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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2009 - 1:10 PM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by Fpronk:

    I agree with many in this thread. I think Vegas wants money on AZ..this line should probably be Panthers -7.5 or -8....but they want the early money on AZ. Having this line at 10 makes it more difficult for the public to bet Carolina. I've watched this team several times this year and like how this team is starting to peak at the right time.
     
    Arizona played a good, young, inexperienced Falcons team at home. I don't know what else I need to say about that game. It was good for AZ to get a home playoff win but that's as far as they get. This team has been in conisistent all year and I look to the Giants game when making my play here. They lost that game by 11 points, at home, with both Plaxico and Jacobs out.
     
    Carolina will win this game and win it big. Expect AZ turnovers to lead the Panther points. The Panthers will stop any run game AZ tries to develop and force Warner to throw. Warner will throw picks and fumble. I expect the Panthers to win this game 38 - 20.
     
    Panthers -10
     
     

    Warner had pretty good numbers last time Panthers forced him to throw.....I still like the Panthers, but in a close one.

    Car...ML  or even with:

    Balt+13

    Pitt +4....in a 3 teamer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fpronk:

    I agree with many in this thread. I think Vegas wants money on AZ..this line should probably be Panthers -7.5 or -8....but they want the early money on AZ. Having this line at 10 makes it more difficult for the public to bet Carolina. I've watched this team several times this year and like how this team is starting to peak at the right time.
     
    Arizona played a good, young, inexperienced Falcons team at home. I don't know what else I need to say about that game. It was good for AZ to get a home playoff win but that's as far as they get. This team has been in conisistent all year and I look to the Giants game when making my play here. They lost that game by 11 points, at home, with both Plaxico and Jacobs out.
     
    Carolina will win this game and win it big. Expect AZ turnovers to lead the Panther points. The Panthers will stop any run game AZ tries to develop and force Warner to throw. Warner will throw picks and fumble. I expect the Panthers to win this game 38 - 20.
     
    Panthers -10
     
     

    Warner had pretty good numbers last time Panthers forced him to throw.....I still like the Panthers, but in a close one.

    Car...ML  or even with:

    Balt+13

    Pitt +4....in a 3 teamer.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2009 - 1:26 PM ET #52

    I agree with you and understand Warner played alright in their previous meeting. But, in the NFL it's about teams peaking at the right time and the Panthers, Chargers, and Ravens are the 3 teams I see playing the best right now. All 3 of these teams seem to be playing on all Cylinders...look to the Panthers last 2 home games against Tampa Bay and Denver if you want to know how this one turns out.
     
    Denver was 4-1 in their last 5 coming into that game and was averaging just over 25 ppg in those 5 games. The came into Carolina gave up 30 and the Panthers held them to 10.
     
    Tampa was also 4-1 in their last 5 and 4-0 in their last 4 and 9-3 overall before running into Carolina. Tampa acutally ended up losing their last 4 and any chances of being in the playoffs. Tampa lost to Carolina despite Antonio Bryant catching 2 TD passes and going for over 200 yards receiving. 
     
     
     
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    I agree with you and understand Warner played alright in their previous meeting. But, in the NFL it's about teams peaking at the right time and the Panthers, Chargers, and Ravens are the 3 teams I see playing the best right now. All 3 of these teams seem to be playing on all Cylinders...look to the Panthers last 2 home games against Tampa Bay and Denver if you want to know how this one turns out.
     
    Denver was 4-1 in their last 5 coming into that game and was averaging just over 25 ppg in those 5 games. The came into Carolina gave up 30 and the Panthers held them to 10.
     
    Tampa was also 4-1 in their last 5 and 4-0 in their last 4 and 9-3 overall before running into Carolina. Tampa acutally ended up losing their last 4 and any chances of being in the playoffs. Tampa lost to Carolina despite Antonio Bryant catching 2 TD passes and going for over 200 yards receiving. 
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2009 - 3:16 PM ET #53

    The weather is expected to be right around the freezing point or slightly above.  There doesn't expect to be any precipitation during this game.

    Regardless, in this weather and without Boldin (strained hamstring will limit him even if he does play), you have to be able to run the ball.  Carolina has proven to be proficient.  10 points is a lot to ask, however, with most people are taking the points, this line moved opposite direction.  The Cardinals,bless them, had a good season but it ends this week.  

