Sure would be nice to actually see posters on this forum have as much passion for the people of THE USA and what they are going thru in their lives daily with this criminal con artist running it, instead of the passion they have for the people of other countries
He *PROMISED*on his word of republican-honor no new wars/regime changes!
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Quote Originally Posted by cd329:
Sure would be nice to actually see posters on this forum have as much passion for the people of THE USA and what they are going thru in their lives daily with this criminal con artist running it, instead of the passion they have for the people of other countries
He *PROMISED*on his word of republican-honor no new wars/regime changes!
Quote Originally Posted by cd329: Sure would be nice to actually see posters on this forum have as much passion for the people of THE USA and what they are going thru in their lives daily with this criminal con artist running it, instead of the passion they have for the people of other countries He *PROMISED* on his word of republican-honor no new wars/regime changes!
That he did
Multiple times
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by cd329: Sure would be nice to actually see posters on this forum have as much passion for the people of THE USA and what they are going thru in their lives daily with this criminal con artist running it, instead of the passion they have for the people of other countries He *PROMISED* on his word of republican-honor no new wars/regime changes!
He *PROMISED* on his word of republican-honor no new wars/regime changes!
Podcaster Rogan criticizes Trump betrayal by starting a war that threatens world oil supply. Illegal and unnecessary Iran war is so insane based on what he ran on in election. It does not make any sense unless Trump is working for Israel instead of America first. Previously, Rogan criticized Trump ICE raids, Epstein files and attack on Kimmel.
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
He *PROMISED* on his word of republican-honor no new wars/regime changes!
Podcaster Rogan criticizes Trump betrayal by starting a war that threatens world oil supply. Illegal and unnecessary Iran war is so insane based on what he ran on in election. It does not make any sense unless Trump is working for Israel instead of America first. Previously, Rogan criticized Trump ICE raids, Epstein files and attack on Kimmel.
I can't believe Trump actually told the Iranian regime to massacre 35,000 of it's own people in a month for peacefully protesting just so he could start a war with them
He did the same thing with Russia when he told them to attack Ukraine so Biden would have to supply humanitarian aide, money and weapons to them
Unbelieveable
COVERS allows u to tell someone they are sexually frustrated so long as ur hands are clean
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I can't believe Trump actually told the Iranian regime to massacre 35,000 of it's own people in a month for peacefully protesting just so he could start a war with them
He did the same thing with Russia when he told them to attack Ukraine so Biden would have to supply humanitarian aide, money and weapons to them
Just curious and I ask this seeking an answer if you can give one- You have multiple times referenced 35,000 Iranian citizens massacre and position this as validation for why this started. Is your contention that the US should start wars with countries that kill their own citizens and do so without the consent of congress? If this IS your contention then why is Israel in the mix and why does Trump need to decide WITH Israel for when this is over? If it is about helping the citizens who have died I can promise you 100% that you are NOT helping them by bringing in the enemy and weakening their country, their currency and bombing a childrens hospital.
So for the record you are sticking with the alleged loss of lives as the driver for this war and not what Trump actually stated as to the reason? Trump does not care about the loss of life and if he did then why bomb a hospital and why bring in Israel to bomb cities and people living there?
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@ABooksNightmare
Just curious and I ask this seeking an answer if you can give one- You have multiple times referenced 35,000 Iranian citizens massacre and position this as validation for why this started. Is your contention that the US should start wars with countries that kill their own citizens and do so without the consent of congress? If this IS your contention then why is Israel in the mix and why does Trump need to decide WITH Israel for when this is over? If it is about helping the citizens who have died I can promise you 100% that you are NOT helping them by bringing in the enemy and weakening their country, their currency and bombing a childrens hospital.
So for the record you are sticking with the alleged loss of lives as the driver for this war and not what Trump actually stated as to the reason? Trump does not care about the loss of life and if he did then why bomb a hospital and why bring in Israel to bomb cities and people living there?
