REDSKIN EXPRESS!

    RAVENS

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    GIANTS GOT FLAG WHIPPED AGAINST THE SKINS...  EVERYONE ON THE REDSKIN EXPRESS!

    RAVENS

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2012 - 5:15 PM ET #34

    RG3's team is 6-6.  A fuble that pooped"" into the WR's hands and goes in for a TD is not something you get excited about.  The Ravens will show up on Sunday, and don't be shocked if Haloti Ngata sits on him.  Baltimore +3
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    RG3's team is 6-6.  A fuble that pooped"" into the WR's hands and goes in for a TD is not something you get excited about.  The Ravens will show up on Sunday, and don't be shocked if Haloti Ngata sits on him.  Baltimore +3
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2012 - 6:20 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by nyyanks23:

    Flacco has never had s HUGE game? Baltimore would have been in the Superbowl last year if billy cuntdick didn't miss a game winning field goal. Hello!

    Last year bro. It's 2012 , different team, different Flacco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyyanks23:

    Flacco has never had s HUGE game? Baltimore would have been in the Superbowl last year if billy cuntdick didn't miss a game winning field goal. Hello!

    Last year bro. It's 2012 , different team, different Flacco.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2012 - 7:35 PM ET #36

    Redskins on the road is a risky proposition. I have Washington in a parlay. I wish I had off just laid off this game entirely as their are to many unknowns but I know Flacco and the Ravens on the road there is no way I would take the Ravens for that reason.  Coming off a physical match with Pitt makes the situation for Balti worse. I have had the shittiest year this year but I found a way to make money anyways at this fantasy site. Playing against one or multiple players. Like taking candy from a baby and they accept credit cards and paypal as it is considered a skill game so it is legal in 49 states. Check it out guys. Let's make some money!!!

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    Redskins on the road is a risky proposition. I have Washington in a parlay. I wish I had off just laid off this game entirely as their are to many unknowns but I know Flacco and the Ravens on the road there is no way I would take the Ravens for that reason.  Coming off a physical match with Pitt makes the situation for Balti worse. I have had the shittiest year this year but I found a way to make money anyways at this fantasy site. Playing against one or multiple players. Like taking candy from a baby and they accept credit cards and paypal as it is considered a skill game so it is legal in 49 states. Check it out guys. Let's make some money!!!

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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2012 - 7:37 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by UHQB:

    Flacco a huge game ? This is something VUE would write. Flacco doesn't know what a huge game is. He's pathetic period ! I wouldn't trust Flacco with your first born child.  

    Hey -I thought you were going to have a moratorium on bashing me. Yeah- OK- I'm awful on the college threads, but this is my playpen! Start showing a little respect, and lighten up, man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by UHQB:

    Flacco a huge game ? This is something VUE would write. Flacco doesn't know what a huge game is. He's pathetic period ! I wouldn't trust Flacco with your first born child.  

    Hey -I thought you were going to have a moratorium on bashing me. Yeah- OK- I'm awful on the college threads, but this is my playpen! Start showing a little respect, and lighten up, man!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2012 - 10:09 PM ET #38

    Did you see how much oxygen J.P.P., Tuck, and the rest of the Giants "D" line was sucking on the sidelines after chasing R.G. III around for 3 plus quarters last week? The announcers even mentioned something about it during the game.

    Now, insert Ngata and a gimpy Suggs, no Lewis across the middle, and the Ravens on the road in that scenario?

    I'll take the "Skinahans" one more time............... 

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    Did you see how much oxygen J.P.P., Tuck, and the rest of the Giants "D" line was sucking on the sidelines after chasing R.G. III around for 3 plus quarters last week? The announcers even mentioned something about it during the game.

    Now, insert Ngata and a gimpy Suggs, no Lewis across the middle, and the Ravens on the road in that scenario?

    I'll take the "Skinahans" one more time............... 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2012 - 5:41 PM ET #39

    i love when i see Vue on the opposite side.  and once again, hes attracted to the team thats been actin like more of the "loser" these days while Skins are on a roll.  why should RG3 have to come down to earth now?  cuzz Ravens just let Charlie Batch beat them?  and now Ravens will be without thier stud linebacker Suggs to stop him. 

    love Skins at home fighting for the wild card spot.  at least u know ur gonna get some scores out of RG3 / Morris & Co.  but u just cant count on that inconsistent offense of baltimore's.....

