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Ukraine peace negotiations update.
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Russian President Vladimir Putin will meet Trump in ankorage Alaska. To discuss high level negotiations on ending the war in Ukraine. Although Zelensky is not in attendance, the leaders will come to an understanding of Putin position on the ear and immediately upon a cease fire strategy to further dialogue with larger parties, JD vance met with European leaders to come to a formal conclusion of their positions.
Zelensky has met over the last several months with all leaders of the United States and Europe his positions are clear.
Washington has to bring the three sides to some compromise of what can be done to end this conflict.
This is a point of history, can the world come to a formal understanding in these cease fire strategy and end of the theater in Ukraine.
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Putin has phoned Kim un in addressing the upcoming summit with Trump.
North Korean leader Kim Jong Un and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin held a phone call to discuss their joint war against Ukraine and exchange greetings on the 80th anniversary of Korea’s liberation from Japan, according to DPRK state media on Wednesday.
The Kremlin also reported that Putin “shared information with Kim Jong Un in the context of the upcoming talks with U.S. President Donald Trump” during their call Tuesday, but the Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) readout did not include this detail.
Putin and Trump are set to meet in Alaska this Friday (Aug. 15), where discussions could cover the issue of thousands of North Korean troops currently fighting for Moscow as well as the DPRK’s extensive weapons transfers to help Russia’s invasion.
According to the KCNA readout published Wednesday, Putin praised “the courage, heroism and spirit of sacrifice displayed by Korean People’s Army soldiers in the process of liberating Kursk territory.”
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Ankorage military base set and prepared for summit.
WASHINGTON (AP) — In an ironic twist, President Donald Trump is set to discuss the war in Ukraine with Russian leader Vladimir Putin at a military base in Alaska that was crucial to countering the Soviet Union during the height of Cold War and still plays a role today.
The meeting is scheduled to take place Friday at Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson in Anchorage, according to a White House official who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss internal planning.
The base created by merging Elmendorf Air Force Base and Army Fort Richardson in 2010 has played a key strategic role in monitoring and deterring the Soviet Union during much of the Cold War.
Throughout its long history, the base hosted large numbers of aircraft and oversaw operations of a variety of early warning radar sites that were aimed at detecting Soviet military activity and any possible nuclear launches. It earned the motto “Top Cover for North America” at this time, according to the base website.
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Washington, Trump said there was a 25% chance that the summit would fail, but he also floated the idea that, if the meeting succeeds, he could bring Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to Alaska for a subsequent, three-way meeting.
In a radio interview with Fox News, Trump also said he might be willing to stay in Alaska longer, depending on what happens with Putin.
Meanwhile, Zelenskyy and other European leaders worked to ensure their interests are taken into account when Trump and Putin meet in Anchorage.
Source associated press.
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Any deal will be a bad one if Ukraine also has to pledge not to join NATO. Because that means that Russia will be back for the rest of it. Now if Putin was leading Ukraine the deal signed would be for Ukraine to pledge not to join NATO, and then he would join NATO……And Trump would applaud that move like a seal at SeaWorld!…….This is purely Trumply theater in service of Putin!
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@nature1970
Most people would say "we have a 75%" chance to succeed rather than a 25% of failure. He's an odd fucker for sure.
No one other than Ukraine & Russia have taken this war seriously. If countries had, it would have been over years ago. Identify the problem & eliminate the problem kind of thing is my point of view which has pissed off some in here. Many have no idea how terrible war is & the damage it does for generations of people.
Nothing prepares you for war. Not the best weaponry or the best training or the best tactics...nothing. You are scared all the fucking time & that's unnatural. At least it was for me. Saw things that didn't exist; heard things when no one else did. Imagine being scared all the time.
Things like hot food or a hot shower are luxuries you begin to cherish like never before. People are here today & gone tomorrow regularly. You learn to hate like you never did in your life. Nighttime is horrific & the sun can't come up soon enough.
But we continue to fuck around with each other all over the world. We haven't learned a damn thing about war after war after war.
I'll never understand it.
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@joe pockets
This is how conflict began.
Ukraine,Belarus, Russia , made a compliant black sea north sea bilateral alliance pledging not to join NATO and focus on the Baltic -russo terms
Ukraine broke treaty when regime shifted to Western interests. The area of Dunbas oblique has been in rebellion for nearly 12 years. As pro Russian nationals and pro Western culture collided.
