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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2022 - 5:57 AM ET #1651

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: I believe russia invaded Ukraine to try and stop them from joining NATO,and stop them from further aligning themselves with western countries.At least that's what russia said,but they also insisted they wouldn't invade Ukraine,so I would take their word with a grain of salt.I believe that's just part of it,I think putin eventually wants to get back part of eastern Ukraine by taking the regions of Luhansk and Donetsk and bringing them back under russian control,like it was before the collapse of the Soviet Union.And if he's able to do that,I'm not sure he would stop there.I think his end goal would be to get back all of the country of Ukraine under russian control. He would have to admit he is wrong on his opinion that he is justified in invading another country,that was only looking to protect themselves (by talking about joining NATO) from the thing he is actually doing right now,attacking them.If I was a much smaller country(Ukraine) and a much bigger country(russia) kept threatening me,I also would look into protecting myself any way possible.  Nice read. Thanks for sharing. I don't think Putin would ever admit he's wrong, even if he is.

     

    He is preserving his strategic naval base and port superiority like every super power on earth to ever exist.... Not complicated. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: I believe russia invaded Ukraine to try and stop them from joining NATO,and stop them from further aligning themselves with western countries.At least that's what russia said,but they also insisted they wouldn't invade Ukraine,so I would take their word with a grain of salt.I believe that's just part of it,I think putin eventually wants to get back part of eastern Ukraine by taking the regions of Luhansk and Donetsk and bringing them back under russian control,like it was before the collapse of the Soviet Union.And if he's able to do that,I'm not sure he would stop there.I think his end goal would be to get back all of the country of Ukraine under russian control. He would have to admit he is wrong on his opinion that he is justified in invading another country,that was only looking to protect themselves (by talking about joining NATO) from the thing he is actually doing right now,attacking them.If I was a much smaller country(Ukraine) and a much bigger country(russia) kept threatening me,I also would look into protecting myself any way possible.  Nice read. Thanks for sharing. I don't think Putin would ever admit he's wrong, even if he is.

     

    He is preserving his strategic naval base and port superiority like every super power on earth to ever exist.... Not complicated. 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2022 - 10:39 PM ET #1652

    It’s probably not a coincidence that nord stream 1 and 2 were both sabotaged today, but let’s not be Russian to conclusions about who did it.

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    It’s probably not a coincidence that nord stream 1 and 2 were both sabotaged today, but let’s not be Russian to conclusions about who did it.

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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2022 - 10:54 PM ET #1653

    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

    You guys are such morons. Putin has Nuclear weapons on a higher scale than the United States by a mile.. He will end this fight in a split second. Biden declared war on all fossil fuels and of course Putin is now completely in charge as a result. Do you clowns understand anything?? read anything other than Facebook? Embarrassing in here.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

    You guys are such morons. Putin has Nuclear weapons on a higher scale than the United States by a mile.. He will end this fight in a split second. Biden declared war on all fossil fuels and of course Putin is now completely in charge as a result. Do you clowns understand anything?? read anything other than Facebook? Embarrassing in here.

     

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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2022 - 10:57 PM ET #1654

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:   Why is Russia there in the first place?  What does Putin want in Ukraine? What would he admit he's wrong about?

    What's the purpose of this "war"? Putin wants to restore the old Soviet union and overthrow Ukraine government.  He falsely claims special operation is to fight threats from NATO, nazis, bio labs and genocide.

    peace_5    all intelligent people understand at least that much . clearly his actions r not to protect a military base

    its not complicated

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:   Why is Russia there in the first place?  What does Putin want in Ukraine? What would he admit he's wrong about?

    What's the purpose of this "war"? Putin wants to restore the old Soviet union and overthrow Ukraine government.  He falsely claims special operation is to fight threats from NATO, nazis, bio labs and genocide.

    peace_5    all intelligent people understand at least that much . clearly his actions r not to protect a military base

    its not complicated

     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2022 - 11:50 PM ET #1655

    @ search 

     

    Exactly we're is the flag ship of the black sea fleet.

    . The Moscow. 

    .... 

    So now he is enlisting a slave army.

    Needs 300,000 draftees...

    What happen to his volunteers

     His mighty professional army...

    A bunch of wheat farmers with our outdated junk crushed his regiments....

    So this special military operations ....

    Destroyed Russians ability to engage war.

    All he has left is his nuclear capabilities....

    Touch NATO soil and we can vaporize Moscow

     

     

    What

     

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    Exactly we're is the flag ship of the black sea fleet.

    . The Moscow. 

    .... 

    So now he is enlisting a slave army.

    Needs 300,000 draftees...

    What happen to his volunteers

     His mighty professional army...

    A bunch of wheat farmers with our outdated junk crushed his regiments....

    So this special military operations ....

    Destroyed Russians ability to engage war.