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    i love when i see Vue on the opposite side.  and once again, hes attracted to the team thats been actin like more of the "loser" these days while Skins are on a roll.  why should RG3 have to come down to earth now?  cuzz Ravens just let Charlie Batch beat them?  and now Ravens will be without thier stud linebacker Suggs to stop him. 

    love Skins at home fighting for the wild card spot.  at least u know ur gonna get some scores out of RG3 / Morris & Co.  but u just cant count on that inconsistent offense of baltimore's.....

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2012 - 7:01 PM ET #41

    In case no one has noticed Baltimore's offense sucks as of late.The reason Flacco gets no respect is because he deserves no respect. Baltimore will not be able to keep up with RG3 at home.

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    In case no one has noticed Baltimore's offense sucks as of late.The reason Flacco gets no respect is because he deserves no respect. Baltimore will not be able to keep up with RG3 at home.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2012 - 8:02 PM ET #42

    Washington one of the 5 Super Power Plays posted on the Indianapolis vs. Tennessee Board!

    Washington minus 1 over Baltimore!

    BOL                                       

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    Washington one of the 5 Super Power Plays posted on the Indianapolis vs. Tennessee Board!

    Washington minus 1 over Baltimore!

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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2012 - 8:35 PM ET #43

    RG3 in on Mission. He was raised by two members of the ARMY he doesn't break down. He wants to win. 

    Ravens couldn't beat THE Chargers by more than TD. Chargers suck. They got know one. What do you think RG3 is going to do vs the RAVENS. 

    beat down.
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    RG3 in on Mission. He was raised by two members of the ARMY he doesn't break down. He wants to win. 

    Ravens couldn't beat THE Chargers by more than TD. Chargers suck. They got know one. What do you think RG3 is going to do vs the RAVENS. 

    beat down.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2012 - 8:41 PM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by joedaddy76:

    i love when i see Vue on the opposite side.  and once again, hes attracted to the team thats been actin like more of the "loser" these days while Skins are on a roll.  why should RG3 have to come down to earth now?  cuzz Ravens just let Charlie Batch beat them?  and now Ravens will be without thier stud linebacker Suggs to stop him. 

    love Skins at home fighting for the wild card spot.  at least u know ur gonna get some scores out of RG3 / Morris & Co.  but u just cant count on that inconsistent offense of baltimore's.....

    Actually I also love being on the other side. That means you're about to lose. Hey, even your  buddy Sammy agrees with me. Ahh- too bad you're alone in your loser world-boo hoo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by joedaddy76:

    i love when i see Vue on the opposite side.  and once again, hes attracted to the team thats been actin like more of the "loser" these days while Skins are on a roll.  why should RG3 have to come down to earth now?  cuzz Ravens just let Charlie Batch beat them?  and now Ravens will be without thier stud linebacker Suggs to stop him. 

    love Skins at home fighting for the wild card spot.  at least u know ur gonna get some scores out of RG3 / Morris & Co.  but u just cant count on that inconsistent offense of baltimore's.....

    Actually I also love being on the other side. That means you're about to lose. Hey, even your  buddy Sammy agrees with me. Ahh- too bad you're alone in your loser world-boo hoo!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2012 - 10:30 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by RedStick:

    RG3 looking good and at home this Skins team can beat anybody!

    THEY CAN LOSE TO ANYBODY AS WELL AS THEIR RECORD MIGHT INDICATE.  ALTHOUGH THEY MAY TAKE OFF FROM HERE, THEY HAVE PROVEN NOTHING.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedStick:

    RG3 looking good and at home this Skins team can beat anybody!

    THEY CAN LOSE TO ANYBODY AS WELL AS THEIR RECORD MIGHT INDICATE.  ALTHOUGH THEY MAY TAKE OFF FROM HERE, THEY HAVE PROVEN NOTHING.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2012 - 12:01 AM ET #46

    Balt team falling apart at the arms. Wash for the large.
    If you’re not large, you’re small - the DOC
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    Balt team falling apart at the arms. Wash for the large.
     
    ssuller
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2012 - 1:48 AM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by XSixburghX:

    Personally, the only situation I wouldn't take the Redskins is if the line were to move above -3. Right now it's -2.5. This by no means a sure pick, but I'm confidant Washington will pull this out. Not because of last week's loss to the Steelers. But if you've watched and followed the Ravens this season like I have, you'll notice that they simply are NOT the same team that they used to be in the past. The defense can't stop the run and the secondary is suffering without Webb. Ngata hasn't been the same force he was last year. Suggs (if he even plays), who knows how effective he'll be with the torn bicep.

