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    Posted: Apr. 2, 2022 - 1:00 PM ET #876

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: The war is being framed as a disaster for Russia. So far, war is a disaster for both Russia and Ukraine.  Obviously, Putin badly miscalculated by repeating similar mistakes as Hitler.  According to Institute for study of war, Russia has changed its plans after failure of initial campaign to capture cities.  Oddly, Russian military has under achieved while Ukraine is more resistant than expected.  Still, no one knows how the war will end.

    I agree, Putin is the fault guy to start this war. Russian people can decide how and when this war will end. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: The war is being framed as a disaster for Russia. So far, war is a disaster for both Russia and Ukraine.  Obviously, Putin badly miscalculated by repeating similar mistakes as Hitler.  According to Institute for study of war, Russia has changed its plans after failure of initial campaign to capture cities.  Oddly, Russian military has under achieved while Ukraine is more resistant than expected.  Still, no one knows how the war will end.

    I agree, Putin is the fault guy to start this war. Russian people can decide how and when this war will end. 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 2, 2022 - 9:34 PM ET #877

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    "Super modern" military equipment is on the way from the United States and Britain, says Sergiy Korsunsky, Ukraine's ambassador to Japan. https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-03-31/ukraine-will-soon-be-able-to-better-protect-its-skies-envoy-to-japan The long range missiles dominated by the Russian forces over Ukrainian sky will tip over to the Ukrainian side soon, great news. Ukrainian forces will be capable of shooting down Russian cruise missiles with the "super modern" equipment.

     

    terrific news     europa peace_5

    ukraine needs to achieve at least a stalemate and truce with an end to hostilities , including cyber , for multiple reasons but the most important to the american consumer is that sanctions would sooner or later relax , the markets would stabilize then heat up again , and our inflation will receed somewhat

    if russia wins     its total chaos     and even more sanctions   and more inflation to us  we could expect gas prices to rise much higher   assuming putin doesnt start a nuclear war

    that dude is almost as dangerous & looney tunes as trump        so it could happen

    then gas prices will b the least of any concern

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    "Super modern" military equipment is on the way from the United States and Britain, says Sergiy Korsunsky, Ukraine's ambassador to Japan. https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-03-31/ukraine-will-soon-be-able-to-better-protect-its-skies-envoy-to-japan The long range missiles dominated by the Russian forces over Ukrainian sky will tip over to the Ukrainian side soon, great news. Ukrainian forces will be capable of shooting down Russian cruise missiles with the "super modern" equipment.

     

    terrific news     europa peace_5

    ukraine needs to achieve at least a stalemate and truce with an end to hostilities , including cyber , for multiple reasons but the most important to the american consumer is that sanctions would sooner or later relax , the markets would stabilize then heat up again , and our inflation will receed somewhat

    if russia wins     its total chaos     and even more sanctions   and more inflation to us  we could expect gas prices to rise much higher   assuming putin doesnt start a nuclear war

    that dude is almost as dangerous & looney tunes as trump        so it could happen

    then gas prices will b the least of any concern

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 2, 2022 - 11:49 PM ET #878

    Blaming Russia for inflation 

     

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    Blaming Russia for inflation 

     

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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2022 - 12:02 AM ET #879

    resident 9-11 denier thinks russia is being blamed for inflation !   lol

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    resident 9-11 denier thinks russia is being blamed for inflation !   lol

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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2022 - 2:10 AM ET #880

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: "Super modern" military equipment is on the way from the United States and Britain, says Sergiy Korsunsky, Ukraine's ambassador to Japan. https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-03-31/ukraine-will-soon-be-able-to-better-protect-its-skies-envoy-to-japan The long range missiles dominated by the Russian forces over Ukrainian sky will tip over to the Ukrainian side soon, great news. Ukrainian forces will be capable of shooting down Russian cruise missiles with the "super modern" equipment.   terrific news     europa ukraine needs to achieve at least a stalemate and truce with an end to hostilities , including cyber , for multiple reasons but the most important to the american consumer is that sanctions would sooner or later relax , the markets would stabilize then heat up again , and our inflation will receed somewhat if russia wins     its total chaos     and even more sanctions   and more inflation to us  we could expect gas prices to rise much higher   assuming putin doesnt start a nuclear war that dude is almost as dangerous & looney tunes as trump        so it could happen then gas prices will b the least of any concern

    Aussies' aid is on the way to Ukrainian forces as well. Bushmasters, armored vehicles will be sent by C-17 Globemaster, says Scott Morrison, Prime Minister of Australia, per AP News. 