    I will tease this only half a point and ride the Panthers over a one dimensional offense that cannot run the ball.

    Carolina ML and -9.5 
    Good Luck All 
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    The weather is expected to be right around the freezing point or slightly above.  There doesn't expect to be any precipitation during this game.

    Regardless, in this weather and without Boldin (strained hamstring will limit him even if he does play), you have to be able to run the ball.  Carolina has proven to be proficient.  10 points is a lot to ask, however, with most people are taking the points, this line moved opposite direction.  The Cardinals,bless them, had a good season but it ends this week.  

    I will tease this only half a point and ride the Panthers over a one dimensional offense that cannot run the ball.

    Carolina ML and -9.5 
    Good Luck All 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2009 - 4:37 PM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by Fpronk:

    I agree with you and understand Warner played alright in their previous meeting. But, in the NFL it's about teams peaking at the right time and the Panthers, Chargers, and Ravens are the 3 teams I see playing the best right now. All 3 of these teams seem to be playing on all Cylinders...look to the Panthers last 2 home games against Tampa Bay and Denver if you want to know how this one turns out.
     
    Denver was 4-1 in their last 5 coming into that game and was averaging just over 25 ppg in those 5 games. The came into Carolina gave up 30 and the Panthers held them to 10.
     
    Tampa was also 4-1 in their last 5 and 4-0 in their last 4 and 9-3 overall before running into Carolina. Tampa acutally ended up losing their last 4 and any chances of being in the playoffs. Tampa lost to Carolina despite Antonio Bryant catching 2 TD passes and going for over 200 yards receiving. 
     
     
     

    well if Boldin is out.... Larry Fitz can have that kinda day and Arizona will still probably lose because they can't run the football... I feel good about Carolina.... still measuring my testicles to see if they are big enough to take the moneyline lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fpronk:

    I agree with you and understand Warner played alright in their previous meeting. But, in the NFL it's about teams peaking at the right time and the Panthers, Chargers, and Ravens are the 3 teams I see playing the best right now. All 3 of these teams seem to be playing on all Cylinders...look to the Panthers last 2 home games against Tampa Bay and Denver if you want to know how this one turns out.
     
    Denver was 4-1 in their last 5 coming into that game and was averaging just over 25 ppg in those 5 games. The came into Carolina gave up 30 and the Panthers held them to 10.
     
    Tampa was also 4-1 in their last 5 and 4-0 in their last 4 and 9-3 overall before running into Carolina. Tampa acutally ended up losing their last 4 and any chances of being in the playoffs. Tampa lost to Carolina despite Antonio Bryant catching 2 TD passes and going for over 200 yards receiving. 
     
     
     

    well if Boldin is out.... Larry Fitz can have that kinda day and Arizona will still probably lose because they can't run the football... I feel good about Carolina.... still measuring my testicles to see if they are big enough to take the moneyline lol

     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2009 - 5:07 PM ET #55

    Carolina -10... Zona had a good year, a big step in the right direction. Made the playoffs, had a home game and won. But I think their bus comes to a halt this weekend... GL to all  
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    Carolina -10... Zona had a good year, a big step in the right direction. Made the playoffs, had a home game and won. But I think their bus comes to a halt this weekend... GL to all  
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2009 - 9:50 PM ET #56

    Arizona Cardnals +10
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    Arizona Cardnals +10
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 12:32 AM ET #57

    W8LIFTER I will be fading you HUGE in this game

    CAROLINA 10k MONEYLINE

    Thanks for PLAYING

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    W8LIFTER I will be fading you HUGE in this game

    CAROLINA 10k MONEYLINE

    Thanks for PLAYING

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 9:44 AM ET #58

    How are you fading him if you're taking the Moneyline...He didn't say Arizona was going to win....if you want to fade him, man up and put your money on -10...then you're fading him.
     
    Oh, I like your white top in the picture too, my wife's been looking for that top. Any help would be appreciated.
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    How are you fading him if you're taking the Moneyline...He didn't say Arizona was going to win....if you want to fade him, man up and put your money on -10...then you're fading him.
     
