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    Posted: May. 31, 2022 - 1:12 AM ET #1376

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    It appears that Ukrainian forces may have to retreat from their last pocket of resistance in Luhansk (East Region of Ukraine) to avoid being captured by advancing Russian troops.(*1) (*1) https://19thnews.org/2022/05/uvalde-school-shooting-texas-attorney-general-suggests-arming-teachers/ At the same time, U.S. is preparing to ship multiple-launch rocket systems (MLRS) to Ukraine in this critical juncture. The MLRS and its lighter-weight version, the HIMARS, can launch as far as 300 kilometers (186 miles), depending on the type of munition.(*2) (*2) https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-05-27-22/h_bc50c84c3c1050d02c1ca8ee95426a83 Ukrainian forces urgently need more long range heavy artilleries as Russians advancing in some part of Donbas.

    "We are not going to send to Ukraine rocket systems that can strike into Russia,"--Pres. Biden 

    https://twitter.com/steveholland1/status/1531272770050576387

    May be shorter range other than 300km system could transfer to Ukraine, any long range heavy artillery will help to certain degree. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    It appears that Ukrainian forces may have to retreat from their last pocket of resistance in Luhansk (East Region of Ukraine) to avoid being captured by advancing Russian troops.(*1) (*1) https://19thnews.org/2022/05/uvalde-school-shooting-texas-attorney-general-suggests-arming-teachers/ At the same time, U.S. is preparing to ship multiple-launch rocket systems (MLRS) to Ukraine in this critical juncture. The MLRS and its lighter-weight version, the HIMARS, can launch as far as 300 kilometers (186 miles), depending on the type of munition.(*2) (*2) https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-05-27-22/h_bc50c84c3c1050d02c1ca8ee95426a83 Ukrainian forces urgently need more long range heavy artilleries as Russians advancing in some part of Donbas.

    "We are not going to send to Ukraine rocket systems that can strike into Russia,"--Pres. Biden 

    https://twitter.com/steveholland1/status/1531272770050576387

    May be shorter range other than 300km system could transfer to Ukraine, any long range heavy artillery will help to certain degree. 

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2022 - 7:57 AM ET #1377

    Inflation is soaring across Europe. 

    The West is becoming a disaster, spending hundreds of billions of tax dollars, all because they want to prevent Russia from controlling pieces of a shit hole. 

    Inflation came in at 8.1% for the month, according to preliminary figures from Europe's statistics office Tuesday, up from April's record high of 7.4% and higher than expectations of 7.8%.

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    Inflation is soaring across Europe. 

    The West is becoming a disaster, spending hundreds of billions of tax dollars, all because they want to prevent Russia from controlling pieces of a shit hole. 

    Inflation came in at 8.1% for the month, according to preliminary figures from Europe's statistics office Tuesday, up from April's record high of 7.4% and higher than expectations of 7.8%.

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    Posted: May. 31, 2022 - 8:09 AM ET #1378

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Inflation is soaring across Europe.  The West is becoming a disaster, spending hundreds of billions of tax dollars, all because they want to prevent Russia from controlling pieces of a shit hole.  Inflation came in at 8.1% for the month, according to preliminary figures from Europe's statistics office Tuesday, up from April's record high of 7.4% and higher than expectations of 7.8%.

     

    The sky is falling!! an_getaway  the FCKN SKY IS FALLING!!!! an_nailbiter

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Inflation is soaring across Europe.  The West is becoming a disaster, spending hundreds of billions of tax dollars, all because they want to prevent Russia from controlling pieces of a shit hole.  Inflation came in at 8.1% for the month, according to preliminary figures from Europe's statistics office Tuesday, up from April's record high of 7.4% and higher than expectations of 7.8%.

     

    The sky is falling!! an_getaway  the FCKN SKY IS FALLING!!!! an_nailbiter

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2022 - 9:56 AM ET #1379

    European countries are starting to get sick of being bullied by the US and forced to fight against their own interests. 

    Their solution will be to build up their own armies. 

    Bet? 

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    European countries are starting to get sick of being bullied by the US and forced to fight against their own interests. 

    Their solution will be to build up their own armies. 

    Bet? 