    The Western countries have united and determined to support Ukraine by defeating Vladimir Putin's invasion in which Donald J. Trump has called genius. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: "Super modern" military equipment is on the way from the United States and Britain, says Sergiy Korsunsky, Ukraine's ambassador to Japan. https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-03-31/ukraine-will-soon-be-able-to-better-protect-its-skies-envoy-to-japan The long range missiles dominated by the Russian forces over Ukrainian sky will tip over to the Ukrainian side soon, great news. Ukrainian forces will be capable of shooting down Russian cruise missiles with the "super modern" equipment.   terrific news     europa ukraine needs to achieve at least a stalemate and truce with an end to hostilities , including cyber , for multiple reasons but the most important to the american consumer is that sanctions would sooner or later relax , the markets would stabilize then heat up again , and our inflation will receed somewhat if russia wins     its total chaos     and even more sanctions   and more inflation to us  we could expect gas prices to rise much higher   assuming putin doesnt start a nuclear war that dude is almost as dangerous & looney tunes as trump        so it could happen then gas prices will b the least of any concern

    Aussies' aid is on the way to Ukrainian forces as well. Bushmasters, armored vehicles will be sent by C-17 Globemaster, says Scott Morrison, Prime Minister of Australia, per AP News. 

    The Western countries have united and determined to support Ukraine by defeating Vladimir Putin's invasion in which Donald J. Trump has called genius. 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2022 - 8:58 AM ET #881

    Conflicting reports

    Putin and Ukrainian president scheduled a sit down soon to end the conflict in Ukraine. 

     

    Ukrainian negotiator David Arakhamia, who told Ukrainian television on Saturday that the preliminary agreement between the two countries was sufficient grounds for Zelensky and Putin to speak, according to Reuters.

    “Unfortunately, I don’t share Arakhamia’s optimism,” Medinsky said, according to the news wire. “Moreover, Ukrainian diplomatic and military experts lag far behind on confirming even those agreements which were already reached at the political level on the draft text.”

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    Putin and Ukrainian president scheduled a sit down soon to end the conflict in Ukraine. 

     

    Ukrainian negotiator David Arakhamia, who told Ukrainian television on Saturday that the preliminary agreement between the two countries was sufficient grounds for Zelensky and Putin to speak, according to Reuters.

    “Unfortunately, I don’t share Arakhamia’s optimism,” Medinsky said, according to the news wire. “Moreover, Ukrainian diplomatic and military experts lag far behind on confirming even those agreements which were already reached at the political level on the draft text.”

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2022 - 1:06 PM ET #882

    Some more anti tank weaponry are or on the way to the Ukrainian forces, 10 anti tank systems for every Russian tank, says Tony Blinken, Secretary of State.*

    *https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-04-03/images-of-dead-in-ukrainian-town-of-bucha-a-punch-in-gut-says-blinken

    10 for 1, it appears that the West has vowed to pulverize Russian tanks in this war. 

     

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    Some more anti tank weaponry are or on the way to the Ukrainian forces, 10 anti tank systems for every Russian tank, says Tony Blinken, Secretary of State.*

    *https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-04-03/images-of-dead-in-ukrainian-town-of-bucha-a-punch-in-gut-says-blinken

    10 for 1, it appears that the West has vowed to pulverize Russian tanks in this war. 

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2022 - 3:45 PM ET #883

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Some more anti tank weaponry are or on the way to the Ukrainian forces, 10 anti tank systems for every Russian tank, says Tony Blinken, Secretary of State.* *https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-04-03/images-of-dead-in-ukrainian-town-of-bucha-a-punch-in-gut-says-blinken 10 for 1, it appears that the West has vowed to pulverize Russian tanks in this war.

    No, the West has vowed to pad the pockets of defense contractors. This vow has existed for quite some time.

