Do the Falcons really need this game? I think the sharps think "NO", and I think I agree.....
While I completely see where this is coming from, (I agree, they don't NEED this game) but I see them really WANTING this game. I think the playoff performance last year still haunts them, I think they fire away until they get bounced. I don't know how DET keeps up with 1 receiving threat (in comparison) and an average ground game
I'm hoping for about 612 points in this game :) Go Dirty Birds GL all
Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:
Do the Falcons really need this game? I think the sharps think "NO", and I think I agree.....
While I completely see where this is coming from, (I agree, they don't NEED this game) but I see them really WANTING this game. I think the playoff performance last year still haunts them, I think they fire away until they get bounced. I don't know how DET keeps up with 1 receiving threat (in comparison) and an average ground game
I'm hoping for about 612 points in this game :) Go Dirty Birds GL all
My inner wise guy first liked the Lions in this spot. They have played everyone tough at home, and have lost their last 3 home games (33-35 to Indy, 31-34 to Houston, and 20-24 to Green Bay). But after further review, I've decided to fade myself. There are far too many injuries for me to support a play on the Lions. Plus, they are playing for practically nothing. They are obviously not in playoff contention and beating Atlanta wouldn't really be playing "spoiler" because the Falcons have already clinched the division and have a pretty tight grip on home field advantage. I'd much rather back the Lions when they host their division rival Bears next week, where I know there is a mutual hatred for each other, and there is a great chance they will be able to knock the Bears out of the playoffs with a win.
Detroit's wide receiving corps is absolutely decimated with injuries (no Broyles and obviously Titus Young has effectively been kicked off the team), Brandon Petigrew is also questionable and wasn't able to suit up last week in the embarrassing loss to Arizona. And what has quietly gone under the radar is that Nick Fairly, their other stud defensive tackle, has been placed on the IR due to a shoulder injury suffered in the Arizona game. Delmas, one of the leaders in their secondary, is also listed as questionable. The Lions are simply too banged up and won't be motivationally challenged enough to defend their home turf this Saturday night. Not to mention, their home field advantage isn't really that much of an edge given Atlanta is a dome team. If this were outdoors on a grass surface like Carolina from 2 weeks ago, thats a different story.
I am sure its a public bet, but I know Atlanta is the better team...I know they are the healthier team. And I know they are the team with the better momentum (coming off a statement game against the Giants). The Lions are coming off an embarrassing loss to the Cardinals. And their offensive gameplan will be no mystery this Saturday...Lets heave the ball up to Megatron, and hope he breaks Jerry Rice's single season receiving yards record.
I think Atlanta locks up home field advantage this Saturday Night.
with ya sammy
Quote Originally Posted by Sammy_Ace:
My inner wise guy first liked the Lions in this spot. They have played everyone tough at home, and have lost their last 3 home games (33-35 to Indy, 31-34 to Houston, and 20-24 to Green Bay). But after further review, I've decided to fade myself. There are far too many injuries for me to support a play on the Lions. Plus, they are playing for practically nothing. They are obviously not in playoff contention and beating Atlanta wouldn't really be playing "spoiler" because the Falcons have already clinched the division and have a pretty tight grip on home field advantage. I'd much rather back the Lions when they host their division rival Bears next week, where I know there is a mutual hatred for each other, and there is a great chance they will be able to knock the Bears out of the playoffs with a win.
Detroit's wide receiving corps is absolutely decimated with injuries (no Broyles and obviously Titus Young has effectively been kicked off the team), Brandon Petigrew is also questionable and wasn't able to suit up last week in the embarrassing loss to Arizona. And what has quietly gone under the radar is that Nick Fairly, their other stud defensive tackle, has been placed on the IR due to a shoulder injury suffered in the Arizona game. Delmas, one of the leaders in their secondary, is also listed as questionable. The Lions are simply too banged up and won't be motivationally challenged enough to defend their home turf this Saturday night. Not to mention, their home field advantage isn't really that much of an edge given Atlanta is a dome team. If this were outdoors on a grass surface like Carolina from 2 weeks ago, thats a different story.
I am sure its a public bet, but I know Atlanta is the better team...I know they are the healthier team. And I know they are the team with the better momentum (coming off a statement game against the Giants). The Lions are coming off an embarrassing loss to the Cardinals. And their offensive gameplan will be no mystery this Saturday...Lets heave the ball up to Megatron, and hope he breaks Jerry Rice's single season receiving yards record.
I think Atlanta locks up home field advantage this Saturday Night.
the need this game. If they win they secure HFA through out play offs
Quote: Originally Posted byHaywire - While I completely see where this is coming from, (I agree, they don't NEED this game) but I see them really WANTING this game. I think the playoff performance last year still haunts them, I think they fire away until they get bounced. I don't know how DET keeps up with 1 receiving threat (in comparison) and an average ground game
I'm hoping for about 612 points in this game :) Go Dirty Birds GL all
Hmmm, 70% still on "The Birds Of Dirty", but the line has gone down to 3.5????
