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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2009 - 10:09 AM ET #101

    Cardinals vs. Panthers -9.5 (2 units) - biggest spread for the weekend and I gotta stick with it because the Cardinals have struggled on the East Coast.  Carolina is rested and they can play ball control with that sweet run game they have.  If the Arizona offense abandons the run early than you can stick a fork in them.  Kurt Warner will not be able to throw 40+ times and win the game.  Boldin will most likely be out for the game too.  The only thing I'm worried about is a backdoor cover here with a garbage time TD.
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    Cardinals vs. Panthers -9.5 (2 units) - biggest spread for the weekend and I gotta stick with it because the Cardinals have struggled on the East Coast.  Carolina is rested and they can play ball control with that sweet run game they have.  If the Arizona offense abandons the run early than you can stick a fork in them.  Kurt Warner will not be able to throw 40+ times and win the game.  Boldin will most likely be out for the game too.  The only thing I'm worried about is a backdoor cover here with a garbage time TD.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2009 - 10:42 AM ET #102

    Could be some rain here; which always suggests a total. But Jake is a far better hometown Qb than he is a road Qb. Jake has a nice
    11:5 ratio in the Queen City.

    Jake slips to a lowly 4:7 as a guest.

    That said, Warrner can wing that rock. Though he has not topped 3oo
    passing since week #12. That reads like an old guy with a tired arm to
    me. I took CAR+4 on a teaser. 0.05u with last nites Boxing.


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    Could be some rain here; which always suggests a total. But Jake is a far better hometown Qb than he is a road Qb. Jake has a nice
    11:5 ratio in the Queen City.

    Jake slips to a lowly 4:7 as a guest.

    That said, Warrner can wing that rock. Though he has not topped 3oo
    passing since week #12. That reads like an old guy with a tired arm to
    me. I took CAR+4 on a teaser. 0.05u with last nites Boxing.


    bigeiii
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2009 - 10:48 AM ET #103

    Carolina -10
    Over 48
     
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    Carolina -10
    Over 48
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2009 - 10:50 AM ET #104

    I agree with the ColonelJim, but wait I am having a message from outer space. Please. Even though the Cards lost travelling east, I think this is a shootout. Both offense almost average 30 pts a  game. I think I saw a defense from Arizona last week. I see Arizona covering an possibly winning out right. Look at the odds of a team losing 6 times travelling east? Are they due? My bet is the Cards, and the points and the over. Is it cocktail time yet? Its noon somewhere. GL and lets take Vegas's money Oh and don't trip over a camel toe.
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    I agree with the ColonelJim, but wait I am having a message from outer space. Please. Even though the Cards lost travelling east, I think this is a shootout. Both offense almost average 30 pts a  game. I think I saw a defense from Arizona last week. I see Arizona covering an possibly winning out right. Look at the odds of a team losing 6 times travelling east? Are they due? My bet is the Cards, and the points and the over. Is it cocktail time yet? Its noon somewhere. GL and lets take Vegas's money Oh and don't trip over a camel toe.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2009 - 10:56 AM ET #105

    Going back to 11/16 of this year, these two teams are a combined 12-3 on the OVER!!!!  If you just played the over in every Cards game this year you only lost 5 times!!!  There is just something about this team and the over the total!  Carolina isn't any slouch when it comes to hitting the big either.  Especially the last 6 weeks of the season.  So, now you know I'll be on the over, just because the over in Cards games is one of the stongest trend bets in the NFL this year. 
     
    To try to insulate against any significant lose of money on this game, so I'll take the dog and the 10 points.  Two even amounts on the over and the dog.  It is extrodinarily improbable one or the other of these outcomes doesn't happen!  And in my humble opinion, I think they both could hit.........which wouldn't be a bad thing for me.
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    Going back to 11/16 of this year, these two teams are a combined 12-3 on the OVER!!!!  If you just played the over in every Cards game this year you only lost 5 times!!!  There is just something about this team and the over the total!  Carolina isn't any slouch when it comes to hitting the big either.  Especially the last 6 weeks of the season.  So, now you know I'll be on the over, just because the over in Cards games is one of the stongest trend bets in the NFL this year. 
     
