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    Why was Trump deplatformed from social media?

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    I_Need_A_Detox
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2022 - 6:57 AM ET #1

    Can anyone present a decent answer to this question? Obviously you need to use exact quotes when presenting your argument. 

    I believe the real reason he was deplatformed is because he would have been tweeting tremendous tweets at Joe Biden and the Democrats for 4 years. And his tweets would be so true and brutal that it honestly could become a national security issue. I think intelligence agencies met with Twitter, Facebook etc and they all came to the conclusion that it would be best to silence him. 

    Please use exact quotes. It’s very easy for everyone to find exactly what was said on Jan 6. 

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    Can anyone present a decent answer to this question? Obviously you need to use exact quotes when presenting your argument. 

    I believe the real reason he was deplatformed is because he would have been tweeting tremendous tweets at Joe Biden and the Democrats for 4 years. And his tweets would be so true and brutal that it honestly could become a national security issue. I think intelligence agencies met with Twitter, Facebook etc and they all came to the conclusion that it would be best to silence him. 

    Please use exact quotes. It’s very easy for everyone to find exactly what was said on Jan 6. 

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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2022 - 7:14 AM ET #2

    Deplatforming the leader of a political party is about as anti-democracy as you can get. 

    World leaders like German Chancellor Angela Merkel, various French ministers, and Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador all denounced the banning of Trump. 

    Russian dissident Aleksei Navalny wrote: “This precedent will be exploited by the enemies of freedom of speech around the world. In Russia as well. Every time when they need to silence someone, they will say: ‘This is just common practice, even Trump got blocked on Twitter.’”

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    Deplatforming the leader of a political party is about as anti-democracy as you can get. 

    World leaders like German Chancellor Angela Merkel, various French ministers, and Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador all denounced the banning of Trump. 

    Russian dissident Aleksei Navalny wrote: “This precedent will be exploited by the enemies of freedom of speech around the world. In Russia as well. Every time when they need to silence someone, they will say: ‘This is just common practice, even Trump got blocked on Twitter.’”

     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2022 - 7:18 AM ET #3

    Elon Musk Tweet from 3:30AM EST 

    “Free speech is essential to a functioning democracy.

    Do you believe Twitter rigorously adheres to this principle?” 

    600,000 votes 

    66% NO, 34% YES 

    What do you think and why? 

    an_popcorn

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    Elon Musk Tweet from 3:30AM EST 

    “Free speech is essential to a functioning democracy.

    Do you believe Twitter rigorously adheres to this principle?” 

    600,000 votes 

    66% NO, 34% YES 

    What do you think and why? 

    an_popcorn

     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2022 - 8:49 AM ET #4

    Do you get paid in Canadian dollars when you post? Monthly paycheck/DD or quarterly? 

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    Do you get paid in Canadian dollars when you post? Monthly paycheck/DD or quarterly? 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2022 - 10:41 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Elon Musk Tweet from 3:30AM EST  “Free speech is essential to a functioning democracy. Do you believe Twitter rigorously adheres to this principle?”  600,000 votes  66% NO, 34% YES  What do you think and why?

    It is both amazing and sad that 34% said YES. 

    Banning free speech is the essence of "THE NEW WORLD ORDER". 

    "Our role is not to be bound by the First Amendment, but our role is to serve a healthy public conversation and our moves are reflective of things that we believe lead to a healthier public conversation," Agrawal said in 2020.

    The neon God!

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Elon Musk Tweet from 3:30AM EST  “Free speech is essential to a functioning democracy. Do you believe Twitter rigorously adheres to this principle?”  600,000 votes  66% NO, 34% YES  What do you think and why?

    It is both amazing and sad that 34% said YES. 

    Banning free speech is the essence of "THE NEW WORLD ORDER". 

    "Our role is not to be bound by the First Amendment, but our role is to serve a healthy public conversation and our moves are reflective of things that we believe lead to a healthier public conversation," Agrawal said in 2020.

    The neon God!

