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    Atlanta at St. Louis (11/21/2010)

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    houseman
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 5:57 PM ET #26

    ram on
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    ram on
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 7:18 PM ET #27

    falcons coming off 3 home games.....

    Teams that come off 3 home games than travel on road as favorites are 17-32 ATS

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    falcons coming off 3 home games.....

    Teams that come off 3 home games than travel on road as favorites are 17-32 ATS

     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 9:38 PM ET #28

    For some reason vegas know something about this game we dont?? this line should have opened at the lowest of  atlanta-6.. so saying, that this game jumps out at everybody as what a gambler calls a " trap" bet.. im not saying that the rams are a better team than atlanta by no means its just something up.. all the stats point to the falcons and the public money is near 80% yet the line still holds strong at 3... 

    RAMS +3

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    For some reason vegas know something about this game we dont?? this line should have opened at the lowest of  atlanta-6.. so saying, that this game jumps out at everybody as what a gambler calls a " trap" bet.. im not saying that the rams are a better team than atlanta by no means its just something up.. all the stats point to the falcons and the public money is near 80% yet the line still holds strong at 3... 

    RAMS +3

     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 11:01 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by grahamillion:


    Fair enough. But the biggest stat has to do with public opinion. It was at 85% yesterday for Atlanta and the line stood still. Today's interesting as that's dropped to 78% Atlanta, but still.

     This 3 points is fishy. Vegas doesn't release these lines and keep them this way to lose money. I just think this is like the NE/CLE game to be honest..

    80 percent of public just won on Arkansas, myself included. 

     

    The 20%  "look,  pulblic on Ark, the bet is MSU"

    Good betting strategy

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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamillion:


    Fair enough. But the biggest stat has to do with public opinion. It was at 85% yesterday for Atlanta and the line stood still. Today's interesting as that's dropped to 78% Atlanta, but still.

     This 3 points is fishy. Vegas doesn't release these lines and keep them this way to lose money. I just think this is like the NE/CLE game to be honest..

    80 percent of public just won on Arkansas, myself included. 

     

    The 20%  "look,  pulblic on Ark, the bet is MSU"

    Good betting strategy

     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 11:04 PM ET #30

    Falcons better team -3
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    Falcons better team -3
     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2010 - 5:05 AM ET #31

    Could go either way with this one really just bettin' with the heart here so I'll lighten the load just in case it doesn't get done it won't hurt double -- FALCONS & VER
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    Could go either way with this one really just bettin' with the heart here so I'll lighten the load just in case it doesn't get done it won't hurt double -- FALCONS & VER
     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2010 - 8:06 AM ET #32

    you look at trends , but the problem is those trends are from years past , Atlanta has Rarely played this good .They are playing great Football this year , and they have one of the best winning records in the NFL.

    All you gotta do is stop RB Steven Jackson ,which everyone seems to be doing this year , and you have a win. The got no defense , they barely got offense.

    FALCONS -3  (HUGE) no brainer , no problem , no worries.

    prediction Falcons by +10 or more in fact

     

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    you look at trends , but the problem is those trends are from years past , Atlanta has Rarely played this good .They are playing great Football this year , and they have one of the best winning records in the NFL.

    All you gotta do is stop RB Steven Jackson ,which everyone seems to be doing this year , and you have a win. The got no defense , they barely got offense.

    FALCONS -3  (HUGE) no brainer , no problem , no worries.

    prediction Falcons by +10 or more in fact

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2010 - 9:08 AM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by AceMackenzie:

    you look at trends , but the problem is those trends are from years past , Atlanta has Rarely played this good .They are playing great Football this year , and they have one of the best winning records in the NFL.

    All you gotta do is stop RB Steven Jackson ,which everyone seems to be doing this year , and you have a win. The got no defense , they barely got offense.

    FALCONS -3  (HUGE) no brainer , no problem , no worries.

    prediction Falcons by +10 or more in fact

     

     

     

    This is the kind of crap you find on Covers.  Rams have no defense?    I'm guessing you haven't seen a Rams game this year.  They have a solid D and NO OFFENSE.   Bradford doesn't ever try to stretch the field. 

    Under 43

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    Quote Originally Posted by AceMackenzie:

    you look at trends , but the problem is those trends are from years past , Atlanta has Rarely played this good .They are playing great Football this year , and they have one of the best winning records in the NFL.