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2022 - 10:00 AM ET #1380

    Germany is reactivating coal power plants 

     

    Climate change activists remain silent because it’s for a “good cause” 

     

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    Germany is reactivating coal power plants 

     

    Climate change activists remain silent because it’s for a “good cause” 

     

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    Posted: May. 31, 2022 - 10:04 AM ET #1381

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Inflation is soaring across Europe.  The West is becoming a disaster, spending hundreds of billions of tax dollars, all because they want to prevent Russia from controlling pieces of a shit hole.  Inflation came in at 8.1% for the month, according to preliminary figures from Europe's statistics office Tuesday, up from April's record high of 7.4% and higher than expectations of 7.8%.  

     

     

    The sky is falling!!  an_getaway the FCKN SKY IS FALLING!!!! an_nailbiter  

     

    The sun will come out, tomorrow!  Bet your bottom dollar

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Inflation is soaring across Europe.  The West is becoming a disaster, spending hundreds of billions of tax dollars, all because they want to prevent Russia from controlling pieces of a shit hole.  Inflation came in at 8.1% for the month, according to preliminary figures from Europe's statistics office Tuesday, up from April's record high of 7.4% and higher than expectations of 7.8%.  

     

     

    The sky is falling!!  an_getaway the FCKN SKY IS FALLING!!!! an_nailbiter  

     

    The sun will come out, tomorrow!  Bet your bottom dollar

     

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2022 - 10:07 AM ET #1382

    Head of European diplomacy Josep Borrell: 

    “Defense is not the competence of the European Union, but we must do more. We must increase our military budgets in a coordinated manner. And of course it won’t be easy.” 

    It started with Merkel, she wanted a European army, separate from US. Do you get it or not?

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    Head of European diplomacy Josep Borrell: 

    “Defense is not the competence of the European Union, but we must do more. We must increase our military budgets in a coordinated manner. And of course it won’t be easy.” 

    It started with Merkel, she wanted a European army, separate from US. Do you get it or not?

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2022 - 10:11 AM ET #1383

    European countries are starting to get sick of being bullied by Russian aggression.

    Their solution will be to build up their own armies

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    European countries are starting to get sick of being bullied by Russian aggression.

    Their solution will be to build up their own armies

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2022 - 11:18 AM ET #1384

    Here we go: 

    GERMANY TO SPEND 40.9 BLN EUROS ON STRENGTHENING AIR FORCE, INCLUDING EUROFIGHTER PURCHASES - DOCUMENT SEEN BY REUTERS

    GERMANY TO SPEND 19.3 BLN EUROS ON NAVAL DEVELOPMENTS, INCLUDING CORVETTE, SUBMARINE, MISSILE PURCHASES - DRAFT DOCUMENT SEEN BY REUTERS

    GERMANY TO SPEND 16.6 BLN EUROS ON ARMY, INCLUDING MARDER TANK REPLACEMENTS

    GERMANY TO SPEND 2 BLN EUROS ON SOLDIERS' PERSONAL EQUIPMENT, INCLUDING UNIFORMS, NIGHT VISION DEVICES, HELMETS - DRAFT DOCUMENT SEEN BY REUTERS

    GERMANY TO SPEND 20.7 BLN EUROS ON COMMAND AND CONTROL EQUIPMENT INCLUDING NEW IT, TACTICAL NETWORKS, RADIOS, SATELLITE COMMS - DRAFT DOCUMENT SEEN BY REUTERS

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    Here we go: 

    GERMANY TO SPEND 40.9 BLN EUROS ON STRENGTHENING AIR FORCE, INCLUDING EUROFIGHTER PURCHASES - DOCUMENT SEEN BY REUTERS

    GERMANY TO SPEND 19.3 BLN EUROS ON NAVAL DEVELOPMENTS, INCLUDING CORVETTE, SUBMARINE, MISSILE PURCHASES - DRAFT DOCUMENT SEEN BY REUTERS

    GERMANY TO SPEND 16.6 BLN EUROS ON ARMY, INCLUDING MARDER TANK REPLACEMENTS

    GERMANY TO SPEND 2 BLN EUROS ON SOLDIERS' PERSONAL EQUIPMENT, INCLUDING UNIFORMS, NIGHT VISION DEVICES, HELMETS - DRAFT DOCUMENT SEEN BY REUTERS

    GERMANY TO SPEND 20.7 BLN EUROS ON COMMAND AND CONTROL EQUIPMENT INCLUDING NEW IT, TACTICAL NETWORKS, RADIOS, SATELLITE COMMS - DRAFT DOCUMENT SEEN BY REUTERS

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    European countries are starting to get sick of being bullied by Russian aggression. Their solution will be to build up their own armies

    If that’s true then why don’t they just increase the amount of money they give NATO? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    European countries are starting to get sick of being bullied by Russian aggression. Their solution will be to build up their own armies

    If that’s true then why don’t they just increase the amount of money they give NATO? 