    I don't watch much new but I was at a friend's house this past week who constantly watches the news. I saw Zalensky asking for 500 javelins and 500 stingers a day. So I googled the price of these weapons systems. It's insanity. Most wars, most skirmishes, of which there are several involving the US at any given time that aren't covered by the media, most are to accomplish two things. Regime changes and funneling tax dollars, unchecked, into the pockets of a select few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Some more anti tank weaponry are or on the way to the Ukrainian forces, 10 anti tank systems for every Russian tank, says Tony Blinken, Secretary of State.* *https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-04-03/images-of-dead-in-ukrainian-town-of-bucha-a-punch-in-gut-says-blinken 10 for 1, it appears that the West has vowed to pulverize Russian tanks in this war.

    No, the West has vowed to pad the pockets of defense contractors. This vow has existed for quite some time.

    I don't watch much new but I was at a friend's house this past week who constantly watches the news. I saw Zalensky asking for 500 javelins and 500 stingers a day. So I googled the price of these weapons systems. It's insanity. Most wars, most skirmishes, of which there are several involving the US at any given time that aren't covered by the media, most are to accomplish two things. Regime changes and funneling tax dollars, unchecked, into the pockets of a select few.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2022 - 4:31 PM ET #884

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Some more anti tank weaponry are or on the way to the Ukrainian forces, 10 anti tank systems for every Russian tank, says Tony Blinken, Secretary of State.* *https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-04-03/images-of-dead-in-ukrainian-town-of-bucha-a-punch-in-gut-says-blinken 10 for 1, it appears that the West has vowed to pulverize Russian tanks in this war. No, the West has vowed to pad the pockets of defense contractors. This vow has existed for quite some time. I don't watch much new but I was at a friend's house this past week who constantly watches the news. I saw Zalensky asking for 500 javelins and 500 stingers a day. So I googled the price of these weapons systems. It's insanity. Most wars, most skirmishes, of which there are several involving the US at any given time that aren't covered by the media, most are to accomplish two things. Regime changes and funneling tax dollars, unchecked, into the pockets of a select few.

    That is over 100 million dollars per day to defense contractors and I am counting only javelin missiles not the complete system. And the stingers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Some more anti tank weaponry are or on the way to the Ukrainian forces, 10 anti tank systems for every Russian tank, says Tony Blinken, Secretary of State.* *https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-04-03/images-of-dead-in-ukrainian-town-of-bucha-a-punch-in-gut-says-blinken 10 for 1, it appears that the West has vowed to pulverize Russian tanks in this war. No, the West has vowed to pad the pockets of defense contractors. This vow has existed for quite some time. I don't watch much new but I was at a friend's house this past week who constantly watches the news. I saw Zalensky asking for 500 javelins and 500 stingers a day. So I googled the price of these weapons systems. It's insanity. Most wars, most skirmishes, of which there are several involving the US at any given time that aren't covered by the media, most are to accomplish two things. Regime changes and funneling tax dollars, unchecked, into the pockets of a select few.

    That is over 100 million dollars per day to defense contractors and I am counting only javelin missiles not the complete system. And the stingers.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2022 - 4:31 PM ET #885

    Reports have Bucha, Ukraine, civilians been executed and mass grave found.  

    Onto the killings of Ukrainian civilians at Bucha by the Russian military, whether if it is genocide. Here is what Jens Stoltenberg, NATO Secretary-General, has to say earlier this morning: 

    “It is also extremely important that the International Criminal Court has opened an investigation into potential war crimes in Ukraine and that all facts are brought on the table, to the table, and that those responsible are held accountable,”*

    *https://thehill.com/news/sunday-talk-shows/3257583-nato-chief-calls-bucha-executions-horrific/

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    Reports have Bucha, Ukraine, civilians been executed and mass grave found.  

    Onto the killings of Ukrainian civilians at Bucha by the Russian military, whether if it is genocide. Here is what Jens Stoltenberg, NATO Secretary-General, has to say earlier this morning: 

    “It is also extremely important that the International Criminal Court has opened an investigation into potential war crimes in Ukraine and that all facts are brought on the table, to the table, and that those responsible are held accountable,”*

    *https://thehill.com/news/sunday-talk-shows/3257583-nato-chief-calls-bucha-executions-horrific/

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2022 - 4:37 PM ET #886

    Russia has requested that the United Nations Security Council convene on Monday to discuss what it called a "provocation by Ukrainian radicals" in the town of Bucha after Kyiv accused Russian troops of killing civilians there.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-asks-un-security-council-discuss-bucha-provocation-2022-04-03/

    Somebody is lying.

