• Forums
  • Best Betting Sites
  • Sportsbook Promos
  • Best Sports Betting Apps
  • NFL Betting Forum
  • NBA Betting Forum
  • MLB Betting Forum
  • NHL Betting Forum
  • NCAAF Betting Forum
  • NCAAB Betting Forum
  • Soccer Betting Forum
  • Tennis Betting Forum
  • General Discussion
  • Help Forum
  • Guidelines
  • FAQ
  • Forum Updates
    Covers Logo
    Covers App
    Faster picks. Smarter bets.
    All in the NEW Covers App
    Download on the App Store Download on the Google Play Store
    • Sports
      • NFL
        • Back
        • NFL
        • NFL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NFL Picks
        • NFL Prediction Prices
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NCAAF
        • Back
        • NCAAF
        • NCAAF Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NCAAF Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NBA
        • Back
        • NBA
        • NBA Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NBA Picks
        • Injuries
      • NCAAB
        • Back
        • NCAAB
        • NCAAB Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • NCAAB Picks
        • Injuries
      • MLB
        • Back
        • MLB
        • MLB Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • MLB Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NHL
        • Back
        • NHL
        • NHL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NHL Picks
        • Injuries
      • Soccer
      • UFC
      • WNBA
        • Back
        • WNBA
        • WNBA Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • WNBA Picks
        • Injuries
      • CFL
        • Back
        • CFL
        • CFL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • CFL Picks
      • Golf
        • Back
        • Golf
        • Golf Home
        • Golf Odds
        • Masters Odds
        • PGA Championship Odds
        • US Open Odds
        • British Open Odds
        • Ryder Cup Odds
        • Golf Picks
    • Odds
      • All Odds
      • NFL
      • NCAAF
      • NBA
      • NCAAB
      • MLB
      • NHL
      • Golf
      • Soccer Odds
        • Back
        • Soccer Odds
        • MLS Odds
        • Champions League Odds
        • Premier League Odds
      • UFC
      • WNBA
      • CFL
      • Election Odds
      • Futures
        • Back
        • Futures
        • NFL
        • NBA
        • MLB
        • NHL
        • NCAAB
        • NCAAF
      • Sports Odds History
      • Politics
        • Back
        • Politics
        • Politics Home
        • Presidential Election Odds
        • Midterm Election Odds
        • House Midterm Odds
        • Senate Midterm Odds
        • Texas Midterm Odds
        • Michigan Midterm Odds
    • Picks
      • All Picks
      • NFL
      • NBA
      • NHL
      • MLB
      • NCAAF
      • NCAAB
      • Golf
      • WNBA
      • CFL
      • User Picks
      • Team User Picks
      • Consensus Picks
        • Back
        • Consensus Picks
        • All Consensus Picks
        • NFL
        • NBA
        • NHL
        • MLB
        • NCAAF
        • NCAAB
        • CFL
        • WNBA
        • Consensus FAQ
        • Public Money
    • Prop Projections
      • NFL
      • NBA
      • MLB
      • NHL
    • Betting
      • US Betting Sites
      • Canada Betting Sites
      • Sportsbook Reviews
      • States
        • Back
        • States
        • US Legal Tracker
        • Revenue Tracker
        • Arizona
        • Arkansas
        • California
        • Colorado
        • Connecticut
        • DC
        • Florida
        • Georgia
        • Illinois
        • Indiana
        • Iowa
        • Kansas
        • Kentucky
        • Louisiana
        • Maine
        • Maryland
        • Massachusetts
        • Michigan
        • Mississippi
        • Missouri
        • Nevada
        • New Hampshire
        • New Jersey
        • New York
        • North Carolina
        • Ohio
        • Oregon
        • Pennsylvania
        • Tennessee
        • Texas
        • Vermont
        • Virginia
        • West Virginia
        • Wyoming
      • Provinces
        • Back
        • Provinces
        • Alberta
        • British Columbia
        • Manitoba
        • New Brunswick
        • Newfoundland and Labrador
        • Northwest Territories
        • Nova Scotia
        • Nunavut
        • Ontario
        • Prince Edward Island
        • Quebec (English)
        • Quebec (francais)
        • Saskatchewan
        • Yukon
      • By Sport
        • Back
        • By Sport
        • Baseball
        • Basketball
        • Boxing
        • College Football
        • F1
        • Football
        • Super Bowl
        • Golf
        • Hockey
        • Horse Racing
        • March Madness
        • Soccer
        • UFC
        • World Cup
      • Betting Apps
        • Back
        • Betting Apps
        • Best Sports Betting Apps USA
        • Ontario Sports Betting Apps
      • Rest of World
        • Back
        • Rest of World
        • UK Betting Offers
          • Back
          • UK Betting Offers
          • UK Betting Sites
          • bet365 Bonus Code UK
          • 888Sport Promo Code UK