    To try to insulate against any significant lose of money on this game, so I'll take the dog and the 10 points.  Two even amounts on the over and the dog.  It is extrodinarily improbable one or the other of these outcomes doesn't happen!  And in my humble opinion, I think they both could hit.........which wouldn't be a bad thing for me.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2009 - 11:06 AM ET #106

    NCrum made a good point about Delhomme. I am not looking at my crystal ball, but I see Delhomme losing the game for Carolina. I think Warner has a one of the best games of his life because he plays up to big games. I am looking the QB matchup here and my make a small parley on Arizona and the pointsl and Ravens  and the pts. Feel better about the Ravens winning on the road than the Cards, but an upset has to happen and playing the odds> Remember, Americans traditionally bet the over and I think 48.5 is high, and the statisitcs are for the regular season. Remember, the playoff, PLAYOFF?, are a whole new season. That being said. I am staying away from the total and just making a small bet on the side. Arizona + 9.5, before it goes down with the Ravens and the points. What I don't like is the public pushing the points down because most people in Vegas will take the points. I usually have my mine made up when I go to the casino, but there are a couple of wiseguys that I listen to. GL
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    NCrum made a good point about Delhomme. I am not looking at my crystal ball, but I see Delhomme losing the game for Carolina. I think Warner has a one of the best games of his life because he plays up to big games. I am looking the QB matchup here and my make a small parley on Arizona and the pointsl and Ravens  and the pts. Feel better about the Ravens winning on the road than the Cards, but an upset has to happen and playing the odds> Remember, Americans traditionally bet the over and I think 48.5 is high, and the statisitcs are for the regular season. Remember, the playoff, PLAYOFF?, are a whole new season. That being said. I am staying away from the total and just making a small bet on the side. Arizona + 9.5, before it goes down with the Ravens and the points. What I don't like is the public pushing the points down because most people in Vegas will take the points. I usually have my mine made up when I go to the casino, but there are a couple of wiseguys that I listen to. GL
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2009 - 11:30 AM ET #107

    NOT SO FAST ON THE OVER BOYS,  RAIN IN THE FORECAST!
     
    AND WE ALL KNOW ITS A GREAT RUN GAME HERE WITH PANTHERS, BUT I EXPECT CARDS TO STACK THE BOX LIKE THE DID WITH FALCONS, ONLY PROBLEM THESE BACK ARE BETTER THAN NORWOOD AND WILL BREAK BIG PLAYS!! IM STILL LEANING UNDER HERE SMALL PLAY, ENOUGH TO MAKE IT INTERESTING.
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    NOT SO FAST ON THE OVER BOYS,  RAIN IN THE FORECAST!
     
    AND WE ALL KNOW ITS A GREAT RUN GAME HERE WITH PANTHERS, BUT I EXPECT CARDS TO STACK THE BOX LIKE THE DID WITH FALCONS, ONLY PROBLEM THESE BACK ARE BETTER THAN NORWOOD AND WILL BREAK BIG PLAYS!! IM STILL LEANING UNDER HERE SMALL PLAY, ENOUGH TO MAKE IT INTERESTING.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2009 - 11:32 AM ET #108

    Cards Off. edge: PPG, YPG, Pass YPG, Comp. %, Interceptions, Sacks,  Possession
     
    Panthers Off. edge: YPG, Rushing YPG, Rushing YPA
     
    Cards D edge: Rushing YPG & YPA, Interceptions, Sacks, Possesion
     
    Panthers D edge: PPG, YPG, Passing YPG & Comp %
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    Cards Off. edge: PPG, YPG, Pass YPG, Comp. %, Interceptions, Sacks,  Possession
     
    Panthers Off. edge: YPG, Rushing YPG, Rushing YPA
     
    Cards D edge: Rushing YPG & YPA, Interceptions, Sacks, Possesion
     
    Panthers D edge: PPG, YPG, Passing YPG & Comp %
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2009 - 11:37 AM ET #109

    2 play tease (6 pts)    Balt/Tenn over 28/ Cards +16
     
    good bet?
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    2 play tease (6 pts)    Balt/Tenn over 28/ Cards +16
     
    good bet?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2009 - 12:15 PM ET #110

    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddyhpd:

    The Cards screwed me last week in the 1st half at home  Can't see them traveling to Carolina and taking an early lead. Carolina normally covers ats in the 1st half at home I'm leaning on taking them in the 1st half.

     

    ARI WILL BE A DIFFERENT TEAM THIS WEEK. IF PANTHERS COME OUT FLAT ARI WILL WIN OUTRIGHT.. ML IS 350. WHATS 500 ON A SHOT AT 1750... I THINK THE ODDS ARE 50/50 AT WORSE BUT IF THEY DON'T WIN THEY PROB WONT COVER EITHER.... IF CLOSE ARIZONA WINS...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddyhpd:

    The Cards screwed me last week in the 1st half at home  Can't see them traveling to Carolina and taking an early lead. Carolina normally covers ats in the 1st half at home I'm leaning on taking them in the 1st half.

