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    Baltimore at Houston (11/09/2008)

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    Mr_Covers
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2008 - 12:43 AM ET #1

    Away:  Baltimore [6-2 ATS]
    Home:  Houston [2-6 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Reliant Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Baltimore:
    Passing: Joe Flacco (1464)
    Rushing: Willis McGahee (351)
    Receiving: Derrick Mason (557)

    Houston:
    Passing: Matt Schaub (1762)
    Rushing: Steve Slaton (538)
    Receiving: Andre Johnson (834)

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    Away:  Baltimore [6-2 ATS]
    Home:  Houston [2-6 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Reliant Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Baltimore:
    Passing: Joe Flacco (1464)
    Rushing: Willis McGahee (351)
    Receiving: Derrick Mason (557)

    Houston:
    Passing: Matt Schaub (1762)
    Rushing: Steve Slaton (538)
    Receiving: Andre Johnson (834)

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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2008 - 10:53 AM ET #2

    ravens
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    ravens
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2008 - 11:12 AM ET #3

    with Matt Schaub out this should be a cake walk for the Ravens. The Ravens were able to protect Flacco well from Big Baby, Shaun Rogers and Ray Rice had an incredible day. At this game currently at pick, lock it in for the Ravens.
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    with Matt Schaub out this should be a cake walk for the Ravens. The Ravens were able to protect Flacco well from Big Baby, Shaun Rogers and Ray Rice had an incredible day. At this game currently at pick, lock it in for the Ravens.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2008 - 1:49 PM ET #4

    Ravens no.1 Run D will force Sage to pass, and the no.4 pass D isn't gonna get beat by him. Also the Texans allow at least 27 almost every game. Ravens will out-physical them and get the win.
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    Ravens no.1 Run D will force Sage to pass, and the no.4 pass D isn't gonna get beat by him. Also the Texans allow at least 27 almost every game. Ravens will out-physical them and get the win.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2008 - 6:29 PM ET #5

    Texans will score, even against the Ravens D. What'd the Browns score last week, 27? I'm not really sure if Rosenfels is a drop off from Schaub. Everyone needs an Andre Johnson. Texans problem is they can't stop shit on defense.
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    Texans will score, even against the Ravens D. What'd the Browns score last week, 27? I'm not really sure if Rosenfels is a drop off from Schaub. Everyone needs an Andre Johnson. Texans problem is they can't stop shit on defense.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2008 - 8:07 PM ET #6

    Agree with all 3 posts but like the Ravens -1.  They'll win the turnover battle and points from them, which will be the key.
     
     
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    Agree with all 3 posts but like the Ravens -1.  They'll win the turnover battle and points from them, which will be the key.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 3:12 PM ET #7

    This line is a little fishy??? I'm thinking that Houston might be the play here. Seems like Vegas knows something we don't know.
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    This line is a little fishy??? I'm thinking that Houston might be the play here. Seems like Vegas knows something we don't know.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 3:16 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by mleavers2000:

    This line is a little fishy??? I'm thinking that Houston might be the play here. Seems like Vegas knows something we don't know.

    Just doing a little homework, Houston has been a much better team at home this year (3-1), but they've beat bad teams at home. The only team that's decent is Miami. The other 2 wins were against Cincy and Detroit. 

    One more note, Indy game could have easily been a Houston win, and I think that was also in Houston? Maybe that explains the line. In any case, Baltimore +1 seems too good to be true so I'll probably stay away from this one.

    GL. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by mleavers2000:

    This line is a little fishy??? I'm thinking that Houston might be the play here. Seems like Vegas knows something we don't know.

    Just doing a little homework, Houston has been a much better team at home this year (3-1), but they've beat bad teams at home. The only team that's decent is Miami. The other 2 wins were against Cincy and Detroit. 

    One more note, Indy game could have easily been a Houston win, and I think that was also in Houston? Maybe that explains the line. In any case, Baltimore +1 seems too good to be true so I'll probably stay away from this one.