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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2022 - 11:23 AM ET #6

    Simply, Trump has been banned from social media for repeatedly violating their policies which is long overdue.  But censoring Trump isn't about free speech.  First amendment is intended to constrain government power.  So when private companies censor speech, they aren't subject to constitutional constraint.  Courts have consistently rejected free speech arguments in favor of protecting the rights of social media companies to operate websites however they want.

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    Simply, Trump has been banned from social media for repeatedly violating their policies which is long overdue.  But censoring Trump isn't about free speech.  First amendment is intended to constrain government power.  So when private companies censor speech, they aren't subject to constitutional constraint.  Courts have consistently rejected free speech arguments in favor of protecting the rights of social media companies to operate websites however they want.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2022 - 11:30 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Trump has been banned from social media for repeatedly violating their policies which is long overdue.

    Since you claim it happened “repeatedly”, surely you can list a few examples of Trump violating their policies … right? 

    Or are you going to pretend that you didn’t see this and hide as usual 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Trump has been banned from social media for repeatedly violating their policies which is long overdue.

    Since you claim it happened “repeatedly”, surely you can list a few examples of Trump violating their policies … right? 

    Or are you going to pretend that you didn’t see this and hide as usual 

     

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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2022 - 11:32 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Elon Musk Tweet from 3:30AM EST  “Free speech is essential to a functioning democracy. Do you believe Twitter rigorously adheres to this principle?”  600,000 votes  66% NO, 34% YES  What do you think and why?

    1,180,000 votes 

    NO 69% 

    YES 31% 

     

    an_popcorn

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Elon Musk Tweet from 3:30AM EST  “Free speech is essential to a functioning democracy. Do you believe Twitter rigorously adheres to this principle?”  600,000 votes  66% NO, 34% YES  What do you think and why?

    1,180,000 votes 

    NO 69% 

    YES 31% 

     

    an_popcorn

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2022 - 8:59 AM ET #9

    Nobody can explain why Trump was banned from social media? 

    an_popcorn

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    Nobody can explain why Trump was banned from social media? 

    an_popcorn

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2022 - 10:31 AM ET #10

    According to Twitter these two tweets violated their "Glorification of Violence" policy;

    “The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!”

     

    "To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th.”

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    According to Twitter these two tweets violated their "Glorification of Violence" policy;

    “The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!”

     

    "To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th.”

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2022 - 10:36 AM ET #11

    Hopefully Elon Musk fixes twitter 

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    Hopefully Elon Musk fixes twitter 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2022 - 10:39 AM ET #12

    Trump and many others now have been banned from social media because those who control the public narrative control minds. It is why Hitler placed so much value on the propaganda ministry in Germany run by Goebbels. The Nazis could get away with the big lie if they simply repeated it over and over again as there was nobody to contest it in the public square.

    Not only have people on the political right been banned but so too real journalists from the left like Glenn Greenwald and now Chris Hedges...Hedges a few days ago on the Jimmy Dore show stated that the social media platforms are public utilities and so therefore should not be allowed to censor people.

    The counter argument made is that they are private companies and yet they are protected from lawsuits by individuals by the federal government and they can't be sued...they can't be allowed to have their cake and eat it too. If they are private companies then they should be allowed to be sued without governmental protection and those whose rights have been buggered have a right to redress their grievances. 

    Free speech is the cornerstone of any free people and anyone who supports the right of social media companies to interfere with that right constitutes a violation of freedom of speech. The modern day left is very fascistic in this regard IMO. I was a lifelong leftist for decades but now no longer as these modern day tyrants are beneath my contempt. 

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    Trump and many others now have been banned from social media because those who control the public narrative control minds. It is why Hitler placed so much value on the propaganda ministry in Germany run by Goebbels. The Nazis could get away with the big lie if they simply repeated it over and over again as there was nobody to contest it in the public square.

    Not only have people on the political right been banned but so too real journalists from the left like Glenn Greenwald and now Chris Hedges...Hedges a few days ago on the Jimmy Dore show stated that the social media platforms are public utilities and so therefore should not be allowed to censor people.