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    Russia has requested that the United Nations Security Council convene on Monday to discuss what it called a "provocation by Ukrainian radicals" in the town of Bucha after Kyiv accused Russian troops of killing civilians there.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-asks-un-security-council-discuss-bucha-provocation-2022-04-03/

    Somebody is lying.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Some more anti tank weaponry are or on the way to the Ukrainian forces, 10 anti tank systems for every Russian tank, says Tony Blinken, Secretary of State.* *https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-04-03/images-of-dead-in-ukrainian-town-of-bucha-a-punch-in-gut-says-blinken 10 for 1, it appears that the West has vowed to pulverize Russian tanks in this war. No, the West has vowed to pad the pockets of defense contractors. This vow has existed for quite some time. I don't watch much new but I was at a friend's house this past week who constantly watches the news. I saw Zalensky asking for 500 javelins and 500 stingers a day. So I googled the price of these weapons systems. It's insanity. Most wars, most skirmishes, of which there are several involving the US at any given time that aren't covered by the media, most are to accomplish two things. Regime changes and funneling tax dollars, unchecked, into the pockets of a select few. That is over 100 million dollars per day to defense contractors and I am counting only javelin missiles not the complete system. And the stingers.

    Yep. And I doubt the US is saying, "Hey, you need to be conservative with your launchers." So we're probably sending tons of them tons of complete systems. They have been affective but geez, it's just shines a light on how inflated our defense spending is. I'm all for outfitting our men and women with whatever they need, regardless of cost but giving Ukraine 100 million dollars in missiles a day just exposes to issues.

    1. There's no way in hell these weapons systems are actually that expensive to manufacture.

    2. It's fucking costly to be the world police. That money would be better spent here in the home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Some more anti tank weaponry are or on the way to the Ukrainian forces, 10 anti tank systems for every Russian tank, says Tony Blinken, Secretary of State.* *https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-04-03/images-of-dead-in-ukrainian-town-of-bucha-a-punch-in-gut-says-blinken 10 for 1, it appears that the West has vowed to pulverize Russian tanks in this war. No, the West has vowed to pad the pockets of defense contractors. This vow has existed for quite some time. I don't watch much new but I was at a friend's house this past week who constantly watches the news. I saw Zalensky asking for 500 javelins and 500 stingers a day. So I googled the price of these weapons systems. It's insanity. Most wars, most skirmishes, of which there are several involving the US at any given time that aren't covered by the media, most are to accomplish two things. Regime changes and funneling tax dollars, unchecked, into the pockets of a select few. That is over 100 million dollars per day to defense contractors and I am counting only javelin missiles not the complete system. And the stingers.

    Yep. And I doubt the US is saying, "Hey, you need to be conservative with your launchers." So we're probably sending tons of them tons of complete systems. They have been affective but geez, it's just shines a light on how inflated our defense spending is. I'm all for outfitting our men and women with whatever they need, regardless of cost but giving Ukraine 100 million dollars in missiles a day just exposes to issues.

    1. There's no way in hell these weapons systems are actually that expensive to manufacture.

    2. It's fucking costly to be the world police. That money would be better spent here in the home.

     
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     Some of it has been spent at home: crack pipes made in China.

     

    I can only imagine when that day will come
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     Some of it has been spent at home: crack pipes made in China.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: "Super modern" military equipment is on the way from the United States and Britain, says Sergiy Korsunsky, Ukraine's ambassador to Japan. https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-03-31/ukraine-will-soon-be-able-to-better-protect-its-skies-envoy-to-japan The long range missiles dominated by the Russian forces over Ukrainian sky will tip over to the Ukrainian side soon, great news. Ukrainian forces will be capable of shooting down Russian cruise missiles with the "super modern" equipment.   terrific news     europa ukraine needs to achieve at least a stalemate and truce with an end to hostilities , including cyber , for multiple reasons but the most important to the american consumer is that sanctions would sooner or later relax , the markets would stabilize then heat up again , and our inflation will receed somewhat if russia wins     its total chaos     and even more sanctions   and more inflation to us  we could expect gas prices to rise much higher   assuming putin doesnt start a nuclear war that dude is almost as dangerous & looney tunes as trump        so it could happen then gas prices will b the least of any concern