    GL. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 7:26 PM ET #9

    Texans best tackler Zac Diles, LB, is out for the year.
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    Texans best tackler Zac Diles, LB, is out for the year.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2008 - 2:14 AM ET #10

    Leaning Over 41.5
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    Leaning Over 41.5
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2008 - 2:39 AM ET #11

    I HEARD THAT TEXANS QB IS OUT..HOW IS THEIR BACKUP? I LOVE THE OVER ON THIS GAME...THE BEST BET OF THE WEEK..ITS PROBABLY RISEN SINCE MONDAY...I GOT IT AT 42 BUT IT WAS 41.5 HERE IN LAS VEGAS JUST HOURS BEFORE.
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    I HEARD THAT TEXANS QB IS OUT..HOW IS THEIR BACKUP? I LOVE THE OVER ON THIS GAME...THE BEST BET OF THE WEEK..ITS PROBABLY RISEN SINCE MONDAY...I GOT IT AT 42 BUT IT WAS 41.5 HERE IN LAS VEGAS JUST HOURS BEFORE.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2008 - 3:07 AM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyjammer:

    I HEARD THAT TEXANS QB IS OUT..HOW IS THEIR BACKUP? I LOVE THE OVER ON THIS GAME...THE BEST BET OF THE WEEK..ITS PROBABLY RISEN SINCE MONDAY...I GOT IT AT 42 BUT IT WAS 41.5 HERE IN LAS VEGAS JUST HOURS BEFORE.

    sage rosenfels ... nothing prolific, but it seems like every time he replaces shaub he does at LEAST as good as him if not outperforms him, so i'm really not worried enough about that. 

    I am strictly playing the spread here, because i almost don't even get this... i was a little weird playing miami when they beat the bulls, but i think maybe because i don't get these teams quite as much in the way that the ravens will occassionally just tank games and the texans randomly just show up.  but as far as playing the spread, it just makes no sense that vegas would drop a spread with the texans as two point favorites knowing that everyone and their dog will go to town on baltimore as dogs against the texans... well they did and now the spread caved and the favorite flipped, in these cases it normally pays off to play the team that STARTED as the favorite.

    well, for whatever reason, vegas has me convinced that if the ravens were going to win this game, they would have been at least 3 point favorites, and since they're not and the public has jumped on their backs, i will roll with the texans here... might be tight, but vegas has me pretty sure they win this one...

    HOU +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyjammer:

    I HEARD THAT TEXANS QB IS OUT..HOW IS THEIR BACKUP? I LOVE THE OVER ON THIS GAME...THE BEST BET OF THE WEEK..ITS PROBABLY RISEN SINCE MONDAY...I GOT IT AT 42 BUT IT WAS 41.5 HERE IN LAS VEGAS JUST HOURS BEFORE.

    sage rosenfels ... nothing prolific, but it seems like every time he replaces shaub he does at LEAST as good as him if not outperforms him, so i'm really not worried enough about that. 

    I am strictly playing the spread here, because i almost don't even get this... i was a little weird playing miami when they beat the bulls, but i think maybe because i don't get these teams quite as much in the way that the ravens will occassionally just tank games and the texans randomly just show up.  but as far as playing the spread, it just makes no sense that vegas would drop a spread with the texans as two point favorites knowing that everyone and their dog will go to town on baltimore as dogs against the texans... well they did and now the spread caved and the favorite flipped, in these cases it normally pays off to play the team that STARTED as the favorite.

    well, for whatever reason, vegas has me convinced that if the ravens were going to win this game, they would have been at least 3 point favorites, and since they're not and the public has jumped on their backs, i will roll with the texans here... might be tight, but vegas has me pretty sure they win this one...

    HOU +1

     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2008 - 12:54 PM ET #13

    Die Hard Texans fan- never post, but follow all of the threads here.  Houston came out favored because they are a great home team with good offense - the loss to Indy seemed like a fluke (with Sage turning it over twice in 2 minutes).  Since all the early money went on Baltimore (which is the play) Vegas moved the line rapidly because they don't want to back Houston here.  Rosenfels is a great quarterback who can throw better that Schaub and is more poised.  However, he makes bad decisions that result in fumbles.  Houston's D can't stop the run and with Zac Diles out it gets worse.  The offense won't be able to run so they will go to the air and end up turning it over.  If Rosenfels gets hurt against a great Baltimore D - Houston has Craig Nall backing him up - not something I want to see.  I don't bet against my team so I am staying clear of this game.
    Baltimore -1
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    Die Hard Texans fan- never post, but follow all of the threads here.  Houston came out favored because they are a great home team with good offense - the loss to Indy seemed like a fluke (with Sage turning it over twice in 2 minutes).  Since all the early money went on Baltimore (which is the play) Vegas moved the line rapidly because they don't want to back Houston here.  Rosenfels is a great quarterback who can throw better that Schaub and is more poised.  However, he makes bad decisions that result in fumbles.  Houston's D can't stop the run and with Zac Diles out it gets worse.  The offense won't be able to run so they will go to the air and end up turning it over.  If Rosenfels gets hurt against a great Baltimore D - Houston has Craig Nall backing him up - not something I want to see.  I don't bet against my team so I am staying clear of this game.
    Baltimore -1
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2008 - 2:34 PM ET #14

    gotta go balt here,looking @ under also.
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    gotta go balt here,looking @ under also.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2008 - 3:40 PM ET #15

