US Airstrikes Underway in Syria
Personally I don't have a problem with the strikes. Unfortunately the verification process got bogged down at the UN.
The strikes weren't intended to end the conflict in Syria they were intended to diminsh Assads' chemical weapons capabilities. Additional sanctions are coming for Russia, on Monday I believe.
Mission Accomplished
Personally I don't have a problem with the strikes. Unfortunately the verification process got bogged down at the UN.
The strikes weren't intended to end the conflict in Syria they were intended to diminsh Assads' chemical weapons capabilities. Additional sanctions are coming for Russia, on Monday I believe.
Mission Accomplished
I read your trash links darkhorse.
I read your trash links darkhorse.
I read your trash links darkhorse.
I read your trash links darkhorse.
This is not accurate ...America has acknowledged that we had number of so-called "spotters" on the ground to assist warplanes to target pro-Gaddafi forces....plus other military personnel (explosive-ordnance experts ) who were disabling explosives traps left in our embassy.
This is not accurate ...America has acknowledged that we had number of so-called "spotters" on the ground to assist warplanes to target pro-Gaddafi forces....plus other military personnel (explosive-ordnance experts ) who were disabling explosives traps left in our embassy.
This is not accurate ...America has acknowledged that we had number of so-called "spotters" on the ground to assist warplanes to target pro-Gaddafi forces....plus other military personnel (explosive-ordnance experts ) who were disabling explosives traps left in our embassy.
This is not accurate ...America has acknowledged that we had number of so-called "spotters" on the ground to assist warplanes to target pro-Gaddafi forces....plus other military personnel (explosive-ordnance experts ) who were disabling explosives traps left in our embassy.
No !
I made no mention that Obama was wrong in bombing Libya... only that you saying we had no troops on the ground was an untruth ..there were American troops on the ground when we bombed Libya ...
Plus claiming that Obama consulted congress about Syria...is misleading.. Before launching Operation Odyssey Dawn against Libya, Obama secured authorization from both the Arab League and the United Nations...... But at no point did he ever push for a debate, or vote, in the United States Congress...he only did so after the fact..
No !
I made no mention that Obama was wrong in bombing Libya... only that you saying we had no troops on the ground was an untruth ..there were American troops on the ground when we bombed Libya ...
Plus claiming that Obama consulted congress about Syria...is misleading.. Before launching Operation Odyssey Dawn against Libya, Obama secured authorization from both the Arab League and the United Nations...... But at no point did he ever push for a debate, or vote, in the United States Congress...he only did so after the fact..
Posted: 6 minutes ago "Quote" Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim: This is not accurate ...America has acknowledged that we had number of so-called "spotters" on the ground to assist warplanes to target pro-Gaddafi forces....plus other military personnel (explosive-ordnance experts ) who were disabling explosives traps left in our embassy. If that is true and Obama was in the wrong then trump would also be in the wrong, right?
Posted: an hour ago "Quote" I'll make it simple for you two. 165 get someone to read this to you.He introduced the Armed Forces of the United States into hostilities without consulting congress when there was no threat to the US, its territories or our armed forces. The link that this is contained ,which 165 you said is a trash link, is called "The War Powers Resolution" a resolution to the War Powers Act of 1941.The war powers act gave to much power to the president so congress made this resolution to dumb down the presidential power and give some of it back to congress.The Act and Resolution both refer to Article I sec 8 of the Constitution.
The Constitutions' Commander in Cheif Clause Article II, Section 2, Clause 1 allows for this type of strike. The international community including the USA and Assad signed a treaty correct? The Chemical Weapons Convention. The US has obligations, as do other nations, to the treaty. The Commander in Cheif Clause allows for this type of strike when enforcing treaty obligations that protect Americans' and/or American interests.
Well agree to disagree on this one.
