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    kcblitzkrieg
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2022 - 12:22 PM ET #1701

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Hitler rose to power because the WW1 Treaty of Versailles crushed the German economy. HEAVY SANCTIONS on Germany led the people to chose a radical leader. First thing Hitler did was use his power to eliminate opposition parties, sorta like Zelensky did long before Putin's invasion. Hitler then gained control of what the media said So did Zelensky. And so it is in Western media.  Biden, like Hitler, created a huge Build Back Better Plan. Hitler built the Autobans, huge government projects. But unlike Hitler, Biden doesn't have the brain to make us stronger, thank goodness.  Boot licking, goose stepping Nazis were once ordinary people but now praised Hitler at every turn, ignored the obvious warning signs. Drowned out those with opposing views. Labeled them as the dangerous. It's happening again people, and let me remind you Nazi's were white in the 1940's, they come in all colors now.

    the algo farm army here does not concern themselves with HISTORY lessons such as this.  Their narrow, smooth surfaced brains do not allow them to be able to process simple FACTS that cannot be argued within the realm of history.  They are only capable of copy & pasting, regurgitation of the message their smooth brains allow.  

    I appreciate you trying to help them.  We will do it together.  Godspeed.  Even if we only save one soul that may wander into the politics sub, that is one more saved soul than a lost...peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Hitler rose to power because the WW1 Treaty of Versailles crushed the German economy. HEAVY SANCTIONS on Germany led the people to chose a radical leader. First thing Hitler did was use his power to eliminate opposition parties, sorta like Zelensky did long before Putin's invasion. Hitler then gained control of what the media said So did Zelensky. And so it is in Western media.  Biden, like Hitler, created a huge Build Back Better Plan. Hitler built the Autobans, huge government projects. But unlike Hitler, Biden doesn't have the brain to make us stronger, thank goodness.  Boot licking, goose stepping Nazis were once ordinary people but now praised Hitler at every turn, ignored the obvious warning signs. Drowned out those with opposing views. Labeled them as the dangerous. It's happening again people, and let me remind you Nazi's were white in the 1940's, they come in all colors now.

    the algo farm army here does not concern themselves with HISTORY lessons such as this.  Their narrow, smooth surfaced brains do not allow them to be able to process simple FACTS that cannot be argued within the realm of history.  They are only capable of copy & pasting, regurgitation of the message their smooth brains allow.  

    I appreciate you trying to help them.  We will do it together.  Godspeed.  Even if we only save one soul that may wander into the politics sub, that is one more saved soul than a lost...peace_5

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2022 - 12:41 PM ET #1702

    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Hitler rose to power because the WW1 Treaty of Versailles crushed the German economy. HEAVY SANCTIONS on Germany led the people to chose a radical leader. First thing Hitler did was use his power to eliminate opposition parties, sorta like Zelensky did long before Putin's invasion. Hitler then gained control of what the media said So did Zelensky. And so it is in Western media.  Biden, like Hitler, created a huge Build Back Better Plan. Hitler built the Autobans, huge government projects. But unlike Hitler, Biden doesn't have the brain to make us stronger, thank goodness.  Boot licking, goose stepping Nazis were once ordinary people but now praised Hitler at every turn, ignored the obvious warning signs. Drowned out those with opposing views. Labeled them as the dangerous. It's happening again people, and let me remind you Nazi's were white in the 1940's, they come in all colors now. the algo farm army here does not concern themselves with HISTORY lessons such as this.  Their narrow, smooth surfaced brains do not allow them to be able to process simple FACTS that cannot be argued within the realm of history.  They are only capable of copy & pasting, regurgitation of the message their smooth brains allow.   I appreciate you trying to help them.  We will do it together.  Godspeed.  Even if we only save one soul that may wander into the politics sub, that is one more saved soul than a lost...

     

    That is the best we can hope for, I'm sure. 