Looking even more like a big fat stinky piece of cheese on that spring loaded metal "contraption" to me...........Just sayin'..........
Quote Originally Posted by leoph97:
the need this game. If they win they secure HFA through out play offs
Quote: Originally Posted byHaywire - While I completely see where this is coming from, (I agree, they don't NEED this game) but I see them really WANTING this game. I think the playoff performance last year still haunts them, I think they fire away until they get bounced. I don't know how DET keeps up with 1 receiving threat (in comparison) and an average ground game
I'm hoping for about 612 points in this game :) Go Dirty Birds GL all
Hmmm, 70% still on "The Birds Of Dirty", but the line has gone down to 3.5????
Looking even more like a big fat stinky piece of cheese on that spring loaded metal "contraption" to me...........Just sayin'..........
It is kind of odd, but Det has better rushing and better def. vs the rush than Atlanta. Also Detroit is better at passing and has a better pass Defense than Atlanta. Detroit has a better strength of schedule than atlanta. The numbers between the 2 are quite similar even down to the 3rd down conversion percentage except for 3 categories. Pts scored, which ATL has a small advantage, pts given up where ATL has a big advantage and the most important TURNOVER MARGIN which shows a net DIFF of +10. IMO, if Detroit can play with one turnover or less, they have a good shot to beat ATL at home, given the circumstances of being embarassed last week and having a real good opponent at home. Unfortunately, it is hard to swallow Detroit and Stafford not giving up turnovers. It seems to me that Stafford is still not 100% healthy. You can see in his throws that there is something off, but given his lack of targets difficult for him. Just observations though
It is kind of odd, but Det has better rushing and better def. vs the rush than Atlanta. Also Detroit is better at passing and has a better pass Defense than Atlanta. Detroit has a better strength of schedule than atlanta. The numbers between the 2 are quite similar even down to the 3rd down conversion percentage except for 3 categories. Pts scored, which ATL has a small advantage, pts given up where ATL has a big advantage and the most important TURNOVER MARGIN which shows a net DIFF of +10. IMO, if Detroit can play with one turnover or less, they have a good shot to beat ATL at home, given the circumstances of being embarassed last week and having a real good opponent at home. Unfortunately, it is hard to swallow Detroit and Stafford not giving up turnovers. It seems to me that Stafford is still not 100% healthy. You can see in his throws that there is something off, but given his lack of targets difficult for him. Just observations though
There's quite a few interesting points of view put out there on this game and being a pretty big Detroit fan, I'm a little surprised to see this much interest in this game. Normally, I won't bet on a team I route for but if I had to and there was a gun to my head...I'd take the points...and not just because I'm a Lions fan.
I think Sammy put out a few solid points out there and I agree...being patient and waiting until next week against the Bears is wise. The one thing about these 2 teams in my own opinion is that they could have similar records. This season Detroit has been excellent at beating themselves and discipline wise, they have been horrible. With just a couple breaks here and there and if Schwartz knew the rules and didn't throw the challenge flag, etc..they could have 9 wins themselves at this point...but they don't and they are where they are. No doubt the were embarrassed last week...I think they accounted for 28 of the 38 total points scored by Arz. The key in this game, like others have mentioned is whether Stafford, special teams, etc, can protect the ball and limit turnovers. If they do that, they should win outright...and even with being banged up a bit, they're are capable of doing so.
IMO...Vegas put the # right where they would get more $$$ on the favorite (ATL) because the public and even the experts are all on ATL's side and my gut's telling me that Vegas will clean up with this one. I'm taking a small piece on the over 50.5 but will just sit back and watch the game because there seems to be other games on Sundays ticket that look to have more value.
I wouldn't be surprised though if by game time the line comes down to 2.5...think some out there are seeing how high they can get that line up to and then go large with the pts.
GL....make $$$
There's quite a few interesting points of view put out there on this game and being a pretty big Detroit fan, I'm a little surprised to see this much interest in this game. Normally, I won't bet on a team I route for but if I had to and there was a gun to my head...I'd take the points...and not just because I'm a Lions fan.
I think Sammy put out a few solid points out there and I agree...being patient and waiting until next week against the Bears is wise. The one thing about these 2 teams in my own opinion is that they could have similar records. This season Detroit has been excellent at beating themselves and discipline wise, they have been horrible. With just a couple breaks here and there and if Schwartz knew the rules and didn't throw the challenge flag, etc..they could have 9 wins themselves at this point...but they don't and they are where they are. No doubt the were embarrassed last week...I think they accounted for 28 of the 38 total points scored by Arz. The key in this game, like others have mentioned is whether Stafford, special teams, etc, can protect the ball and limit turnovers. If they do that, they should win outright...and even with being banged up a bit, they're are capable of doing so.
