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US Citizen shot 4 times in the head and one time in the chest.. by Israel commandos

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jpero
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Posted: Jun. 6, 2010 - 11:38 AM ET #101

Quote Originally Posted by woopdurritis:



The poster you are responding to is the definition of ignorance, he takes the side of the underdog and kicks and flails for their defense




Yup. You are Jewish so of course you see no wrong in any of Israel's actions.

I understand why you would support them regardless of anything they do. I haven't said anything incorrect in this thread regarding facts or history. Hold em has tried comparing the US gaining California and Nevada during the Mexican-American war to the UN just taking the land of hte Palestinians, without asking, and giving it to the person.

The 2 are not comparable in any way.

And it is slowly coming out that Israel covered up their hostile takeover of a humanitarian aid ship and the story first released by them is fabricated.

I still cant wait for the videos from the passengers of the ship. It will tell even more about what really happened.
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The poster you are responding to is the definition of ignorance, he takes the side of the underdog and kicks and flails for their defense




Yup. You are Jewish so of course you see no wrong in any of Israel's actions.

I understand why you would support them regardless of anything they do. I haven't said anything incorrect in this thread regarding facts or history. Hold em has tried comparing the US gaining California and Nevada during the Mexican-American war to the UN just taking the land of hte Palestinians, without asking, and giving it to the person.

The 2 are not comparable in any way.

And it is slowly coming out that Israel covered up their hostile takeover of a humanitarian aid ship and the story first released by them is fabricated.

I still cant wait for the videos from the passengers of the ship. It will tell even more about what really happened.
 
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Posted: Jun. 6, 2010 - 11:48 AM ET #102

Quote Originally Posted by Mikael99:

BOB is that you

How many aliases do you got.

Ah yes, the “I don’t have anything to counter with so I’ll just accuse you of being Bob” liberal post.  

How original.

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Quote Originally Posted by Mikael99:

BOB is that you

How many aliases do you got.

Ah yes, the “I don’t have anything to counter with so I’ll just accuse you of being Bob” liberal post.  

How original.

 
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Posted: Jun. 6, 2010 - 11:49 AM ET #103

Here is an account of what really happened.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/the-hijacking-of-the-truth-film-evidence-destroyed-1992517.html

evidence destroyed
assassination list
peace activists shot in the back
commandos fire on peace activist from helicopters

what ever Israel says is a flat out lie
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Here is an account of what really happened.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/the-hijacking-of-the-truth-film-evidence-destroyed-1992517.html

evidence destroyed
assassination list
peace activists shot in the back
commandos fire on peace activist from helicopters

what ever Israel says is a flat out lie
 
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Posted: Jun. 6, 2010 - 11:54 AM ET #104

More and more articles and stories are coming out like this one...

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More and more articles and stories are coming out like this one...

 
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Posted: Jun. 6, 2010 - 12:05 PM ET #105

Someone (like GWB) needs to give Israel better lying lessons because their version of the story came straight from stupid-ville and did they actually think that the real version wouldnt come forward and make them look like the offensive butchers that they were?

"We found nothing on the first 5 boats, but did on the 6th" how transparent and pathetic of a storyline, I didnt need to read or hear a single thing more to know he was 100% full of sh!t..oh that and him walking straight off the podium with no Q&A allowed.

Of course they were on the offensive, of course they killed innocent people, of course they have zero credibility..

The real question is what does the US and the UN do as this story keeps unfolding and the truth comes out?
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Someone (like GWB) needs to give Israel better lying lessons because their version of the story came straight from stupid-ville and did they actually think that the real version wouldnt come forward and make them look like the offensive butchers that they were?

"We found nothing on the first 5 boats, but did on the 6th" how transparent and pathetic of a storyline, I didnt need to read or hear a single thing more to know he was 100% full of sh!t..oh that and him walking straight off the podium with no Q&A allowed.

Of course they were on the offensive, of course they killed innocent people, of course they have zero credibility..

The real question is what does the US and the UN do as this story keeps unfolding and the truth comes out?
 
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Posted: Jun. 6, 2010 - 3:00 PM ET #106

Quote Originally Posted by jpero:





Yup. You are Jewish so of course you see no wrong in any of Israel's actions.