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2022 - 12:09 PM ET #1386

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    European countries are starting to get sick of being bullied by Russian aggression. Their solution will be to build up their own armies

    True!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    European countries are starting to get sick of being bullied by Russian aggression. Their solution will be to build up their own armies

    True!

     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2022 - 1:23 AM ET #1387

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: It appears that Ukrainian forces may have to retreat from their last pocket of resistance in Luhansk (East Region of Ukraine) to avoid being captured by advancing Russian troops.(*1) (*1) https://19thnews.org/2022/05/uvalde-school-shooting-texas-attorney-general-suggests-arming-teachers/ At the same time, U.S. is preparing to ship multiple-launch rocket systems (MLRS) to Ukraine in this critical juncture. The MLRS and its lighter-weight version, the HIMARS, can launch as far as 300 kilometers (186 miles), depending on the type of munition.(*2) (*2) https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-05-27-22/h_bc50c84c3c1050d02c1ca8ee95426a83 Ukrainian forces urgently need more long range heavy artilleries as Russians advancing in some part of Donbas. "We are not going to send to Ukraine rocket systems that can strike into Russia,"--Pres. Biden  https://twitter.com/steveholland1/status/1531272770050576387 May be shorter range other than 300km system could transfer to Ukraine, any long range heavy artillery will help to certain degree.

    Ukraine will get 70km range Guided Multiple Launch Rocket Systems (GMLRS) from the Biden Administration but not that 300km range Army Tactical Missile System (Army TACMS). 

    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/ukraine-to-get-guided-rockets-but-not-ones-able-to-reach-far-into-russia

    Again in the above article, it says "in the ongoing fight for the Donbas, where long-range massed artillery has been a decisive factor".

    Ukraine will take whatever assists it can get to defend it's military forces, civilians and territory. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: It appears that Ukrainian forces may have to retreat from their last pocket of resistance in Luhansk (East Region of Ukraine) to avoid being captured by advancing Russian troops.(*1) (*1) https://19thnews.org/2022/05/uvalde-school-shooting-texas-attorney-general-suggests-arming-teachers/ At the same time, U.S. is preparing to ship multiple-launch rocket systems (MLRS) to Ukraine in this critical juncture. The MLRS and its lighter-weight version, the HIMARS, can launch as far as 300 kilometers (186 miles), depending on the type of munition.(*2) (*2) https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-05-27-22/h_bc50c84c3c1050d02c1ca8ee95426a83 Ukrainian forces urgently need more long range heavy artilleries as Russians advancing in some part of Donbas. "We are not going to send to Ukraine rocket systems that can strike into Russia,"--Pres. Biden  https://twitter.com/steveholland1/status/1531272770050576387 May be shorter range other than 300km system could transfer to Ukraine, any long range heavy artillery will help to certain degree.

    Ukraine will get 70km range Guided Multiple Launch Rocket Systems (GMLRS) from the Biden Administration but not that 300km range Army Tactical Missile System (Army TACMS). 

    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/ukraine-to-get-guided-rockets-but-not-ones-able-to-reach-far-into-russia

    Again in the above article, it says "in the ongoing fight for the Donbas, where long-range massed artillery has been a decisive factor".

    Ukraine will take whatever assists it can get to defend it's military forces, civilians and territory. 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2022 - 7:05 PM ET #1388

    Brits promised these.

     The Harpoon missile has been integrated on foreign F-16 aircraft and is presently being integrated on foreign F-15 aircraft. In 1998, an advanced upgrade to Harpoon missile, Block II, was developed.

     

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    Brits promised these.

     The Harpoon missile has been integrated on foreign F-16 aircraft and is presently being integrated on foreign F-15 aircraft. In 1998, an advanced upgrade to Harpoon missile, Block II, was developed.

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2022 - 7:09 PM ET #1389

    They also have a limited range.

    75 nmi (139 km), ship-launched Harpoon Block I & Block IC;[citation needed]
    67 nmi (124 km), ship-launched Harpoon Block II;[3]
    120 nmi (220 km), air-launched Block IC

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    They also have a limited range.

