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    Hugh_Jorgan
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2016 - 3:49 PM ET #26

    Clearly I'm on the right side with my wager on Trump to win ...
    Schmeto's pendulum prediction says so.
    I need no further evidence  
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    Clearly I'm on the right side with my wager on Trump to win ...
    Schmeto's pendulum prediction says so.
    I need no further evidence  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2016 - 4:05 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:


    I suppose in the literal sense I am voting for Trump.
    For all intents and purposes, I am simply voting against Hillary.

    And you are not voting? 
    Tough to decide when all the candidates are white, huh?  


    i thought hugh was just going to shake hands and walk back to his corner at the end of this round but the sly person snuck in an uppercut at the very end. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:


    I suppose in the literal sense I am voting for Trump.
    For all intents and purposes, I am simply voting against Hillary.

    And you are not voting? 
    Tough to decide when all the candidates are white, huh?  


    i thought hugh was just going to shake hands and walk back to his corner at the end of this round but the sly person snuck in an uppercut at the very end. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2016 - 5:53 PM ET #28

    HRC should be in prison 

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    HRC should be in prison 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2016 - 5:56 PM ET #29

    As a true non partisan independent who could careless who wins but this b1tch should have been removed from running.
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    As a true non partisan independent who could careless who wins but this b1tch should have been removed from running.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2016 - 9:32 AM ET #30

    https://nypost.com/2016/10/28/clinton-donor-got-state-department-invite-and-bill-got-17m/

    A day without additional proof of the Clintons corrupt ways is like a day without sunshine.

    Anyone who cares to defend all these Clinton "line-my-own-pockets" deals, feel free to chime in 
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    https://nypost.com/2016/10/28/clinton-donor-got-state-department-invite-and-bill-got-17m/

    A day without additional proof of the Clintons corrupt ways is like a day without sunshine.

    Anyone who cares to defend all these Clinton "line-my-own-pockets" deals, feel free to chime in 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2016 - 9:42 AM ET #31

    https://nypost.com/2016/10/27/bill-and-hillarys-sleazy-road-to-riches/

    The MSM has nothing to say regarding wikileaks.
    The people in this country should be appalled by this ... even moreso than they are by the corrupt Clintons. 

    Anyone who is voting for HRC care to discuss wikileaks?

    Anyone?!?!?!? 

    I didn't think so 
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    https://nypost.com/2016/10/27/bill-and-hillarys-sleazy-road-to-riches/

    The MSM has nothing to say regarding wikileaks.
    The people in this country should be appalled by this ... even moreso than they are by the corrupt Clintons. 

    Anyone who is voting for HRC care to discuss wikileaks?

    Anyone?!?!?!? 

    I didn't think so 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2016 - 10:04 AM ET #32

    HRC is indefensible.

    When I first began trading, I heard of how HRC made her first million on Wall Street trading cattle futures.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/whitewater/stories/wwtr940527.htm

    Take a look at the details on a few of the trades.....access to privileged intel,  trading beyond margin, and deposits made by angel investors. The rules simply did not apply to HRC. 

    Insider trading and money laundering, no doubt about it. IF anyone in this forum even attempted transactions like that we would have the Commodities and Futures Trading Commission investigating us as soon as the funds hit the account.

    She is a hardened criminal, always has been, always will be.

    Never Make A Winner A Loser. Never.
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    HRC is indefensible.

    When I first began trading, I heard of how HRC made her first million on Wall Street trading cattle futures.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/whitewater/stories/wwtr940527.htm

    Take a look at the details on a few of the trades.....access to privileged intel,  trading beyond margin, and deposits made by angel investors. The rules simply did not apply to HRC. 

    Insider trading and money laundering, no doubt about it. IF anyone in this forum even attempted transactions like that we would have the Commodities and Futures Trading Commission investigating us as soon as the funds hit the account.

    She is a hardened criminal, always has been, always will be.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2016 - 10:28 AM ET #33

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/daughter-of-eric-garner-slams-clinton-campaign-over-emails-about-fathers-death/ar-AAjve28?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout

    Here's one black female who won't be voting for Crooked Hillary 
    bigreds daddy
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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/daughter-of-eric-garner-slams-clinton-campaign-over-emails-about-fathers-death/ar-AAjve28?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout

    Here's one black female who won't be voting for Crooked Hillary 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2016 - 12:15 PM ET #34

    If you have the money and power to bribe the IRS --Justice Dept-- AND the FBI to let you lie and steal with impunity-- AND also able to rig elections with no consequence ...Your name is hitlery.