IMO...Vegas put the # right where they would get more $$$ on the favorite (ATL) because the public and even the experts are all on ATL's side and my gut's telling me that Vegas will clean up with this one. I'm taking a small piece on the over 50.5 but will just sit back and watch the game because there seems to be other games on Sundays ticket that look to have more value.
I wouldn't be surprised though if by game time the line comes down to 2.5...think some out there are seeing how high they can get that line up to and then go large with the pts.
Teams that have lost by 25 pts this season are 15-4 aTs n teams that have beaten teams by 25 pts don't cover the following wk at 4-16 aTs. Good teams bounce back. I'm taking det. Do the research yourself and take a peak you have til tonight. Even the pats didn't cover against Mia after crushing the colts.... Interesting isn't it..... There trends for a reason and it happens for a reason. Plus this game is prime time... Det
Teams that have lost by 25 pts this season are 15-4 aTs n teams that have beaten teams by 25 pts don't cover the following wk at 4-16 aTs. Good teams bounce back. I'm taking det. Do the research yourself and take a peak you have til tonight. Even the pats didn't cover against Mia after crushing the colts.... Interesting isn't it..... There trends for a reason and it happens for a reason. Plus this game is prime time... Det
As long as the line stays above a FG, I like DET. Despite their record, the have played most teams close. The interesting thing is that ATL has played most teams close, too. Only twice this season has ATL blown out a team and looked dominant (PHI and NYG). At the time, no one knew how bad the Eagles were.
I see Atlanta coming back to earth (maybe carshing?) after that huge win.
DET for 2 units.
As long as the line stays above a FG, I like DET. Despite their record, the have played most teams close. The interesting thing is that ATL has played most teams close, too. Only twice this season has ATL blown out a team and looked dominant (PHI and NYG). At the time, no one knew how bad the Eagles were.
I see Atlanta coming back to earth (maybe carshing?) after that huge win.
The unfortunate problem with Detroit is they cannot run the ball and everyone knows to set the defense to stop Stafford and his receivers. Too one dimensional to win enough games to make the playoffs but the defense keeps them in most games. I think at home they play an unmotivated Falcons group down to the wire. Detroit + the points, small play for me. GL to all, should be an entertaining game to watch on a Saturday night.
The unfortunate problem with Detroit is they cannot run the ball and everyone knows to set the defense to stop Stafford and his receivers. Too one dimensional to win enough games to make the playoffs but the defense keeps them in most games. I think at home they play an unmotivated Falcons group down to the wire. Detroit + the points, small play for me. GL to all, should be an entertaining game to watch on a Saturday night.
1st i Agree this has too b the fishiest line ive seen come out in awhile its dropped too 3.5 and i just cant see the team that has the worst performance after last week playn an even game against the Falcons. so rather than get burnt on whatever vegas knows ill b hammering the ML Alt. gl too those that play any other bet.
Jim Martin
1st i Agree this has too b the fishiest line ive seen come out in awhile its dropped too 3.5 and i just cant see the team that has the worst performance after last week playn an even game against the Falcons. so rather than get burnt on whatever vegas knows ill b hammering the ML Alt. gl too those that play any other bet.
Detroit will beat Atlanta by 5. No doubt lions are decimated with injuries but calvin and Stafford will have the last laugh & interviews after the game on why they couldn't hold on to leads and win the games they should of had with better coaching
Detroit will beat Atlanta by 5. No doubt lions are decimated with injuries but calvin and Stafford will have the last laugh & interviews after the game on why they couldn't hold on to leads and win the games they should of had with better coaching
Teams that have lost by 25 pts this season are 15-4 aTs n teams that have beaten teams by 25 pts don't cover the following wk at 4-16 aTs. Good teams bounce back. I'm taking det. Do the research yourself and take a peak you have til tonight. Even the pats didn't cover against Mia after crushing the colts.... Interesting isn't it..... There trends for a reason and it happens for a reason. Plus this game is prime time... Det
so cal 311 , you may have saved me a C note, I beleieve you have a point. It's a no bet 4 me.
Quote Originally Posted by SoCal311:
Teams that have lost by 25 pts this season are 15-4 aTs n teams that have beaten teams by 25 pts don't cover the following wk at 4-16 aTs. Good teams bounce back. I'm taking det. Do the research yourself and take a peak you have til tonight. Even the pats didn't cover against Mia after crushing the colts.... Interesting isn't it..... There trends for a reason and it happens for a reason. Plus this game is prime time... Det
so cal 311 , you may have saved me a C note, I beleieve you have a point. It's a no bet 4 me.
BEWARE the Value of a half pt.
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