I understand why you would support them regardless of anything they do. I haven't said anything incorrect in this thread regarding facts or history. Hold em has tried comparing the US gaining California and Nevada during the Mexican-American war to the UN just taking the land of hte Palestinians, without asking, and giving it to the person.

The 2 are not comparable in any way.

And it is slowly coming out that Israel covered up their hostile takeover of a humanitarian aid ship and the story first released by them is fabricated.

I still cant wait for the videos from the passengers of the ship. It will tell even more about what really happened.
30 gunshots let alone 5 in the head at close range is self defence

Self-defense is the right to use reasonable force to protect oneself or members of the family from bodily harm

The force used in self-defense may be sufficient for protection from apparent harm (not just an empty verbal threat) or to halt any danger from attack, but cannot be an excuse to prolong the attack or use excessive force

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Quote Originally Posted by jpero:





Yup. You are Jewish so of course you see no wrong in any of Israel's actions.

I understand why you would support them regardless of anything they do. I haven't said anything incorrect in this thread regarding facts or history. Hold em has tried comparing the US gaining California and Nevada during the Mexican-American war to the UN just taking the land of hte Palestinians, without asking, and giving it to the person.

The 2 are not comparable in any way.

And it is slowly coming out that Israel covered up their hostile takeover of a humanitarian aid ship and the story first released by them is fabricated.

I still cant wait for the videos from the passengers of the ship. It will tell even more about what really happened.
30 gunshots let alone 5 in the head at close range is self defence

Self-defense is the right to use reasonable force to protect oneself or members of the family from bodily harm

The force used in self-defense may be sufficient for protection from apparent harm (not just an empty verbal threat) or to halt any danger from attack, but cannot be an excuse to prolong the attack or use excessive force

 
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Posted: Jun. 6, 2010 - 3:53 PM ET #107



Yup. You are Jewish so of course you see no wrong in any of Israel's actions.


Nice,  and typical piece of bigotry jpero...go sell stupid elsewhere...or have you run out of your last copies of the Protocols of Zion to sell?? 

 


 
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Yup. You are Jewish so of course you see no wrong in any of Israel's actions.


Nice,  and typical piece of bigotry jpero...go sell stupid elsewhere...or have you run out of your last copies of the Protocols of Zion to sell?? 

 


 
 
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Posted: Jun. 6, 2010 - 4:06 PM ET #108

Quote Originally Posted by Vermeer:



Yup. You are Jewish so of course you see no wrong in any of Israel's actions.


Nice,  and typical piece of bigotry jpero...go sell stupid elsewhere...or have you run out of your last copies of the Protocols of Zion to sell?? 

 


 




Woop is Jewish. I do not believe that most on here know that about him.

So of course he is going to back Israel regardless of what they do. And I understand that and know why he would back them.

Dont know how that makes me a bigot.
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Quote Originally Posted by Vermeer:



Yup. You are Jewish so of course you see no wrong in any of Israel's actions.


Nice,  and typical piece of bigotry jpero...go sell stupid elsewhere...or have you run out of your last copies of the Protocols of Zion to sell?? 

 


 




Woop is Jewish. I do not believe that most on here know that about him.

So of course he is going to back Israel regardless of what they do. And I understand that and know why he would back them.

Dont know how that makes me a bigot.
 
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Posted: Jun. 6, 2010 - 4:22 PM ET #109

The Jewish faith was attempted to be wiped off the face of this earth. So of course they should be protected and given support so that nothing ever threatens the Jewish faith, as a whole, again.

But that does not give them the right to commit the acts they have committed. They have been given a lot of leeway over the years but they are over stepping their power and boundries and creating more problems because of their actions.
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The Jewish faith was attempted to be wiped off the face of this earth. So of course they should be protected and given support so that nothing ever threatens the Jewish faith, as a whole, again.

But that does not give them the right to commit the acts they have committed. They have been given a lot of leeway over the years but they are over stepping their power and boundries and creating more problems because of their actions.
 