    All he has left is his nuclear capabilities....

    Touch NATO soil and we can vaporize Moscow

     

     

    What

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2022 - 12:09 AM ET #1656

    OVD-Info said 724 people were detained across 32 different cities on Saturday.

    Widespread demonstrations have broken out since President Vladimir Putin announced plans to draft 300,000 men to fight in Ukraine.

    Unsanctioned rallies are banned under Russian law.

    But Mr Putin's move to draft civilians into the military has sparked large scale protests in urban areas, with more than 1,000 people being detained at demonstrations earlier this week.

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    OVD-Info said 724 people were detained across 32 different cities on Saturday.

    Widespread demonstrations have broken out since President Vladimir Putin announced plans to draft 300,000 men to fight in Ukraine.

    Unsanctioned rallies are banned under Russian law.

    But Mr Putin's move to draft civilians into the military has sparked large scale protests in urban areas, with more than 1,000 people being detained at demonstrations earlier this week.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2022 - 1:41 AM ET #1657

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    OVD-Info said 724 people were detained across 32 different cities on Saturday. Widespread demonstrations have broken out since President Vladimir Putin announced plans to draft 300,000 men to fight in Ukraine. Unsanctioned rallies are banned under Russian law. But Mr Putin's move to draft civilians into the military has sparked large scale protests in urban areas, with more than 1,000 people being detained at demonstrations earlier this week.

     

    Mass Russians exodus in the border of Georgia, these Russians fled from their homes only because of Vladimir Putin who instigates the unprovoked war against Ukraine. 

    "I don't want to die for Putin."--Russian demonstrator.   

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    OVD-Info said 724 people were detained across 32 different cities on Saturday. Widespread demonstrations have broken out since President Vladimir Putin announced plans to draft 300,000 men to fight in Ukraine. Unsanctioned rallies are banned under Russian law. But Mr Putin's move to draft civilians into the military has sparked large scale protests in urban areas, with more than 1,000 people being detained at demonstrations earlier this week.

     

    Mass Russians exodus in the border of Georgia, these Russians fled from their homes only because of Vladimir Putin who instigates the unprovoked war against Ukraine. 

    "I don't want to die for Putin."--Russian demonstrator.   

     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2022 - 9:25 AM ET #1658

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Russians fled from their homes only because of Vladimir Putin who instigates the unprovoked war against Ukraine.  "I don't want to die for Putin."--Russian demonstrator.

    British intelligence estimates that more Russians flee their home in recent days than the number fighting in Ukraine.  So far, over 400,000 Russians may have left since the beginning of invasion.  The better off and well educated tend to be over represented. Growing dissent in an unjustified war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Russians fled from their homes only because of Vladimir Putin who instigates the unprovoked war against Ukraine.  "I don't want to die for Putin."--Russian demonstrator.

    British intelligence estimates that more Russians flee their home in recent days than the number fighting in Ukraine.  So far, over 400,000 Russians may have left since the beginning of invasion.  The better off and well educated tend to be over represented. Growing dissent in an unjustified war.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2022 - 1:34 PM ET #1659

    Ukraine is applying for NATO membership, in fast-track. This will be huge if Ukraine should get nod to join NATO in quick fashion. 

    Zelensky requests fast-track Nato membership

    In Ukraine, President Zelensky has announced that he is requesting fast-track Nato membership after Vladimir Putin attempted to annex four Ukrainian regions.*

    *BBC News

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    Ukraine is applying for NATO membership, in fast-track. This will be huge if Ukraine should get nod to join NATO in quick fashion. 

    Zelensky requests fast-track Nato membership

    In Ukraine, President Zelensky has announced that he is requesting fast-track Nato membership after Vladimir Putin attempted to annex four Ukrainian regions.*

    *BBC News

     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2022 - 4:19 PM ET #1660

    All NATO members must agree . One black ball and not now.thumbs_down one says I have reservations... Then the membership will not be approved. Turkey .... Has a special channel with Russia and the west... 

    Such is reality.... Of the compass and square.

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    All NATO members must agree . One black ball and not now.thumbs_down one says I have reservations... Then the membership will not be approved. Turkey .... Has a special channel with Russia and the west... 

    Such is reality.... Of the compass and square.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2022 - 4:57 PM ET #1661

    In the mean time zele sky can recruit Russian defectors look what they did ... I'll give you land if we pull this off.... Hard to say no ...

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    In the mean time zele sky can recruit Russian defectors look what they did ... I'll give you land if we pull this off.... Hard to say no ...

