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    Arizona at Philadelphia (11/13/2011)

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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2011 - 1:30 AM ET #1

    Away:  Arizona [4-4 ATS]
    Home:  Philadelphia [3-5 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Lincoln Financial Field

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    Arizona:
    Passing: Kevin Kolb (1706)
    Rushing: Beanie Wells (526)
    Receiving: Larry Fitzgerald (646)

    Philadelphia:
    Passing: Michael Vick (2065)
    Rushing: LeSean McCoy (825)
    Receiving: Jeremy Maclin (606)

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    Away:  Arizona [4-4 ATS]
    Home:  Philadelphia [3-5 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Lincoln Financial Field

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Arizona:
    Passing: Kevin Kolb (1706)
    Rushing: Beanie Wells (526)
    Receiving: Larry Fitzgerald (646)

    Philadelphia:
    Passing: Michael Vick (2065)
    Rushing: LeSean McCoy (825)
    Receiving: Jeremy Maclin (606)

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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2011 - 6:55 PM ET #2

    I wish I could take credit for this, but I can't. Some sports radio talk show guy said this:

    "The Eagles are like a Lambourghini Diablo frame with a Hyundai engine - all show and no go, all flash and no cash"

    I agree, but they should still beat the Cards at home, right? No points yet, but still - - I'd take the "DeLorean's" (and yes, I made that up myself) of the NFL over the Cards by a touch and a FG............

     

    Egrets - - Minus -9.5

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    I wish I could take credit for this, but I can't. Some sports radio talk show guy said this:

    "The Eagles are like a Lambourghini Diablo frame with a Hyundai engine - all show and no go, all flash and no cash"

    I agree, but they should still beat the Cards at home, right? No points yet, but still - - I'd take the "DeLorean's" (and yes, I made that up myself) of the NFL over the Cards by a touch and a FG............

     

    Egrets - - Minus -9.5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2011 - 9:14 PM ET #3

    It's official....THE EAGLES SUCK

     

    philly=  overated azz organization, with an overated affirmative action qb in Michael Vick.  no lines as of this post

     

    I'm leaning towards...the UNDER         I would be leery to have Philly cover against anyone...even the cards...

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    It's official....THE EAGLES SUCK

     

    philly=  overated azz organization, with an overated affirmative action qb in Michael Vick.  no lines as of this post

     

    I'm leaning towards...the UNDER         I would be leery to have Philly cover against anyone...even the cards...

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 5:04 AM ET #4

    [Quote: Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah]

    I wish I could take credit for this, but I can't. Some sports radio talk show guy said this:

    "The Eagles are like a Lambourghini Diablo frame with a Hyundai engine - all show and no go, all flash and no cash"

    I agree, but they should still beat the Cards at home, right? No points yet, but still - - I'd take the "DeLorean's" (and yes, I made that up myself) of the NFL over the Cards by a touch and a FG............

     

    Egrets - - Minus -9.5

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    ok, I thought about it. u have some good points.  I'm hedging my bet.  Going with Philly to cover.  Philly did look GREAT against Dallas and they did play Chicago pretty pretty good.  and this is a do or die game for Philly.  I was just speaking from emotion earlier.  as a Dallas fan...I'm LOVING seeing this over hype team fall apart (Rob Ryan called it!).  I haven't seen this much hype for an EPIC FAIL Team since the 99 or 2000 Redskins that spent a league high 100+ mill payroll when the cap was like 75 mill that not only didn't make the Sb with aging stars like Bruce Smith, Deon Sanders, and qb Jeff George, but they didn't make the PLAYOFFS.

     

    History is repeating it self.    Philly has to go 7-1 the rest of the season just to make the PLAYOFFS!   that's how far this sorry arse organization has fallen.   Philly is behind superior teams like....   Cincy, Detroit, and San Francisco....YIKES     

    and let's not forget...arizona has played some CLOSEgames.  really really...close.   I wouldn't touch philly more than -4 or -5.    Both teams like to score and get scored on.  I'm thinking the total will be an Over/Under of 50.5.     I guess I will take the OVER, but with a heavy heart.

    this game is scary to say the least.  small play.....unless u are a diehard philly fan who absolutely knows  how ur OVERATED team is going to do.  Dallas fan here looking down on philly with disdain and disgust.  