    I really liked the Texans at home in a statement game. I think Sage is a good QB. But the loss of Zac Diles is big. Still tentatively leaning towards HOU.
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    I really liked the Texans at home in a statement game. I think Sage is a good QB. But the loss of Zac Diles is big. Still tentatively leaning towards HOU.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2008 - 7:49 PM ET #16

    balt D will eat em up alive
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    balt D will eat em up alive
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2008 - 5:50 AM ET #17

    Thinking OVER 42 on this one. HOU is 7-1 O/U and BALT is 5-3 O/U, despite the public perception that they are all defense. I look for this one to be a bit of a shootout with both teams scoring in the 20's.
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    Thinking OVER 42 on this one. HOU is 7-1 O/U and BALT is 5-3 O/U, despite the public perception that they are all defense. I look for this one to be a bit of a shootout with both teams scoring in the 20's.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2008 - 1:20 PM ET #18

    Sage is gonna wet himself looking across the line at Lewis and Co.  Ravens "D" will be the "D"ifference in this game.
     
     
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    Sage is gonna wet himself looking across the line at Lewis and Co.  Ravens "D" will be the "D"ifference in this game.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2008 - 1:38 PM ET #19

    rice, mclain   banged up 
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    rice, mclain   banged up 
     
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by wangichu]

    sage rosenfels ... nothing prolific, but it seems like every time he replaces shaub he does at LEAST as good as him if not outperforms him, so i'm really not worried enough about that. 

    I am strictly playing the spread here, because i almost don't even get this... i was a little weird playing miami when they beat the bulls, but i think maybe because i don't get these teams quite as much in the way that the ravens will occassionally just tank games and the texans randomly just show up.  but as far as playing the spread, it just makes no sense that vegas would drop a spread with the texans as two point favorites knowing that everyone and their dog will go to town on baltimore as dogs against the texans... well they did and now the spread caved and the favorite flipped, in these cases it normally pays off to play the team that STARTED as the favorite.

    well, for whatever reason, vegas has me convinced that if the ravens were going to win this game, they would have been at least 3 point favorites, and since they're not and the public has jumped on their backs, i will roll with the texans here... might be tight, but vegas has me pretty sure they win this one...

    HOU +1

    [/Quote THIS GAME IS A PICK NOW.....AND LETS HOPE THEY BOTH SCORE LIKE I EXPECT ....THANKS FOR THE HELP MAN! I DONT SEE THIS BEING TOO DEFENSIVE...]
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by wangichu]

    sage rosenfels ... nothing prolific, but it seems like every time he replaces shaub he does at LEAST as good as him if not outperforms him, so i'm really not worried enough about that. 

    I am strictly playing the spread here, because i almost don't even get this... i was a little weird playing miami when they beat the bulls, but i think maybe because i don't get these teams quite as much in the way that the ravens will occassionally just tank games and the texans randomly just show up.  but as far as playing the spread, it just makes no sense that vegas would drop a spread with the texans as two point favorites knowing that everyone and their dog will go to town on baltimore as dogs against the texans... well they did and now the spread caved and the favorite flipped, in these cases it normally pays off to play the team that STARTED as the favorite.

    well, for whatever reason, vegas has me convinced that if the ravens were going to win this game, they would have been at least 3 point favorites, and since they're not and the public has jumped on their backs, i will roll with the texans here... might be tight, but vegas has me pretty sure they win this one...