    Trump WILL drain the swamp.

    With an all new administration and new attorney general I see many jail terms for the corruptocrats ....Starting with Ozero himself for sending billions of dollars in cash to the Iran mullahs.

    That is why they are so anxious for Trump to lose and hitlery to win....Jail in their future plans unless hitlery wins.
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    If you have the money and power to bribe the IRS --Justice Dept-- AND the FBI to let you lie and steal with impunity-- AND also able to rig elections with no consequence ...Your name is hitlery.

    Trump WILL drain the swamp.

    With an all new administration and new attorney general I see many jail terms for the corruptocrats ....Starting with Ozero himself for sending billions of dollars in cash to the Iran mullahs.

    That is why they are so anxious for Trump to lose and hitlery to win....Jail in their future plans unless hitlery wins.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2016 - 1:05 PM ET #35

    Maybe the Enquirer will 'Swift Boat' Hillary.
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    Maybe the Enquirer will 'Swift Boat' Hillary.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2016 - 1:29 PM ET #36

    HRC vs. New FBI email investigation = A new race..........Yes, this is of major concern for HRC backers. She dropped to -450 and will continue to drop imo.  What once looked like a sure thing is now a horse race.
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    HRC vs. New FBI email investigation = A new race..........Yes, this is of major concern for HRC backers. She dropped to -450 and will continue to drop imo.  What once looked like a sure thing is now a horse race.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2016 - 1:48 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by Inyourlife16:

    HRC vs. New FBI email investigation = A new race..........Yes, this is of major concern for HRC backers. She dropped to -450 and will continue to drop imo.  What once looked like a sure thing is now a horse race.


    the odds are just merging with the aggregate polls as they tend to do when one gets away from the other.  pinnacle has it at 1.279 which is 78% and 538 has it at 79%/82%.  throw in a few trump voters who don't understand numbers/odds and that might account for the 1-45 discrepancy. (i'm not saying all trump voters are dumb.  in fact, there was value in betting trump when the odds were at -600 or so, but you know who i'm referring to)

    so, it's as over as it's been for a while, which is to say, it's close to being over, but trump still has a small chance.  roughly 20%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inyourlife16:

    HRC vs. New FBI email investigation = A new race..........Yes, this is of major concern for HRC backers. She dropped to -450 and will continue to drop imo.  What once looked like a sure thing is now a horse race.


    the odds are just merging with the aggregate polls as they tend to do when one gets away from the other.  pinnacle has it at 1.279 which is 78% and 538 has it at 79%/82%.  throw in a few trump voters who don't understand numbers/odds and that might account for the 1-45 discrepancy. (i'm not saying all trump voters are dumb.  in fact, there was value in betting trump when the odds were at -600 or so, but you know who i'm referring to)

    so, it's as over as it's been for a while, which is to say, it's close to being over, but trump still has a small chance.  roughly 20%.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2016 - 1:50 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by Inyourlife16:

    HRC vs. New FBI email investigation = A new race..........Yes, this is of major concern for HRC backers. She dropped to -450 and will continue to drop imo.  What once looked like a sure thing is now a horse race.

    It's down to HRC -320 now. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inyourlife16:

    HRC vs. New FBI email investigation = A new race..........Yes, this is of major concern for HRC backers. She dropped to -450 and will continue to drop imo.  What once looked like a sure thing is now a horse race.

    It's down to HRC -320 now. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2016 - 1:50 PM ET #39

    "1-4% discrepancy"


    also, 538 is just one entity that rates and aggregate polls.  others have trump at less than 20%.  i've been using 538 for betting for a while and they have rewarded me so i stick with them.
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    "1-4% discrepancy"


    also, 538 is just one entity that rates and aggregate polls.  others have trump at less than 20%.  i've been using 538 for betting for a while and they have rewarded me so i stick with them.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2016 - 1:52 PM ET #40

    This election regardless of who wins will not go quietly in the night on 8  November.
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    This election regardless of who wins will not go quietly in the night on 8  November.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2016 - 1:52 PM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:


    It's down to HRC -320 now. 


    if you are using the odds as a barometer, which you should be, pinnacle is what you should be watching. 

