trump's economy failing; worse than Obama's last 3

Haha. Sure you do. Projection much on the "false agenda." Hilarious. 

You consistently display that you are living in an alternate reality. 

No we are not recovering in the least. Clearly you do not have a clue. Businesses are shutting down everywhere again. Guess you are not paying attention to current events lately. You think that is a sign of recovery? A proven Trump???? His track record as a businessman and President is not strong in least? He has a proven record of corruption, bankruptcies, and deceit. He is proven alright, proven as a fraud. 

 Link https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/feb/18/barack-obama-jealous-donald-trumps-economy/

Facts...........

As statted..We cannot compare Obama's last three years to President Trump's economy in his first three years..

The reason :One month after President Trump's third year in office..Obama came out and took credit for the Economic Boom taking place under the Trump Administration...an out and out  spin of historical truths..

So,Obama's economy his last three years are to be compared to Obama's economy the first three years of the President Trump administration..since Obama took credit for it ,.. Obama is a credit stealer..

If, anyone say's President Trump's economy is failing..what they are saying in reality is Obama's economy in President Trumps 1st three years is failing...

A renowned IVY LEAGUE University research team at Columbia,

found that up to 83% of US deaths might very well have been PREVENTED

had adolf trump acted responsibly.  It follows logically, the fallout from the systemic

covid-19 issues we have now - including the impact on economies - are in very large part

a result of FAILURE of the trump fed government to protect its citizens.

Early DENIALS and total lack of preparation (the depleted national stockpile; ignoring Obama's 67 page pandemic playbook; a national unified & cohesive strategy WITH the states) and in particular a president who apparently thinks his beliefs are more accurate and far more worthy than actual SCIENCE - are what got us in such a horrific place.  This is already well documented.

Sure we were going to lose some people to covid-19.  Every country has.  That was unavoidable.  But the EXTENT to which it's happening here - thanks to an inept federal response - is nothing short of criminal.

So, rather than compare actual economies, which is the point,

as usual, the trump-supporter that realizes he doesnt have a case

reverts to deflection.  Typical.

In this case, apparently exalted President Obama as a truth-teller!!!

Cool ! Because that means anything Obama has sted about trump

and his admin is also fair game to be procalimed as FULL TRUTH!!!

If, you really believe Obama is a truth teller, then when he took credit for the Economic Boom taking place under the Trump Administrations first three years ... is the truth,,,than like I posted.. Obama's last thee years cannot be compared to President Trump's first three years ,,because it would be Obama years against Obama years..

So, as such...this thread is of no consequence or significance...   

Actually the opposite  holds more truth.

Smart people would rather NOT re-elect the guy LARGELY RESPONSIBLE for them losing their jobs in the first place.

As for unemployment, I can conceed that during the time of his administration the unemployment level fell to a record low of 3.5% ....and since it occurred on his watch, then you and other trump supporters give him credit for that.

However, with respect to polite debate, it should also be noted that trump was handed a sweet deal in January 2017. Obama had got that unemployment rate down to 4.6% when he left office -- which is well below the historical averages!  A remarkable achievement given how deep that recession was!  Obama lowerd the unemployment rate from 10% down to 4.6%.  A hard earned improvement during very tough times, of 5.4 percentage points.

trump inherited an already humming econopmy and lowered it  further by just 1.1 percentage points.  I won't say it's nothing, but it pales in comparison.

It's very much akin to the previous Republican administration handing the ball to new QB, Obama, 4th & long inside his own 3 - already DOWN 21-0 in the first Q....then through hard work grinding out the tough yards, Obama ties the score at 21... and late in the 3rdQ Obama marches the team from the 15 the length of the field to the 7 yard line where he exits the game for trump. In 4 plays trump gets those final 7 yards and pushes Team America across the goal line. The home crowd goes bananas with wild excitement at their new found HERO & SAVIOUR for his awesome skill & leadership. America is finally winning - ALL THANKS TO TRUMP alone....Our Messiah!

According the Bloomberg’s Recovery Tracker index, of the 10 economic indicators, all but 2 were improving as of this week.

All of the financial indicators were improving.

In fact there were many ‘experts’ that were amazed at how quickly the economy was gaining steam again.  They all were so happy early on to say the recovery would drag on for years.

Sure, now that the media has switched from reporting deaths to cases — and coerced areas to lockdown again — we may see a drop off again.

But Trump is still the best candidate to improve it, yet again.

He is not the the only businessman to fail, by the way.  Most businesses fail.  We are looking for over-comers and longterm successes.  Anyone that can dispute he is both of those is being purposefully disingenuous.

Absolutely, the Left and the Media are gleeful when any ‘sign’ the economy looks bad can be highlighted — they can spin it to look bad on Trump.

The charts CNBC had online (4 or 5, I think) all showed a dramatic uptick in their indicators.

And many others show this.  You have to actually look for them — the media will not present them.

Look at the confidence and comfort indicators, for example.

Yes. Some of the mom and pop places are gone now and even some of the brand names.  All needlessly.  But the Left and the Media can spin it to blame Trump.

As the virus dies out it should not be too big of a challenge to find something else to blame on him.  Instead of being happy of how well things are — they always find something negative to key in on.

But it is hard to reason with irrationality.

Use some common sense man. Of course, it is improving because the country was shut down for two months and all businesses were closed. It it not hard to "Improve" on an economy in which 90% of the businesses were closed for two months. The economy was not and is not in good shape. Try and justify it any way you want though. Things are not well. You realize that businesses are shutting down again in three of the biggest states in the country again now right? Florida, Texas, and California. Please get a clue man. Keeping thinking the economy is strong right now. Too funny. 

