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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2022 - 12:24 AM ET #726

    NATO estimate Russian death toll.

    7500 to 15000.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/mar/23/russia-ukraine-war-humanitarian-convoy-seized-near-mariupol-says-zelenskiy-as-he-decries-constant-bombing-of-city?page=with%3Ablock-623b828d8f08d422c5d5c1b0

    Russia has blockaded black sea trapping 200 vessels.

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    NATO estimate Russian death toll.

    7500 to 15000.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/mar/23/russia-ukraine-war-humanitarian-convoy-seized-near-mariupol-says-zelenskiy-as-he-decries-constant-bombing-of-city?page=with%3Ablock-623b828d8f08d422c5d5c1b0

    Russia has blockaded black sea trapping 200 vessels.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2022 - 1:03 AM ET #727

    Vladimir Putin's risk of been deposed has been growing by the minute, dude has to be wary of his back from Russia's Federal Security Service (FSB). FSB agents are said to have no interests of Russia to return to Soviet Union, also they are disillusioned with the Western sanctions.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10645695/Risk-Putin-deposed-security-service-coup-growing-week-whistleblower-claims.html   

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    Vladimir Putin's risk of been deposed has been growing by the minute, dude has to be wary of his back from Russia's Federal Security Service (FSB). FSB agents are said to have no interests of Russia to return to Soviet Union, also they are disillusioned with the Western sanctions.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10645695/Risk-Putin-deposed-security-service-coup-growing-week-whistleblower-claims.html   

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2022 - 7:29 AM ET #728

    40 percent of Europe's oil is supplied by Russia.

    The talks are focused on an weapons deal with the Ukrainian government. 

    Russia continues to lose territory in Ukraine as withdrawing of Russian troops shifts the front lines in kyiv. 

    NATO plans to release statements over the coming days of what it plans to do to deal with this conflict.

     

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    40 percent of Europe's oil is supplied by Russia.

    The talks are focused on an weapons deal with the Ukrainian government. 

    Russia continues to lose territory in Ukraine as withdrawing of Russian troops shifts the front lines in kyiv. 

    NATO plans to release statements over the coming days of what it plans to do to deal with this conflict.

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2022 - 8:05 AM ET #729

    Reuters reports.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin sent his troops into Ukraine on what he calls a "special military operation" to demilitarise and "denazify" Ukraine. Ukraine and the West say Putin launched an unprovoked war of aggression.

    The European Union and its allies will keep on delivering military aid to the Ukrainian army, Borrell said.

    "It is important because everything will be decided in the next 15 days," he said. "What will make history is the capacity of Ukrainians to resist."

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    Reuters reports.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin sent his troops into Ukraine on what he calls a "special military operation" to demilitarise and "denazify" Ukraine. Ukraine and the West say Putin launched an unprovoked war of aggression.

    The European Union and its allies will keep on delivering military aid to the Ukrainian army, Borrell said.

    "It is important because everything will be decided in the next 15 days," he said. "What will make history is the capacity of Ukrainians to resist."

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2022 - 8:10 AM ET #730

    United States today begins arms shipment to besieged Ukrainian troops an 800 million arms shipment is being deployed to assist Ukraine in their resistance of Russian occupation.

    WASHINGTON, March 23 (Reuters) - The first shipment from a new, $800 million arms package for Ukraine that U.S. President Joe Biden authorized last week will start flying out of the United States in the next day or so, and will not take long to reach Ukraine, a senior U.S. defense official said on Wednesday.

    The official, who spoke to reporters on condition of anonymity, did not specify which systems would be included in the first shipments to Ukraine but said priority would be given to the kinds of defensive weapons already being used by Ukrainian troops

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    United States today begins arms shipment to besieged Ukrainian troops an 800 million arms shipment is being deployed to assist Ukraine in their resistance of Russian occupation.

    WASHINGTON, March 23 (Reuters) - The first shipment from a new, $800 million arms package for Ukraine that U.S. President Joe Biden authorized last week will start flying out of the United States in the next day or so, and will not take long to reach Ukraine, a senior U.S. defense official said on Wednesday.

    The official, who spoke to reporters on condition of anonymity, did not specify which systems would be included in the first shipments to Ukraine but said priority would be given to the kinds of defensive weapons already being used by Ukrainian troops

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2022 - 9:50 AM ET #731

    Reporters at NATO today will be asking for a red line regarding chemical weapons. That’s their role as state media also known as accredited journalists. 


