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Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Another eight Leopard 2 tanks have delivered to Ukraine from Norway The Norwegian armed forces have confirmed the delivery of eight German Leopard II to Kyiv earlier today, which should bolster the Ukrainian offensives in coming months. Great to see more international support to fight terrorism.  

With Finland now a part of NATO  the alliance is that much stronger against the Russky terrorists.

Exact opposite of Putin's stated objective.

 

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UNI....March 2022 peace_5  Remember.... 

 

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I know my opinion will fall of deaf ears and you can stone me later. Ukraine overthrew their Russian leaning government with a coup. The new president was a former actor who leaned to the West. When his popularity plummeted to below 40% he shutdown opposition media including three TV stations that criticized him. Ukraine had civil war in The Dobas for years. Those Ukrainians who favored Russia were now shutout. Then in June Zelensky said we are ready to join NATO. This pissed off Putin so he began openly massing troops at the border. He demanded security that NATO defenses would not be facing him from the Ukraine. He blamed Ukraine for ramping up attacks on pro-russians. Zelensky blew him off, Biden said its up to Ukraine if they want to join NATO. So basically the United States was not going resolve this issue.  Leading up to the invasion Zelensky mocked the news that the invasion would start on Wednesday, made fun of it. Putin reacted with the invasion. Zelensky handed out arms to civilians. And we are dismayed that those civilians are being targeted.  No doubt Ukrainian troops are hiding, meeting at places where they think Russia will not attack. No doubt Russia gets Intel where troops are hiding and bomb those places. No doubt our media shows it as a brutal unjustified attack. That is what war is. Ugly, brutal, with both sides twisting the actual facts. NBC with Lestor Holtz closed last night with tear jerking pictures occompanied with somber piano music that would make any Russian propagandist proud.  THIS WHOLE THING COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED!! BUT THE BEAR IS A THUG AND A MURDER SO LET'S BACK HIM INTO A CORNER AND DECLARE OURSELVES RIGHTOUS!!! WHAT HAPPENS NEXT

 

 

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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Another eight Leopard 2 tanks have delivered to Ukraine from Norway The Norwegian armed forces have confirmed the delivery of eight German Leopard II to Kyiv earlier today, which should bolster the Ukrainian offensives in coming months. Great to see more international support to fight terrorism.   With Finland now a part of NATO  the alliance is that much stronger against the Russky terrorists. Exact opposite of Putin's stated objective.

 

yep    terrorist attack against ukraine in the name of halting nato has backfired  bigly

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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Another eight Leopard 2 tanks have delivered to Ukraine from Norway The Norwegian armed forces have confirmed the delivery of eight German Leopard II to Kyiv earlier today, which should bolster the Ukrainian offensives in coming months. Great to see more international support to fight terrorism.   With Finland now a part of NATO  the alliance is that much stronger against the Russky terrorists. Exact opposite of Putin's stated objective.

 

yep    terrorist attack against ukraine in the name of halting nato has backfired  bigly

peace_5  

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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: How is that possible?Russia's central bank has taken dramatic steps in recent weeks to intervene in the market, implementing policies to prevent investorsand companies from selling the currency and other measures thatforce them to buy it. What has Moscow done to "artificially" boost the falling ruble? • The central bank has more than doubled interest rates to 20%. That encourages Russian savers to keep their money in local currency. • Exporters have been ordered to swap 80% of their foreign currency revenues for rubles rather than holding onto US dollars or euros. • Russian brokers have been banned from selling securities held by foreigners. • Residents are not allowed to make bank transfers outside Russia. • Russia has threatened to demand payment for natural gas in rubles, not euros or U.S. dollars. "These measures have allowed Moscow to artificially manufacture demand for the Russian ruble. The problem facing policymakers is that with Russia's economy in tatters, nobody actually wants to buy the currency of their own accord.  When the restrictions are lifted, demand for the ruble will drop, and its value will slide — perhaps dramatically."     Those enormous economic sanctions imposed by the West will dwindle Russia, Russian economy will go down pretty hard. Logical  Seriously, it comes down to how long can one tread water?

 

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@fubah2  Duly noted Fubah2 -- Today's date:  03/31/2022.

 

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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Another eight Leopard 2 tanks have delivered to Ukraine from Norway The Norwegian armed forces have confirmed the delivery of eight German Leopard II to Kyiv earlier today, which should bolster the Ukrainian offensives in coming months. Great to see more international support to fight terrorism.   With Finland now a part of NATO  the alliance is that much stronger against the Russky terrorists. Exact opposite of Putin's stated objective.  

yep    terrorist attack against ukraine in the name of halting nato has backfired  bigly peace_5an_clap

Ultimately be the undoing of Russia and plausibly Bellarus also!