    HOU +1

    [/Quote THIS GAME IS A PICK NOW.....AND LETS HOPE THEY BOTH SCORE LIKE I EXPECT ....THANKS FOR THE HELP MAN! I DONT SEE THIS BEING TOO DEFENSIVE...]
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2008 - 2:27 PM ET #21

    EXACTLY!! THE TEXANS PLAYED IN MINNESOTA LAST WEEK AND HAVE BEEN RINGING IT UP AT HOME IN THE POINT TOTALS....AND BALTIMORE IS DEF. GOING TO BE PUTTING UP POINTS....THIS WAS MY BEST BET OF THE WEEK...
    Quote Originally Posted by J-NICE:

    Thinking OVER 42 on this one. HOU is 7-1 O/U and BALT is 5-3 O/U, despite the public perception that they are all defense. I look for this one to be a bit of a shootout with both teams scoring in the 20's.
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    EXACTLY!! THE TEXANS PLAYED IN MINNESOTA LAST WEEK AND HAVE BEEN RINGING IT UP AT HOME IN THE POINT TOTALS....AND BALTIMORE IS DEF. GOING TO BE PUTTING UP POINTS....THIS WAS MY BEST BET OF THE WEEK...
    Quote Originally Posted by J-NICE:

    Thinking OVER 42 on this one. HOU is 7-1 O/U and BALT is 5-3 O/U, despite the public perception that they are all defense. I look for this one to be a bit of a shootout with both teams scoring in the 20's.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2008 - 4:26 PM ET #22

    Sage "Blow The Lead" Rosenfels looks good on paper, because he hasn't faced a tough defensive - lead team like the Ravens yet. Who's he faced and beat this year? Cincinnati & Detroit, both at home??? Big deal..... You could have put me in at QB & got the same results!! Without Schaub, it's gonna be a bloodbath - easy play, take the Ravens.....
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    Sage "Blow The Lead" Rosenfels looks good on paper, because he hasn't faced a tough defensive - lead team like the Ravens yet. Who's he faced and beat this year? Cincinnati & Detroit, both at home??? Big deal..... You could have put me in at QB & got the same results!! Without Schaub, it's gonna be a bloodbath - easy play, take the Ravens.....
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrHuckleberry:

    Die Hard Texans fan- never post, but follow all of the threads here.  Houston came out favored because they are a great home team with good offense - the loss to Indy seemed like a fluke (with Sage turning it over twice in 2 minutes).  Since all the early money went on Baltimore (which is the play) Vegas moved the line rapidly because they don't want to back Houston here.  Rosenfels is a great quarterback who can throw better that Schaub and is more poised.  However, he makes bad decisions that result in fumbles.  Houston's D can't stop the run and with Zac Diles out it gets worse.  The offense won't be able to run so they will go to the air and end up turning it over.  If Rosenfels gets hurt against a great Baltimore D - Houston has Craig Nall backing him up - not something I want to see.  I don't bet against my team so I am staying clear of this game.
    Baltimore -1
    I know how you feel about not touching action on your team....BUT the over and under is not selling out!! right?? I like the over on this bigtime...I actually have a bet with my neighbor I have to go streaking at 4 am around the complex if I lose the over!! hahah...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrHuckleberry:

    Die Hard Texans fan- never post, but follow all of the threads here.  Houston came out favored because they are a great home team with good offense - the loss to Indy seemed like a fluke (with Sage turning it over twice in 2 minutes).  Since all the early money went on Baltimore (which is the play) Vegas moved the line rapidly because they don't want to back Houston here.  Rosenfels is a great quarterback who can throw better that Schaub and is more poised.  However, he makes bad decisions that result in fumbles.  Houston's D can't stop the run and with Zac Diles out it gets worse.  The offense won't be able to run so they will go to the air and end up turning it over.  If Rosenfels gets hurt against a great Baltimore D - Houston has Craig Nall backing him up - not something I want to see.  I don't bet against my team so I am staying clear of this game.
    Baltimore -1
    I know how you feel about not touching action on your team....BUT the over and under is not selling out!! right?? I like the over on this bigtime...I actually have a bet with my neighbor I have to go streaking at 4 am around the complex if I lose the over!! hahah...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2008 - 9:41 PM ET #24

    The line reflects the action on the Ravens...it is big with everyone it seems...
     
    The books are obviously worried too as it should keep moving toward BAL.
     
    This looks like a big stay away game to me
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    The line reflects the action on the Ravens...it is big with everyone it seems...
     
    The books are obviously worried too as it should keep moving toward BAL.
     
    This looks like a big stay away game to me
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2008 - 9:45 PM ET #25

    bookmakers open the line at Houston -2, they know, that Houston can win this game by 1, 2 or 3 points...
     
    Houston +1
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    bookmakers open the line at Houston -2, they know, that Houston can win this game by 1, 2 or 3 points...
     
    Houston +1
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