    Oh, I like your white top in the picture too, my wife's been looking for that top. Any help would be appreciated.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 12:23 PM ET #59

    Over for me. This game should be a shootout.  Too many offensive weapons with Fitz, Boldin, Smith, Williams/Stewart.
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    Over for me. This game should be a shootout.  Too many offensive weapons with Fitz, Boldin, Smith, Williams/Stewart.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 12:34 PM ET #60

    FPronk you are a great handicapper and I have mad respect for you

    Throw one back 4 me

    Carolina's run game will take over and CONTROL THE CLOCK

    Cards wont win and I doubt they keep it close

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    FPronk you are a great handicapper and I have mad respect for you

    Throw one back 4 me

    Carolina's run game will take over and CONTROL THE CLOCK

    Cards wont win and I doubt they keep it close

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 1:12 PM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by DyHardBillsFan:

    W8LIFTER I will be fading you HUGE in this game

    CAROLINA 10k MONEYLINE

    Thanks for PLAYING

      Like Fpronk said, how do you figure fading me here??? Better get up with giving the ten if you dare fade me...  

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by DyHardBillsFan:

    W8LIFTER I will be fading you HUGE in this game

    CAROLINA 10k MONEYLINE

    Thanks for PLAYING

      Like Fpronk said, how do you figure fading me here??? Better get up with giving the ten if you dare fade me...  

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 1:14 PM ET #62

    The Cards screwed me last week in the 1st half at home  Can't see them traveling to Carolina and taking an early lead. Carolina normally covers ats in the 1st half at home I'm leaning on taking them in the 1st half.
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    The Cards screwed me last week in the 1st half at home  Can't see them traveling to Carolina and taking an early lead. Carolina normally covers ats in the 1st half at home I'm leaning on taking them in the 1st half.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 1:24 PM ET #63

    Quote Originally Posted by W8LIFTER:

      Like Fpronk said, how do you figure fading me here??? Better get up with giving the ten if you dare fade me...  

    I don't dare fade you my friend lol... however we are on opposite sides on almost every game this weekend.... making me second and third guess....

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    Quote Originally Posted by W8LIFTER:

      Like Fpronk said, how do you figure fading me here??? Better get up with giving the ten if you dare fade me...  

    I don't dare fade you my friend lol... however we are on opposite sides on almost every game this weekend.... making me second and third guess....

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 7:40 PM ET #64

    Quote Originally Posted by Fpronk:

    I agree with many in this thread. I think Vegas wants money on AZ..this line should probably be Panthers -7.5 or -8....but they want the early money on AZ. Having this line at 10 makes it more difficult for the public to bet Carolina. I've watched this team several times this year and like how this team is starting to peak at the right time.
     
    Arizona played a good, young, inexperienced Falcons team at home. I don't know what else I need to say about that game. It was good for AZ to get a home playoff win but that's as far as they get. This team has been in conisistent all year and I look to the Giants game when making my play here. They lost that game by 11 points, at home, with both Plaxico and Jacobs out.
     
    Carolina will win this game and win it big. Expect AZ turnovers to lead the Panther points. The Panthers will stop any run game AZ tries to develop and force Warner to throw. Warner will throw picks and fumble. I expect the Panthers to win this game 38 - 20.
     
    Panthers -10
     
     

    I still stand on a 35-17-ish game

    CAROLINA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fpronk:

    I agree with many in this thread. I think Vegas wants money on AZ..this line should probably be Panthers -7.5 or -8....but they want the early money on AZ. Having this line at 10 makes it more difficult for the public to bet Carolina. I've watched this team several times this year and like how this team is starting to peak at the right time.
     
    Arizona played a good, young, inexperienced Falcons team at home. I don't know what else I need to say about that game. It was good for AZ to get a home playoff win but that's as far as they get. This team has been in conisistent all year and I look to the Giants game when making my play here. They lost that game by 11 points, at home, with both Plaxico and Jacobs out.
     
    Carolina will win this game and win it big. Expect AZ turnovers to lead the Panther points. The Panthers will stop any run game AZ tries to develop and force Warner to throw. Warner will throw picks and fumble. I expect the Panthers to win this game 38 - 20.
     