    The counter argument made is that they are private companies and yet they are protected from lawsuits by individuals by the federal government and they can't be sued...they can't be allowed to have their cake and eat it too. If they are private companies then they should be allowed to be sued without governmental protection and those whose rights have been buggered have a right to redress their grievances. 

    Free speech is the cornerstone of any free people and anyone who supports the right of social media companies to interfere with that right constitutes a violation of freedom of speech. The modern day left is very fascistic in this regard IMO. I was a lifelong leftist for decades but now no longer as these modern day tyrants are beneath my contempt. 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2022 - 1:42 PM ET #13

    is why Hitler placed so much value on the propaganda ministry in Germany run by Goebbels. The Nazis could get away with the big lie if they simply repeated it over and over again as there was nobody to contest it in the public square.

    Exactly what we see today.

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    is why Hitler placed so much value on the propaganda ministry in Germany run by Goebbels. The Nazis could get away with the big lie if they simply repeated it over and over again as there was nobody to contest it in the public square.

    Exactly what we see today.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2022 - 3:56 PM ET #14

    Bonhoeffer , part of the plot to assassinate Hitler, wrote on the facts, that while Hitler demonstrated success in the European theater he was untouchable. 

    When he failed an opportunity existed to remove Hitler from office. The man died in a concentration camp about a month before victory Europe day.

     

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    Bonhoeffer , part of the plot to assassinate Hitler, wrote on the facts, that while Hitler demonstrated success in the European theater he was untouchable. 

    When he failed an opportunity existed to remove Hitler from office. The man died in a concentration camp about a month before victory Europe day.

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2022 - 7:47 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Elon Musk Tweet from 3:30AM EST  “Free speech is essential to a functioning democracy. Do you believe Twitter rigorously adheres to this principle?”  600,000 votes  66% NO, 34% YES  What do you think and why? It is both amazing and sad that 34% said YES.  Banning free speech is the essence of "THE NEW WORLD ORDER".
    This is priceless,now trump and truth social are permanently suspending accounts that talk about the Jan 6th committee hearings,so much for their whining and b*tching about companies that limit free speech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Elon Musk Tweet from 3:30AM EST  “Free speech is essential to a functioning democracy. Do you believe Twitter rigorously adheres to this principle?”  600,000 votes  66% NO, 34% YES  What do you think and why? It is both amazing and sad that 34% said YES.  Banning free speech is the essence of "THE NEW WORLD ORDER".
    This is priceless,now trump and truth social are permanently suspending accounts that talk about the Jan 6th committee hearings,so much for their whining and b*tching about companies that limit free speech.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2022 - 9:59 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Elon Musk Tweet from 3:30AM EST  “Free speech is essential to a functioning democracy. Do you believe Twitter rigorously adheres to this principle?”  600,000 votes  66% NO, 34% YES  What do you think and why? It is both amazing and sad that 34% said YES.  Banning free speech is the essence of "THE NEW WORLD ORDER".

     

    This is priceless,

    now trump and truth social are permanently suspending accounts that talk about the Jan 6th committee hearings,

    so much for their whining and b*tching about companies that limit free speech.

    priceless !!

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Elon Musk Tweet from 3:30AM EST  “Free speech is essential to a functioning democracy. Do you believe Twitter rigorously adheres to this principle?”  600,000 votes  66% NO, 34% YES  What do you think and why? It is both amazing and sad that 34% said YES.  Banning free speech is the essence of "THE NEW WORLD ORDER".

     

    This is priceless,

    now trump and truth social are permanently suspending accounts that talk about the Jan 6th committee hearings,

    so much for their whining and b*tching about companies that limit free speech.

    priceless !!