So, you are saying Trump ignored the fact that 35,000 citizens were massacred?
If you are, that is the problem. He absolutely mentioned this as one of the reasons for doing what he did. You seem to gloss over that fact and therefore makes you derive at that conclusion. You simply cannot do that. That is very real, as was mentioned along with the nuclear weapons and what he believed to be problematic for the US and the countries of the region...So, yes, this is a valid reason to intervene in an important area of the world.....is it the only driver as you contest, no, that is quite clear, but it was a motivational reason along with the other areas....even if Trump is full of shit about them having the nuclear capability, the world is a much better place without the regime...this is similar to the Saddam Hussein in Iraq...regardless of whether WMD's were there, the world and country are better that he was eliminated...evil people that kill their own citizens for no reason at all should not exist...
Your hate and logic for why Israel exists blinds you from the reality of what is happening and been happening in Iran....As soon as you get past the whole land was gifted and is not there's and realize they are an ally to the US and have similar government systems in place like the US, then maybe it can be seen with a different lens....
COVERS allows u to tell someone they are sexually frustrated so long as ur hands are clean
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So, you are saying Trump ignored the fact that 35,000 citizens were massacred?
If you are, that is the problem. He absolutely mentioned this as one of the reasons for doing what he did. You seem to gloss over that fact and therefore makes you derive at that conclusion. You simply cannot do that. That is very real, as was mentioned along with the nuclear weapons and what he believed to be problematic for the US and the countries of the region...So, yes, this is a valid reason to intervene in an important area of the world.....is it the only driver as you contest, no, that is quite clear, but it was a motivational reason along with the other areas....even if Trump is full of shit about them having the nuclear capability, the world is a much better place without the regime...this is similar to the Saddam Hussein in Iraq...regardless of whether WMD's were there, the world and country are better that he was eliminated...evil people that kill their own citizens for no reason at all should not exist...
Your hate and logic for why Israel exists blinds you from the reality of what is happening and been happening in Iran....As soon as you get past the whole land was gifted and is not there's and realize they are an ally to the US and have similar government systems in place like the US, then maybe it can be seen with a different lens....
The point you're making is spot on, as usual ....and I do agree with 99% of your post, as it follows logic and known facts...
But unless something has happened that I haven't heard/read about in the past 48 hrs, I believe you are incorrect that our commander-in-chief (a known evil-sex-offender/fascist/convicted FELON/racist-asshole) oversaw the bombing of a children's hospital.
Such a deed would put our racist-asshole-pres up there in the company of the most evil/VILE/wretched men in global history! He would then be worthy of all criticism and condemnation which even many MAGAs (at least those who claim to be Christian) would condemn and even consider a debate for IMPEACHMENT!
Bombing a children's hospital is likely a redline for many MAGAs. It would be heinous and probably a war crime -- that's IF the US was at war -- which according to republicans and the Department of WAR, but contrary to the rest of the world, we are told we are not (even though we are)
My understanding is our commander-in-chief (ie, ultimately responsible for everything the military does!!) bombed a children's elementary school-filled with an estimated 150+ little kids and a dozen or so teachers - now all dead because ofthe war trump started. trump is trying to cover up "successfully obliterating" that school by claiming Iran deliberately did it themselves by using an American tomahawk missile (which they don't have and never did) which they supposedly fired at or near the same time the US bombed 3 other targets in extremely close proximity.
But to MAGAs,
if our racist-asshole-Commander-in-Chief is responsible for bombing a school filled with children, killing them all plus school teachers, then lies to cover it up - well that's OK! .....but if he had bombed a children's hospital instead, that might be a redline even for them....................maybe.
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@wallstreetcappers
The point you're making is spot on, as usual ....and I do agree with 99% of your post, as it follows logic and known facts...