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Posted: Jun. 6, 2010 - 4:25 PM ET #110

Every religion should be protected or free to practice

None should step over into killing in cold blood

That goes for radical muslims, skinheads, and jewish people who believe these killings were in self defence b'c the obviously were more than just defending yourself...

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Every religion should be protected or free to practice

None should step over into killing in cold blood

That goes for radical muslims, skinheads, and jewish people who believe these killings were in self defence b'c the obviously were more than just defending yourself...

 
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Posted: Jun. 6, 2010 - 7:00 PM ET #111

Quote Originally Posted by jpero:





Woop is Jewish. I do not believe that most on here know that about him.

So of course he is going to back Israel regardless of what they do. And I understand that and know why he would back them.

Dont know how that makes me a bigot.

 Well, surprise...you are!! Then again, your lack of understanding why is hardly surprising..
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Woop is Jewish. I do not believe that most on here know that about him.

So of course he is going to back Israel regardless of what they do. And I understand that and know why he would back them.

Dont know how that makes me a bigot.

 Well, surprise...you are!! Then again, your lack of understanding why is hardly surprising..
 
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Posted: Jun. 7, 2010 - 11:19 AM ET #112

Quote Originally Posted by Vermeer:


 Well, surprise...you are!! Then again, your lack of understanding why is hardly surprising..


Bigot: The term has evolved to refer to persons hostile to people of differing race, ethnicity, nationality, sexual orientation, religion in modern English usage.

None of that definition even remotely describes me or the way I live my life. I am one of the most accepting people when ti comes to different cultures of people different from me. I could careless what someone looks like or what their nationality or religious affiliation. People are people and no one gets to choose what they look like or what color skin they are.

There is the same types of people in every single race, religion, nationality, etc. There is someone who is just like me who is asian, black, hispanic, middle eastern, etc.

It irritates me when people judge others based on appearance or affiliation without even knowing that person or group of people. SO your assertion and statement is flat out wrong.
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 Well, surprise...you are!! Then again, your lack of understanding why is hardly surprising..


Bigot: The term has evolved to refer to persons hostile to people of differing race, ethnicity, nationality, sexual orientation, religion in modern English usage.

None of that definition even remotely describes me or the way I live my life. I am one of the most accepting people when ti comes to different cultures of people different from me. I could careless what someone looks like or what their nationality or religious affiliation. People are people and no one gets to choose what they look like or what color skin they are.

There is the same types of people in every single race, religion, nationality, etc. There is someone who is just like me who is asian, black, hispanic, middle eastern, etc.

It irritates me when people judge others based on appearance or affiliation without even knowing that person or group of people. SO your assertion and statement is flat out wrong.
 
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Posted: Jun. 7, 2010 - 11:28 AM ET #113

I use to blindly support Israel and anything they did because I was unaware of the the complete situation. The US media always paints the Israelis as being in the right and the ones being attacked by the Palestinians. And since I have Jewish friends they always would say the same things and I took their word for everything.

Well after meeting people from Palestine and hearing their side of what happened and getting a complete pitcure of hte complexity of hte issue. It came to the forefront that the media in the US does slant towards Israel a lot. And the situation is a result of sanctions and actions Israel has placed on the Palestinian people, whose land the Israeli were given/stolen from them. Israel is just as much of a terrorists to the Palestinian people as Hamas is to Israel.

Both sides do things that result in violent responses. And its going to keep happening until there can be some sort of resolution or Israel stops expanding and taking more of hte Palestinians land that wasn't even theirs to begin with.
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I use to blindly support Israel and anything they did because I was unaware of the the complete situation. The US media always paints the Israelis as being in the right and the ones being attacked by the Palestinians. And since I have Jewish friends they always would say the same things and I took their word for everything.

Well after meeting people from Palestine and hearing their side of what happened and getting a complete pitcure of hte complexity of hte issue. It came to the forefront that the media in the US does slant towards Israel a lot. And the situation is a result of sanctions and actions Israel has placed on the Palestinian people, whose land the Israeli were given/stolen from them. Israel is just as much of a terrorists to the Palestinian people as Hamas is to Israel.