Russian Soviet propaganda is the pro Western culture was fascist Nazi.... Today it is a widely held belief of Zelensky is kin to Hitler by common Russian nationals.
Then the war. The war began in a straight pincher movement to take all land east of Kyiv, this has the mineral and energy grid as well as black sea ports of Odessa and southern Romanian port.
The goal was to acquire the black sea everything east of Belarus and negotiating terms of surrender.
For breaking treaty and alignment with NATO to submission of paperwork to join alliance this is why Russia advanced , the thought of NATO weapons systems 70 miles from Moscow in hostile territory drive the Kremlin to engage in war.
The war Soviet went for it all and was pushed back
The modern Soviet mechanized infantry is devised as air superior supremacy gives advancing troops an advantage on ground. The initial push was repelled and Russia forces collapsed east setting up within miles of where they are encampment.
The cities were slaughter to Russians, waves after waves of Russian soldiers were exterminated in national zaran Odessa that the soldiers killed now equal all war losses by soviet's since 1900, Russia losses are staggering. Every level officer and soldier has been eliminated by over a million.
North Korean , Iranian and Wagner soldiers included the heavens no soul count at this point.
The air superior defense was shortly lived as drone capacity applifies, the flag ship of black sea fleet The Moscow lies buried under 1000 feet of ocean crew and all. Massive mini g began in Odessa destroying moscows capacity to resupply arms, Wagner mutainy and matched on Moscow, at one moment having control of base in Russia and 3000 nuclear missles.
The leader of that group The Chef has died....
The supply and resources given to Ukraine has been utilize to stop Russia to the no man's zone that has been in place for 2 years.
Russia has used North Korean mercenary given by Kim Un to retake some of Russia land captured.
Iran and North Korea as well as China has given men systems weapons and devices to Russia for war effort against the west.
England,France, American citizens and Western interests have give Kyiv significant money,supplies weapons systems medical services and diplomatic support through this bitter time .
Us stradegy is to act as a moderator, first securing a platform of what each party wants on a wish list of a perfect world. And Trump will then ask England ,France Germany and the European Union what is their interest. Then they go back to Zelensky and Trump convenes with Putin and the dialogue begins as it plays out at the UN security council meeting in New York, Switzerland, and Nairobi Kenya for in south station.
So what's the over / under on a cease fire in Ukraine within 2 weeks.
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I am glad to see someone over there take this conflict serious - so it isn’t to ruin that - 
but there is pretty far from Ukraine border to Moscow - pretty much all of the baltics are closer
I would guess there is something like 300-400 miles - not 70 - and it is actually closer to north Ukraine and not east - which is the regions they want
Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
@nature1970 Most people would say "we have a 75%" chance to succeed rather than a 25% of failure. He's an odd fucker for sure. No one other than Ukraine & Russia have taken this war seriously. If countries had, it would have been over years ago. Identify the problem & eliminate the problem kind of thing is my point of view which has pissed off some in here. Many have no idea how terrible war is & the damage it does for generations of people. Nothing prepares you for war. Not the best weaponry or the best training or the best tactics...nothing. You are scared all the fucking time & that's unnatural. At least it was for me. Saw things that didn't exist; heard things when no one else did. Imagine being scared all the time. Things like hot food or a hot shower are luxuries you begin to cherish like never before. People are here today & gone tomorrow regularly. You learn to hate like you never did in your life. Nighttime is horrific & the sun can't come up soon enough. But we continue to fuck around with each other all over the world. We haven't learned a damn thing about war after war after war. I'll never understand it.
@nature1970 Most people would say "we have a 75%" chance to succeed rather than a 25% of failure. He's an odd fucker for sure. No one other than Ukraine & Russia have taken this war seriously. If countries had, it would have been over years ago. Identify the problem & eliminate the problem kind of thing is my point of view which has pissed off some in here. Many have no idea how terrible war is & the damage it does for generations of people. Nothing prepares you for war. Not the best weaponry or the best training or the best tactics...nothing. You are scared all the fucking time & that's unnatural. At least it was for me. Saw things that didn't exist; heard things when no one else did. Imagine being scared all the time. Things like hot food or a hot shower are luxuries you begin to cherish like never before. People are here today & gone tomorrow regularly. You learn to hate like you never did in your life. Nighttime is horrific & the sun can't come up soon enough. But we continue to fuck around with each other all over the world. We haven't learned a damn thing about war after war after war. I'll never understand it.