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    Reporters at NATO today will be asking for a red line regarding chemical weapons. That’s their role as state media also known as accredited journalists. 


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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2022 - 11:46 AM ET #732

    Putin's military invasion against Ukraine is seen to wipe out 15 years of Russian economic growth, per Bloomberg.

    Chicken will come home to roost on Vladimir Putin, not if but when. They will come and bite his behind, pretty hard I guess. 

     

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    Putin's military invasion against Ukraine is seen to wipe out 15 years of Russian economic growth, per Bloomberg.

    Chicken will come home to roost on Vladimir Putin, not if but when. They will come and bite his behind, pretty hard I guess. 

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2022 - 12:53 PM ET #733

    Okay confused

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    Okay confused

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2022 - 1:23 PM ET #734

    Operation Ukrainian shield under way control of skies from air strikes missile or plane is being deployed.

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    Operation Ukrainian shield under way control of skies from air strikes missile or plane is being deployed.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2022 - 1:35 PM ET #735

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Operation Ukrainian shield under way control of skies from air strikes missile or plane is being deployed.

     

    that is a workable alternative to a nato enforced no-fly-zone

    and it doesnt risk nato pilots or significantly incrrease risk of a global thermal nuclear war

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Operation Ukrainian shield under way control of skies from air strikes missile or plane is being deployed.

     

    that is a workable alternative to a nato enforced no-fly-zone

    and it doesnt risk nato pilots or significantly incrrease risk of a global thermal nuclear war

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2022 - 2:07 PM ET #736

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Operation Ukrainian shield under way control of skies from air strikes missile or plane is being deployed.

    That's funny, I read this put out 13 hours ago;

    https://www.ft.com/content/d7c213ec-15eb-450b-86e3-01f5c3b4130d

    Ukraine’s plea for Soviet-era anti-aircraft systems goes unanswered

    The Financial Times says countries who would supply the anti-aircraft systems fear it will seen as act of aggression, Slovakia, Greece, and Bulgaria. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Operation Ukrainian shield under way control of skies from air strikes missile or plane is being deployed.

    That's funny, I read this put out 13 hours ago;

    https://www.ft.com/content/d7c213ec-15eb-450b-86e3-01f5c3b4130d

    Ukraine’s plea for Soviet-era anti-aircraft systems goes unanswered

    The Financial Times says countries who would supply the anti-aircraft systems fear it will seen as act of aggression, Slovakia, Greece, and Bulgaria. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2022 - 2:16 PM ET #737

    So I guess the US alone is sending air defense systems (old Soviet systems) and other countries are thinking not a good idea, got it.

    Can we get a mushroom cloud emoji??

    https://www.facebook.com/themushroomcloud/photos/thanks-for-our-new-personalized-emoji-internet-also-worcester-were-sorry-you-wer/1550573555023674/

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    So I guess the US alone is sending air defense systems (old Soviet systems) and other countries are thinking not a good idea, got it.

    Can we get a mushroom cloud emoji??

    https://www.facebook.com/themushroomcloud/photos/thanks-for-our-new-personalized-emoji-internet-also-worcester-were-sorry-you-wer/1550573555023674/

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2022 - 2:26 PM ET #738

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Operation Ukrainian shield under way control of skies from air strikes missile or plane is being deployed.   that is a workable alternative to a nato enforced no-fly-zone and it doesnt risk nato pilots or significantly incrrease risk of a global thermal nuclear war

    Good to see NATO is firmly united against Putin's aggression over Ukraine. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Operation Ukrainian shield under way control of skies from air strikes missile or plane is being deployed.   that is a workable alternative to a nato enforced no-fly-zone and it doesnt risk nato pilots or significantly incrrease risk of a global thermal nuclear war

    Good to see NATO is firmly united against Putin's aggression over Ukraine. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2022 - 2:29 PM ET #739

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Putin's military invasion against Ukraine is seen to wipe out 15 years of Russian economic growth, per Bloomberg.

    Chicken will come home to roost on Vladimir Putin, not if but when. They will come and bite his behind, pretty hard I guess.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Putin's military invasion against Ukraine is seen to wipe out 15 years of Russian economic growth, per Bloomberg.

    Chicken will come home to roost on Vladimir Putin, not if but when. They will come and bite his behind, pretty hard I guess.

