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    Baltimore at Cleveland (09/21/2014)

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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2014 - 1:22 AM ET #1

    Away:  Baltimore [1-1 ATS]
    Home:  Cleveland [2-0 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: FirstEnergy Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    Baltimore:
    Passing: Joe Flacco (511)
    Rushing: Justin Forsett (126)
    Receiving: Steve Smith (189)

    Cleveland:
    Passing: Brian Hoyer (434)
    Rushing: Terrance West (168)
    Receiving: Andrew Hawkins (157)

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    Away:  Baltimore [1-1 ATS]
    Home:  Cleveland [2-0 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: FirstEnergy Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Baltimore:
    Passing: Joe Flacco (511)
    Rushing: Justin Forsett (126)
    Receiving: Steve Smith (189)

    Cleveland:
    Passing: Brian Hoyer (434)
    Rushing: Terrance West (168)
    Receiving: Andrew Hawkins (157)

    More:
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2014 - 1:00 PM ET #2

    Over 41.5. 
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    Over 41.5. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2014 - 4:45 PM ET #3

    Okay, this one is pretty simple. Last year @ Cleveland the Browns beat the Raven's 24-18 right? Well, like this year, the Raven's were the favorite (-1 ). Clearly they didn't cover right. So tell me why this year they are favored (-2 ) DOUBLE last year! It's because those M.I.T. Dork's think guys like me FOLLOW patterns rather than FADE them! This line is what's called a "Match-Line." And you ALWAYS FADE.

    BUT WAIT A MINUTE!!! That only applies when you're previous game wasn't a "Match-Line!" Take a L@@K at the match-up against Pittsburgh last week. The EXACT same set-up! And look how the "Dork's" are selling it this week. Baltimore has the public currently @ 80%!!!

    CLEVELAND (+1.5 ) Or (+2 ) which ever you prefer. 
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    Okay, this one is pretty simple. Last year @ Cleveland the Browns beat the Raven's 24-18 right? Well, like this year, the Raven's were the favorite (-1 ). Clearly they didn't cover right. So tell me why this year they are favored (-2 ) DOUBLE last year! It's because those M.I.T. Dork's think guys like me FOLLOW patterns rather than FADE them! This line is what's called a "Match-Line." And you ALWAYS FADE.

    BUT WAIT A MINUTE!!! That only applies when you're previous game wasn't a "Match-Line!" Take a L@@K at the match-up against Pittsburgh last week. The EXACT same set-up! And look how the "Dork's" are selling it this week. Baltimore has the public currently @ 80%!!!

    CLEVELAND (+1.5 ) Or (+2 ) which ever you prefer. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2014 - 1:14 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by MATRIX_WIZARD:

    Okay, this one is pretty simple. Last year @ Cleveland the Browns beat the Raven's 24-18 right? Well, like this year, the Raven's were the favorite (-1 ). Clearly they didn't cover right. So tell me why this year they are favored (-2 ) DOUBLE last year! It's because those M.I.T. Dork's think guys like me FOLLOW patterns rather than FADE them! This line is what's called a "Match-Line." And you ALWAYS FADE.

    BUT WAIT A MINUTE!!! That only applies when you're previous game wasn't a "Match-Line!" Take a L@@K at the match-up against Pittsburgh last week. The EXACT same set-up! And look how the "Dork's" are selling it this week. Baltimore has the public currently @ 80%!!!

    CLEVELAND (+1.5 ) Or (+2 ) which ever you prefer. 
    agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by MATRIX_WIZARD:

    Okay, this one is pretty simple. Last year @ Cleveland the Browns beat the Raven's 24-18 right? Well, like this year, the Raven's were the favorite (-1 ). Clearly they didn't cover right. So tell me why this year they are favored (-2 ) DOUBLE last year! It's because those M.I.T. Dork's think guys like me FOLLOW patterns rather than FADE them! This line is what's called a "Match-Line." And you ALWAYS FADE.