But unless something has happened that I haven't heard/read about in the past 48 hrs, I believe you are incorrect that our commander-in-chief (a known evil-sex-offender/fascist/convicted FELON/racist-asshole) oversaw the bombing of a children's hospital.
Such a deed would put our racist-asshole-pres up there in the company of the most evil/VILE/wretched men in global history! He would then be worthy of all criticism and condemnation which even many MAGAs (at least those who claim to be Christian) would condemn and even consider a debate for IMPEACHMENT!
Bombing a children's hospital is likely a redline for many MAGAs. It would be heinous and probably a war crime -- that's IF the US was at war -- which according to republicans and the Department of WAR, but contrary to the rest of the world, we are told we are not (even though we are)
My understanding is our commander-in-chief (ie, ultimately responsible for everything the military does!!) bombed a children's elementary school-filled with an estimated 150+ little kids and a dozen or so teachers - now all dead because ofthe war trump started. trump is trying to cover up "successfully obliterating" that school by claiming Iran deliberately did it themselves by using an American tomahawk missile (which they don't have and never did) which they supposedly fired at or near the same time the US bombed 3 other targets in extremely close proximity.
But to MAGAs,
if our racist-asshole-Commander-in-Chief is responsible for bombing a school filled with children, killing them all plus school teachers, then lies to cover it up - well that's OK! .....but if he had bombed a children's hospital instead, that might be a redline even for them....................maybe.
You are sticking with that narrative and that is your right, I cant make you see what is there it has to be that you see it and in this case you do not.
Why do you have to lead with the hate stuff, how do you know I hate anything? I am against the zionist Israel that is Netty, I am not against Israel or the citizens there and many friends I have here who are from there. I am against forwarding the agenda at the cost to the US the loss of ANY life due to the war mongering Netty has been pulling for two years, you cannot deny this or shade it. If Trump is needing approval and quorum with Netty then this is NOT about loss of life due to abuses by the leadership, you do not go to save your neighbor from harm and bring their convicted ex-boyfriend who has a restraining order against him for company. There is zero good which can come from this war because it is not for any good reason and using bombs and weapons to HELP people makes zero sense.
If your narrative had an ounce of validity they would have done it covertly and assisted a faction in Iran to kill the leader, THAT is helping people by not killing MORE people in the process of allegedly saving them.
Trump cares zero about anyone but himself and his money I see zero compassion or care in his being.
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@ABooksNightmare
You are sticking with that narrative and that is your right, I cant make you see what is there it has to be that you see it and in this case you do not.
Why do you have to lead with the hate stuff, how do you know I hate anything? I am against the zionist Israel that is Netty, I am not against Israel or the citizens there and many friends I have here who are from there. I am against forwarding the agenda at the cost to the US the loss of ANY life due to the war mongering Netty has been pulling for two years, you cannot deny this or shade it. If Trump is needing approval and quorum with Netty then this is NOT about loss of life due to abuses by the leadership, you do not go to save your neighbor from harm and bring their convicted ex-boyfriend who has a restraining order against him for company. There is zero good which can come from this war because it is not for any good reason and using bombs and weapons to HELP people makes zero sense.
If your narrative had an ounce of validity they would have done it covertly and assisted a faction in Iran to kill the leader, THAT is helping people by not killing MORE people in the process of allegedly saving them.
Trump cares zero about anyone but himself and his money I see zero compassion or care in his being.
You guys are Israel’s bitch - end of story ! There isn’t any hidden or bigger cause for this - if Israel ask you to jump - you jump ! To be fair to Trump it has been like that for years - the difference is he PROMISED he wouldn’t be like that
Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
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You guys are Israel’s bitch - end of story ! There isn’t any hidden or bigger cause for this - if Israel ask you to jump - you jump ! To be fair to Trump it has been like that for years - the difference is he PROMISED he wouldn’t be like that
The Pentagon and National Security Council [under trump direction] significantly underestimated Iran’s willingness to close the Strait of Hormuz in response to US military strikes while planning the ongoing operation, according to multiple sources familiar with the matter.