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah]

    I wish I could take credit for this, but I can't. Some sports radio talk show guy said this:

    "The Eagles are like a Lambourghini Diablo frame with a Hyundai engine - all show and no go, all flash and no cash"

    I agree, but they should still beat the Cards at home, right? No points yet, but still - - I'd take the "DeLorean's" (and yes, I made that up myself) of the NFL over the Cards by a touch and a FG............

     

    Egrets - - Minus -9.5

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    ok, I thought about it. u have some good points.  I'm hedging my bet.  Going with Philly to cover.  Philly did look GREAT against Dallas and they did play Chicago pretty pretty good.  and this is a do or die game for Philly.  I was just speaking from emotion earlier.  as a Dallas fan...I'm LOVING seeing this over hype team fall apart (Rob Ryan called it!).  I haven't seen this much hype for an EPIC FAIL Team since the 99 or 2000 Redskins that spent a league high 100+ mill payroll when the cap was like 75 mill that not only didn't make the Sb with aging stars like Bruce Smith, Deon Sanders, and qb Jeff George, but they didn't make the PLAYOFFS.

     

    History is repeating it self.    Philly has to go 7-1 the rest of the season just to make the PLAYOFFS!   that's how far this sorry arse organization has fallen.   Philly is behind superior teams like....   Cincy, Detroit, and San Francisco....YIKES     

    and let's not forget...arizona has played some CLOSEgames.  really really...close.   I wouldn't touch philly more than -4 or -5.    Both teams like to score and get scored on.  I'm thinking the total will be an Over/Under of 50.5.     I guess I will take the OVER, but with a heavy heart.

    this game is scary to say the least.  small play.....unless u are a diehard philly fan who absolutely knows  how ur OVERATED team is going to do.  Dallas fan here looking down on philly with disdain and disgust.  

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 3:53 PM ET #5

    Eagles-up to 9.
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    Eagles-up to 9.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 6:09 PM ET #6

    I cant figure the Eagles out. I have the Cards at +13 which is very tempting right now
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    I cant figure the Eagles out. I have the Cards at +13 which is very tempting right now
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2011 - 3:29 PM ET #7

    I see this one coming down to defense. Specifically, will Arizona have one? The answer to that riddle is no and that means the Eagles win by 14+.

    The Eagles are an average team at best, but can flourish on offense when the opposite team lets them. This is a setup for Vick to look as great as the pundits keep saying the "Dream Team" is. This is a great Eagles bandwagon game for the faithful to fluff up their feathers. Did I mention Arizona is beat up too? Enjoy the win Eagles.
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    I see this one coming down to defense. Specifically, will Arizona have one? The answer to that riddle is no and that means the Eagles win by 14+.

    The Eagles are an average team at best, but can flourish on offense when the opposite team lets them. This is a setup for Vick to look as great as the pundits keep saying the "Dream Team" is. This is a great Eagles bandwagon game for the faithful to fluff up their feathers. Did I mention Arizona is beat up too? Enjoy the win Eagles.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2011 - 12:36 AM ET #8

    I really don't care how much Eagle is given or nothing. They are the most overrated team. Arizona all the ways. Eagle SUCK

    ARIZONA

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    I really don't care how much Eagle is given or nothing. They are the most overrated team. Arizona all the ways. Eagle SUCK

    ARIZONA

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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2011 - 2:30 AM ET #9

    i have lost faith in the eagles , az + the points to cover

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    i have lost faith in the eagles , az + the points to cover

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2011 - 3:56 AM ET #10

    Please don't be serious. The Eagles have been playing very well as of late, and their record is defintely lying. You know, they put on a gr8 performance against Chicago last week, and they have really stepped up their game. The Cardinals has no chance against Eagles, when Philadelphia is playing at home. Look at Arizonas performance, they are probably one of the worst team at the moment in the NFL, their quarterback position is very unstable and please; take a look at Kevin Kolb, i mean? are you serious? This should be a very easy win for the Eagles, they have very big play makers and one of the most explosive offenses in the league.