I see no links to support  your contention

And that virus "dying out" thing isn't working out too well for you and the other Trumpers right now. 

Why on Earth do you think Trump is in panic mode to try and rush for schools and businesses to re-open right now? I can tell you it isn't because economic conditions are looking good. 

Yeah it took Obama 2 terms.  But he lowered it from 10% to 4.6% - well below historical average. And he did it starting from the WORST & DEEPEST economic recession in 75 years!  A remarkable achievement of not only a net 5.4 percentage pt reduction but considering where he was forced to start.  And that included an opposition party majority in both chambers for 6 of his 8 years! Any fool can see this.

trump was gift-wrapped a humming economy, then a majority in both chambers for 2 of his 3 years,  with a better than historical aveage 4.6% unemployment from Obama, and with that great fortune handed him he lowered it how much compared to Obama??????

There are some in the other threads. But I told you who had them.  For your edification, you can now look them up.  

Good to keep up with this stuff. 

Curious, if I repost them would you actually read them?  Then would it change your mind if you saw empirical data?

I think you are mixing up several topics at once.  Maybe that is where your confusion is.  

No, the economy is not where it was.  

No, no one said it was ‘strong’ right now.

Yes, it is recovering. 

Yes, it is recovering quicker than most thought. 

Yes, it may slow back down.  

Yes, Trump is still the guy that has proved to have the lowest unemployment and had a roaring economy.  Biden shows no indications he could do it.  

Deezy... that's  a 3 roller ! 

Seriously,  when you say " not worth my time," it means you have nothing intelligent to respond back to Raiders with

Is that what it means to you? None of your points show any sense of reality or intelligence...similarly to Raiders. Just unsubstantiated claims. No need for the back and forths. You two will never acknowledge reality. Raiders is the same guy that is posting that masks do not help against COVID19..enough said. 

Well said  , Slim.. 

Agreed.  trump stands as only the 3rd IMPEACHED president in history; is ranked in the bottom 4 of all US presidents by 2 large groups of political scholars and presidential historians; has one of the all time WORST job approval records for any president; is the ONLY president *EVER* to *FAIL* to achieve a mean average among several polls of at least 50% at some point in his presidency;  currently holds an abysmal job approval hoovering around 40% (mean avg) ranking the lowest; is the only president to reject science, causing the deaths of over 136,000 Americans; only president to repeatedly denounce his own intel agencies reporting on Russia - including bounties placed on American/allied soldiers; only president to recommend buying Greenland, nuking hurricanes, injecting toxic disinfectants, tout an unproven drug REPEATEDLY, and tell his admin/states to STOP testing in the middle of a serious pandemic because that would make the infection rate go down...

Game set match. 

Of course they do. So do I.  Foolish not to.  We had football then!!!

But to IGNORE where we are NOW and somehow proclaim "victory" because it used to be good, is beyond silly. Tell that to the Baltimore Ravens.  I suppose they weren't actually defeated, um, because they used to be good with a 14-2 record

Not sure I have seen any state in need REJECT federal help, provided it doesn't come with strings attached, or is otherwise a poor solution to a serious problem.

Actually, Fubah....  ""the largely responsible "" part falls on China, but thanks for playing.

You DEMS pretend the rest of the world hasn't suffered economically from the Virus 

WOw!  When you drink the conservative Kool-aid you don't just settle for a dignified cup, you swill the entire pitcher!

Of course we have started to recover from trump's pandemic DISASTER (well except for those now and soon to be in the hospital because of trump)  Recovery at some point is a universal given, regardless WHO is in the WH. 

A proven trump?????

You mean the proven impeached guy? The guy proven to downplay & deny the pandemic science, ultimately causing as many as 83% of the resultant deaths by covid? The same guy PROVEN to defend symbols of racism and statues and of confederate traitors who fought AGAINST the USA, killing hundreds of thousands of US soldiers??? And proven to refuse to hold Russia accountable for virtually anything??? The guy who has stood by watching increasing wealth gap disparity in just 3 years - soon to be even WORSE than that!!! The same jerkoff who has PROVEN to run up the national debt to $26.5 TRILLION (despite his promises to the contrary) and an annual interest payment of $386 Billion - both all-time records of FAILURE.  The same guy with a PROVEN  penchant for lying/mistruths/falsehoods nearly 20,000 times in less than a full term?? THAT A$$HOLE???

A "disproven Biden" .... HUH????   Show us your alleged proof.  BTW, trump still trails Biden in the minds of multiple-thousands of Americans responding to public opinion polls, today.  They may all change their minds on election day, but RIGHT NOW, they don't favor him or believe his BS one bit......well the majority.....the minority who are partisans, rednecks, and bigots of course LOVE THE GUY for all of the above...

6 confirmed bankruptcies

3 failed marriages

2 affairs with pornstars

2 separate investigations into him

1 IMPEACHMENT that will stay on record forever

His charitable association accused of FRAUD and orderd to pay $20 million fine.

The worst record of massive departures from his administration in one term in US history

136,000 dead Americans; untold numbers who survived after becoming gawdawful sick

IF YOU really believe Obama is a truth teller then every NEGATIVE thing he has said about trump (which is plaenty) is the TRUTH according to YOUR logic.  Bottom line.  Can't have it both ways.  Either YOU believe Obama or YOU don't.

I believe Obama if he says trump inherited a great economy from him, because that is a well-known fact.