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The Pentagon and National Security Council [under trump direction] significantly underestimated Iran’s willingness to close the Strait of Hormuz in response to US military strikes while planning the ongoing operation, according to multiple sources familiar with the matter.
The Pentagon and National Security Council [under trump direction] significantly underestimated Iran’s willingness to close the Strait of Hormuz in response to US military strikes while planning the ongoing operation, according to multiple sources familiar with the matter.
"sure " they did , lmao
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
The Pentagon and National Security Council [under trump direction] significantly underestimated Iran’s willingness to close the Strait of Hormuz in response to US military strikes while planning the ongoing operation, according to multiple sources familiar with the matter.
@ABooksNightmare You are sticking with that narrative and that is your right, I cant make you see what is there it has to be that you see it and in this case you do not. Why do you have to lead with the hate stuff, how do you know I hate anything? I am against the zionist Israel that is Netty, I am not against Israel or the citizens there and many friends I have here who are from there. I am against forwarding the agenda at the cost to the US the loss of ANY life due to the war mongering Netty has been pulling for two years, you cannot deny this or shade it. If Trump is needing approval and quorum with Netty then this is NOT about loss of life due to abuses by the leadership, you do not go to save your neighbor from harm and bring their convicted ex-boyfriend who has a restraining order against him for company. There is zero good which can come from this war because it is not for any good reason and using bombs and weapons to HELP people makes zero sense. If your narrative had an ounce of validity they would have done it covertly and assisted a faction in Iran to kill the leader, THAT is helping people by not killing MORE people in the process of allegedly saving them. Trump cares zero about anyone but himself and his money I see zero compassion or care in his being.
@wallstreetcappers
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@ABooksNightmare You are sticking with that narrative and that is your right, I cant make you see what is there it has to be that you see it and in this case you do not. Why do you have to lead with the hate stuff, how do you know I hate anything? I am against the zionist Israel that is Netty, I am not against Israel or the citizens there and many friends I have here who are from there. I am against forwarding the agenda at the cost to the US the loss of ANY life due to the war mongering Netty has been pulling for two years, you cannot deny this or shade it. If Trump is needing approval and quorum with Netty then this is NOT about loss of life due to abuses by the leadership, you do not go to save your neighbor from harm and bring their convicted ex-boyfriend who has a restraining order against him for company. There is zero good which can come from this war because it is not for any good reason and using bombs and weapons to HELP people makes zero sense. If your narrative had an ounce of validity they would have done it covertly and assisted a faction in Iran to kill the leader, THAT is helping people by not killing MORE people in the process of allegedly saving them. Trump cares zero about anyone but himself and his money I see zero compassion or care in his being.
The Pentagon and National Security Council [under trump direction] significantly underestimated Iran’s willingness to close the Strait of Hormuz in response to US military strikes while planning the ongoing operation, according to multiple sources familiar with the matter.
@fubah2
proven now
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
The Pentagon and National Security Council [under trump direction] significantly underestimated Iran’s willingness to close the Strait of Hormuz in response to US military strikes while planning the ongoing operation, according to multiple sources familiar with the matter.
March 17: Irish Prime Minister Sits in Awkward Silence as Trump Refers to Female President of Ireland as a Man
Irish Prime Minister Micheal Martin sat awkwardly in silence during a joint-press conference with President Donald Trump on Tuesday after Trump mistakenly referred to female Irish President Catherine Connolly as a man.
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Trump Dementia or just Stupidity?
March 17: Irish Prime Minister Sits in Awkward Silence as Trump Refers to Female President of Ireland as a Man
Irish Prime Minister Micheal Martin sat awkwardly in silence during a joint-press conference with President Donald Trump on Tuesday after Trump mistakenly referred to female Irish President Catherine Connolly as a man.