    Actual factual debate not available here, too easy to present facts and then watch the ignorant back patting. It's their way of trying to discourage input by not engaging and that just keeps me pushing. cool Everytime I see a quote copied, bolded, colorized and applauded I know my post hit home. an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Hitler rose to power because the WW1 Treaty of Versailles crushed the German economy. HEAVY SANCTIONS on Germany led the people to chose a radical leader. First thing Hitler did was use his power to eliminate opposition parties, sorta like Zelensky did long before Putin's invasion. Hitler then gained control of what the media said So did Zelensky. And so it is in Western media.  Biden, like Hitler, created a huge Build Back Better Plan. Hitler built the Autobans, huge government projects. But unlike Hitler, Biden doesn't have the brain to make us stronger, thank goodness.  Boot licking, goose stepping Nazis were once ordinary people but now praised Hitler at every turn, ignored the obvious warning signs. Drowned out those with opposing views. Labeled them as the dangerous. It's happening again people, and let me remind you Nazi's were white in the 1940's, they come in all colors now. the algo farm army here does not concern themselves with HISTORY lessons such as this.  Their narrow, smooth surfaced brains do not allow them to be able to process simple FACTS that cannot be argued within the realm of history.  They are only capable of copy & pasting, regurgitation of the message their smooth brains allow.   I appreciate you trying to help them.  We will do it together.  Godspeed.  Even if we only save one soul that may wander into the politics sub, that is one more saved soul than a lost...

     

    That is the best we can hope for, I'm sure. 

    Actual factual debate not available here, too easy to present facts and then watch the ignorant back patting. It's their way of trying to discourage input by not engaging and that just keeps me pushing. cool Everytime I see a quote copied, bolded, colorized and applauded I know my post hit home. an_light

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2022 - 1:09 PM ET #1703

    @UNIMAN

     

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

      That is the best we can hope for, I'm sure.  Actual factual debate not available here, too easy to present facts and then watch the ignorant back patting. It's their way of trying to discourage input by not engaging and that just keeps me pushing.  Everytime I see a quote copied, bolded, colorized and applauded I know my post hit home.

     

    So true and so unfortunate.  I really do feel sorry for those smooth brained folks who are unable to have a conversation based on simple logic and facts.  I can't really comprehend why someone would want to live a life ignorant of the reality they actually live in.  sad.  anyway...

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

      That is the best we can hope for, I'm sure.  Actual factual debate not available here, too easy to present facts and then watch the ignorant back patting. It's their way of trying to discourage input by not engaging and that just keeps me pushing.  Everytime I see a quote copied, bolded, colorized and applauded I know my post hit home.

     

    So true and so unfortunate.  I really do feel sorry for those smooth brained folks who are unable to have a conversation based on simple logic and facts.  I can't really comprehend why someone would want to live a life ignorant of the reality they actually live in.  sad.  anyway...

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2022 - 1:39 PM ET #1704

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Not just Ukraine.  Without ongoing US assistance Ukraine will fall, much like Poland did in 1939, under similar fascist aggression. Then there will be an escalated war in Europe becoming WW3. The assistance must continue to prevent WW3  

      Great analogy, without U.S. and allies' assistance, Poland fell in 1939 to the Nazi Germany. It emboldened the Nazi to invade most of the Eastern European countries since then, and that included the Soviet Union. Putin's aggression against Ukraine resembles Hitler's in the late 1930's and early 40's. Nowadays, Poles are one of the sturdiest people in supporting Ukrainians in this war.  Ukraine surely has it's deep anxiety and concern if the aides from US being slashed if Republicans retake one or both chamber(s) of Congress.

     

     

    Fascism, like Putin's and Trump's MAGA cult, not unlike murder and other crimes, will always be in this world.

    Point is we must continue to push back and fight it, not just give up and let society fall into total anarchy, leading directly to the end of life as we know it.