Both sides do things that result in violent responses. And its going to keep happening until there can be some sort of resolution or Israel stops expanding and taking more of hte Palestinians land that wasn't even theirs to begin with.
 
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Posted: Jun. 7, 2010 - 11:41 AM ET #114

I think to Infer that every person is for the actions of Israel,
is akin to Inferring that every Muslim is for the actions of Iran.

It is a bit uncouth, and your insistence that it is not, only adds to the underlying idea that you may not know what you are talking about.
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I think to Infer that every person is for the actions of Israel,
is akin to Inferring that every Muslim is for the actions of Iran.

It is a bit uncouth, and your insistence that it is not, only adds to the underlying idea that you may not know what you are talking about.
 
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Posted: Jun. 7, 2010 - 11:43 AM ET #115

Quote Originally Posted by jpero:

I use to blindly support Israel and anything they did because I was unaware of the the complete situation. The US media always paints the Israelis as being in the right and the ones being attacked by the Palestinians. And since I have Jewish friends they always would say the same things and I took their word for everything.

Well after meeting people from Palestine and hearing their side of what happened and getting a complete pitcure of hte complexity of hte issue. It came to the forefront that the media in the US does slant towards Israel a lot. And the situation is a result of sanctions and actions Israel has placed on the Palestinian people, whose land the Israeli were given/stolen from them. Israel is just as much of a terrorists to the Palestinian people as Hamas is to Israel.

Both sides do things that result in violent responses. And its going to keep happening until there can be some sort of resolution or Israel stops expanding and taking more of hte Palestinians land that wasn't even theirs to begin with.


As long as there is an Israel, there will be no peace. You may get your wish if Iran gets in the mix.
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Quote Originally Posted by jpero:

I use to blindly support Israel and anything they did because I was unaware of the the complete situation. The US media always paints the Israelis as being in the right and the ones being attacked by the Palestinians. And since I have Jewish friends they always would say the same things and I took their word for everything.

Well after meeting people from Palestine and hearing their side of what happened and getting a complete pitcure of hte complexity of hte issue. It came to the forefront that the media in the US does slant towards Israel a lot. And the situation is a result of sanctions and actions Israel has placed on the Palestinian people, whose land the Israeli were given/stolen from them. Israel is just as much of a terrorists to the Palestinian people as Hamas is to Israel.

Both sides do things that result in violent responses. And its going to keep happening until there can be some sort of resolution or Israel stops expanding and taking more of hte Palestinians land that wasn't even theirs to begin with.


As long as there is an Israel, there will be no peace. You may get your wish if Iran gets in the mix.
 
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Posted: Jun. 7, 2010 - 11:43 AM ET #116

Quote Originally Posted by rick3117:

I think to Infer that every person is for the actions of Israel,
is akin to Inferring that every Muslim is for the actions of Iran.

It is a bit uncouth, and your insistence that it is not, only adds to the underlying idea that you may not know what you are talking about.


Woop has already expressed he is for what Israel has done.


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Quote Originally Posted by rick3117:

I think to Infer that every person is for the actions of Israel,
is akin to Inferring that every Muslim is for the actions of Iran.

It is a bit uncouth, and your insistence that it is not, only adds to the underlying idea that you may not know what you are talking about.


Woop has already expressed he is for what Israel has done.


 
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Posted: Jun. 7, 2010 - 11:47 AM ET #117

Quote Originally Posted by rick3117:



As long as there is an Israel, there will be no peace. You may get your wish if Iran gets in the mix.


By saying this you are inferring I want Israel eliminated which is completely false.

I said before that Israel is asking for their own defeat by acting the way they have been acting and Iran will most likely jump at the opportunity becaus they have a sick leader in charge.

Thats the absolute last thing that needs to happen because if Iran and Israel start to go at it then it will be the start of WWIII

We, as a world, need to do everything possible to stop such a conflict from happening.
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Quote Originally Posted by rick3117:



As long as there is an Israel, there will be no peace. You may get your wish if Iran gets in the mix.


By saying this you are inferring I want Israel eliminated which is completely false.

I said before that Israel is asking for their own defeat by acting the way they have been acting and Iran will most likely jump at the opportunity becaus they have a sick leader in charge.