    To me, this a lot of red flags for Baltimore. They've played horrible for three week in a row, and in finally caught up to them last week. The Redskins however have been rolling, winning three straight. Washington's offense matches up so well against that banged up Ravens defense.

    Now unless the Redskins play defense like they did last week against the Giants, Flacco could have a very good game as well. So far this year he has under preformed on the road, to say the least. But this is a secondary that has given up a lot of yards and big plays. Maybe the Redskins have turned a new leaf, but not likely. Expect this game to go down to the last possession.

    My guess

    Redskins 30
    Ravens 27



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    Quote Originally Posted by XSixburghX:

    Personally, the only situation I wouldn't take the Redskins is if the line were to move above -3. Right now it's -2.5. This by no means a sure pick, but I'm confidant Washington will pull this out. Not because of last week's loss to the Steelers. But if you've watched and followed the Ravens this season like I have, you'll notice that they simply are NOT the same team that they used to be in the past. The defense can't stop the run and the secondary is suffering without Webb. Ngata hasn't been the same force he was last year. Suggs (if he even plays), who knows how effective he'll be with the torn bicep.

    To me, this a lot of red flags for Baltimore. They've played horrible for three week in a row, and in finally caught up to them last week. The Redskins however have been rolling, winning three straight. Washington's offense matches up so well against that banged up Ravens defense.

    Now unless the Redskins play defense like they did last week against the Giants, Flacco could have a very good game as well. So far this year he has under preformed on the road, to say the least. But this is a secondary that has given up a lot of yards and big plays. Maybe the Redskins have turned a new leaf, but not likely. Expect this game to go down to the last possession.

    My guess

    Redskins 30
    Ravens 27



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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2012 - 2:34 AM ET #48

    WAS -1 (1u) - SCORE: Ravens 21-Redskins 24
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    WAS -1 (1u) - SCORE: Ravens 21-Redskins 24
     
    Hekili1
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2012 - 4:09 AM ET #49

    My scientific research says to pick the Ravens...cause Cowherd says so!  He's clicking at 70%!
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    My scientific research says to pick the Ravens...cause Cowherd says so!  He's clicking at 70%!
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2012 - 4:32 AM ET #50

    If the Ravens weren't so offensively bad on the road, and had a healthy Suggs, Lewis, or both I'd be all over Baltimore. The Ravens have been getting gashed on the ground all year long, and here comes the Skins averaging over 160 yds/game. I've personally never torn my bicept but a guy I work with has, and he told me if Suggs can run around and tackle guys the size of Alfred Morris, then he can probably stop a bullet too. I can't see how he can be effective stopping what Washington does well. The Redskins are more afraid of Eli Manning than they are of Joe Flacco, so I look to them to load the box to stop Ray Rice and force Flacco to beat them with his arm.

    I know the Ravens have a good record and beat Pittsburgh and Byron Leftwich on the road, but their other road wins this season were against Kansas City, San Diego, Cleveland, and road losses to Houston and (ugh...) Philadelphia.

    I wouldn't trust Flacco's arm to score on my high school team right now.....

    Washington -1

    GL all...

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    If the Ravens weren't so offensively bad on the road, and had a healthy Suggs, Lewis, or both I'd be all over Baltimore. The Ravens have been getting gashed on the ground all year long, and here comes the Skins averaging over 160 yds/game. I've personally never torn my bicept but a guy I work with has, and he told me if Suggs can run around and tackle guys the size of Alfred Morris, then he can probably stop a bullet too. I can't see how he can be effective stopping what Washington does well. The Redskins are more afraid of Eli Manning than they are of Joe Flacco, so I look to them to load the box to stop Ray Rice and force Flacco to beat them with his arm.

    I know the Ravens have a good record and beat Pittsburgh and Byron Leftwich on the road, but their other road wins this season were against Kansas City, San Diego, Cleveland, and road losses to Houston and (ugh...) Philadelphia.

    I wouldn't trust Flacco's arm to score on my high school team right now.....

    Washington -1

    GL all...

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