Why does Trump oppose full disclosure of the Epstein files?

It's complicated, but most of it is rooted in he represents republicans against Democrats.

@cd329

Maybe some clarification can soothe the ruffled feathers.

I will say it again if you are a trump supporter and back him over this epstein stuff,

What do you mean by epstein stuff?

1) that he knew him socially?  Not really disputed

2) that he actively engaged with minors? - Not really proven.

3) that his justice department and attorney general appear to be pulling shenanigans?  Yes they are and it's infuriating.  But before condemnation, I'd like to know why.

4) that there's more to epstein's death? Same as above 

So when you say support over epstein stuff, asking what you mean.

OK, let's talk about real truth then.  Not some crazy thoughts that's been cooked up in TDS heads

Bill Clinton was on Epstein planes for at least 17 flights in 2002-03 after he left office in 2001.  funny how no one is posting on this guy, slick Willy.

Trump flew 8 times between 93-97, then back in 2024 Trumps plane had mechanical problems and booked the closest available jet and it just happened to be Epstein's Lolita Express

Back to Clinton, he flew on Epstein's jet to Siberia, Morocco, China and Armenia to name a few.  Flight logs indicate that Kevin Spacey took a flight from the U.S. Virgin Islands to PBIA on Sept. 15, 2002, with Epstein and Clinton.   Clinton's aide Doug Bands was on most of the flights that Clinton was.

Two trips with Clinton had no notes that indicated U.S. Secret Service agents were aboard.

I am not backing the scum Epstein, or either of the POTUS.  how about paint the big picture and not the one that is envisioned in the hate Trump heads 

and really after all this 'news' is starting to trickle out about how corrupt the OB administration was(even though we all knew it) and then reading the testimony of Eva Dubin who was his girlfriend for over 10 years.....in the 90s when Trump flew on his planes btw...she was completely comfortable with Jeff around her under 18 y/o daughters

But then again you never know, people are really good about hiding their demons.  for these accusations tho, if it was a slam dunk easy case it would've been known by now

No one is able to dodge this type of crime in this day and age.  Wrong place wrong time fits even if the guys is a complete jackass

No actual news has come out about Obama at this point. All smoke and mirrors thus far.

@soup-can

Thanks for the info.

Absent evidence if you're asking me who im more inclined to believe engaged with minors it'd be Clinton over Trump....and definitely Spacey.

#stormy

Trump spiritual adviser Robert Morris charged with 5 counts of lewd or indecent acts with a Child, his Buddy Epstein and the Women in jail that he wishes well. Is this all he knows is PEDOPHILE'S? Criminals help criminals do crimes, nature of the life style, the Orange Felon is so involved with these people and he has pardoned killers and traitors to America, so hope he pays before he dies. Though this was last year it is now trending along with Epstein and his Girlfriend.

                FUCK DONALD TRUMP

Epstein birthday card from Trump is another left wing conspiracy

As I said in another thread, if Trump engaged with minors, we should know. However, the left wants us to believe Trump is some all out sexual deviant that both has sex with underage women, and rapes haggard old broads in dressing rooms. These type of people do exist but it would be pretty hard to be that guy, in the public eye for 40 years, and not anyone find out. The only sexual deviancy we know of Trump is that he's a cheater. Many men are cheaters. Doesn't make them pedophiles or rapist. He cheated with on Ivana with Marla Maples, then married her and had a kid. Marla Maples cheated on him. He got with Melania. He cheated on her with Stormy. All consenting adults. If he was banging minors on Epstein island, even prior to him being President, chances are it would've come out. There is clearly more to this story ao let's not act like Trump is killing it simply for self preservation when it didn't come out under 4 years of Biden either.

Again, I support full disclosure. If Trump behaved inappropriate, we should know.

@wallstreetcappers

 There’s more action than a John Wick episode ! ….I completely forgot about the birthday card! 

@StumpTownStu

If the left want you to know about this they would have done it years ago…Politician is a bitter word in my vocabulary ! Sooner or later they will disappoint you at best!

They're all horrible, left and right. And they're all in it together. I believe out entire two-party system is political theatre. This country is a corporate oligarchy and both sides serve the same masters.

@StumpTownStu

I ask myself from Trump was it more about minors or money?  Unless of course Epstein was a pauper.

#88

 However at this point, if it's shown that Trump had nothing to with the Island action, some libs will say that the files were changed & he's guilty......you know that will happen.

 BTW.....whatever happened to Schiff's evidence that will prove Trump colluded with the Russians to fix the 2016 election?

Hard to take care of the people when those with the checkbook are only concerned with their own net worth or cover ups.

@THEMUGG

"BTW.....whatever happened to Schiff's evidence that will prove Trump colluded with the Russians to fix the 2016 election? an_popcorn"

Don't you know, Trump made up a mortgage fraud case to keep him quiet so he wont supply the evidence.

Adam is rather quiet at the moment though.

According to Daily beast, former Obama official Norm Ebsen has filed a freedom of information request demanding release of Epstein files. House democrats seek copy of birthday book from Epstein estate. Podcaster Joe Rogan accuses Trump administration of trying to gaslight everyone.

Definitely remains easier to throw blanket assertions over a group of voters and upon pushback claim twisting of words than it would be to explain oneself.

At this point, I think it's clear Trump had nothing to do with the island. The liberals on this site think the conservatives have some blind allegiance to Trump. They don't realize that most of us are pretty right-center. If Trump is guilty, we should know, and he should be punished. The time line just doesn't fit. Trump and Epstein were friends in the 80s and 90s. They had a falling out in 2004. That is when Epstein actions with underage girls really kicked off. They were out of each other's lives when the island trips started. That's why he's not mentioned in the flight logs, nor by any of the victims.

Can't wait for those files to drop and implicate the people we've always known. Clinton. Dershowitz. It'll say Trump was his friend in the 80s and 90s and never visited his island. The public will see it's nothing and the ordeal will guarantee a JD victory in 2028.

The Democrats keep calling the same plays and yet are clueless why they are losing. Some within the partyvare starting to wise up though.

@StumpTownStu

 #95 is very well said.  Absent a definition (or evidence) of "Epstein stuff" I maintain my level of Trump suppport based on things like the economy, trade deals, peace, etc is warranted.

Also a leading study published by peers of people suggests that people may choke on popcorn and should use an abundance of caution when stuffing their faces.

@StumpTownStu

 I get the feeling this is the libs' last hope for a big Trump smear. They're using it to deflect from the Clinton/Obama russia scandal, & accusing the right of vice-versa. The difference is the libs are exerting all their energy towards this.......they're not doing anything else but making cringe vids, bashing Trump, & hoping he gets implicated in the Epstein deal.

To be honest, I don't think the Clinton/Obama thing has any substance either. I think it's all a distraction. All of this is theatre. It's to distract us from things like, "Is the Big Beautiful Bill actually in the interest of most Americans or not?" Or, "How much are we really spending for Israel to bomb the dog piss out of Palestine? "How much are we still spending in Ukraine?" 'What are we actually doing about China literally kicking the dog piss out of us in a silent war?" I mean, are we getting licks in there too and we just don't know about it? Cuz they're whooping our ass. Haven't been all the way up to Seattle in a few years but I imagine the fent zombies are insane. The Chinese are masters of unconvential warfare. It's more than cyber espionage/warfare and technology theft.

We are still America, and we are still chugging along just fine. All i'm saying is there are plenty of real questions. Common folk love a scandal though. It's why the Greek tragedies were popular. Why Shakespeare, Opera, modern soaps, and hour long dramas are popular.