- @fubah, it’s dementia by a mile. Dude brags about taking the MOCA test. They only give that test to people with cognitive deficits. Cognitive deficits usually require lengthy treatment before they get better. Trump ain’t getting any mental health treatment, dude gets dumber by the day.
- The title of this thread is one I think about 5-10 times a week. I will see Trump do some new dimwitted thing, and think of this thread title. We really have picked a terrible time to have the stupidest President ever. Dude is out there starting WW3 after begging for a peace prize. It’s not like it’s some grand strategy, it’s that this stupid fool intentionally alienated all of our allies and now is begging for help from his own unnecessary war. Meanwhile, Russia helps out their buddy Iran on the daily, and it’s crickets about that. Right.
Stupidest President ever. We need impeachments for the next two years to rein this lying asshat in.
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Two thoughts:
- @fubah, it’s dementia by a mile. Dude brags about taking the MOCA test. They only give that test to people with cognitive deficits. Cognitive deficits usually require lengthy treatment before they get better. Trump ain’t getting any mental health treatment, dude gets dumber by the day.
- The title of this thread is one I think about 5-10 times a week. I will see Trump do some new dimwitted thing, and think of this thread title. We really have picked a terrible time to have the stupidest President ever. Dude is out there starting WW3 after begging for a peace prize. It’s not like it’s some grand strategy, it’s that this stupid fool intentionally alienated all of our allies and now is begging for help from his own unnecessary war. Meanwhile, Russia helps out their buddy Iran on the daily, and it’s crickets about that. Right.
Stupidest President ever. We need impeachments for the next two years to rein this lying asshat in.
Two thoughts: - @fubah, it’s dementia by a mile. Dude brags about taking the MOCA test. They only give that test to people with cognitive deficits. Cognitive deficits usually require lengthy treatment before they get better. Trump ain’t getting any mental health treatment, dude gets dumber by the day. - The title of this thread is one I think about 5-10 times a week. I will see Trump do some new dimwitted thing, and think of this thread title. We really have picked a terrible time to have the stupidest President ever. Dude is out there starting WW3 after begging for a peace prize. It’s not like it’s some grand strategy, it’s that this stupid fool intentionally alienated all of our allies and now is begging for help from his own unnecessary war. Meanwhile, Russia helps out their buddy Iran on the daily, and it’s crickets about that. Right. Stupidest President ever. We need impeachments for the next two years to rein this lying asshat in.
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:
Two thoughts: - @fubah, it’s dementia by a mile. Dude brags about taking the MOCA test. They only give that test to people with cognitive deficits. Cognitive deficits usually require lengthy treatment before they get better. Trump ain’t getting any mental health treatment, dude gets dumber by the day. - The title of this thread is one I think about 5-10 times a week. I will see Trump do some new dimwitted thing, and think of this thread title. We really have picked a terrible time to have the stupidest President ever. Dude is out there starting WW3 after begging for a peace prize. It’s not like it’s some grand strategy, it’s that this stupid fool intentionally alienated all of our allies and now is begging for help from his own unnecessary war. Meanwhile, Russia helps out their buddy Iran on the daily, and it’s crickets about that. Right. Stupidest President ever. We need impeachments for the next two years to rein this lying asshat in.
Stupid for Trump to lift oil sanctions against Iran and Russia to give them financial lifelines. Hypocritical for him to accuse Obama and Biden of appeasing enemies.
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Stupid for Trump to lift oil sanctions against Iran and Russia to give them financial lifelines. Hypocritical for him to accuse Obama and Biden of appeasing enemies.
Now Trump is stomping his big fat feet threatening to obliterate power plants if Iran does not bow to his demands. What do power plants have to do with nukes and human rights?
Yeah spin this Trumpsters, I guess this is another art of the deal example where to get what you want you threaten the other party and implode financial markets trillions.
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Now Trump is stomping his big fat feet threatening to obliterate power plants if Iran does not bow to his demands. What do power plants have to do with nukes and human rights?