Posted: 6 minutes ago "Quote" Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim: This is not accurate ...America has acknowledged that we had number of so-called "spotters" on the ground to assist warplanes to target pro-Gaddafi forces....plus other military personnel (explosive-ordnance experts ) who were disabling explosives traps left in our embassy. If that is true and Obama was in the wrong then trump would also be in the wrong, right?
Posted: an hour ago "Quote" I'll make it simple for you two. 165 get someone to read this to you.He introduced the Armed Forces of the United States into hostilities without consulting congress when there was no threat to the US, its territories or our armed forces. The link that this is contained ,which 165 you said is a trash link, is called "The War Powers Resolution" a resolution to the War Powers Act of 1941.The war powers act gave to much power to the president so congress made this resolution to dumb down the presidential power and give some of it back to congress.The Act and Resolution both refer to Article I sec 8 of the Constitution.
The Constitutions' Commander in Cheif Clause Article II, Section 2, Clause 1 allows for this type of strike. The international community including the USA and Assad signed a treaty correct? The Chemical Weapons Convention. The US has obligations, as do other nations, to the treaty. The Commander in Cheif Clause allows for this type of strike when enforcing treaty obligations that protect Americans' and/or American interests.
Well agree to disagree on this one.
Obama kept saying "Gaddfi must go"...."Colonel Gaddafi must leave Libya now"..
Have you heard President Trump call for Assad to go ?
You haven't ,,,because unlike Obama ..he is not advocating regime change..
Obama kept saying "Gaddfi must go"...."Colonel Gaddafi must leave Libya now"..
Have you heard President Trump call for Assad to go ?
You haven't ,,,because unlike Obama ..he is not advocating regime change..
The Constitutions' Commander in Cheif Clause Article II, Section 2, Clause 1 allows for this type of strike. The international community including the USA and Assad signed a treaty correct? The Chemical Weapons Convention. The US has obligations, as do other nations, to the treaty. The Commander in Cheif Clause allows for this type of strike when enforcing treaty obligations that protect Americans' and/or American interests.
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Reducing and deterring Assad's illegal use of chemical weapons is in America’s interests....
The Constitutions' Commander in Cheif Clause Article II, Section 2, Clause 1 allows for this type of strike. The international community including the USA and Assad signed a treaty correct? The Chemical Weapons Convention. The US has obligations, as do other nations, to the treaty. The Commander in Cheif Clause allows for this type of strike when enforcing treaty obligations that protect Americans' and/or American interests.
......
Reducing and deterring Assad's illegal use of chemical weapons is in America’s interests....
Posted: an hour ago "Quote" I'll make it simple for you two. 165 get someone to read this to you.He introduced the Armed Forces of the United States into hostilities without consulting congress when there was no threat to the US, its territories or our armed forces. The link that this is contained ,which 165 you said is a trash link, is called "The War Powers Resolution" a resolution to the War Powers Act of 1941.The war powers act gave to much power to the president so congress made this resolution to dumb down the presidential power and give some of it back to congress.The Act and Resolution both refer to Article I sec 8 of the Constitution.
The Constitutions' Commander in Cheif Clause Article II, Section 2, Clause 1 allows for this type of strike. The international community including the USA and Assad signed a treaty correct? The Chemical Weapons Convention. The US has obligations, as do other nations, to the treaty. The Commander in Cheif Clause allows for this type of strike when enforcing treaty obligations that protect Americans' and/or American interests.
Well agree to disagree on this one.
Posted: an hour ago "Quote" I'll make it simple for you two. 165 get someone to read this to you.He introduced the Armed Forces of the United States into hostilities without consulting congress when there was no threat to the US, its territories or our armed forces. The link that this is contained ,which 165 you said is a trash link, is called "The War Powers Resolution" a resolution to the War Powers Act of 1941.The war powers act gave to much power to the president so congress made this resolution to dumb down the presidential power and give some of it back to congress.The Act and Resolution both refer to Article I sec 8 of the Constitution.