          • William Hill Sign up Offer
          • Betway Sign up Offer
          • BetVictor Bonus Code UK
      • Betting Guides
        • Back
        • Betting Guides
        • All Guides
        • Glossary
        • Betting Calculators
          • Back
          • Betting Calculators
          • Odds Converter
          • Parlay Calculator
        • Futures Betting Guide
        • Moneyline Betting Guide
        • Over/Under Betting Guide
        • Parlay Betting Guide
        • Point Spread Betting Guide
        • Prop Betting Guide
        • Sports Betting Guides
          • Back
          • Sports Betting Guides
          • How To Bet On Sports Guide
          • NFL Betting Guide
          • NHL Betting Guide
          • NBA Betting Guide
          • MLB Betting Guide
          • NCAAB Betting Guide
          • NCAAF Betting Guide
          • Golf Betting Guide
          • Tennis Betting Guide
        • Teaser Betting Guide
      • Betting News
        • Back
        • Betting News
        • All News
        • Industry News
        • Podcasts
        • Covers Videos
        • Covers Writers
        • Offers & Boosts
    • Promos
      • Sportsbook Promos
      • Canada Sportsbook Promos
      • Bonuses By Sportsbook
        • Back
        • Bonuses By Sportsbook
        • bet365 Bonus Code
        • BET99 Promo Code
        • BetMGM Bonus Code
        • BetRivers Bonus Code
        • Caesars Sportsbook Promo
        • DraftKings Promo Code
        • Fanatics Sportsbook Promo
        • FanDuel Promo Code
        • Hard Rock Bet Promo Code
        • Sports Interaction Promo
        • Stake Promo Code
        • theScore Bet Promo Code
        • TonyBet Promo Code
      • Bonuses By Region
        • Back
        • Bonuses By Region
        • Arkansas Promos
        • Arizona Promos
        • Colorado Promos
        • Connecticut Promos
        • DC Promos
        • Illinois Promos
        • Indiana Promos
        • Iowa Promos
        • Kansas Promos
        • Kentucky Promos
        • Louisiana Promos
        • Maine Promos
        • Maryland Promos
        • Massachusetts Promos
        • Michigan Promos
        • Missouri Promos
        • New Jersey Promos
        • New York Promos
        • North Carolina Promos
        • Ohio Promos
        • Pennsylvania Promos
        • Tennessee Promos
        • Vermont Promos
        • Virginia Promos
        • West Virginia Promos
        • Wyoming Promos
    • Forum & Contests
      • All Forums
      • NFL Betting Forum
      • MLB Betting Forum
      • NCAAB Betting Forum
      • NCAAF Betting Forum
      • NBA Betting Forum
      • NHL Betting Forum
      • Soccer Betting Forum
      • Contests
        • Back
        • Contests
        • Contests Home
        • Streak Survivor
        • King of Covers
        • My Contests
    • Casino
      • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Back
        • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Sweepstakes No-Deposit Bonuses
        • Sweepstakes Promos
          • Back
          • Sweepstakes Promos
          • Card Crush
          • Casino.click
          • Chanced Casino
          • Crown Coins Casino
          • FreeSpin Casino
          • LoneStar
          • McLuck
          • Mega Bonanza Casino
          • PlayFame
          • Pulsz
          • Stake.us
      • US Casinos
        • Back
        • US Casinos
        • US Online Casinos
        • US Online Casino Bonuses
        • Casino Promos
          • Back
          • Casino Promos
          • bet365 Casino Promo Code
          • BetRivers Casino Promo
          • Borgata Casino Bonus Code
          • Caesars Casino Bonus Code
          • DraftKings Casino Promo
          • Fanatics Casino Promo
          • FanDuel Casino Promo Code
          • Golden Nugget Casino Promo
          • Hard Rock Bet Casino Promo
          • Hollywood Casino Promo Code
      • Canada Casinos
        • Back
        • Canada Casinos
        • Canada Online Casinos
        • Provinces
          • Back
          • Provinces
          • Alberta Online Casino
          • BC Online Casino
          • Ontario Online Casinos
        • Casino Promos
          • Back
          • Casino Promos
          • BC.GAME Bonus Code
          • Cloudbet Promo Code
          • RainBet Promo Code
          • Roobet Promo Code
          • Shuffle Promo Code
          • Thrill Promo Code
    • Prediction Markets
      • Prediction Markets
      • Prediction Market Apps
      • Prediction Market Promos
      • Kalshi Promo Code
      • Kalshi Referral Code
      • Polymarket Promo Code
      • Polymarket Referral Code
      • DraftKings Predictions Promo Code
      • Novig Promo Code
      • ProphetX Promo Code
      • Underdog Promo Code
      • Betr Promo Code
      • OG Promo Code
      • Fanatics Markets Promo Code
      • Plus500 Promo Code
      • Gemini Predictions Promo Code
    • NFL Week 7
      NFL Week 7
      • NFL Odds
      • NFL Picks
      • Patriots-Bears Picks
      • NFL ATS Picks
      • NFL Prediction Markets
      • NFL Betting Sites
    Covers Account
    Log in Create account
    Join free Log in
    All Forums | Politics