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Not just Ukraine.  Without ongoing US assistance Ukraine will fall, much like Poland did in 1939, under similar fascist aggression. Then there will be an escalated war in Europe becoming WW3. The assistance must continue to prevent WW3  

      Great analogy, without U.S. and allies' assistance, Poland fell in 1939 to the Nazi Germany. It emboldened the Nazi to invade most of the Eastern European countries since then, and that included the Soviet Union. Putin's aggression against Ukraine resembles Hitler's in the late 1930's and early 40's. Nowadays, Poles are one of the sturdiest people in supporting Ukrainians in this war.  Ukraine surely has it's deep anxiety and concern if the aides from US being slashed if Republicans retake one or both chamber(s) of Congress.

     

     

    Fascism, like Putin's and Trump's MAGA cult, not unlike murder and other crimes, will always be in this world.

    Point is we must continue to push back and fight it, not just give up and let society fall into total anarchy, leading directly to the end of life as we know it.

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2022 - 1:47 PM ET #1705

    Just like inflation is transitory... 

    Indoctrination... control media... weaken police...

    It's live here now in the present... just like what the nazis did...joe is using hitler's playbook... gestapo joe..

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    Just like inflation is transitory... 

    Indoctrination... control media... weaken police...

    It's live here now in the present... just like what the nazis did...joe is using hitler's playbook... gestapo joe..

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2022 - 1:49 PM ET #1706

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: 

    Ukraine surely has it's deep anxiety and concern if the aides from US being slashed if Republicans retake one or both chamber(s) of Congress.    

     

     

     

    Fascism, like Putin's and Trump's MAGA cult, not unlike murder and other crimes, will always be in this world.

    Point is we must continue to push back and fight it, not just give up and let society fall into total anarchy, leading directly to the end of life as we know it.

     

    Have to keep fighting it.  Foreign and DOMESTIC!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: 

    Ukraine surely has it's deep anxiety and concern if the aides from US being slashed if Republicans retake one or both chamber(s) of Congress.    

     

     

     

    Fascism, like Putin's and Trump's MAGA cult, not unlike murder and other crimes, will always be in this world.

    Point is we must continue to push back and fight it, not just give up and let society fall into total anarchy, leading directly to the end of life as we know it.

     

    Have to keep fighting it.  Foreign and DOMESTIC!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2022 - 3:47 PM ET #1707

    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    just like what the nazis did...joe is using hitler's playbook... gestapo joe..

    There is no such thing as fascism on the American left.  Fascism is a far right ideology on the political spectrum.  Characterized by centralized autocracy, ultra nationalism,  glorification of violence, racism and belief in social hierarchy.  Fascists are opposed to anarchism, democracy, pluralism, liberalism and socialism.  Biden is right to call MAGA republicans semi-fascist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    just like what the nazis did...joe is using hitler's playbook... gestapo joe..

    There is no such thing as fascism on the American left.  Fascism is a far right ideology on the political spectrum.  Characterized by centralized autocracy, ultra nationalism,  glorification of violence, racism and belief in social hierarchy.  Fascists are opposed to anarchism, democracy, pluralism, liberalism and socialism.  Biden is right to call MAGA republicans semi-fascist.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2022 - 3:59 PM ET #1708

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     cheese and rice...man, can you please at least copy & paste the DEFINITION of facism and NOT your BS imaginary reality of the defined term...here, let me help you again...

    per Merriam Webster's DICTIONARY:

    a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

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     cheese and rice...man, can you please at least copy & paste the DEFINITION of facism and NOT your BS imaginary reality of the defined term...here, let me help you again...

    per Merriam Webster's DICTIONARY:

    a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2022 - 4:05 PM ET #1709

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Not just Ukraine.  Without ongoing US assistance Ukraine will fall, much like Poland did in 1939, under similar fascist aggression. Then there will be an escalated war in Europe becoming WW3. The assistance must continue to prevent WW3     Great analogy, without U.S. and allies' assistance, Poland fell in 1939 to the Nazi Germany. It emboldened the Nazi to invade most of the Eastern European countries since then, and that included the Soviet Union. Putin's aggression against Ukraine resembles Hitler's in the late 1930's and early 40's. Nowadays, Poles are one of the sturdiest people in supporting Ukrainians in this war.  Ukraine surely has it's deep anxiety and concern if the aides from US being slashed if Republicans retake one or both chamber(s) of Congress.  