    Aussies' aid is on the way to Ukrainian forces as well. Bushmasters, armored vehicles will be sent by C-17 Globemaster, says Scott Morrison, Prime Minister of Australia, per AP News. 

    it all helps  an_clap

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: "Super modern" military equipment is on the way from the United States and Britain, says Sergiy Korsunsky, Ukraine's ambassador to Japan. https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-03-31/ukraine-will-soon-be-able-to-better-protect-its-skies-envoy-to-japan The long range missiles dominated by the Russian forces over Ukrainian sky will tip over to the Ukrainian side soon, great news. Ukrainian forces will be capable of shooting down Russian cruise missiles with the "super modern" equipment.   terrific news     europa ukraine needs to achieve at least a stalemate and truce with an end to hostilities , including cyber , for multiple reasons but the most important to the american consumer is that sanctions would sooner or later relax , the markets would stabilize then heat up again , and our inflation will receed somewhat if russia wins     its total chaos     and even more sanctions   and more inflation to us  we could expect gas prices to rise much higher   assuming putin doesnt start a nuclear war that dude is almost as dangerous & looney tunes as trump        so it could happen then gas prices will b the least of any concern

    Aussies' aid is on the way to Ukrainian forces as well. Bushmasters, armored vehicles will be sent by C-17 Globemaster, says Scott Morrison, Prime Minister of Australia, per AP News. 

    it all helps  an_clap

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

      The Western countries have united and determined to support Ukraine by defeating Vladimir Putin's invasion in which Donald J. Trump has called genius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

      The Western countries have united and determined to support Ukraine by defeating Vladimir Putin's invasion in which Donald J. Trump has called genius.

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    Execution of civilians is a war crime. Putin needs to be held accountable.

    A Russian needs to stand up & take this guy out!

    You will become an immediate hero to the world. 

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    Execution of civilians is a war crime. Putin needs to be held accountable.

    A Russian needs to stand up & take this guy out!

    You will become an immediate hero to the world. 

     
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    Anders Aslund: 

    “If Hungary really votes overwhelmingly against democracy and for corruption I cannot see why it should be accepted in the EU. Kick it out!”

    “Votes…against democracy” is used here without a smidgeon of self-awareness.

    Progressives have completely dropped the mask. “Democracy” is only democratic if it enshrines their preferences.

     

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    Anders Aslund: 

    “If Hungary really votes overwhelmingly against democracy and for corruption I cannot see why it should be accepted in the EU. Kick it out!”

    “Votes…against democracy” is used here without a smidgeon of self-awareness.

    Progressives have completely dropped the mask. “Democracy” is only democratic if it enshrines their preferences.

     

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    Democracy is when the Atlantic Council, George Soros and Bezos Post hand picks and installs Hungary’s government, overriding the will of Hungarian voters.

    Ukraine 2014. 

    It’s amazing how little most Americans know about the world we live in. 

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    Democracy is when the Atlantic Council, George Soros and Bezos Post hand picks and installs Hungary’s government, overriding the will of Hungarian voters.

    Ukraine 2014. 

    It’s amazing how little most Americans know about the world we live in. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Execution of civilians is a war crime. Putin needs to be held accountable. A Russian needs to stand up & take this guy out! You will become an immediate hero to the world.

    This guy calling for an assassination … and he believes calling for the assassination shows how good of a guy he is. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Execution of civilians is a war crime. Putin needs to be held accountable. A Russian needs to stand up & take this guy out! You will become an immediate hero to the world.

    This guy calling for an assassination … and he believes calling for the assassination shows how good of a guy he is. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Execution of civilians is a war crime. Putin needs to be held accountable. A Russian needs to stand up & take this guy out! You will become an immediate hero to the world.

    confused  aren't you the same guy who said a drone strike on 10 civilian family members in Afghanistan was " collateral damage".

    Who said; 

     You're an idiot!

    "Atrocities happen all the time in WAR! ...."