     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2022 - 8:32 AM ET #17

    2018 Headline and video of Germany laughing at Trump: 

    “Trump made some outrageous claims about German energy at the UN — and the German delegation’s reaction was priceless

    https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1044740334306058241?s=21&t=EQWHrLrgSFBjDnwp9iiLaQ

    2022 Headline: 

    “The situation is serious”: Germany plans to fire up coal plants as Russia throttles gas supplies 

     

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    2018 Headline and video of Germany laughing at Trump: 

    “Trump made some outrageous claims about German energy at the UN — and the German delegation’s reaction was priceless

    https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1044740334306058241?s=21&t=EQWHrLrgSFBjDnwp9iiLaQ

    2022 Headline: 

    “The situation is serious”: Germany plans to fire up coal plants as Russia throttles gas supplies 

     

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    I_Need_A_Detox
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2022 - 8:36 AM ET #18

    How Germany went “green” in 4 easy steps

    1. Shut down clean nuclear
    2. Move to unreliable wind/solar
    2. Become reliant on Russian natural gas
    3. Fire up dirty coal again

    Trump was right again 

     

    sleep2

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    How Germany went “green” in 4 easy steps

    1. Shut down clean nuclear
    2. Move to unreliable wind/solar
    2. Become reliant on Russian natural gas
    3. Fire up dirty coal again

    Trump was right again 

     

    sleep2

     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2022 - 12:18 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Nobody can explain why Trump was banned from social media?

    third explained. You're asking for exact tweets but he's banned from Twitter so...

    If you want him, or anyone, going to some sketchy 3rd party archive of tweets, that's between you all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Nobody can explain why Trump was banned from social media?

    third explained. You're asking for exact tweets but he's banned from Twitter so...

    If you want him, or anyone, going to some sketchy 3rd party archive of tweets, that's between you all.

     
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    Also, you would be surprised how easy it is to be "deplatformed" from a social media site. I, for one, do not care to comb through archived tweets but I can promise you I have seen tweets and retweets, mostly retweets, that violate terms of service.

    Now that's not me saying I think he should have been banned. Just acknowledging how easy it is to violate terms of service on these sites.

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    Also, you would be surprised how easy it is to be "deplatformed" from a social media site. I, for one, do not care to comb through archived tweets but I can promise you I have seen tweets and retweets, mostly retweets, that violate terms of service.

    Now that's not me saying I think he should have been banned. Just acknowledging how easy it is to violate terms of service on these sites.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2022 - 3:21 PM ET #21

    The news didn’t cover the tweets that got the former President of the US banned from Twitter and Facebook? 

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    The news didn’t cover the tweets that got the former President of the US banned from Twitter and Facebook? 

     
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    Trump has a new product you can buy...

    Trump Whine made with Sour Grapes.

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    Trump has a new product you can buy...

    Trump Whine made with Sour Grapes.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2022 - 11:32 PM ET #23

    @I_Need_A_Detox

     Because he was always right and the sheep hate it

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    @I_Need_A_Detox

     Because he was always right and the sheep hate it

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2022 - 1:24 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The news didn’t cover the tweets that got the former President of the US banned from Twitter and Facebook?

    Wouldn't know. I don't watch anything but the local news.

    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The news didn’t cover the tweets that got the former President of the US banned from Twitter and Facebook?

    Wouldn't know. I don't watch anything but the local news.

     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2022 - 2:06 AM ET #25

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     FRAUD. THAT'S WHY. HE WAS BELOW THE MENDOZA LINE IN LAWSUITS, 0/62, BECAUSE HE HAD NO EVIDENCE OTHER THAN HEARSAY, WHICH ISN'T EVIDENCE. THAT IS ALL. THE FRAUD IS CLEAR AS DAY, WHEN FORCED TO PRESENT EVIDENCE OF HIS OUTRIGHT LIES, HE HAS NONE. CASE CLOSED.

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    @I_Need_A_Detox

     FRAUD. THAT'S WHY. HE WAS BELOW THE MENDOZA LINE IN LAWSUITS, 0/62, BECAUSE HE HAD NO EVIDENCE OTHER THAN HEARSAY, WHICH ISN'T EVIDENCE. THAT IS ALL. THE FRAUD IS CLEAR AS DAY, WHEN FORCED TO PRESENT EVIDENCE OF HIS OUTRIGHT LIES, HE HAS NONE. CASE CLOSED.

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