      Fascism, like Putin's and Trump's MAGA cult, not unlike murder and other crimes, will always be in this world. Point is we must continue to push back and fight it, not just give up and let society fall into total anarchy, leading directly to the end of life as we know it.

     

    with the rise of populism it could b only a matter of time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Not just Ukraine.  Without ongoing US assistance Ukraine will fall, much like Poland did in 1939, under similar fascist aggression. Then there will be an escalated war in Europe becoming WW3. The assistance must continue to prevent WW3     Great analogy, without U.S. and allies' assistance, Poland fell in 1939 to the Nazi Germany. It emboldened the Nazi to invade most of the Eastern European countries since then, and that included the Soviet Union. Putin's aggression against Ukraine resembles Hitler's in the late 1930's and early 40's. Nowadays, Poles are one of the sturdiest people in supporting Ukrainians in this war.  Ukraine surely has it's deep anxiety and concern if the aides from US being slashed if Republicans retake one or both chamber(s) of Congress.  

      Fascism, like Putin's and Trump's MAGA cult, not unlike murder and other crimes, will always be in this world. Point is we must continue to push back and fight it, not just give up and let society fall into total anarchy, leading directly to the end of life as we know it.

     

    with the rise of populism it could b only a matter of time

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    Just like inflation is transitory...  Indoctrination... control media... weaken police... It's live here now in the present... just like what the nazis did...joe is using hitler's playbook... gestapo joe..

    Weaken local police and then send in federal police. Watch for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    Just like inflation is transitory...  Indoctrination... control media... weaken police... It's live here now in the present... just like what the nazis did...joe is using hitler's playbook... gestapo joe..

    Weaken local police and then send in federal police. Watch for it.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2022 - 4:26 PM ET #1711

    Redefine words to suit your needs.... fact is gestapo joe is doing exactly what Hitler did...

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    Redefine words to suit your needs.... fact is gestapo joe is doing exactly what Hitler did...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos: just like what the nazis did...joe is using hitler's playbook... gestapo joe..

     

     

    There is no such thing as fascism on the American left. 

    Fascism is a far right ideology on the political spectrum.  Characterized by centralized autocracy, ultra nationalism,  glorification of violence, racism and belief in social hierarchy.  Fascists are opposed to anarchism, democracy, pluralism, liberalism and socialism. 

    Biden is right to call MAGA republicans semi-fascist.

     

    Precisely, Thirdperson! peace_5

    While there is some disagreement among scholars about fascism, the general consensus is in fact just as you described.

    Joe Biden is correct.

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos: just like what the nazis did...joe is using hitler's playbook... gestapo joe..

     

     

    There is no such thing as fascism on the American left. 

    Fascism is a far right ideology on the political spectrum.  Characterized by centralized autocracy, ultra nationalism,  glorification of violence, racism and belief in social hierarchy.  Fascists are opposed to anarchism, democracy, pluralism, liberalism and socialism. 

    Biden is right to call MAGA republicans semi-fascist.

     

    Precisely, Thirdperson! peace_5

    While there is some disagreement among scholars about fascism, the general consensus is in fact just as you described.

    Joe Biden is correct.

     

     

     

     

     
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     No, not without a doubt. 

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     No, not without a doubt. 

     
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    "The heaviest battle" between Ukrainian and Russian forces may take place soon at Kherson, Ukraine, according to the Reuters*

    *https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-hits-ukraine-homes-evacuates-kherson-warns-escalation-2022-10-24/

    The battle of Kherson could very well decide the fate of Southern Ukraine, including Crimea.  

    Slava UKraini, Glory to Ukraine! 

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    "The heaviest battle" between Ukrainian and Russian forces may take place soon at Kherson, Ukraine, according to the Reuters*

    *https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-hits-ukraine-homes-evacuates-kherson-warns-escalation-2022-10-24/

    The battle of Kherson could very well decide the fate of Southern Ukraine, including Crimea.  