    BUT WAIT A MINUTE!!! That only applies when you're previous game wasn't a "Match-Line!" Take a L@@K at the match-up against Pittsburgh last week. The EXACT same set-up! And look how the "Dork's" are selling it this week. Baltimore has the public currently @ 80%!!!

    CLEVELAND (+1.5 ) Or (+2 ) which ever you prefer. 
    agree

     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2014 - 10:39 PM ET #5

    matrix... you come up with the biggest load of crap i've ever seen on this site... and there are some pretty ridiculous posts.
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    matrix... you come up with the biggest load of crap i've ever seen on this site... and there are some pretty ridiculous posts.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2014 - 2:17 AM ET #6

    Browns-Steelers was what an AFC North Fan would consider a "shoot out"..that being said, Baltimore shut down Pittsburgh last week. I expect the same from the Ravens in this extended week since they last played on the 11th.
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    Browns-Steelers was what an AFC North Fan would consider a "shoot out"..that being said, Baltimore shut down Pittsburgh last week. I expect the same from the Ravens in this extended week since they last played on the 11th.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2014 - 2:18 AM ET #7

    Cleveland +2
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    Cleveland +2
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2014 - 12:50 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by MATRIX_WIZARD:

    Okay, this one is pretty simple. Last year @ Cleveland the Browns beat the Raven's 24-18 right? Well, like this year, the Raven's were the favorite (-1 ). Clearly they didn't cover right. So tell me why this year they are favored (-2 ) DOUBLE last year! It's because those M.I.T. Dork's think guys like me FOLLOW patterns rather than FADE them! This line is what's called a "Match-Line." And you ALWAYS FADE.

    BUT WAIT A MINUTE!!! That only applies when you're previous game wasn't a "Match-Line!" Take a L@@K at the match-up against Pittsburgh last week. The EXACT same set-up! And look how the "Dork's" are selling it this week. Baltimore has the public currently @ 80%!!!

    CLEVELAND (+1.5 ) Or (+2 ) which ever you prefer. 

    ORRRRRR....You're overthinking it...RAVENS ARE STACKED!!!...took a tough L to a very good Bengals team to open up then pounded the Steelers...AND THEY DOMINATE CLEVELAND....9-1 out of last 10 meetings...GIMME DA BLACK BIRDS ALL DAY LONGGGGGG!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MATRIX_WIZARD:

    Okay, this one is pretty simple. Last year @ Cleveland the Browns beat the Raven's 24-18 right? Well, like this year, the Raven's were the favorite (-1 ). Clearly they didn't cover right. So tell me why this year they are favored (-2 ) DOUBLE last year! It's because those M.I.T. Dork's think guys like me FOLLOW patterns rather than FADE them! This line is what's called a "Match-Line." And you ALWAYS FADE.

    BUT WAIT A MINUTE!!! That only applies when you're previous game wasn't a "Match-Line!" Take a L@@K at the match-up against Pittsburgh last week. The EXACT same set-up! And look how the "Dork's" are selling it this week. Baltimore has the public currently @ 80%!!!

    CLEVELAND (+1.5 ) Or (+2 ) which ever you prefer. 

    ORRRRRR....You're overthinking it...RAVENS ARE STACKED!!!...took a tough L to a very good Bengals team to open up then pounded the Steelers...AND THEY DOMINATE CLEVELAND....9-1 out of last 10 meetings...GIMME DA BLACK BIRDS ALL DAY LONGGGGGG!!!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2014 - 1:24 AM ET #9

    Loving Baltimore here.  Better team.  Browns high comes down
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    Loving Baltimore here.  Better team.  Browns high comes down
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2014 - 1:54 PM ET #10

    Cleveland..Dangerous home dog as shown last week against Saints.
    Mike Pettine...former Ravens defensive asst coach beat Ravens last year with the Bills
    Ravens just played the Steelers.... and now they have to go on the road in the dawg pound.. 

    history has shown this is a let down spot for them when they play road game after playing Steelers @ home. Not sure why it is, are they just feeling cocky and underestimate their opponent?