    All you gotta do is stop RB Steven Jackson ,which everyone seems to be doing this year , and you have a win. The got no defense , they barely got offense.

    FALCONS -3  (HUGE) no brainer , no problem , no worries.

    prediction Falcons by +10 or more in fact

     

     

     

    This is the kind of crap you find on Covers.  Rams have no defense?    I'm guessing you haven't seen a Rams game this year.  They have a solid D and NO OFFENSE.   Bradford doesn't ever try to stretch the field. 

    Under 43

     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2010 - 9:14 AM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by AceMackenzie:

    you look at trends , but the problem is those trends are from years past , Atlanta has Rarely played this good .They are playing great Football this year , and they have one of the best winning records in the NFL.

    All you gotta do is stop RB Steven Jackson ,which everyone seems to be doing this year , and you have a win. The got no defense , they barely got offense.

    FALCONS -3  (HUGE) no brainer , no problem , no worries.

    prediction Falcons by +10 or more in fact

     

    Rams cover the 3 if not an outright win..............Trust me !!!!

    Atlanta is not nearly the same team on the road. This is setting up to be a bloodbath for the novice, weekend bettors who see ATL only minus three, .........wow gimme some of that. Vegas knows this.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by AceMackenzie:

    you look at trends , but the problem is those trends are from years past , Atlanta has Rarely played this good .They are playing great Football this year , and they have one of the best winning records in the NFL.

    All you gotta do is stop RB Steven Jackson ,which everyone seems to be doing this year , and you have a win. The got no defense , they barely got offense.

    FALCONS -3  (HUGE) no brainer , no problem , no worries.

    prediction Falcons by +10 or more in fact

     

    Rams cover the 3 if not an outright win..............Trust me !!!!

    Atlanta is not nearly the same team on the road. This is setting up to be a bloodbath for the novice, weekend bettors who see ATL only minus three, .........wow gimme some of that. Vegas knows this.

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2010 - 10:21 AM ET #35

    going to the game here in a few, the 3 points is awfully suspicious. with that said the Rams play at a different level at home,but not sure if thats enough to pull an upset against rex and team, that cat is in fire and the rams are still building.

    atlanta shlould cover, but would love to see a upset which is not out of the question. 

    think the safest play is the over and thats what im taking 5 units.

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    going to the game here in a few, the 3 points is awfully suspicious. with that said the Rams play at a different level at home,but not sure if thats enough to pull an upset against rex and team, that cat is in fire and the rams are still building.

    atlanta shlould cover, but would love to see a upset which is not out of the question. 

    think the safest play is the over and thats what im taking 5 units.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2010 - 10:42 AM ET #36

    FALCONS
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    FALCONS
     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2010 - 10:57 AM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by livie:

    80 percent of public just won on Arkansas, myself included. 

     

    The 20%  "look,  pulblic on Ark, the bet is MSU"

    Good betting strategy



    Your logic is flawed simply because you're trying to compare college and pro football betting in terms of going with or against the public.  The difference found between Arkansas and MSU are incomparable to those between Atlanta and St. Louis.  The college teams aren't as close in overall quality when compared to the differences between Atlanta and St. Louis.

    I'm not saying that line movement isn't a key factor in capping, but you can't compare pro and college, especially at this time of the year.

    I'm not taking either side in this ATL/STL game.  Matt Ryan is almost unbeatable at home, but I believe his road record isn't spectacular.  I may lean to the over simply b/c both offenses can score, and score quickly.  GLTA!
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    Quote Originally Posted by livie:

    80 percent of public just won on Arkansas, myself included. 

     

    The 20%  "look,  pulblic on Ark, the bet is MSU"

    Good betting strategy



    Your logic is flawed simply because you're trying to compare college and pro football betting in terms of going with or against the public.  The difference found between Arkansas and MSU are incomparable to those between Atlanta and St. Louis.  The college teams aren't as close in overall quality when compared to the differences between Atlanta and St. Louis.

    I'm not saying that line movement isn't a key factor in capping, but you can't compare pro and college, especially at this time of the year.