    Slava UKraini, Glory to Ukraine! 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2022 - 10:44 AM ET #1715

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: People of the Ukraine should be very concerned regarding our elections in November. Our assistance/support could change drastically. Not just Ukraine.  Without ongoing US assistance Ukraine will fall, much like Poland did in 1939, under similar fascist aggression. Then there will be an escalated war in Europe becoming WW3. The assistance must continue to prevent WW3

    Polls show most Americans support Ukraine.  Cutting all military aid would be politically disastrous.  If Ukraine falls, baltic countries may be next targets for Putin ambition.  Success could encourage more aggression.  In domino effect, China might even be emboldened to attack Taiwan.  History shows appeasement is a temporary fix that failed to prevent world war II and Russian invasion of Ukraine after earlier seizing Crimea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: People of the Ukraine should be very concerned regarding our elections in November. Our assistance/support could change drastically. Not just Ukraine.  Without ongoing US assistance Ukraine will fall, much like Poland did in 1939, under similar fascist aggression. Then there will be an escalated war in Europe becoming WW3. The assistance must continue to prevent WW3

    Polls show most Americans support Ukraine.  Cutting all military aid would be politically disastrous.  If Ukraine falls, baltic countries may be next targets for Putin ambition.  Success could encourage more aggression.  In domino effect, China might even be emboldened to attack Taiwan.  History shows appeasement is a temporary fix that failed to prevent world war II and Russian invasion of Ukraine after earlier seizing Crimea.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2022 - 2:21 AM ET #1716

    101st Airborne Division is deployed in Romania, only 5 miles from the Ukrainian border, per CBS report.

    The Biden Administration has resolved to show the sturdy support for the NATO as well as Ukraine, and warning to our adversaries.      

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    101st Airborne Division is deployed in Romania, only 5 miles from the Ukrainian border, per CBS report.

    The Biden Administration has resolved to show the sturdy support for the NATO as well as Ukraine, and warning to our adversaries.      

     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2022 - 12:22 PM ET #1717

    When this is over & it will end, the world will be further exposed to the horrors of war. Sights of barbaric nature will be etched in the minds of many & those visions will stay with them forever.

    It's atrocious what one can do to another.

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    When this is over & it will end, the world will be further exposed to the horrors of war. Sights of barbaric nature will be etched in the minds of many & those visions will stay with them forever.

    It's atrocious what one can do to another.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    101st Airborne Division is deployed in Romania, only 5 miles from the Ukrainian border, per CBS report. The Biden Administration has resolved to show the sturdy support for the NATO as well as Ukraine, and warning to our adversaries.

     

    as we should

     

    if we dont learn from history (WWII )  we  r doomed to repeat it

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    101st Airborne Division is deployed in Romania, only 5 miles from the Ukrainian border, per CBS report. The Biden Administration has resolved to show the sturdy support for the NATO as well as Ukraine, and warning to our adversaries.

     

    as we should

     

    if we dont learn from history (WWII )  we  r doomed to repeat it

     
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    @KellyM_1964

    So we learned a lesson from WWII...  

    Please tell us what lesson we learned from....

    Korea
    Vietnam
    Iraq
    Afghanistan 

    (silence)  

    You will not survive here. You are not a wolf, and this is the land of wolves now...
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    So we learned a lesson from WWII...  

    Please tell us what lesson we learned from....

    Korea
    Vietnam
    Iraq
    Afghanistan 

    (silence)  

     
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    IMO it's a very simple answer....

    When you engage in a half hearted war & end it in peace without victory, you've accomplished nothing other than the waste of young lives.

     

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    IMO it's a very simple answer....

    When you engage in a half hearted war & end it in peace without victory, you've accomplished nothing other than the waste of young lives.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @kcblitzkrieg IMO it's a very simple answer.... When you engage in a half hearted war & end it in peace without victory, you've accomplished nothing other than the waste of young lives.

    well said mid, well said....  although our good buddies Kelly and Fupa I suspect would have a different answer, hence, the question posed to Kelly... 