    I would go with the -9,5 spread and the over play here.
    Philadelphia will never lose to a team in the worst division. Good luck fellas.
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    Please don't be serious. The Eagles have been playing very well as of late, and their record is defintely lying. You know, they put on a gr8 performance against Chicago last week, and they have really stepped up their game. The Cardinals has no chance against Eagles, when Philadelphia is playing at home. Look at Arizonas performance, they are probably one of the worst team at the moment in the NFL, their quarterback position is very unstable and please; take a look at Kevin Kolb, i mean? are you serious? This should be a very easy win for the Eagles, they have very big play makers and one of the most explosive offenses in the league.

    I would go with the -9,5 spread and the over play here.
    Philadelphia will never lose to a team in the worst division. Good luck fellas.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2011 - 8:52 AM ET #11

    Philly is  far from impressive this year. They are so erratic it makes it hard to play their games. That being said, Philly shouldnt be giving 13 points to any team. With that in mind small play on AZ at +13
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    Philly is  far from impressive this year. They are so erratic it makes it hard to play their games. That being said, Philly shouldnt be giving 13 points to any team. With that in mind small play on AZ at +13
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2011 - 3:52 PM ET #12

    ARI +14 (1u) - The 3-5 dream team is not a doudle-digit winner, now that the line has reached the magic number of 14, i'll take the points.  Also thee Kolb backup is not that much of a downgrade on Winenunt's team.  Score: Eagles 21-Cardinals 14.
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    ARI +14 (1u) - The 3-5 dream team is not a doudle-digit winner, now that the line has reached the magic number of 14, i'll take the points.  Also thee Kolb backup is not that much of a downgrade on Winenunt's team.  Score: Eagles 21-Cardinals 14.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2011 - 4:04 PM ET #13

    love the cards here
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    love the cards here
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2011 - 8:36 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by ewillie169:

    ARI +14 (1u) - The 3-5 dream team is not a doudle-digit winner, now that the line has reached the magic number of 14, i'll take the points.  Also thee Kolb backup is not that much of a downgrade on Winenunt's team.  Score: Eagles 21-Cardinals 14.

    I agree with your assessment . Vegas appears to be "egging" people to play the Cardinals. I see the Eagles by 10- 12 points. This warrants a medium size wager. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm playing the percentages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ewillie169:

    ARI +14 (1u) - The 3-5 dream team is not a doudle-digit winner, now that the line has reached the magic number of 14, i'll take the points.  Also thee Kolb backup is not that much of a downgrade on Winenunt's team.  Score: Eagles 21-Cardinals 14.

    I agree with your assessment . Vegas appears to be "egging" people to play the Cardinals. I see the Eagles by 10- 12 points. This warrants a medium size wager. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm playing the percentages.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2011 - 10:20 PM ET #15

    Arizona is a really bad team with just 2 good guys on the entire team, they play in a soft division.

    This is a must win for the Eagles.  They will absolutely blow out the Cards this week!
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    Arizona is a really bad team with just 2 good guys on the entire team, they play in a soft division.

    This is a must win for the Eagles.  They will absolutely blow out the Cards this week!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2011 - 2:05 PM ET #16

    Philadelphia - 45                                     Arizona - 14

    Eagles  -14                                       over 46.5

    Vick Vick Vick, aren't you just getting Sick of Vick. Fortunatly Vick is playing a scrub team today so he should have a field day running up and down the Linc. Eagles tune up before big game with the G-Men next week.

    Eagles - Over

     

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    Philadelphia - 45                                     Arizona - 14

    Eagles  -14                                       over 46.5

    Vick Vick Vick, aren't you just getting Sick of Vick. Fortunatly Vick is playing a scrub team today so he should have a field day running up and down the Linc. Eagles tune up before big game with the G-Men next week.