Thats the absolute last thing that needs to happen because if Iran and Israel start to go at it then it will be the start of WWIII

We, as a world, need to do everything possible to stop such a conflict from happening.
 
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Posted: Jun. 7, 2010 - 11:48 AM ET #118

That is fine, but you put it in a way that could be read in that light, I am not offended, but I am not Jewish. I don't even know if that is what he was offended at, but that is what stood out to me.
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That is fine, but you put it in a way that could be read in that light, I am not offended, but I am not Jewish. I don't even know if that is what he was offended at, but that is what stood out to me.
 
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Posted: Jun. 7, 2010 - 11:55 AM ET #119

Quote Originally Posted by jpero:



By saying this you are inferring I want Israel eliminated which is completely false.

I said before that Israel is asking for their own defeat by acting the way they have been acting and Iran will most likely jump at the opportunity becaus they have a sick leader in charge.

Thats the absolute last thing that needs to happen because if Iran and Israel start to go at it then it will be the start of WWIII

We, as a world, need to do everything possible to stop such a conflict from happening.


I just think that everyone that is waving a Palestinian flag, and asking for sanctions on Israel, needs to understand that the consensus of what should happen to Israel is complete obliteration. Those that have heard mahamood ahmadinejad rail against the "stinking corpse" of Israel, and work towards its destruction by supplying fighters and rockets/weapons to Palestine have no question that the blockade is necessary.


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By saying this you are inferring I want Israel eliminated which is completely false.

I said before that Israel is asking for their own defeat by acting the way they have been acting and Iran will most likely jump at the opportunity becaus they have a sick leader in charge.

Thats the absolute last thing that needs to happen because if Iran and Israel start to go at it then it will be the start of WWIII

We, as a world, need to do everything possible to stop such a conflict from happening.


I just think that everyone that is waving a Palestinian flag, and asking for sanctions on Israel, needs to understand that the consensus of what should happen to Israel is complete obliteration. Those that have heard mahamood ahmadinejad rail against the "stinking corpse" of Israel, and work towards its destruction by supplying fighters and rockets/weapons to Palestine have no question that the blockade is necessary.


 
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Posted: Jun. 7, 2010 - 12:14 PM ET #120

Quote Originally Posted by rick3117:



I just think that everyone that is waving a Palestinian flag, and asking for sanctions on Israel, needs to understand that the consensus of what should happen to Israel is complete obliteration. Those that have heard mahamood ahmadinejad rail against the "stinking corpse" of Israel, and work towards its destruction by supplying fighters and rockets/weapons to Palestine have no question that the blockade is necessary.




Just as you said by me saying the comment about Woop equated to me saying all Jewish people support Israel's actions...

This statement makes it sound that you believe all Palestinians are terrorists and want to attack Israel.
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Quote Originally Posted by rick3117:



I just think that everyone that is waving a Palestinian flag, and asking for sanctions on Israel, needs to understand that the consensus of what should happen to Israel is complete obliteration. Those that have heard mahamood ahmadinejad rail against the "stinking corpse" of Israel, and work towards its destruction by supplying fighters and rockets/weapons to Palestine have no question that the blockade is necessary.




Just as you said by me saying the comment about Woop equated to me saying all Jewish people support Israel's actions...

This statement makes it sound that you believe all Palestinians are terrorists and want to attack Israel.
 
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Posted: Jun. 7, 2010 - 12:17 PM ET #121

Why cant the Israeli's search ships and when nothing is found just allow the humanitarian aid to go to the Palestinians.

The Israeli's are being terrorists in their own way by not allowing the Palestinian people everyday needs and medical supplies, food, supplies to rebuild their towns and cities and country.
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Why cant the Israeli's search ships and when nothing is found just allow the humanitarian aid to go to the Palestinians.

The Israeli's are being terrorists in their own way by not allowing the Palestinian people everyday needs and medical supplies, food, supplies to rebuild their towns and cities and country.
 
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Posted: Jun. 7, 2010 - 1:46 PM ET #122

Why don't you look into who didn't want the Red Cross to go to Gaza, and tell me Israel is denying aid.