     

    ARI WILL BE A DIFFERENT TEAM THIS WEEK. IF PANTHERS COME OUT FLAT ARI WILL WIN OUTRIGHT.. ML IS 350. WHATS 500 ON A SHOT AT 1750... I THINK THE ODDS ARE 50/50 AT WORSE BUT IF THEY DON'T WIN THEY PROB WONT COVER EITHER.... IF CLOSE ARIZONA WINS...

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2009 - 1:16 PM ET #111

    Too much running, too much Steve Smith, too much defense in Warner's face. Carolina minus 10!
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    Too much running, too much Steve Smith, too much defense in Warner's face. Carolina minus 10!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2009 - 1:17 PM ET #112

    small problem 4 me to be staring at a male wearing a banana hammick posing 4 who knows what. anyway back to the games
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    small problem 4 me to be staring at a male wearing a banana hammick posing 4 who knows what. anyway back to the games
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2009 - 1:53 PM ET #113

    Usually just play the college games until it is over.  So what to do with the money I won on CFB?  Add to it by playing safely on the limited pro games that give me enugh time to study.  Today's safest winning play is:
     
    Two team tease--------Ravens +9  combined with  Carolina  -4. 
     
    GL to all the players, appreciate the informative posts.
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    Usually just play the college games until it is over.  So what to do with the money I won on CFB?  Add to it by playing safely on the limited pro games that give me enugh time to study.  Today's safest winning play is:
     
    Two team tease--------Ravens +9  combined with  Carolina  -4. 
     
    GL to all the players, appreciate the informative posts.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2009 - 2:36 PM ET #114

    Quote Originally Posted by IBET2WIN:

    DUDE YOU KEEP ON POSTINGCarolina ML HUGE!!!  BUT HOW HUGE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE ??  5K ? 10k?  15?  DAM IT SEEMS LIKE YOU MIGHT JUST BET YOUR WHOLE HOUSE ON THIS ONE...I DONT BLAME YOU ...I THINK CAROLINA IS GONNA BLOW THE LIGHTS OUT OF THE CARDS..NE PATS KILLED THE CARDS BY 40 PTS IN WEEK 16 WITH THIER RUNNING GAME...I THINK CAROLINA HAS A BETTER RUNNING GAME THEN NE. BUT ANYWAYS HOPE YOU WIN MANG...CAUSE IT SEEMS YOUR ABOUT TO LAY EVERYTHING ON THE LINE WITH THIS PATHERS GAME...I THINK IMMA PLAY CAROLINA ML..TOO...GOOD LUCK

    IT'S 11:20 AM HERE IN VEGAS! I HAVE ARRIVED! Now to your question... "Huge" is relative to your bank I guess. I personally will be wagering $6,500.00 on this game. This is my first time wagering in vegas. I have a 50k marker at the cage (nervous as hell). I never knew (until now) what lines they offered here in vegas as far as what they allowed for wagering. Here is what they have on this game here at the SuperBook in the LV Hilton.

    Panthers -10
    Total: 49
    1st Half: -6.5
    1stQ: -3
    Alternate Point Spreads:
    Panthers +3.5 -650
    Cards     -3.5 +475
    Panthers -3.5 -220
    Cards      +3.5 +190
    Panthers  -14.5 +190
    Cards +14.5 -220

    There are a few other proposition bets but nothing I liked.

    I personally will be taking the Panthers +3.5 for $6,500 to win a G. FREE MONEY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBET2WIN:

    DUDE YOU KEEP ON POSTINGCarolina ML HUGE!!!  BUT HOW HUGE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE ??  5K ? 10k?  15?  DAM IT SEEMS LIKE YOU MIGHT JUST BET YOUR WHOLE HOUSE ON THIS ONE...I DONT BLAME YOU ...I THINK CAROLINA IS GONNA BLOW THE LIGHTS OUT OF THE CARDS..NE PATS KILLED THE CARDS BY 40 PTS IN WEEK 16 WITH THIER RUNNING GAME...I THINK CAROLINA HAS A BETTER RUNNING GAME THEN NE. BUT ANYWAYS HOPE YOU WIN MANG...CAUSE IT SEEMS YOUR ABOUT TO LAY EVERYTHING ON THE LINE WITH THIS PATHERS GAME...I THINK IMMA PLAY CAROLINA ML..TOO...GOOD LUCK

    IT'S 11:20 AM HERE IN VEGAS! I HAVE ARRIVED! Now to your question... "Huge" is relative to your bank I guess. I personally will be wagering $6,500.00 on this game. This is my first time wagering in vegas. I have a 50k marker at the cage (nervous as hell). I never knew (until now) what lines they offered here in vegas as far as what they allowed for wagering. Here is what they have on this game here at the SuperBook in the LV Hilton.