    Eagles - Over

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2011 - 7:33 PM ET #17

    14 is to much for the eagles. Tempted to take the moneyline on the Cards. Cardinals have been playing close games against much better teams than the eagles.  14 points is a gift. to bad I bet my was already or I would pound AZ harder than an Olongapo hooker.
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    14 is to much for the eagles. Tempted to take the moneyline on the Cards. Cardinals have been playing close games against much better teams than the eagles.  14 points is a gift. to bad I bet my was already or I would pound AZ harder than an Olongapo hooker.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2011 - 7:59 PM ET #18

    Wow - line finally posted - 14? Fourteen??? Really!?!?!

    I figured like 8.5 or 9 or so, but 14???

    That's it, this is the perfect 7.5 teaser ratio - look at that, I'm already up by over 3 touchdowns, and it's not even Sunday yet.....

    Cardinals, and I'll probably 7.5 tease this with Carolina and something else - - too drunk to attempt it now, so.........stay tuned.........

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    Wow - line finally posted - 14? Fourteen??? Really!?!?!

    I figured like 8.5 or 9 or so, but 14???

    That's it, this is the perfect 7.5 teaser ratio - look at that, I'm already up by over 3 touchdowns, and it's not even Sunday yet.....

    Cardinals, and I'll probably 7.5 tease this with Carolina and something else - - too drunk to attempt it now, so.........stay tuned.........

     
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2011 - 12:22 AM ET #19

    This game has "go do yard work" written all over it....
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    This game has "go do yard work" written all over it....
     
    AceMackenzie
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2011 - 12:56 AM ET #20

    AZ appears to be up to +14 ,points before kick off ,

     too many points and the eagles aint no pride of the NFL 

    anymore ! AZ + 14 , give me the wood !

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    AZ appears to be up to +14 ,points before kick off ,

     too many points and the eagles aint no pride of the NFL 

    anymore ! AZ + 14 , give me the wood !

     
    dddevin69
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2011 - 1:16 AM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

    Wow - line finally posted - 14? Fourteen??? Really!?!?!

    I figured like 8.5 or 9 or so, but 14???

    That's it, this is the perfect 7.5 teaser ratio - look at that, I'm already up by over 3 touchdowns, and it's not even Sunday yet.....

    Cardinals, and I'll probably 7.5 tease this with Carolina and something else - - too drunk to attempt it now, so.........stay tuned.........

     

     

     

     

     

    dude....I AGREE                 u drunk is better than alot of these jokers sober.  Philly being favored by -14 is scary to say the least.  this has SUCKER bet written all over it.  That's why I'm still playing the OVER only.       Arizona is one of those teams that finds a way to be competitive at times...even with a backup qb.  No doubt philly wins...but 14 is toooo many points. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

    Wow - line finally posted - 14? Fourteen??? Really!?!?!

    I figured like 8.5 or 9 or so, but 14???

    That's it, this is the perfect 7.5 teaser ratio - look at that, I'm already up by over 3 touchdowns, and it's not even Sunday yet.....

    Cardinals, and I'll probably 7.5 tease this with Carolina and something else - - too drunk to attempt it now, so.........stay tuned.........

     

     

     

     

     

    dude....I AGREE                 u drunk is better than alot of these jokers sober.  Philly being favored by -14 is scary to say the least.  this has SUCKER bet written all over it.  That's why I'm still playing the OVER only.       Arizona is one of those teams that finds a way to be competitive at times...even with a backup qb.  No doubt philly wins...but 14 is toooo many points. 

     
    byabeach
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2011 - 5:31 AM ET #22

    I think you got this one right Col

     

    PHILLY 

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    I think you got this one right Col

     

    PHILLY 

     
    pcz
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2011 - 5:33 AM ET #23

    This is why the line is so high:
    Kevin Kolb QB Doub Sun - Foot - 11/08/11 notes 1-0 0-1
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    This is why the line is so high:
    Kevin Kolb QB Doub Sun - Foot - 11/08/11 notes 1-0 0-1
     
    bartleby11
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2011 - 7:54 AM ET #24

    Take the points.
    CARDINALS +14
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    Take the points.
    CARDINALS +14
     
     
    Lar1212
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2011 - 9:46 AM ET #25

    That's a lot of points...
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    That's a lot of points...
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