     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2022 - 4:58 PM ET #1662

    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: I believe russia invaded Ukraine to try and stop them from joining NATO,and stop them from further aligning themselves with western countries.At least that's what russia said,but they also insisted they wouldn't invade Ukraine,so I would take their word with a grain of salt.I believe that's just part of it,I think putin eventually wants to get back part of eastern Ukraine by taking the regions of Luhansk and Donetsk and bringing them back under russian control,like it was before the collapse of the Soviet Union.And if he's able to do that,I'm not sure he would stop there.I think his end goal would be to get back all of the country of Ukraine under russian control. He would have to admit he is wrong on his opinion that he is justified in invading another country,that was only looking to protect themselves (by talking about joining NATO) from the thing he is actually doing right now,attacking them.If I was a much smaller country(Ukraine) and a much bigger country(russia) kept threatening me,I also would look into protecting myself any way possible.  Nice read. Thanks for sharing. I don't think Putin would ever admit he's wrong, even if he is.   He is preserving his strategic naval base and port superiority like every super power on earth to ever exist.... Not complicated.

    Awe cat got your tongue cuz....

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    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: I believe russia invaded Ukraine to try and stop them from joining NATO,and stop them from further aligning themselves with western countries.At least that's what russia said,but they also insisted they wouldn't invade Ukraine,so I would take their word with a grain of salt.I believe that's just part of it,I think putin eventually wants to get back part of eastern Ukraine by taking the regions of Luhansk and Donetsk and bringing them back under russian control,like it was before the collapse of the Soviet Union.And if he's able to do that,I'm not sure he would stop there.I think his end goal would be to get back all of the country of Ukraine under russian control. He would have to admit he is wrong on his opinion that he is justified in invading another country,that was only looking to protect themselves (by talking about joining NATO) from the thing he is actually doing right now,attacking them.If I was a much smaller country(Ukraine) and a much bigger country(russia) kept threatening me,I also would look into protecting myself any way possible.  Nice read. Thanks for sharing. I don't think Putin would ever admit he's wrong, even if he is.   He is preserving his strategic naval base and port superiority like every super power on earth to ever exist.... Not complicated.

    Awe cat got your tongue cuz....

     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2022 - 7:03 PM ET #1663

    New York Times says military effectiveness of today's massive Russian missile attack on Ukraine is zero. It will hardly make a serious impact on Ukrainian Army because the most of missiles hit civil infrastructure objects.

    Totally disagree.

    These bombing are intended to hit at the Ukrainian spirit & instill fear in citizens.

    In Viet Nam, our napalm bombings instilled fear as well as inflicting cruelty on anyone in it's path including women & children. They would hear the F100 jets coming & jump into pre-dug ditches in an attempt to escape the destruction.

    In war, there are no rules. People want to believe there are but they are wrong.

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    New York Times says military effectiveness of today's massive Russian missile attack on Ukraine is zero. It will hardly make a serious impact on Ukrainian Army because the most of missiles hit civil infrastructure objects.

    Totally disagree.

    These bombing are intended to hit at the Ukrainian spirit & instill fear in citizens.

    In Viet Nam, our napalm bombings instilled fear as well as inflicting cruelty on anyone in it's path including women & children. They would hear the F100 jets coming & jump into pre-dug ditches in an attempt to escape the destruction.

    In war, there are no rules. People want to believe there are but they are wrong.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2022 - 7:24 PM ET #1664

    Kill more Russians.... Keep up the good work and fight the good fight....

    UK weapon systems have arrived....peace_5

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    Kill more Russians.... Keep up the good work and fight the good fight....

    UK weapon systems have arrived....peace_5

     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2022 - 12:46 PM ET #1666

    raise your hand.... who thinks nuclear war is a just consequence of fighting Russia over a third rate shit country such as The Ukraine??  

    (my hand isn't raised) 

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    raise your hand.... who thinks nuclear war is a just consequence of fighting Russia over a third rate shit country such as The Ukraine??  

    (my hand isn't raised) 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    It’s probably not a coincidence that nord stream 1 and 2 were both sabotaged today, but let’s not be Russian to conclusions about who did it.

    why would Russia sabotage their own pipeline when all they need to do is "turn it off".  

    seriously... where is the logic in your inference??  

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    It’s probably not a coincidence that nord stream 1 and 2 were both sabotaged today, but let’s not be Russian to conclusions about who did it.

    why would Russia sabotage their own pipeline when all they need to do is "turn it off".  

    seriously... where is the logic in your inference??  