    75 nmi (139 km), ship-launched Harpoon Block I & Block IC;[citation needed]
    67 nmi (124 km), ship-launched Harpoon Block II;[3]
    120 nmi (220 km), air-launched Block IC

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: It appears that Ukrainian forces may have to retreat from their last pocket of resistance in Luhansk (East Region of Ukraine) to avoid being captured by advancing Russian troops.(*1) (*1) https://19thnews.org/2022/05/uvalde-school-shooting-texas-attorney-general-suggests-arming-teachers/ At the same time, U.S. is preparing to ship multiple-launch rocket systems (MLRS) to Ukraine in this critical juncture. The MLRS and its lighter-weight version, the HIMARS, can launch as far as 300 kilometers (186 miles), depending on the type of munition.(*2) (*2) https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-05-27-22/h_bc50c84c3c1050d02c1ca8ee95426a83 Ukrainian forces urgently need more long range heavy artilleries as Russians advancing in some part of Donbas. "We are not going to send to Ukraine rocket systems that can strike into Russia,"--Pres. Biden  https://twitter.com/steveholland1/status/1531272770050576387 May be shorter range other than 300km system could transfer to Ukraine, any long range heavy artillery will help to certain degree. Ukraine will get 70km range Guided Multiple Launch Rocket Systems (GMLRS) from the Biden Administration but not that 300km range Army Tactical Missile System (Army TACMS).  https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/ukraine-to-get-guided-rockets-but-not-ones-able-to-reach-far-into-russia Again in the above article, it says "in the ongoing fight for the Donbas, where long-range massed artillery has been a decisive factor". Ukraine will take whatever assists it can get to defend it's military forces, civilians and territory.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: It appears that Ukrainian forces may have to retreat from their last pocket of resistance in Luhansk (East Region of Ukraine) to avoid being captured by advancing Russian troops.(*1) (*1) https://19thnews.org/2022/05/uvalde-school-shooting-texas-attorney-general-suggests-arming-teachers/ At the same time, U.S. is preparing to ship multiple-launch rocket systems (MLRS) to Ukraine in this critical juncture. The MLRS and its lighter-weight version, the HIMARS, can launch as far as 300 kilometers (186 miles), depending on the type of munition.(*2) (*2) https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-05-27-22/h_bc50c84c3c1050d02c1ca8ee95426a83 Ukrainian forces urgently need more long range heavy artilleries as Russians advancing in some part of Donbas. "We are not going to send to Ukraine rocket systems that can strike into Russia,"--Pres. Biden  https://twitter.com/steveholland1/status/1531272770050576387 May be shorter range other than 300km system could transfer to Ukraine, any long range heavy artillery will help to certain degree. Ukraine will get 70km range Guided Multiple Launch Rocket Systems (GMLRS) from the Biden Administration but not that 300km range Army Tactical Missile System (Army TACMS).  https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/ukraine-to-get-guided-rockets-but-not-ones-able-to-reach-far-into-russia Again in the above article, it says "in the ongoing fight for the Donbas, where long-range massed artillery has been a decisive factor". Ukraine will take whatever assists it can get to defend it's military forces, civilians and territory.

     

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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2022 - 8:46 PM ET #1391

    Ukraine team a win a way from being in the world cup in Qatar in November.

    Ukraine beat Scotland in Glasgow and faces Wales...

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    Ukraine beat Scotland in Glasgow and faces Wales...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Brits promised these.  The Harpoon missile has been integrated on foreign F-16 aircraft and is presently being integrated on foreign F-15 aircraft. In 1998, an advanced upgrade to Harpoon missile, Block II, was developed.

    Upon the approval of U.S., U.K. will also send U.S.-made M270 Multiple Launch Rocket Systems, M270 has the range of 80km (50 miles). It should help Ukrainians in the battle of Donbass in addition to High Mobility Artillery Rocket System from U.S. 

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/01/u-k-seeks-u-s-approval-to-send-rocket-system-to-ukraine-00036328

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    Brits promised these.  The Harpoon missile has been integrated on foreign F-16 aircraft and is presently being integrated on foreign F-15 aircraft. In 1998, an advanced upgrade to Harpoon missile, Block II, was developed.

    Upon the approval of U.S., U.K. will also send U.S.-made M270 Multiple Launch Rocket Systems, M270 has the range of 80km (50 miles). It should help Ukrainians in the battle of Donbass in addition to High Mobility Artillery Rocket System from U.S. 

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/01/u-k-seeks-u-s-approval-to-send-rocket-system-to-ukraine-00036328

     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2022 - 5:54 AM ET #1393

    Russia is losing reports Al jeezera 

    The war in Ukraine has demolished the myth of Russian military might, cemented the Western alliance, bifurcated global finance and trade and devastated Ukraine’s economy.