     

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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2022 - 8:47 AM ET #740

    Street fighting continues throughout the capital and suburbs as Russia continues to replenish ground to the liberators.

     

    [The withdrawal of certain units of the occupying forces operating in the area to the territory of the Russian Federation is noted due to the loss of more than 50 percent of the personnel.]

    [In the Donetsk direction, the enemy holds the occupied frontiers. The main efforts focus on capturing the cities of Popasna, Rubizhne, and Mariupol, are without success.]

    [Up to five Battalion Tactical Groups moved to the defense in the Zaporizhzhya direction.]

    In the South, the defense operation continues in the designated operational zone, a stabilization operation is underway, and territorial defense tasks are being performed.

    [In the Pivdennyi Buh directions, the enemy is occupying the established lines of defense with the forces of the group, trying to take measures to restore the combat capability of units and replenish records.]

    [In the Azov operational zone, according to updated information, Ukraine sank Russia’s large landing ship “Saratov” during the attack on the occupied Berdyansk port. Large landing ships “Tsezar Kunikov” and “Novocherkassk” were damaged. Other losses of the enemy are being clarified.]

    So, during the previous day, our soldiers repulsed 9 enemy attacks, destroyed 12 tanks, about 20 units of armored and automotive equipment, and 9 artillery systems. The enemy lost more than 200 servicemen. Air defense units shot down 2 planes and 2 enemy UAVs.

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    Street fighting continues throughout the capital and suburbs as Russia continues to replenish ground to the liberators.

     

    [The withdrawal of certain units of the occupying forces operating in the area to the territory of the Russian Federation is noted due to the loss of more than 50 percent of the personnel.]

    [In the Donetsk direction, the enemy holds the occupied frontiers. The main efforts focus on capturing the cities of Popasna, Rubizhne, and Mariupol, are without success.]

    [Up to five Battalion Tactical Groups moved to the defense in the Zaporizhzhya direction.]

    In the South, the defense operation continues in the designated operational zone, a stabilization operation is underway, and territorial defense tasks are being performed.

    [In the Pivdennyi Buh directions, the enemy is occupying the established lines of defense with the forces of the group, trying to take measures to restore the combat capability of units and replenish records.]

    [In the Azov operational zone, according to updated information, Ukraine sank Russia’s large landing ship “Saratov” during the attack on the occupied Berdyansk port. Large landing ships “Tsezar Kunikov” and “Novocherkassk” were damaged. Other losses of the enemy are being clarified.]

    So, during the previous day, our soldiers repulsed 9 enemy attacks, destroyed 12 tanks, about 20 units of armored and automotive equipment, and 9 artillery systems. The enemy lost more than 200 servicemen. Air defense units shot down 2 planes and 2 enemy UAVs.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Up to five Battalion Tactical Groups moved to the defense in the Zaporizhzhya direction.

    Are these the white nationalist Nazi battalions being blindly supported and propped up by Joe Biden and the democrats (and some republicans)? 

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    Up to five Battalion Tactical Groups moved to the defense in the Zaporizhzhya direction.

    Are these the white nationalist Nazi battalions being blindly supported and propped up by Joe Biden and the democrats (and some republicans)? 

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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2022 - 9:21 AM ET #742

    US and EU strike LNG (liquid natural gas) deal as Europe seeks to cut Russian gas

    The United States will work to supply 15 billion cubic metres of LNG

    That’s what Syria 2011-20/Ukr 2014-22 is all about. To supply EU by US. 

    https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-eu-strike-lng-deal-europe-seeks-cut-russian-gas-2022-03-25/

     

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    US and EU strike LNG (liquid natural gas) deal as Europe seeks to cut Russian gas

    The United States will work to supply 15 billion cubic metres of LNG

    That’s what Syria 2011-20/Ukr 2014-22 is all about. To supply EU by US. 

    https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-eu-strike-lng-deal-europe-seeks-cut-russian-gas-2022-03-25/

     

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    Indian Government is expected to formally announce a INR-RUB payment arrangement next week which would allow the bypassing of US sanctions

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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2022 - 10:20 AM ET #744

    This is from a BBC documentary in 2012.

    Of course this was before the color revolution in 13/14. Look how the propaganda has changed since a government favorable to the west was installed. 

    https://twitter.com/aaronbastani/status/1507146794488238083?s=21

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    This is from a BBC documentary in 2012.