     

    he/she/him/her/they/them - using "the good fight" argument with regards to WWII support vs. US support to Ukraine.  Hitler = Putin, ya know, the same old song and dance...as a student of history, the lessons learned in WHY were got involved with Vietnam - stop communism (sound familiar??), Iraq - weapons of mass destruction (LIES, FALSE), and Afghanistan - going after 9/11 terrorists (Nope, they were almost all SAUDIs)

    You will not survive here. You are not a wolf, and this is the land of wolves now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @kcblitzkrieg IMO it's a very simple answer.... When you engage in a half hearted war & end it in peace without victory, you've accomplished nothing other than the waste of young lives.

    well said mid, well said....  although our good buddies Kelly and Fupa I suspect would have a different answer, hence, the question posed to Kelly... 

     

    he/she/him/her/they/them - using "the good fight" argument with regards to WWII support vs. US support to Ukraine.  Hitler = Putin, ya know, the same old song and dance...as a student of history, the lessons learned in WHY were got involved with Vietnam - stop communism (sound familiar??), Iraq - weapons of mass destruction (LIES, FALSE), and Afghanistan - going after 9/11 terrorists (Nope, they were almost all SAUDIs)

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @kcblitzkrieg IMO it's a very simple answer.... When you engage in a half hearted war & end it in peace without victory, you've accomplished nothing other than the waste of young lives.

     

    @Midnight1         peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @kcblitzkrieg IMO it's a very simple answer.... When you engage in a half hearted war & end it in peace without victory, you've accomplished nothing other than the waste of young lives.

     

    @Midnight1         peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    The Biden Administration has resolved to show the sturdy support for the NATO as well as Ukraine, and warning to our adversaries.

     

    Inflation around the world had risen due to the supply chain issues resulting directly from the global pandemic and recovery.  But it was at least manageable until Russia attacked Ukraine.  Then the skyrocket began. We help Ukraine and European allies put an end to this senseless war that threatens to escalate into WWIII because of Putin, and inflation likely falls significantly for every nation hurt by it, including us.  If the war lingers, worldwide inflation remains higher than it would otherwise. In the US, which political party would benefit if Ukraine suffers setbacks and Putin's war lingers, keeping inflation high going into our 2024 elections?

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    The Biden Administration has resolved to show the sturdy support for the NATO as well as Ukraine, and warning to our adversaries.

     

    Inflation around the world had risen due to the supply chain issues resulting directly from the global pandemic and recovery.  But it was at least manageable until Russia attacked Ukraine.  Then the skyrocket began. We help Ukraine and European allies put an end to this senseless war that threatens to escalate into WWIII because of Putin, and inflation likely falls significantly for every nation hurt by it, including us.  If the war lingers, worldwide inflation remains higher than it would otherwise. In the US, which political party would benefit if Ukraine suffers setbacks and Putin's war lingers, keeping inflation high going into our 2024 elections?

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2022 - 3:33 PM ET #1724

    Historians think the Ukraine war is becoming Putin's Vietnam or Afghanistan.  Korean war is probably the closest parallel to Russian war on Ukraine because of the revival of NATO and cold war.

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    Historians think the Ukraine war is becoming Putin's Vietnam or Afghanistan.  Korean war is probably the closest parallel to Russian war on Ukraine because of the revival of NATO and cold war.

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    When this is over & it will end, the world will be further exposed to the horrors of war. Sights of barbaric nature will be etched in the minds of many & those visions will stay with them forever. It's atrocious what one can do to another.

    "War!!   (God gawd y'all)  What is it good for?  Absolutely nothing! Say it again!"

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    When this is over & it will end, the world will be further exposed to the horrors of war. Sights of barbaric nature will be etched in the minds of many & those visions will stay with them forever. It's atrocious what one can do to another.

    "War!!   (God gawd y'all)  What is it good for?  Absolutely nothing! Say it again!"

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