    The conflict, triggered by Russia’s full-scale invasion of its neighbour 100 days ago, has also re-taught military lessons learned decades if not centuries ago, according to experts.

    “We’re realising that firepower is the basic factor determining developments on the battlefield,” said Konstantinos Grivas, a professor of geopolitics and modern weapons systems at the Hellenic Military Academy in Athens, Greece.

    We’ve seen how important artillery is on both sides – nothing terribly advanced – multiple launch rocket systems from the sixties, and rockets … with long-range and high accuracy and high destructive power,” he told Al Jazeera.

    Russia fell back on its superior firepower because it has lacked good strategic planning. A month into the war, it gave up attempting to deliver a knock-out blow to Ukraine.

    “Russia set a broad political goal that couldn’t be achieved with military means … it was impossible with the forces deployed,” says Panayotis Gartzonikas, a former armoured division commander in the Hellenic Army and lecturer at Greece’s National Defence College.

    Source. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/6/3/russia-losing-the-war-in-ukraine-and-uniting-the-west-analysts

     

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    The war in Ukraine has demolished the myth of Russian military might, cemented the Western alliance, bifurcated global finance and trade and devastated Ukraine’s economy.

    The conflict, triggered by Russia’s full-scale invasion of its neighbour 100 days ago, has also re-taught military lessons learned decades if not centuries ago, according to experts.

    “We’re realising that firepower is the basic factor determining developments on the battlefield,” said Konstantinos Grivas, a professor of geopolitics and modern weapons systems at the Hellenic Military Academy in Athens, Greece.

    We’ve seen how important artillery is on both sides – nothing terribly advanced – multiple launch rocket systems from the sixties, and rockets … with long-range and high accuracy and high destructive power,” he told Al Jazeera.

    Russia fell back on its superior firepower because it has lacked good strategic planning. A month into the war, it gave up attempting to deliver a knock-out blow to Ukraine.

    “Russia set a broad political goal that couldn’t be achieved with military means … it was impossible with the forces deployed,” says Panayotis Gartzonikas, a former armoured division commander in the Hellenic Army and lecturer at Greece’s National Defence College.

    Source. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/6/3/russia-losing-the-war-in-ukraine-and-uniting-the-west-analysts

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2022 - 6:21 AM ET #1394

    second strategy appeared to be an encirclement of all of Ukraine’s forces in the country’s east, as it established bridgeheads at Popanska and Izyum from which to effect a pincer movement. That, too, appears to have been abandoned in favour of a direct bludgeoning of Severdonetsk, the easternmost city in Ukrainian hands, and smaller encirclements elsewhere.

    Sometimes Russia has lacked tactical competence. Ukrainian forces decimated the Russian 74th Motorised Rifle Brigade last month as it attempted to cross the Siverskyi Donets river in eastern Ukraine. Russian forces were caught in transit and reportedly suffered heavy losses. There have been reports of Russian mutinies amid the incompetence.

    “Russia’s conventional military threat to Europe was overestimated,” said Grivas.

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    second strategy appeared to be an encirclement of all of Ukraine’s forces in the country’s east, as it established bridgeheads at Popanska and Izyum from which to effect a pincer movement. That, too, appears to have been abandoned in favour of a direct bludgeoning of Severdonetsk, the easternmost city in Ukrainian hands, and smaller encirclements elsewhere.

    Sometimes Russia has lacked tactical competence. Ukrainian forces decimated the Russian 74th Motorised Rifle Brigade last month as it attempted to cross the Siverskyi Donets river in eastern Ukraine. Russian forces were caught in transit and reportedly suffered heavy losses. There have been reports of Russian mutinies amid the incompetence.

    “Russia’s conventional military threat to Europe was overestimated,” said Grivas.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2022 - 8:29 PM ET #1395

    Russian casualties.

     

    31,000.

    Initial invasion force.

    100000

    Equipment losses.

    Artillery systems – 661 (+14)

    Multiple launch rocket systems – 207 (+2)

    Anti-aircraft systems – 95 (+1)

    Warplanes – 210 (+2)

    Helicopters – 175 (+1)

    Drones of operational and tactical level – 535 (+14)

    Cruise missiles – 121 (+1)

    Warships/boats – 13 (+0)

    Vehicles and fuel tankers – 2,329 (+4)

    Special equipment – 51 (+0)

    ..... 

    Looks like it's circling the drain.