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I love the way you used plausibly there an_cheers

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But sadly I think that there is only one “ L “ in Belarus peace_5

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Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Another eight Leopard 2 tanks have delivered to Ukraine from Norway The Norwegian armed forces have confirmed the delivery of eight German Leopard II to Kyiv earlier today, which should bolster the Ukrainian offensives in coming months. Great to see more international support to fight terrorism.   With Finland now a part of NATO  the alliance is that much stronger against the Russky terrorists. Exact opposite of Putin's stated objective.   yep    terrorist attack against ukraine in the name of halting nato has backfired  bigly Ultimately be the undoing of Russia and plausibly Bellarus also!

i dont see it ending well for russia at all      might be revisting the post ww2 war reparations again too   their economy is already hurting bigly and that just might take it down

 

 

 

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Quote Originally Posted by knockonwood:

US politicians want this war, next step!!!!! Pull Americans out and quit wasting your tax dollars and giving all out weapons away to a corrupt Country before America is taken over by the so called new world order......Biggest threat to America is China and democrats with a few fake Republicans.......You people keep trusting your government who controls media, yes even fox!!!!   I saw the headline and no I didn't read any responses from the brainwashed in this country...How bad is the air in your neighborhood why here??? Using climate change to sink your country but why is my coastal property the same level as 30 yrs ago??? America is very corrupt and they beat China and Russia in propaganda but you tune in to the news and trust what's said.....Trump will get my vote and truly give a rats ass what anyone here thinks...Try listening with your ears and quit trusting the view.....A reason for covid and governments saw how easy it is to control you people you're now losing your country and don't even know it......Unreal how brainwashed you grown men are!!!!!  And women here, you're so pitiful and brainwashed you're letting men take over being women and cheering for it.....What happened to that so call me too movement??? You're just another puppet having your strings pulled........I lived the American dream but feel truly sorry for you young people....Don't let this government take your money and don't wait for politicians and those pushing climate change getting rid of their waterfront property.....I see hunter with dad in Ireland your taxes are going up again.....I'm going fishing a while and watch that water rise!!!!   Knock!
Pssst hey knock,you mentioned your top 5 things you mention every post,but you forgot to throw in something about the view today.

 
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 Lol, they're kicking butt right now but you keep trustng your media and government......You people

 
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Another eight Leopard 2 tanks have delivered to Ukraine from Norway The Norwegian armed forces have confirmed the delivery of eight German Leopard II to Kyiv earlier today, which should bolster the Ukrainian offensives in coming months. Great to see more international support to fight terrorism.   With Finland now a part of NATO  the alliance is that much stronger against the Russky terrorists. Exact opposite of Putin's stated objective.   yep    terrorist attack against ukraine in the name of halting nato has backfired  bigly Ultimately be the undoing of Russia and plausibly Bellarus also!

i dont see it ending well for russia at all      might be revisting the post ww2 war reparations again too   their economy is already hurting bigly and that just might take it down

Correct imo.   Very unlikely.

 

 

 

 
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Yes he is correct . And it is highly unlikely . peace_5

But you don’t need to call him an emo . That kind of name calling has no place inside the realm of what could be categorized as a civilized conversation . But good point fubahpeace_5 

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Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

Quote Originally Posted by knockonwood: US politicians want this war, next step!!!!! Pull Americans out and quit wasting your tax dollars and giving all out weapons away to a corrupt Country before America is taken over by the so called new world order......Biggest threat to America is China and democrats with a few fake Republicans.......You people keep trusting your government who controls media, yes even fox!!!!   I saw the headline and no I didn't read any responses from the brainwashed in this country...How bad is the air in your neighborhood why here??? Using climate change to sink your country but why is my coastal property the same level as 30 yrs ago??? America is very corrupt and they beat China and Russia in propaganda but you tune in to the news and trust what's said.....Trump will get my vote and truly give a rats ass what anyone here thinks...

 

you mentioned your top 5 things you mention every post,but you forgot to throw in something about the view today.

heres the thing about magas - esp the many millions of magas who claim 2 b  christians ::

the preaching of christ  r clearly steeped in liberal ideology

if he were alive today and running for president as a dem opposing the criminal infidel fraud donnie chump

chump wouldnt lose a single vote

 

 

 

 

 

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Unlike Finland, Ukraine was never allowed to join NATO which might have prevented Russia invasion.   Myth is that Trump could have stopped Russia invasion.  For over a decade, Putin has been consumed by a desire to restore glory of old Soviet Union.   Trump's foreign policies weaken US global standing and strengthen enemies.  Appeasement only embolden their aggression.  Trump  hostility toward Europe has ultimately proven destructive in undermining the security of US, allies and Ukraine. 

 
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I’m no atheist , and I’m not the guy that they ask to go up onto the altar at the front of the church so that they can wash his feet either ….

 

But I’m fairly certain that Jesus Christ would win that Election in a landslide……peace_5

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 Lol, unreal

 
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No knock , he’s a real person . I think it’s just the mushrooms messing with you . Did you take just the stem ? Or the whole cap ? Buckle up partner ! It’s gonna be a hell of a ride !

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THIS JUST IN :

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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

Unlike Finland, Ukraine was never allowed to join NATO which might have prevented Russia invasion. 