    Of course this was before the color revolution in 13/14. Look how the propaganda has changed since a government favorable to the west was installed. 

    https://twitter.com/aaronbastani/status/1507146794488238083?s=21

     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2022 - 10:51 AM ET #745

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    This is from a BBC documentary in 2012. Of course this was before the color revolution in 13/14. Look how the propaganda has changed since a government favorable to the west was installed.  https://twitter.com/aaronbastani/status/1507146794488238083?s=21

    Most people cannot handle that Detox. Makes them think and they don't want to. Easier to just blindly jump on bandwagon, easier to skip past your post and pat others on the back. See it everyday.

    Highly doubt that anyone here will give you a direct response other than how much do you get paid to post, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    This is from a BBC documentary in 2012. Of course this was before the color revolution in 13/14. Look how the propaganda has changed since a government favorable to the west was installed.  https://twitter.com/aaronbastani/status/1507146794488238083?s=21

    Most people cannot handle that Detox. Makes them think and they don't want to. Easier to just blindly jump on bandwagon, easier to skip past your post and pat others on the back. See it everyday.

    Highly doubt that anyone here will give you a direct response other than how much do you get paid to post, etc.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Good to see NATO is firmly united against Putin's aggression over Ukraine.

     

    Trump wanted NATO to be desolved, calling it "obsolete"

     

    Weird coinkydink:  that's EXACTLY what Putin wants too!

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Good to see NATO is firmly united against Putin's aggression over Ukraine.

     

    Trump wanted NATO to be desolved, calling it "obsolete"

     

    Weird coinkydink:  that's EXACTLY what Putin wants too!

     

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Trump wanted NATO to be desolved, calling it "obsolete"   Weird coinkydink:  that's EXACTLY what Putin wants too!

    Fake News: Trump wanted NATO to be dissolved 

    Real News: Trump complained that European governments were not spending enough on the shared costs of defense, leaving the United States taxpayer to carry an unfair burden

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Trump wanted NATO to be desolved, calling it "obsolete"   Weird coinkydink:  that's EXACTLY what Putin wants too!

    Fake News: Trump wanted NATO to be dissolved 

    Real News: Trump complained that European governments were not spending enough on the shared costs of defense, leaving the United States taxpayer to carry an unfair burden

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Most people cannot handle that Detox. Makes them think and they don't want to. Easier to just blindly jump on bandwagon, easier to skip past your post and pat others on the back. See it everyday. Highly doubt that anyone here will give you a direct response other than how much do you get paid to post, etc.

    It’s unbelievable isn’t it? 

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    It’s unbelievable isn’t it? 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Good to see NATO is firmly united against Putin's aggression over Ukraine.

     

     

     

    Trump wanted NATO to be desolved, calling it "obsolete"

    Weird coinkydink:  that's EXACTLY what Putin wants too!

    i would say that fact makes chump look like an ignorant fool    but that train left the station long ago  

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Good to see NATO is firmly united against Putin's aggression over Ukraine.

     

     

     

    Trump wanted NATO to be desolved, calling it "obsolete"

    Weird coinkydink:  that's EXACTLY what Putin wants too!

    i would say that fact makes chump look like an ignorant fool    but that train left the station long ago  

     

     

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Good to see NATO is firmly united against Putin's aggression over Ukraine.   Trump wanted NATO to be desolved, calling it "obsolete"   Weird coinkydink:  that's EXACTLY what Putin wants too!

    Putin was "waiting" for Trump to withdraw the US from NATO in his second

    term.--John Bolton*

    *https://www.businessinsider.com/bolton-putin-waiting-for-trump-to-withdraw-from-nato-in-2nd-term-2022-3

    It will be a dire disaster for the NATO, Ukraine and Western world, but a tremendous gift to Vladimir Putin from Trump if that should materialize. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Good to see NATO is firmly united against Putin's aggression over Ukraine.   Trump wanted NATO to be desolved, calling it "obsolete"   Weird coinkydink:  that's EXACTLY what Putin wants too!

    Putin was "waiting" for Trump to withdraw the US from NATO in his second

    term.--John Bolton*

    *https://www.businessinsider.com/bolton-putin-waiting-for-trump-to-withdraw-from-nato-in-2nd-term-2022-3

    It will be a dire disaster for the NATO, Ukraine and Western world, but a tremendous gift to Vladimir Putin from Trump if that should materialize. 

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