    Any army officer could view this as Putin is getting kicked hard and repeatedly in the nutz.

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    Russian casualties.

     

    31,000.

    Initial invasion force.

    100000

    Equipment losses.

    Artillery systems – 661 (+14)

    Multiple launch rocket systems – 207 (+2)

    Anti-aircraft systems – 95 (+1)

    Warplanes – 210 (+2)

    Helicopters – 175 (+1)

    Drones of operational and tactical level – 535 (+14)

    Cruise missiles – 121 (+1)

    Warships/boats – 13 (+0)

    Vehicles and fuel tankers – 2,329 (+4)

    Special equipment – 51 (+0)

    ..... 

    Looks like it's circling the drain.

    Any army officer could view this as Putin is getting kicked hard and repeatedly in the nutz.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2022 - 8:46 PM ET #1396

    putin plays the part of governor talk.

    We all know how that ended....

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    putin plays the part of governor talk.

    We all know how that ended....

     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2022 - 3:37 AM ET #1397

    Ukrainian head of the Luhansk region Serhiy Gaidai said that Russian troops were making advances only with heavy artillery, and that once Ukraine had enough Western long-range weapons, it would be able to force the Russians to retreat.*

    *https://www.voanews.com/a/fighting-rages-in-eastern-ukraine-on-100th-day-of-war/6603062.html

    Ukrainian military has begun training to operate the newly approved US and UK advanced long-range missile systems.   

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    Ukrainian head of the Luhansk region Serhiy Gaidai said that Russian troops were making advances only with heavy artillery, and that once Ukraine had enough Western long-range weapons, it would be able to force the Russians to retreat.*

    *https://www.voanews.com/a/fighting-rages-in-eastern-ukraine-on-100th-day-of-war/6603062.html

    Ukrainian military has begun training to operate the newly approved US and UK advanced long-range missile systems.   

     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2022 - 7:19 AM ET #1398

    Without artillery Russians are in retreat.

     

    Ukrainian forces are targeting long range artillery  systems.

    With the guided missiles and without heavy artillery support ground troops will be forced to retreat as they did when they tried to take the capital.

    When the Kyiv offensive collapsed Russia with Drew to Russia and Belarus. Operation frozen tin turd.

    Operation we can't cross the bridge destroyed a full brigade of mechanized infantry.

     

     

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    Without artillery Russians are in retreat.

     

    Ukrainian forces are targeting long range artillery  systems.

    With the guided missiles and without heavy artillery support ground troops will be forced to retreat as they did when they tried to take the capital.

    When the Kyiv offensive collapsed Russia with Drew to Russia and Belarus. Operation frozen tin turd.

    Operation we can't cross the bridge destroyed a full brigade of mechanized infantry.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2022 - 9:09 AM ET #1399

    an_speakUkrainian forces seeking to export scrap military equipmentrussian tanks for sale...barely broke in''''

     Used helicopter and mig 29 parting out call with needs.... 

     

    he Ukrainian Association of Secondary Metals is studying the world experience in converting military equipment into scrap metal.

    This was reported by Interfax-Ukraine.

    "World experience in the processing of military equipment. We are already studying the processing technologies that will be presented to members and partners of our association," - said in a statement.

    Valentyn Makarenko, Chairman of the Board of the Interpipe Vtormet Waste Processing Plant, said that there was a shortage of scrap metal in Ukraine, but now it has been added

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    an_speakUkrainian forces seeking to export scrap military equipmentrussian tanks for sale...barely broke in''''

     Used helicopter and mig 29 parting out call with needs.... 

     

    he Ukrainian Association of Secondary Metals is studying the world experience in converting military equipment into scrap metal.

    This was reported by Interfax-Ukraine.

    "World experience in the processing of military equipment. We are already studying the processing technologies that will be presented to members and partners of our association," - said in a statement.

    Valentyn Makarenko, Chairman of the Board of the Interpipe Vtormet Waste Processing Plant, said that there was a shortage of scrap metal in Ukraine, but now it has been added

     
     
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    sleep2 Swords to ploughshares (or plowshares) is a concept in which military weapons or technologies are converted for peaceful civilian applications.

    Seems that piece is being housed at the un.

    Yevgeny Vuchetich.... sleep2

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    sleep2 Swords to ploughshares (or plowshares) is a concept in which military weapons or technologies are converted for peaceful civilian applications.

    Seems that piece is being housed at the un.

    Yevgeny Vuchetich.... sleep2

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