  Myth is that Trump could have stopped Russia invasion. 

For over a decade, Putin has been consumed by a desire to restore glory of old Soviet Union.  

Trump's foreign policies weaken US global standing and strengthen enemies.  Appeasement only embolden their aggression. 

Trump  hostility toward Europe has ultimately proven destructive in undermining the security of US, allies and Ukraine.

 

1. Ukraine was not allowed to join NATO for a reason.......  CORRUPTION. 

2014; https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-ukraine-crisis-poroshenko/ridding-ukraine-of-corruption-is-vital-says-presidential-candidate-idUKBREA3507X20140406

2021; https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/558376-biden-ukraine-must-clean-up-corruption-to-be-admitted-to-nato/

That one above is a good one! Biden himself says Ukraine corrupt. But Joe, you set your son up with a high paying job there! an_lightSo now lets send billions without knowing where it's going. Lets pay for Ukrainian pensions!!!

2. NO MYTH. There is nothing in it for United States. Democrat Party wants revenge on Russia. When Dems fail its Russia's fault. We pay the price for Dems revenge. Ukrains lose their lives for Dems revenge. All could have been settled before any invasion.

3. Putin not some wacked out madman propaganda puts out. His replacement may be one. Dems can't see beyond the end of their nose, and many repubs too!

4. Trump hostility directed at SELF DEFEATING LIBERIAL POLICES in Europe. Many EU countries ignored NATO share of costs. Let the Americans pay. Germany laughs in Trumps face about Nordstream. Biden OK's it and then blows it up.

5. Democrat foreign policies results on full display! Japan buys Russian oil, Saudi Arabia refuses to answer the phone or even shake Biden's hand. China steps in as world leader calling for peace, aligning Saudi Arabia with Iran. Building pipeline to Russia. North Korea, who has a madman, ready to throw nukes. 

 
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You make some very interesting and thought provoking points sir peace_5

I will now look into this a bit further . You have my attention .

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Chinese defense minister Li Shangfu to meet Russian counterpart Sergei Shoigu in Moscow from April 16-18, according to the Reuters 

Russia and China have declared a "no limits" partnership" and have moved to further strengthen their economic, political and military ties since Moscow sent tens of thousands of troops into Ukraine in February 2022.*

*https://www.reuters.com/world/china-russia-defence-ministers-hold-security-talks-next-week-2023-04-14/

In the end of March, Ukraine president Volodymyr Zelenskyy has invited Chinese president Xi Jinping to visit Kyiv, will Xi accepts Zelenskyy? Very doubtful at best.  

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by knockonwood: US politicians want this war, next step!!!!! Pull Americans out and quit wasting your tax dollars and giving all out weapons away to a corrupt Country before America is taken over by the so called new world order......Biggest threat to America is China and democrats with a few fake Republicans.......You people keep trusting your government who controls media, yes even fox!!!!   I saw the headline and no I didn't read any responses from the brainwashed in this country...How bad is the air in your neighborhood why here??? Using climate change to sink your country but why is my coastal property the same level as 30 yrs ago??? America is very corrupt and they beat China and Russia in propaganda but you tune in to the news and trust what's said.....Trump will get my vote and truly give a rats ass what anyone here thinks...   you mentioned your top 5 things you mention every post,but you forgot to throw in something about the view today. heres the thing about magas - esp the many millions of magas who claim 2 b  christians :: the preaching of christ  r clearly steeped in liberal ideology if he were alive today and running for president as a dem opposing the criminal infidel fraud donnie chump chump wouldnt lose a single vote

 

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Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

Chinese defense minister Li Shangfu to meet Russian counterpart Sergei Shoigu in Moscow from April 16-18, according to the Reuters  Russia and China have declared a "no limits" partnership" and have moved to further strengthen their economic, political and military ties since Moscow sent tens of thousands of troops into Ukraine in February 2022.* *https://www.reuters.com/world/china-russia-defence-ministers-hold-security-talks-next-week-2023-04-14/ In the end of March, Ukraine president Volodymyr Zelenskyy has invited Chinese president Xi Jinping to visit Kyiv, will Xi accepts Zelenskyy? Very doubtful at best.

thxs   europa          ill b intrested to see what happens there  

 

 

 

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Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

Chinese defense minister Li Shangfu to meet Russian counterpart Sergei Shoigu in Moscow from April 16-18, according to the Reuters  Russia and China have declared a "no limits" partnership" and have moved to further strengthen their economic, political and military ties since Moscow sent tens of thousands of troops into Ukraine in February 2022.* *https://www.reuters.com/world/china-russia-defence-ministers-hold-security-talks-next-week-2023-04-14/ In the end of March, Ukraine president Volodymyr Zelenskyy has invited Chinese president Xi Jinping to visit Kyiv, will Xi accepts Zelenskyy? Very doubtful at best.

thxs   europa          ill b intrested to see what happens there  

 

 

 

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