    I'm not taking either side in this ATL/STL game.  Matt Ryan is almost unbeatable at home, but I believe his road record isn't spectacular.  I may lean to the over simply b/c both offenses can score, and score quickly.  GLTA!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2010 - 12:01 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaFalcons:

    I'm not here to gloat because there is still a lot of work to be done.

    When the Falcons win the NFC and sustain homefield throughout the playoffs, they will be in the superbowl, and it's my personal guarantee. A team that is pinnacle in the Dome will not yield to any of these overrated NFC teams at home. Other NFC teams have synthetic defenses that can't compete against true undervalued talent like your 2010 MVP, Roddy White. Take time and learn how to commend depreciated talent so when February rolls around, you analysts will not look like babbling morons. Though he will not be awarded it, the true MVP of the 2010 NFL season so far is Roddy White. Atlanta fans, we do not expect to get recognition. We feed of the fact that no matter what, we are the underdog. And we co-exist as one to prove the doubters and sadly the haters wrong. The city of Atlanta is a depreciated sports town. I can't argue against that because of only one professional championship. We strive for a breakthrough that will one day put Atlanta sports over the top and look towards a future in hopes that it includes a city where hockey isn't look at as a derision to other fanbases. Matt Ryan and co. will change the tides. It's our time now.

    To gamblers, the money should be on the Falcons.

    dude- get ur head out of the clouds, u JACKASS.  which victories this year have u so convinced?  was it the close victory over the pathetic 49ers in ATL? 

    what will happen when they face stellar competition in the playoffs?  like what if they run into the eagles?  i'll tell u what will happen- they will get crushed like they always do.  i sure hope the rams win today to shut ur dumb ass up for awhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaFalcons:

    I'm not here to gloat because there is still a lot of work to be done.

    When the Falcons win the NFC and sustain homefield throughout the playoffs, they will be in the superbowl, and it's my personal guarantee. A team that is pinnacle in the Dome will not yield to any of these overrated NFC teams at home. Other NFC teams have synthetic defenses that can't compete against true undervalued talent like your 2010 MVP, Roddy White. Take time and learn how to commend depreciated talent so when February rolls around, you analysts will not look like babbling morons. Though he will not be awarded it, the true MVP of the 2010 NFL season so far is Roddy White. Atlanta fans, we do not expect to get recognition. We feed of the fact that no matter what, we are the underdog. And we co-exist as one to prove the doubters and sadly the haters wrong. The city of Atlanta is a depreciated sports town. I can't argue against that because of only one professional championship. We strive for a breakthrough that will one day put Atlanta sports over the top and look towards a future in hopes that it includes a city where hockey isn't look at as a derision to other fanbases. Matt Ryan and co. will change the tides. It's our time now.

    To gamblers, the money should be on the Falcons.

    dude- get ur head out of the clouds, u JACKASS.  which victories this year have u so convinced?  was it the close victory over the pathetic 49ers in ATL? 

    what will happen when they face stellar competition in the playoffs?  like what if they run into the eagles?  i'll tell u what will happen- they will get crushed like they always do.  i sure hope the rams win today to shut ur dumb ass up for awhile.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2010 - 12:49 PM ET #39

    ST. LOUIS +3.5 
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    ST. LOUIS +3.5 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2010 - 2:24 PM ET #40

    Rams +3.5.... Dont be surprised if the falcons are looking ahead to their next two games (green bay and tampa bay). The line is 3.5 for a reason, can you say trap bet?    Rams win this game at home.

    STL 24  ATL 21

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    Rams +3.5.... Dont be surprised if the falcons are looking ahead to their next two games (green bay and tampa bay). The line is 3.5 for a reason, can you say trap bet?    Rams win this game at home.

    STL 24  ATL 21

     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2010 - 2:41 PM ET #41

    We're talking about the rams here...however I don't like the non movement of the line with the public hammering ATL.  If I had the stones I would take ATL -3 allllll dayyy
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    We're talking about the rams here...however I don't like the non movement of the line with the public hammering ATL.  If I had the stones I would take ATL -3 allllll dayyy
     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2010 - 2:46 PM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by aisaac:



    Your logic is flawed simply because you're trying to compare college and pro football betting in terms of going with or against the public.  The difference found between Arkansas and MSU are incomparable to those between Atlanta and St. Louis.  The college teams aren't as close in overall quality when compared to the differences between Atlanta and St. Louis.