    This should be letdown spot for both teams. Does Brownies still have enough gas in tank for a 2nd straight upset?? I'll be the fool again and take the Ravens. One thing the Ravens can do those other teams can't is stop the run and the Raven dominance continues in this series

    Ravens barely scrape away with the vic tory 19-16 

    Balti & under
    Sip on that plus money honey!
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    Cleveland..Dangerous home dog as shown last week against Saints.
    Mike Pettine...former Ravens defensive asst coach beat Ravens last year with the Bills
    Ravens just played the Steelers.... and now they have to go on the road in the dawg pound.. 

    history has shown this is a let down spot for them when they play road game after playing Steelers @ home. Not sure why it is, are they just feeling cocky and underestimate their opponent?

    This should be letdown spot for both teams. Does Brownies still have enough gas in tank for a 2nd straight upset?? I'll be the fool again and take the Ravens. One thing the Ravens can do those other teams can't is stop the run and the Raven dominance continues in this series

    Ravens barely scrape away with the vic tory 19-16 

    Balti & under
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MATRIX_WIZARD:

    Okay, this one is pretty simple. Last year @ Cleveland the Browns beat the Raven's 24-18 right? Well, like this year, the Raven's were the favorite (-1 ). Clearly they didn't cover right. So tell me why this year they are favored (-2 ) DOUBLE last year! It's because those M.I.T. Dork's think guys like me FOLLOW patterns rather than FADE them! This line is what's called a "Match-Line." And you ALWAYS FADE.

    BUT WAIT A MINUTE!!! That only applies when you're previous game wasn't a "Match-Line!" Take a L@@K at the match-up against Pittsburgh last week. The EXACT same set-up! And look how the "Dork's" are selling it this week. Baltimore has the public currently @ 80%!!!

    CLEVELAND (+1.5 ) Or (+2 ) which ever you prefer. 

    Here's what your "Matrix" should be telling you. Division rivalries where the line is 2.5 and under almost always end up with a last second TD, or a time expiring FG, or O.T...... Your overthinking it. Why nailbite these games when you don't have to? Tease the game either way or both ways if you want. Then sit back and collect your money.....

    Maybe Morpheus says that I am "The One"?

    "I KNOW KUNG-FU!!!!!!!!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by MATRIX_WIZARD:

    Okay, this one is pretty simple. Last year @ Cleveland the Browns beat the Raven's 24-18 right? Well, like this year, the Raven's were the favorite (-1 ). Clearly they didn't cover right. So tell me why this year they are favored (-2 ) DOUBLE last year! It's because those M.I.T. Dork's think guys like me FOLLOW patterns rather than FADE them! This line is what's called a "Match-Line." And you ALWAYS FADE.

    BUT WAIT A MINUTE!!! That only applies when you're previous game wasn't a "Match-Line!" Take a L@@K at the match-up against Pittsburgh last week. The EXACT same set-up! And look how the "Dork's" are selling it this week. Baltimore has the public currently @ 80%!!!

    CLEVELAND (+1.5 ) Or (+2 ) which ever you prefer. 

    Here's what your "Matrix" should be telling you. Division rivalries where the line is 2.5 and under almost always end up with a last second TD, or a time expiring FG, or O.T...... Your overthinking it. Why nailbite these games when you don't have to? Tease the game either way or both ways if you want. Then sit back and collect your money.....

    Maybe Morpheus says that I am "The One"?

    "I KNOW KUNG-FU!!!!!!!!"

     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2014 - 2:25 PM ET #12

    I would take Balti but I hate Balti on the road.   No play, if they were at home I would go to -9.5    
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    I would take Balti but I hate Balti on the road.   No play, if they were at home I would go to -9.5    
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2014 - 10:26 AM ET #13

    Baltimore on road is hot/cold under Harborgh. Browns, Hoyer, has been impressive. But like Ravens here, simply a better team

    ravens late field goal

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    Baltimore on road is hot/cold under Harborgh. Browns, Hoyer, has been impressive. But like Ravens here, simply a better team

    ravens late field goal

     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2014 - 11:45 AM ET #14

    Look for The Browns to win their 2nd home game of the season
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    Look for The Browns to win their 2nd home game of the season
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