    1.279 = -358 = 78%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:


    It's down to HRC -320 now. 


    if you are using the odds as a barometer, which you should be, pinnacle is what you should be watching. 

    1.279 = -358 = 78%
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:



    if you are using the odds as a barometer, which you should be, pinnacle is what you should be watching. 

    1.279 = -358 = 78%

    HRC -320, 5dimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:



    if you are using the odds as a barometer, which you should be, pinnacle is what you should be watching. 

    1.279 = -358 = 78%

    HRC -320, 5dimes.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2016 - 2:01 PM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:


    HRC -320, 5dimes.


    5dimes has very low limits.  it's a joke of a site when it comes to these kinds of bets.  you want to be looking at pinnacle to gauge any market, particularly this one. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:


    HRC -320, 5dimes.


    5dimes has very low limits.  it's a joke of a site when it comes to these kinds of bets.  you want to be looking at pinnacle to gauge any market, particularly this one. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2016 - 2:10 PM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by Inyourlife16:

    HRC vs. New FBI email investigation = A new race..........Yes, this is of major concern for HRC backers. She dropped to -450 and will continue to drop imo.  What once looked like a sure thing is now a horse race.

    Unfortunately, I will have to disagree.
    The FBI is trying to save face, that is all this is.

    Wikileaks has proven that the FBI is in cahoots with the Clintons, so now they are offering a minor face-lift, even though the entire body needs a tuck, implants, liposuction, not to mention an enema 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inyourlife16:

    HRC vs. New FBI email investigation = A new race..........Yes, this is of major concern for HRC backers. She dropped to -450 and will continue to drop imo.  What once looked like a sure thing is now a horse race.

    Unfortunately, I will have to disagree.
    The FBI is trying to save face, that is all this is.

    Wikileaks has proven that the FBI is in cahoots with the Clintons, so now they are offering a minor face-lift, even though the entire body needs a tuck, implants, liposuction, not to mention an enema 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2016 - 2:11 PM ET #45

    BOVADA HAS PULLED THE ELECTION FROM THE BOARD
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    BOVADA HAS PULLED THE ELECTION FROM THE BOARD
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:



    5dimes has very low limits.  it's a joke of a site when it comes to these kinds of bets.  you want to be looking at pinnacle to gauge any market, particularly this one. 

    Pinny does not take clients from the States. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:



    5dimes has very low limits.  it's a joke of a site when it comes to these kinds of bets.  you want to be looking at pinnacle to gauge any market, particularly this one. 

    Pinny does not take clients from the States. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2016 - 2:18 PM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:



    the odds are just merging with the aggregate polls as they tend to do when one gets away from the other.  pinnacle has it at 1.279 which is 78% and 538 has it at 79%/82%.  throw in a few trump voters who don't understand numbers/odds and that might account for the 1-45 discrepancy. (i'm not saying all trump voters are dumb.  in fact, there was value in betting trump when the odds were at -600 or so, but you know who i'm referring to)

    so, it's as over as it's been for a while, which is to say, it's close to being over, but trump still has a small chance.  roughly 20%.

    I will start by saying that I still believe that HRC wins this election, although with attractive enough odds I did bet on Trump.

    With that said, what the polls and everyone else cannot guesstimate is just how many people out there will vote for Trump ... quietly.

    Within the small, insignificant confines of this very forum, Trump supporters have been called every name in the book, and endlessly mocked. This is happening in every corner of this country, and most definitely it is happening from the media. These attacks have not turned the Trump supporters away, they have simply made many of them ... quiet. 

    Remember, the polls gave trump no chance to get the GOP nod, yet he won by a historical amount of votes.

    There are Trump supporters out there ... quietly waiting for Nov 8th.  
    No one knows how many, but do not assume that this thing is over 
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:



    the odds are just merging with the aggregate polls as they tend to do when one gets away from the other.  pinnacle has it at 1.279 which is 78% and 538 has it at 79%/82%.  throw in a few trump voters who don't understand numbers/odds and that might account for the 1-45 discrepancy. (i'm not saying all trump voters are dumb.  in fact, there was value in betting trump when the odds were at -600 or so, but you know who i'm referring to)

    so, it's as over as it's been for a while, which is to say, it's close to being over, but trump still has a small chance.  roughly 20%.

