Or me and bws and all of the rest of the site that agrees that sportsfan is the "village idiot of covers"... Altho you seem to give him a good run for his money... What ever that is worth...
Typical bowslit
Me and sportsfan?
Or me and bws and all of the rest of the site that agrees that sportsfan is the "village idiot of covers"... Altho you seem to give him a good run for his money... What ever that is worth...
Bail out from what? Me mentioning that people missed that analysis by ck Louis? Lol
It's like you want to emulate my posting style but fail so miserably. Mainly because I just comment on what people post, no prescribed rhetoric of scripted talking points like you are programmed to do.. But as usually you lack the self awareness to see you are Failing...
Typical bowslit
Bail out from what? Me mentioning that people missed that analysis by ck Louis? Lol
It's like you want to emulate my posting style but fail so miserably. Mainly because I just comment on what people post, no prescribed rhetoric of scripted talking points like you are programmed to do.. But as usually you lack the self awareness to see you are Failing...
I do not claim China's economy is perfect - far from it. Their economy suffers from many of the same shortcomings that the U.S. does - concentration of wealth, imperiled banks, greenlighted projects that had no actual economic merit, social and geographical inequalities, among others. Their record on pollution control is appalling, as if labor doesn't matter.
But China has experienced vast growth in global market share and a rising middle class while the U.S. has been declining in both cases.
I get what you are saying. Just be careful. Because a lot of it is just not true. For example the middle class:
I do not claim China's economy is perfect - far from it. Their economy suffers from many of the same shortcomings that the U.S. does - concentration of wealth, imperiled banks, greenlighted projects that had no actual economic merit, social and geographical inequalities, among others. Their record on pollution control is appalling, as if labor doesn't matter.
But China has experienced vast growth in global market share and a rising middle class while the U.S. has been declining in both cases.
I get what you are saying. Just be careful. Because a lot of it is just not true. For example the middle class:
The bottom line is Scully was right. No matter how much socialism you have you will always have rich and powerful people on the top. The difference is we have a huge middle class. And no matter how you define middle, or even poor, in this country, we consider televisions, cable, cell/smart phones as necessities.
Picture a pyramid. I would rather be part of the American pyramid than a pyramid from any other country.
Dog Bite kinda addressed what Scully said.
The bottom line is Scully was right. No matter how much socialism you have you will always have rich and powerful people on the top. The difference is we have a huge middle class. And no matter how you define middle, or even poor, in this country, we consider televisions, cable, cell/smart phones as necessities.
Picture a pyramid. I would rather be part of the American pyramid than a pyramid from any other country.
Ask the people that come from these third world hellholes where its better at. They'll be happy to tell you what its like. Only an absolute uneducated moron would want Socialism.
Still waiting for that list of countries where it's so great (it's been a few days now)... I'll keep waiting.
Ask the people that come from these third world hellholes where its better at. They'll be happy to tell you what its like. Only an absolute uneducated moron would want Socialism.
Still waiting for that list of countries where it's so great (it's been a few days now)... I'll keep waiting.
Speaks volumes that when non lefties disagree with someone they attack that someone with facts, logic, data, but when lefties disagree they attack with insults and degradation.
Centaur, unfortunately it will be this way until the end of mankind.
The right thinks and argues their point with logic & reason ; the left thinks and argues with emotion.
And The good of man is not borne out of emotion.
Quote Originally Posted by thecentaur:
Speaks volumes that when non lefties disagree with someone they attack that someone with facts, logic, data, but when lefties disagree they attack with insults and degradation.
Centaur, unfortunately it will be this way until the end of mankind.
The right thinks and argues their point with logic & reason ; the left thinks and argues with emotion.
Full-blown socialism is not viable in the United States but neither is full-blown capitalism. Right now the system we have produces a lot of losers and a few winners. You're told to get a good education, enter a field of need and once you've gotten a good job, you'll be able to sustain yourself and have a quality life.
The reality is most people are forced to plunge themselves into debt to afford college, 50 to 100 people often apply for 1 position and the losers are forced to settle for something that isn't quite on the same level. The industries are saturated with too many applicants and not enough quality jobs. Over 60% of Americans have $1,000 or less in their savings accounts for any emergency that might come up, which is rather telling as well.
I happen to have no debt and no mortgage but that is not the reality for most Americans. Most of them are poor, in debt and barely make their ends meet. I think that people still misunderstand Bernie's popularity. Free college is only part of what appealed to voters. (Tennessee's governor put into place an interesting program that is a decent starting point) Economic viability for the average person is really what his campaign was all about.
Now what integration of socialism and capitialism ends up being the right amount for everyone? I can't say with any certainy but I am fairly sure that the current model in place for Americans will continue to be under scrutiny
Full-blown socialism is not viable in the United States but neither is full-blown capitalism. Right now the system we have produces a lot of losers and a few winners. You're told to get a good education, enter a field of need and once you've gotten a good job, you'll be able to sustain yourself and have a quality life.
The reality is most people are forced to plunge themselves into debt to afford college, 50 to 100 people often apply for 1 position and the losers are forced to settle for something that isn't quite on the same level. The industries are saturated with too many applicants and not enough quality jobs. Over 60% of Americans have $1,000 or less in their savings accounts for any emergency that might come up, which is rather telling as well.
I happen to have no debt and no mortgage but that is not the reality for most Americans. Most of them are poor, in debt and barely make their ends meet. I think that people still misunderstand Bernie's popularity. Free college is only part of what appealed to voters. (Tennessee's governor put into place an interesting program that is a decent starting point) Economic viability for the average person is really what his campaign was all about.
Now what integration of socialism and capitialism ends up being the right amount for everyone? I can't say with any certainy but I am fairly sure that the current model in place for Americans will continue to be under scrutiny
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