    Panthers -10
     
     

    I still stand on a 35-17-ish game

    CAROLINA

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2009 - 3:20 AM ET #65

    TO ALL YOU FPRONK TYPES KEEP THE INFO COMING WE NEED TO MURDER OUR BOOKS THIS WEEKEND.  JUST WAITING ON IRISHEYEZ OPINION
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    TO ALL YOU FPRONK TYPES KEEP THE INFO COMING WE NEED TO MURDER OUR BOOKS THIS WEEKEND.  JUST WAITING ON IRISHEYEZ OPINION
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2009 - 6:44 AM ET #66

    i just think carolina is and gets more physical in this game period. i have a funny feeling warner gets a concussion in this one. just a hunch.
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    i just think carolina is and gets more physical in this game period. i have a funny feeling warner gets a concussion in this one. just a hunch.
     
    BreakaBookie
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2009 - 9:39 AM ET #67

    OK.......... IM GOING TO DO IT..............
     
     
    Carolina Moneyline.....
     
    Small play on Carolina -10.......
     
    small because I am weary of a backdoor cover.... but no way Arizona beats Carolina off a bye on the road on the east coast in the rain....
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    OK.......... IM GOING TO DO IT..............
     
     
    Carolina Moneyline.....
     
    Small play on Carolina -10.......
     
    small because I am weary of a backdoor cover.... but no way Arizona beats Carolina off a bye on the road on the east coast in the rain....
     
    T-One
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2009 - 10:01 AM ET #68

    Quote Originally Posted by T-One:

    Early lean on the Cardinals.  I think this double digit line is misleading.


    Changed my mind.  Carolina wins and covers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-One:

    Early lean on the Cardinals.  I think this double digit line is misleading.


    Changed my mind.  Carolina wins and covers.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2009 - 10:08 AM ET #69

    Tease Zona +16/Over 42 5 units
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    Tease Zona +16/Over 42 5 units
     
    NCharlotte
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2009 - 10:36 AM ET #70

    Carolina all the way..Well rested Panthers playing at home
    Cardinals    no chance..
    Panthers -10 10units...
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    Carolina all the way..Well rested Panthers playing at home
    Cardinals    no chance..
    Panthers -10 10units...
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2009 - 12:35 PM ET #71

    ZONA + 10.  THIS MAY BIG A BIG UPSET IF  ZONA CAN RUN THE BALL WITH A HEALTHY EDGRIN JAMES AND HIGHTOWER.  I SMELL UPSET!!
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    ZONA + 10.  THIS MAY BIG A BIG UPSET IF  ZONA CAN RUN THE BALL WITH A HEALTHY EDGRIN JAMES AND HIGHTOWER.  I SMELL UPSET!!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2009 - 12:58 PM ET #72

    Carolina wins easily and going away.
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    Carolina wins easily and going away.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2009 - 2:38 PM ET #73

     SEEMS LIKE EVERYONE IS RIDING PANTHERS MIN 10.  so ill fade here

    I will take a small play on cards plus the 10 in a playoff game.  Do i think panthers win? of course, but this is the nfl playoffs and i think arizona covers in a fourth quarter scramble, but looses!  and my homers were on the 3 yrd line twice with no touchdown! ok would have covered wow.  bob stoops sir

    PANTHERS 28 CARDS 20

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     SEEMS LIKE EVERYONE IS RIDING PANTHERS MIN 10.  so ill fade here

    I will take a small play on cards plus the 10 in a playoff game.  Do i think panthers win? of course, but this is the nfl playoffs and i think arizona covers in a fourth quarter scramble, but looses!  and my homers were on the 3 yrd line twice with no touchdown! ok would have covered wow.  bob stoops sir

    PANTHERS 28 CARDS 20

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2009 - 2:41 PM ET #74

    Quote Originally Posted by NCharlotte:

    Carolina all the way..Well rested Panthers playing at home
    Cardinals    no chance..
    Panthers -10 10units...

    LOL IT NEVER STOPS! IT JUST NEVER STOPS! HEAD FIRST, JUST JUMP, DO IT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCharlotte:

    Carolina all the way..Well rested Panthers playing at home
    Cardinals    no chance..
    Panthers -10 10units...

    LOL IT NEVER STOPS! IT JUST NEVER STOPS! HEAD FIRST, JUST JUMP, DO IT!

     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2009 - 2:54 PM ET #75

    (8-0)at HOME CAROLINA - 10

    CAROLINA - 35     ARIZONA - 14
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    (8-0)at HOME CAROLINA - 10

    CAROLINA - 35     ARIZONA - 14
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