The Constitutions' Commander in Cheif Clause Article II, Section 2, Clause 1 allows for this type of strike. The international community including the USA and Assad signed a treaty correct? The Chemical Weapons Convention. The US has obligations, as do other nations, to the treaty. The Commander in Cheif Clause allows for this type of strike when enforcing treaty obligations that protect Americans' and/or American interests.
Well agree to disagree on this one.
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Reducing and deterring Assad's illegal use of chemical weapons is in America’s interests....
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Reducing and deterring Assad's illegal use of chemical weapons is in America’s interests....
You may believe President is wrong ..but that in no way makes him wrong,just because you believe it to be so...
You may believe President is wrong ..but that in no way makes him wrong,just because you believe it to be so...
You may believe President is wrong ..but that in no way makes him wrong,just because you believe it to be so...
You may believe President is wrong ..but that in no way makes him wrong,just because you believe it to be so...
"By the way, Obama (PBUH) consulted congress about Syria so as not to violate the Constitution."
Obama (PBUH) was the first US President to enact a law.
"Congress shall solely enact laws."
The LAW to grant illegal aliens a stay in deportation, eligibility for employment and benefits, was also a double violation of the Constitution, in that it was a LAW in violation of laws already on the books (passed by Congress) regarding immigration and border security.
Noone can defend this. It sets a DANGEROUS precedent for future Presidents to BYPASS CONGRESS and enact laws.
"By the way, Obama (PBUH) consulted congress about Syria so as not to violate the Constitution."
Obama (PBUH) was the first US President to enact a law.
"Congress shall solely enact laws."
The LAW to grant illegal aliens a stay in deportation, eligibility for employment and benefits, was also a double violation of the Constitution, in that it was a LAW in violation of laws already on the books (passed by Congress) regarding immigration and border security.
Noone can defend this. It sets a DANGEROUS precedent for future Presidents to BYPASS CONGRESS and enact laws.
Did not say that it did ...quit spinning ..just stated the difference between the two actions ..
Never mentioned the Constitution..in #135
Did not say that it did ...quit spinning ..just stated the difference between the two actions ..
Never mentioned the Constitution..in #135
President Trump has just sent a formal notification to Congress complies with a 1973 congressional resolution requiring the president to disclose when he has committed U.S. troops to military action.
The president has broad authority as commander-in-chief to commit U.S. forces to protect national interests. U.S. air strikes on Syria were in the "vital national security and foreign policy interests" of the United States..............President Trump
President Trump has just sent a formal notification to Congress complies with a 1973 congressional resolution requiring the president to disclose when he has committed U.S. troops to military action.
The president has broad authority as commander-in-chief to commit U.S. forces to protect national interests. U.S. air strikes on Syria were in the "vital national security and foreign policy interests" of the United States..............President Trump
"The LAW to grant illegal aliens a stay in deportation, eligibility for employment and benefits, was also a double violation of the Constitution, in that it was a LAW in violation of laws already on the books (passed by Congress) regarding immigration and border security. "
Darkhorse12 is right. For decades, common for many presidents and immigration authorities to have wide discretion over immigration policy because of limited resources and impracticality of deporting everyone. US constitution and congress allow the executive branch broad authority in the administration and enforcement of immigration laws. So temporary deferral in deportation of illegal immigrants is constitutional according to letter signed by 105 law professors. Every legal challenge to DACA has failed because DACA is constitutional according to American civil liberty union.
"The LAW to grant illegal aliens a stay in deportation, eligibility for employment and benefits, was also a double violation of the Constitution, in that it was a LAW in violation of laws already on the books (passed by Congress) regarding immigration and border security. "
Darkhorse12 is right. For decades, common for many presidents and immigration authorities to have wide discretion over immigration policy because of limited resources and impracticality of deporting everyone. US constitution and congress allow the executive branch broad authority in the administration and enforcement of immigration laws. So temporary deferral in deportation of illegal immigrants is constitutional according to letter signed by 105 law professors. Every legal challenge to DACA has failed because DACA is constitutional according to American civil liberty union.
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