     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2022 - 12:49 PM ET #1668

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Kill more Russians.... Keep up the good work and fight the good fight.... UK weapon systems have arrived....

    that should help

    germany sent missle defense system now too

    usa to follow soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Kill more Russians.... Keep up the good work and fight the good fight.... UK weapon systems have arrived....

    that should help

    germany sent missle defense system now too

    usa to follow soon

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Kill more Russians.... Keep up the good work and fight the good fight.... UK weapon systems have arrived.... that should help germany sent missle defense system now too usa to follow soon

    Kelly's job around here is to ensure no dissident voices are left open as the last reply in any given thread.... aka.... he waits for the dissident voice to post then follows that up with some "I concur" bs from 15 hours ago just so he/they have the "last word" 

    comically sad attempt at being non-transparent.... but then again, algos only can function within their mathematical framework peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Kill more Russians.... Keep up the good work and fight the good fight.... UK weapon systems have arrived.... that should help germany sent missle defense system now too usa to follow soon

    Kelly's job around here is to ensure no dissident voices are left open as the last reply in any given thread.... aka.... he waits for the dissident voice to post then follows that up with some "I concur" bs from 15 hours ago just so he/they have the "last word" 

    comically sad attempt at being non-transparent.... but then again, algos only can function within their mathematical framework peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Kill more Russians.... Keep up the good work and fight the good fight.... UK weapon systems have arrived.... that should help germany sent missle defense system now too usa to follow soon

     

    Biden announced this yesterday.   Welcomed by not just Ukraine but the EU and NATO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Kill more Russians.... Keep up the good work and fight the good fight.... UK weapon systems have arrived.... that should help germany sent missle defense system now too usa to follow soon

     

    Biden announced this yesterday.   Welcomed by not just Ukraine but the EU and NATO!

     
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    @Midnight1

     sorry for dbl post, I didn't reply to you so I just wanted to make sure it was clear 

    Question:

    why would Russia sabotage their own pipeline when all they need to do is "turn it off".  

    seriously... where is the logic in your inference?? 

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    @Midnight1

     sorry for dbl post, I didn't reply to you so I just wanted to make sure it was clear 

    Question:

    why would Russia sabotage their own pipeline when all they need to do is "turn it off".  

    seriously... where is the logic in your inference?? 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Kill more Russians.... Keep up the good work and fight the good fight.... UK weapon systems have arrived.... that should help germany sent missle defense system now too usa to follow soon  

    Biden announced this yesterday.   Welcomed by not just Ukraine but the EU and NATO!

     

    the eu has made numerous statements recently denouncing russian aggression and supporting ukraine

    they r actively looking to bolster economic support

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Kill more Russians.... Keep up the good work and fight the good fight.... UK weapon systems have arrived.... that should help germany sent missle defense system now too usa to follow soon  

    Biden announced this yesterday.   Welcomed by not just Ukraine but the EU and NATO!

     

    the eu has made numerous statements recently denouncing russian aggression and supporting ukraine

    they r actively looking to bolster economic support

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Kill more Russians.... Keep up the good work and fight the good fight.... UK weapon systems have arrived.... that should help germany sent missle defense system now too usa to follow soon Kelly's job around here is to ensure no dissident voices are left open as the last reply in any given thread.... aka.... he waits for the dissident voice to post then follows that up with some "I concur" bs from 15 hours ago just so he/they have the "last word"  comically sad attempt at being non-transparent.... but then again, algos only can function within their mathematical framework

    right on cue Kell an_beatup

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Kill more Russians.... Keep up the good work and fight the good fight.... UK weapon systems have arrived.... that should help germany sent missle defense system now too usa to follow soon Kelly's job around here is to ensure no dissident voices are left open as the last reply in any given thread.... aka.... he waits for the dissident voice to post then follows that up with some "I concur" bs from 15 hours ago just so he/they have the "last word"  comically sad attempt at being non-transparent.... but then again, algos only can function within their mathematical framework

    right on cue Kell an_beatup

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Kill more Russians.... Keep up the good work and fight the good fight.... UK weapon systems have arrived.... that should help germany sent missle defense system now too usa to follow soon   Biden announced this yesterday.   Welcomed by not just Ukraine but the EU and NATO!   the eu has made numerous statements recently denouncing russian aggression and supporting ukraine they r actively looking to bolster economic support

    And Ukraine has expressed their desire for a fasttrack to NATO membership.

    There is now growing support for that position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Kill more Russians.... Keep up the good work and fight the good fight.... UK weapon systems have arrived.... that should help germany sent missle defense system now too usa to follow soon   Biden announced this yesterday.   Welcomed by not just Ukraine but the EU and NATO!   the eu has made numerous statements recently denouncing russian aggression and supporting ukraine they r actively looking to bolster economic support

    And Ukraine has expressed their desire for a fasttrack to NATO membership.

    There is now growing support for that position.

     
     
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    At United nations, 143 nations vote to condemn Russia annexation of Ukraine territory.  36 nations abstain and only 5 nations oppose the resolution.  Russia, Belarus, Nicaragua, Syria and North Korea.

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    At United nations, 143 nations vote to condemn Russia annexation of Ukraine territory.  36 nations abstain and only 5 nations oppose the resolution.  Russia, Belarus, Nicaragua, Syria and North Korea.

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