    "You whining about it & trying to stake claim on a moral high road is one of the phoniest comments you've spewed in this forum.

    Crawl back under your rock."

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Execution of civilians is a war crime. Putin needs to be held accountable. A Russian needs to stand up & take this guy out! You will become an immediate hero to the world.

    confused  aren't you the same guy who said a drone strike on 10 civilian family members in Afghanistan was " collateral damage".

    Who said; 

     You're an idiot!

    "Atrocities happen all the time in WAR! ...."

    "You whining about it & trying to stake claim on a moral high road is one of the phoniest comments you've spewed in this forum.

    Crawl back under your rock."

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Execution of civilians is a war crime. Putin needs to be held accountable. A Russian needs to stand up & take this guy out! You will become an immediate hero to the world.

     

     

    This guy calling for an assassination … and he believes calling for the assassination shows how good of a guy he is.

     

    Meanwhile THIS guy  [I_Need_A_Detox]  insists the *REPUBLICAN* U.S. government orchestrated the 9/11 attacks bringing down the Towers, killing thousands; slamming into the Pentagon, killing our own military; and tried to fly into the Capitol to kill members of his own government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Execution of civilians is a war crime. Putin needs to be held accountable. A Russian needs to stand up & take this guy out! You will become an immediate hero to the world.

     

     

    This guy calling for an assassination … and he believes calling for the assassination shows how good of a guy he is.

     

    Meanwhile THIS guy  [I_Need_A_Detox]  insists the *REPUBLICAN* U.S. government orchestrated the 9/11 attacks bringing down the Towers, killing thousands; slamming into the Pentagon, killing our own military; and tried to fly into the Capitol to kill members of his own government.

     
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    “He is a war criminal,” Biden said of Putin, on the heels of reports of mass killings of civilians by Russian troops in the town of Bucha, northwest of Ukraine’s capital of Kyiv.

    President Joe Biden said evidence needs to be gathered to put Russian leader Vladimir Putin on trial for war crimes related to his nation’s invasion of Ukraine.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/04/biden-calls-to-put-putin-on-trial-for-war-crimes-over-russias-actions-in-ukraine.html

    World leaders have also condemned Russian forces for civilian massacre in Bucha, Ukraine. These world leaders include the list of nations from Germany, UK, Japan, New Zealand... 

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    “He is a war criminal,” Biden said of Putin, on the heels of reports of mass killings of civilians by Russian troops in the town of Bucha, northwest of Ukraine’s capital of Kyiv.

    President Joe Biden said evidence needs to be gathered to put Russian leader Vladimir Putin on trial for war crimes related to his nation’s invasion of Ukraine.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/04/biden-calls-to-put-putin-on-trial-for-war-crimes-over-russias-actions-in-ukraine.html

    World leaders have also condemned Russian forces for civilian massacre in Bucha, Ukraine. These world leaders include the list of nations from Germany, UK, Japan, New Zealand... 

     
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    There needs to be a complete investigation on the deaths in Bucha. Certainly there are living witnesses. Video??

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    There needs to be a complete investigation on the deaths in Bucha. Certainly there are living witnesses. Video??

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    “He is a war criminal,” Biden said of Putin, on the heels of reports of mass killings of civilians by Russian troops in the town of Bucha, northwest of Ukraine’s capital of Kyiv. President Joe Biden said evidence needs to be gathered to put Russian leader Vladimir Putin on trial for war crimes related to his nation’s invasion of Ukraine. https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/04/biden-calls-to-put-putin-on-trial-for-war-crimes-over-russias-actions-in-ukraine.html World leaders have also condemned Russian forces for civilian massacre in Bucha, Ukraine. These world leaders include the list of nations from Germany, UK, Japan, New Zealand...

    These acts are now creating a terrorist element Putin has been railing of for months now. This massacre is tipping normal civilians into a depth of hell that few come back to decency in lives. 

    Putin has created the monster he fears go figure.

    confused war brings out the worst tendencies in the human condition. This region has been completely destabilized from any form of peaceful governance.

    The repercussions of this conflict will go through history as the future of this once peaceful prosperous farming communities now have a tradgic stain of injustice.