    I will start by saying that I still believe that HRC wins this election, although with attractive enough odds I did bet on Trump.

    With that said, what the polls and everyone else cannot guesstimate is just how many people out there will vote for Trump ... quietly.

    Within the small, insignificant confines of this very forum, Trump supporters have been called every name in the book, and endlessly mocked. This is happening in every corner of this country, and most definitely it is happening from the media. These attacks have not turned the Trump supporters away, they have simply made many of them ... quiet. 

    Remember, the polls gave trump no chance to get the GOP nod, yet he won by a historical amount of votes.

    There are Trump supporters out there ... quietly waiting for Nov 8th.  
    No one knows how many, but do not assume that this thing is over 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2016 - 2:20 PM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:


    Pinny does not take clients from the States. 


    i know, but it is by far the best market.  i'm not saying you should bet there.  bet wherever you can that gives you the best line.  i'm saying if you are trying to determine the best market, i.e. the most accurate determination of a candidate's or a team's chances at any given moment, you go to pinnacle.  you don't go to 5dimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:


    Pinny does not take clients from the States. 


    i know, but it is by far the best market.  i'm not saying you should bet there.  bet wherever you can that gives you the best line.  i'm saying if you are trying to determine the best market, i.e. the most accurate determination of a candidate's or a team's chances at any given moment, you go to pinnacle.  you don't go to 5dimes.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2016 - 2:25 PM ET #49

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:


    I will start by saying that I still believe that HRC wins this election, although with attractive enough odds I did bet on Trump.

    With that said, what the polls and everyone else cannot guesstimate is just how many people out there will vote for Trump ... quietly.

    Within the small, insignificant confines of this very forum, Trump supporters have been called every name in the book, and endlessly mocked. This is happening in every corner of this country, and most definitely it is happening from the media. These attacks have not turned the Trump supporters away, they have simply made many of them ... quiet. 

    Remember, the polls gave trump no chance to get the GOP nod, yet he won by a historical amount of votes.

    There are Trump supporters out there ... quietly waiting for Nov 8th.  
    No one knows how many, but do not assume that this thing is over 


    didn't you get trump at +600?  if so, that's value.  a +600 bet should win 14 times out of 100 and right now, trump is winning about 20 times out of 100. 

    and there may be people who will bet trump quietly who aren't reflected in the polls.  who knows.   i don't need to tell you this but all the odds can do is tell you the chances of an event occurring at that point in time based on the market, which consists of all of the available information in the marketplace (but not necessarily the quantity of clandestine trump supporters). and the best of those markets is pinnacle. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:


    I will start by saying that I still believe that HRC wins this election, although with attractive enough odds I did bet on Trump.

    With that said, what the polls and everyone else cannot guesstimate is just how many people out there will vote for Trump ... quietly.

    Within the small, insignificant confines of this very forum, Trump supporters have been called every name in the book, and endlessly mocked. This is happening in every corner of this country, and most definitely it is happening from the media. These attacks have not turned the Trump supporters away, they have simply made many of them ... quiet. 

    Remember, the polls gave trump no chance to get the GOP nod, yet he won by a historical amount of votes.

    There are Trump supporters out there ... quietly waiting for Nov 8th.  
    No one knows how many, but do not assume that this thing is over 


    didn't you get trump at +600?  if so, that's value.  a +600 bet should win 14 times out of 100 and right now, trump is winning about 20 times out of 100. 

    and there may be people who will bet trump quietly who aren't reflected in the polls.  who knows.   i don't need to tell you this but all the odds can do is tell you the chances of an event occurring at that point in time based on the market, which consists of all of the available information in the marketplace (but not necessarily the quantity of clandestine trump supporters). and the best of those markets is pinnacle. 
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2016 - 2:34 PM ET #50

    Got Trump at +500.

    Off the top of my head I would give Trump a 40% chance of winning.
    The same polls that have HRC winning big also had Trump losing big in the primaries. 
    To me, this is significant because it shows the polls have not grasped the Trump phenomenon 
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    Got Trump at +500.

    Off the top of my head I would give Trump a 40% chance of winning.
    The same polls that have HRC winning big also had Trump losing big in the primaries. 
    To me, this is significant because it shows the polls have not grasped the Trump phenomenon 
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