    I'm not saying that line movement isn't a key factor in capping, but you can't compare pro and college, especially at this time of the year.

    I'm not taking either side in this ATL/STL game.  Matt Ryan is almost unbeatable at home, but I believe his road record isn't spectacular.  I may lean to the over simply b/c both offenses can score, and score quickly.  GLTA!

    He's not comparing NFL with NCAAF, he's comparing where the public money is, and that since most of the money is on one team and Vegas hasn't moved the line the other side must be the right side to be on. Pro or college it don't matter
    Are you saying that handicappers that bet on the Pros are better at handicapping?
    I think most Pro games spreads are not big enough due to the respect they get for simply being pros, but people over think it
    There are blowouts all the time, just like in college
    Vegas does not know what is going to happen
    The Square betting Public wins plenty, sometimes even when the "smart" money is on the other side
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    Quote Originally Posted by aisaac:



    Your logic is flawed simply because you're trying to compare college and pro football betting in terms of going with or against the public.  The difference found between Arkansas and MSU are incomparable to those between Atlanta and St. Louis.  The college teams aren't as close in overall quality when compared to the differences between Atlanta and St. Louis.

    I'm not saying that line movement isn't a key factor in capping, but you can't compare pro and college, especially at this time of the year.

    I'm not taking either side in this ATL/STL game.  Matt Ryan is almost unbeatable at home, but I believe his road record isn't spectacular.  I may lean to the over simply b/c both offenses can score, and score quickly.  GLTA!

    He's not comparing NFL with NCAAF, he's comparing where the public money is, and that since most of the money is on one team and Vegas hasn't moved the line the other side must be the right side to be on. Pro or college it don't matter
    Are you saying that handicappers that bet on the Pros are better at handicapping?
    I think most Pro games spreads are not big enough due to the respect they get for simply being pros, but people over think it
    There are blowouts all the time, just like in college
    Vegas does not know what is going to happen
    The Square betting Public wins plenty, sometimes even when the "smart" money is on the other side
     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2010 - 3:42 PM ET #43

    FALCONS -3
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    FALCONS -3
     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2010 - 3:52 PM ET #44

    falcons will win this outright... maybe the linesmaker knows it will be a close game.. not doubting them, but taking the dirty birds from atl straight up... good teams usually pull away from the bad teams at this point in the season to push for the division ownership and so on..
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    falcons will win this outright... maybe the linesmaker knows it will be a close game.. not doubting them, but taking the dirty birds from atl straight up... good teams usually pull away from the bad teams at this point in the season to push for the division ownership and so on..
     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2010 - 7:12 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by Omerta:

     

     

    This is the kind of crap you find on Covers.  Rams have no defense?    I'm guessing you haven't seen a Rams game this year.  They have a solid D and NO OFFENSE.   Bradford doesn't ever try to stretch the field. 

    Under 43

    Yeah let me say it AGAIN

    Rams got no offense - hense 17

    Rams got no defense - they allowed Thrity Freakin Four

    a child of 8 could call this game , since the Falcons are just a much better team

    they will win by 10+

    FINAL SCORE 34 to 17

    (ps i may be new to Covers , but im not new to betting games

    me and the Lil Lady will be eating at the  Steak House tonight ,NY stip for me ,Filet for her )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omerta:

     

     

    This is the kind of crap you find on Covers.  Rams have no defense?    I'm guessing you haven't seen a Rams game this year.  They have a solid D and NO OFFENSE.   Bradford doesn't ever try to stretch the field. 

    Under 43

    Yeah let me say it AGAIN

    Rams got no offense - hense 17

    Rams got no defense - they allowed Thrity Freakin Four

    a child of 8 could call this game , since the Falcons are just a much better team

    they will win by 10+

    FINAL SCORE 34 to 17

    (ps i may be new to Covers , but im not new to betting games

    me and the Lil Lady will be eating at the  Steak House tonight ,NY stip for me ,Filet for her )

     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2010 - 11:48 PM ET #46

    Well, Mr. Joe (square pants) Public got it right, I'll be darned
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    Well, Mr. Joe (square pants) Public got it right, I'll be darned
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2010 - 12:11 PM ET #47

    really cant believe the rams couldnt score on the falcons 2 yard line
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    really cant believe the rams couldnt score on the falcons 2 yard line
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