They do not want groups that have ties (even if they are loose ties) with terror organizations, such as the Free Palestine group docking up in Gaza and joining in the war against Israel.

Would you think it would be a good idea for Al qaeda to send a boat full of aid to Iraq or Afghanistan?

Do you think our commanders on the ground would allow that to take place? 

I am not sure I have heard all of the peaceful ways that Palestinians or Iranians want to handle the Israel situation,  maybe because it is the Pro-Israel media we have, maybe it is only because I see Israeli flags and American flags being burned in the streets, or I see Mahamood declaring that he wants to wipe Israel off the map. 

Maybe by wiping them off the map, he means give them a big hug, I don't know,  maybe you could link me to some pro-Palestinian sites that promote peace.

The consensus of these nations is the dissolution and extermination of the state of Israel, any other tasks on the way to achieving that goal are ancillary.




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Why don't you look into who didn't want the Red Cross to go to Gaza, and tell me Israel is denying aid.

They do not want groups that have ties (even if they are loose ties) with terror organizations, such as the Free Palestine group docking up in Gaza and joining in the war against Israel.

Would you think it would be a good idea for Al qaeda to send a boat full of aid to Iraq or Afghanistan?

Do you think our commanders on the ground would allow that to take place? 

I am not sure I have heard all of the peaceful ways that Palestinians or Iranians want to handle the Israel situation,  maybe because it is the Pro-Israel media we have, maybe it is only because I see Israeli flags and American flags being burned in the streets, or I see Mahamood declaring that he wants to wipe Israel off the map. 

Maybe by wiping them off the map, he means give them a big hug, I don't know,  maybe you could link me to some pro-Palestinian sites that promote peace.

The consensus of these nations is the dissolution and extermination of the state of Israel, any other tasks on the way to achieving that goal are ancillary.




 
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Posted: Jun. 7, 2010 - 2:02 PM ET #123

Quote Originally Posted by jpero:



Just as you said by me saying the comment about Woop equated to me saying all Jewish people support Israel's actions...

This statement makes it sound that you believe all Palestinians are terrorists and want to attack Israel.


Maybe I made it sound that way, but that is not what I said.
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Quote Originally Posted by jpero:



Just as you said by me saying the comment about Woop equated to me saying all Jewish people support Israel's actions...

This statement makes it sound that you believe all Palestinians are terrorists and want to attack Israel.


Maybe I made it sound that way, but that is not what I said.
 
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Jpero: congrats on googling up a definition. Too bad logic is not susceptible to such immediacy.

 Sorry bud, anyone stupid enough to write the following, and not see it for what it is, well, let's just say, they did not major in logic..( I think Lenin might have nailed you, though, as a "useful idiot.")  

Yup. You are Jewish so of course you see no wrong in any of Israel's actions.

 

 
 
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Jpero: congrats on googling up a definition. Too bad logic is not susceptible to such immediacy.

 Sorry bud, anyone stupid enough to write the following, and not see it for what it is, well, let's just say, they did not major in logic..( I think Lenin might have nailed you, though, as a "useful idiot.")  

Yup. You are Jewish so of course you see no wrong in any of Israel's actions.

 

 
 
 
 
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Posted: Jun. 7, 2010 - 2:21 PM ET #125

Quote Originally Posted by jpero:





Woop is Jewish. I do not believe that most on here know that about him.

So of course he is going to back Israel regardless of what they do. And I understand that and know why he would back them.

Dont know how that makes me a bigot.

I am TECHNICALLY Jewish (which I have stated on here before) even though I don't practice religion and consider myself athiest... 

If I said Italy or Sicily sucked balls and should be destroyed... you would cry and defend them as well 
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Quote Originally Posted by jpero:





Woop is Jewish. I do not believe that most on here know that about him.

So of course he is going to back Israel regardless of what they do. And I understand that and know why he would back them.

Dont know how that makes me a bigot.

I am TECHNICALLY Jewish (which I have stated on here before) even though I don't practice religion and consider myself athiest... 

If I said Italy or Sicily sucked balls and should be destroyed... you would cry and defend them as well 
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