    Panthers -10
    Total: 49
    1st Half: -6.5
    1stQ: -3
    Alternate Point Spreads:
    Panthers +3.5 -650
    Cards     -3.5 +475
    Panthers -3.5 -220
    Cards      +3.5 +190
    Panthers  -14.5 +190
    Cards +14.5 -220

    There are a few other proposition bets but nothing I liked.

    I personally will be taking the Panthers +3.5 for $6,500 to win a G. FREE MONEY!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2009 - 2:39 PM ET #115

    To Add to the above Post... The 1stQ total is 9.5 and 1st half total is 24.5. Panthers ML is -450 and Cards +350

    Wish Me luck!
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    To Add to the above Post... The 1stQ total is 9.5 and 1st half total is 24.5. Panthers ML is -450 and Cards +350

    Wish Me luck!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2009 - 3:04 PM ET #116

    dude good luck.
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    dude good luck.
     
    rekamyenoM
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2009 - 3:13 PM ET #117

    Quote Originally Posted by jgenti:

    dude good luck.

    Thanks JG.... I hope I don't need any luck. Panthers should CRUSH! The only good thing about being here is the instant payout. I am in my room with their lines sheets. You study on your computer in your room, then go place the bet. Sitting in that sports book is a waste of time and smokey...... I hope to malk away with 3 to 5 k between today and tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgenti:

    dude good luck.

    Thanks JG.... I hope I don't need any luck. Panthers should CRUSH! The only good thing about being here is the instant payout. I am in my room with their lines sheets. You study on your computer in your room, then go place the bet. Sitting in that sports book is a waste of time and smokey...... I hope to malk away with 3 to 5 k between today and tomorrow.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2009 - 3:17 PM ET #118

    Quote Originally Posted by silverbull271:

    Zona+10
     
     
    This is th NFL.....and its the playoffs....Way to many points!

    If you have watched enough football over the years, you would know that there have been many BEATDOWNS in the NFL playoffs.  And that is why the spread is as high as it is.  Arizona may have fared well against a rookie qb on their home turf, but they will show their true colors when they play in Carolina.

    Carolina 35    Arizona  14

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverbull271:

    Zona+10
     
     
    This is th NFL.....and its the playoffs....Way to many points!

    If you have watched enough football over the years, you would know that there have been many BEATDOWNS in the NFL playoffs.  And that is why the spread is as high as it is.  Arizona may have fared well against a rookie qb on their home turf, but they will show their true colors when they play in Carolina.

    Carolina 35    Arizona  14

     
    jackal7130
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2009 - 4:11 PM ET #119

    Its too bad this will be the last time I can clean up on the Panthers and the Over!

    Cuz next week its the GMEN! and that one, wont be close!
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    Its too bad this will be the last time I can clean up on the Panthers and the Over!

    Cuz next week its the GMEN! and that one, wont be close!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2009 - 4:33 PM ET #120

    PANTHERS: BIG BIG BIG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    PANTHERS: BIG BIG BIG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
    rekamyenoM
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2009 - 4:47 PM ET #121

    Going down to place bet now.....
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    Going down to place bet now.....
     
    wangichu
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2009 - 5:06 PM ET #122

    Quote Originally Posted by rekamyenoM:

    Going down to place bet now.....


    i'm with you man... let's do this!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rekamyenoM:

    Going down to place bet now.....


    i'm with you man... let's do this!!
     
    CrimsonSteel
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2009 - 5:17 PM ET #123

    how well will Warner perform with wet gloves and a pass happy offense....i still worry about 10 points though....
     
    Still thinking
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    how well will Warner perform with wet gloves and a pass happy offense....i still worry about 10 points though....
     
    Still thinking
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2009 - 5:45 PM ET #124

    It's a;most as if the first game didn't exist.....10? I'll take that all day!
     
    ZONA +10 cashes the ticket tonight!
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    It's a;most as if the first game didn't exist.....10? I'll take that all day!
     
    ZONA +10 cashes the ticket tonight!
     
     
    sm1975
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2009 - 6:12 PM ET #125

    I don't think I've read one post that has the Cards covering.  For almost that reason alone, I'm laying 3 sheets on Arizona tonight.  Thanks for your insight and BOL to all.
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    I don't think I've read one post that has the Cards covering.  For almost that reason alone, I'm laying 3 sheets on Arizona tonight.  Thanks for your insight and BOL to all.
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