Yeah spin this Trumpsters, I guess this is another art of the deal example where to get what you want you threaten the other party and implode financial markets trillions.
Stupid for Trump to lift oil sanctions against Iran and Russia to give them financial lifelines. Hypocritical for him to accuse Obama and Biden of appeasing enemies.
The racist/fascist/sex-offender-epstein buddy/convicted felon will stop at virtually nothing to save his own skin (ie, unpopular rise in gas prices which HE CAUSED in the first place!)
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Stupid for Trump to lift oil sanctions against Iran and Russia to give them financial lifelines. Hypocritical for him to accuse Obama and Biden of appeasing enemies.
The racist/fascist/sex-offender-epstein buddy/convicted felon will stop at virtually nothing to save his own skin (ie, unpopular rise in gas prices which HE CAUSED in the first place!)
Trump : Productive talks with Iran are happening! Iran : There has been no dialog with anyone! …. The books on Trump world will be selling long after we are dead!
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Trump : Productive talks with Iran are happening! Iran : There has been no dialog with anyone! …. The books on Trump world will be selling long after we are dead!
He has pulled another taco don move, now he has said he is going to let the deadline expire BUT in 5 more days if they shut it down that is it!!!!! He is so weak it is a joke how his sheep protect him, guess they figure he needs the help.
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@wallstreetcappers
He has pulled another taco don move, now he has said he is going to let the deadline expire BUT in 5 more days if they shut it down that is it!!!!! He is so weak it is a joke how his sheep protect him, guess they figure he needs the help.
@wallstreetcappers He has pulled another taco don move, now he has said he is going to let the deadline expire BUT in 5 more days if they shut it down that is it!!!!! He is so weak it is a joke how his sheep protect him, guess they figure he needs the help.
TRUE! T A C O
But as another has already pointed out, this could well be another money-making tactic in the stock market for himself and all his rich friends. Sell high - buy low after trump threats....then profit "bigly" when trump signals a change of heart and the market quickly rebounds!
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Quote Originally Posted by JEG53:
@wallstreetcappers He has pulled another taco don move, now he has said he is going to let the deadline expire BUT in 5 more days if they shut it down that is it!!!!! He is so weak it is a joke how his sheep protect him, guess they figure he needs the help.
TRUE! T A C O
But as another has already pointed out, this could well be another money-making tactic in the stock market for himself and all his rich friends. Sell high - buy low after trump threats....then profit "bigly" when trump signals a change of heart and the market quickly rebounds!
No doubt he and his "ALLIES" have made big money on his illegal handling and insider trading on knowing his tactics before he does something illegal. He is a criminal and they know and only hang with like minded people. We know he shares info with anyone he wants approval from.
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@fubah2
No doubt he and his "ALLIES" have made big money on his illegal handling and insider trading on knowing his tactics before he does something illegal. He is a criminal and they know and only hang with like minded people. We know he shares info with anyone he wants approval from.
@wallstreetcappers He has pulled another taco don move, now he has said he is going to let the deadline expire BUT in 5 more days if they shut it down that is it!!!!! He is so weak it is a joke how his sheep protect him, guess they figure he needs the help.
He also claims he's just had positive discussions with Iran about conceding to all trump demands......Some Iranian sources have denied that claim...
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Quote Originally Posted by JEG53:
@wallstreetcappers He has pulled another taco don move, now he has said he is going to let the deadline expire BUT in 5 more days if they shut it down that is it!!!!! He is so weak it is a joke how his sheep protect him, guess they figure he needs the help.
He also claims he's just had positive discussions with Iran about conceding to all trump demands......Some Iranian sources have denied that claim...
....and I do agree with 99% of your post, as it follows logic and known facts...
But to MAGAs,
.....but if he had bombed a children's hospital instead, that might be a redline 
....................maybe.
The Pentagon and National Security Council [under trump direction] significantly 
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