It seems this way. Sheeple led to slaughter, for what a cloaked raptor isn't 75 miles away it 125 miles away in Poland
Putin saw weakness in Biden as he did in Obama.
Hillary scared him.
Trump seems he can do business with, but this war was to last 3 weeks and never escaped the Biden presidency.
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Putin, who spoke to the media onstage with Trump, said an agreement was reached that will “pave the path toward peace in Ukraine.” Trump, however, followed by saying “there’s no deal until there’s a deal.” Neither president provided any substantive details, nor did they take any questions from reporters.
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ZELENSKYY VISIT: Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskyy will visit President Donald Trump in Washington on Monday to discuss "ending the war."
'NO DEAL': President Donald Trump returned to Washington early today after failing to secure an agreement on Ukraine with Russian President Vladimir Putin at yesterday's summit in Alaska.
ANOTHER MEETING?: Trump said in an interview with Fox News before departing Anchorage that a meeting between Putin and Zelenskyy will be arranged by the two countries, and that he'll attend as well. No details on timing or location were provided.
INTERNATIONAL CALL: Trump conducted a multilateral phone call with European leaders last night including Zelenskyy after the summit.
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ZELENSKYY VISIT: Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskyy will visit President Donald Trump in Washington on Monday to discuss "ending the war."
'NO DEAL': President Donald Trump returned to Washington early today after failing to secure an agreement on Ukraine with Russian President Vladimir Putin at yesterday's summit in Alaska.
ANOTHER MEETING?: Trump said in an interview with Fox News before departing Anchorage that a meeting between Putin and Zelenskyy will be arranged by the two countries, and that he'll attend as well. No details on timing or location were provided.
INTERNATIONAL CALL: Trump conducted a multilateral phone call with European leaders last night including Zelenskyy after the summit.
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It was embarrassing to watch US soldiers kneeled to roll the red carpet for the war criminal so that Trump and Putin posed for pictures , This was a huge propaganda win for the Kremlin because Russia avoided the sanctions Trump promised…..Tump was played like a fool again by Putin! 
How can the White House and Fox spin this fiasco! 
…….Maybe Karoline could as the press for more Epstein Questions !
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@nature1970
Trump has been leaning towards Russian interests every inch of the war end negotiations….And it obvious to the world! If he could Trump would dump NATO and saddle up with Putin in a New York minute! On this matter from day one Trump has been a complete Bafoon! Joe Biden could have sat in the Oval Office sucking his thumb and let the Senate and House who before November supported Ukraine and do a better job! This war in Ukraine is a watershed moment in history, marking a potential turning point in global politics and international relations. It has triggered significant shifts in areas like European security, transatlantic relations! And Trump and his administration have coward to a Devil on earth!
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Gotta laugh at this 12 minute meeting. The tax payer dollars that were wasted on this phony bullshit meeting is comical. There was zero reason this meeting couldnt have been on the phone or video. Total bullshit meeting for trump to distract his gullible sheep from the destruction he is doing to this country.
Tough guy trump got bitch slapped once again by putin. The whole meeting was probably telling trump to shut his mouth or all the dirt on him would be released.
What happened to trumps promise of ending the war in 24 hours if he was elected? All i can say is every maga moron that believed that bullshit are some of the biggest gullible fools in our country. Please do not go to any car dealerships alone, cause by time salesman gets done with you, your house and bank account will be signed over to the dealership and you wont have purchased a car 
Best advice for you maga dimwits is go enroll in grade school and start your education all over again. This time pay attention
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
No Cease Fire No Deadlines No Sanctions No Severe Consequences Do Nothing Donnie Does Nothing Again!
wait, he did something. He told Ukraine that Russia wants more of Ukraine land and that they should make the dealNo Cease Fire No Deadlines No Sanctions No Severe Consequences Do Nothing Donnie Does Nothing Again!
Remember when donny deucebag said if he was in office put in would have never even invaded Ukraine . The maga morons and anybody that believed don the cons bullshit, don't have a functioning brain
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His statement about us getting peace if we just give in to Russian demands actually makes him even worse - than if he just did nothing - because that shows he hasn’t even bothered looking into Russian history - before giving us advise what to do (not that it is surprising but it feels a bit like being spit in the face - when someone not knowing the dynamics says it is your fault you are still being attacked)
Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
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