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    “He is a war criminal,” Biden said of Putin, on the heels of reports of mass killings of civilians by Russian troops in the town of Bucha, northwest of Ukraine’s capital of Kyiv. President Joe Biden said evidence needs to be gathered to put Russian leader Vladimir Putin on trial for war crimes related to his nation’s invasion of Ukraine. https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/04/biden-calls-to-put-putin-on-trial-for-war-crimes-over-russias-actions-in-ukraine.html World leaders have also condemned Russian forces for civilian massacre in Bucha, Ukraine. These world leaders include the list of nations from Germany, UK, Japan, New Zealand...

    These acts are now creating a terrorist element Putin has been railing of for months now. This massacre is tipping normal civilians into a depth of hell that few come back to decency in lives. 

    Putin has created the monster he fears go figure.

    confused war brings out the worst tendencies in the human condition. This region has been completely destabilized from any form of peaceful governance.

    The repercussions of this conflict will go through history as the future of this once peaceful prosperous farming communities now have a tradgic stain of injustice.

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Some more anti tank weaponry are or on the way to the Ukrainian forces, 10 anti tank systems for every Russian tank, says Tony Blinken, Secretary of State.* *https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-04-03/images-of-dead-in-ukrainian-town-of-bucha-a-punch-in-gut-says-blinken 10 for 1, it appears that the West has vowed to pulverize Russian tanks in this war. No, the West has vowed to pad the pockets of defense contractors. This vow has existed for quite some time. I don't watch much new but I was at a friend's house this past week who constantly watches the news. I saw Zalensky asking for 500 javelins and 500 stingers a day. So I googled the price of these weapons systems. It's insanity. Most wars, most skirmishes, of which there are several involving the US at any given time that aren't covered by the media, most are to accomplish two things. Regime changes and funneling tax dollars, unchecked, into the pockets of a select few. That is over 100 million dollars per day to defense contractors and I am counting only javelin missiles not the complete system. And the stingers. Yep. And I doubt the US is saying, "Hey, you need to be conservative with your launchers." So we're probably sending tons of them tons of complete systems. They have been affective but geez, it's just shines a light on how inflated our defense spending is. I'm all for outfitting our men and women with whatever they need, regardless of cost but giving Ukraine 100 million dollars in missiles a day just exposes to issues. 1. There's no way in hell these weapons systems are actually that expensive to manufacture. 2. It's fucking costly to be the world police. That money would be better spent here in the home.

    Let's hope they are being used and not being sold on the black market.

    This is an older article but shows what the weopon system can do in the hands of terrorists.

    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/10539/venezuelas-shoulder-fired-missiles-at-risk-of-ending-up-on-the-black-market

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Some more anti tank weaponry are or on the way to the Ukrainian forces, 10 anti tank systems for every Russian tank, says Tony Blinken, Secretary of State.* *https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-04-03/images-of-dead-in-ukrainian-town-of-bucha-a-punch-in-gut-says-blinken 10 for 1, it appears that the West has vowed to pulverize Russian tanks in this war. No, the West has vowed to pad the pockets of defense contractors. This vow has existed for quite some time. I don't watch much new but I was at a friend's house this past week who constantly watches the news. I saw Zalensky asking for 500 javelins and 500 stingers a day. So I googled the price of these weapons systems. It's insanity. Most wars, most skirmishes, of which there are several involving the US at any given time that aren't covered by the media, most are to accomplish two things. Regime changes and funneling tax dollars, unchecked, into the pockets of a select few. That is over 100 million dollars per day to defense contractors and I am counting only javelin missiles not the complete system. And the stingers. Yep. And I doubt the US is saying, "Hey, you need to be conservative with your launchers." So we're probably sending tons of them tons of complete systems. They have been affective but geez, it's just shines a light on how inflated our defense spending is. I'm all for outfitting our men and women with whatever they need, regardless of cost but giving Ukraine 100 million dollars in missiles a day just exposes to issues. 1. There's no way in hell these weapons systems are actually that expensive to manufacture. 2. It's fucking costly to be the world police. That money would be better spent here in the home.

    Let's hope they are being used and not being sold on the black market.

    This is an older article but shows what the weopon system can do in the hands of terrorists.

    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/10539/venezuelas-shoulder-fired-missiles-at-risk-of-ending-up-on-the-black-market

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