    The Biden Presidency: Repairing America.....again

    «First Previous 160161162 ... 179180181 Next Last»
    KellyM_1964
    fubah2
    Rush51
    MrWhatsItToYa
    Raiders22
    ...
    Participants:
    Search
    Views: 34861
    Posts: 4516
    «First Previous 160161162 ... 179180181 Next Last»
     
    KellyM_1964
    KellyM_1964
    MVP
    Participation Meter
    Joined: May, 2009
    Posts: 16793
    Posted: Feb. 21, 2024 - 10:38 PM ET #3976

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: FOX NEWS:   New presidential rankings The 154 respondents to the survey included "current and recent members of the Presidents & Executive Politics Section of the American Political Science Association…

    The scholars who self-identified as Republicans or Conservatives ranked Obama in 15th place.

    obama ! thumbs_up

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: FOX NEWS:   New presidential rankings The 154 respondents to the survey included "current and recent members of the Presidents & Executive Politics Section of the American Political Science Association…

    The scholars who self-identified as Republicans or Conservatives ranked Obama in 15th place.

    obama ! thumbs_up

     

     

     
    fubah2
    fubah2
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Aug, 2012
    Posts: 54117
    Posted: Feb. 21, 2024 - 10:57 PM ET #3977

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by JEG53: @KellyM_1964   he leaves office as the most unpopular President ever and the only one to be Impeach 2 times with his approval rating the lowest of all time,that is the Legacy he will leave as he orders a 21 Gun Salute and Red Carpet to try to disguise his leaving in disgrace.Glad to see him go, cost me a year of work and plans I had for this year. 

     

     

    and now 3 yrs later

    chump is a guilty sexoffender who has been indicted on 92 criminal charges convicted of massive fraud and fallen from 4th worst president of all time down to the absolute worst ever

    an_beatup

    @KellyM_1964

    Of course this won't matter to the pseudo-fascism-supporting MAGA-cult. 

    But it's likely to count some to quite a few of my fellow independents.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by JEG53: @KellyM_1964   he leaves office as the most unpopular President ever and the only one to be Impeach 2 times with his approval rating the lowest of all time,that is the Legacy he will leave as he orders a 21 Gun Salute and Red Carpet to try to disguise his leaving in disgrace.Glad to see him go, cost me a year of work and plans I had for this year. 

     

     

    and now 3 yrs later

    chump is a guilty sexoffender who has been indicted on 92 criminal charges convicted of massive fraud and fallen from 4th worst president of all time down to the absolute worst ever

    an_beatup

    @KellyM_1964

    Of course this won't matter to the pseudo-fascism-supporting MAGA-cult. 

    But it's likely to count some to quite a few of my fellow independents.

     
    Rush51
    Rush51
    Captain
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2005
    Posts: 8841
    Posted: Feb. 22, 2024 - 12:37 AM ET #3978

    @fubah2

     But when you don't show any ability or willingness to engage in any discussion,..... how do you expect to influence anybody  ? 

    Reply

    @fubah2

     But when you don't show any ability or willingness to engage in any discussion,..... how do you expect to influence anybody  ? 

     
    KellyM_1964
    KellyM_1964
    MVP
    Participation Meter
    Joined: May, 2009
    Posts: 16793
    Posted: Feb. 22, 2024 - 2:30 AM ET #3979

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by JEG53: @KellyM_1964   he leaves office as the most unpopular President ever and the only one to be Impeach 2 times with his approval rating the lowest of all time,that is the Legacy he will leave as he orders a 21 Gun Salute and Red Carpet to try to disguise his leaving in disgrace.Glad to see him go, cost me a year of work and plans I had for this year.   

     and now 3 yrs later chump is a guilty sexoffender who has been indicted on 92 criminal charges convicted of massive fraud and fallen from 4th worst president of all time down to the absolute worst ever @KellyM_1964 Of course this won't matter to the pseudo-fascism-supporting MAGA-cult.  But it's likely to count some to quite a few of my fellow independents.

     

    @fubah2

    right    which is the key to the coming election    both sides r dug in      but the middle means everything as usual     and they not only dislike trump and his failed policies but  voting for the worst president in us history defies any logic

     

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by JEG53: @KellyM_1964   he leaves office as the most unpopular President ever and the only one to be Impeach 2 times with his approval rating the lowest of all time,that is the Legacy he will leave as he orders a 21 Gun Salute and Red Carpet to try to disguise his leaving in disgrace.Glad to see him go, cost me a year of work and plans I had for this year.   

     and now 3 yrs later chump is a guilty sexoffender who has been indicted on 92 criminal charges convicted of massive fraud and fallen from 4th worst president of all time down to the absolute worst ever @KellyM_1964 Of course this won't matter to the pseudo-fascism-supporting MAGA-cult.  But it's likely to count some to quite a few of my fellow independents.

     

    @fubah2

    right    which is the key to the coming election    both sides r dug in      but the middle means everything as usual     and they not only dislike trump and his failed policies but  voting for the worst president in us history defies any logic

     

     

     

     
    MrWhatsItToYa
    MrWhatsItToYa
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Mar, 2014
    Posts: 3239
    Posted: Feb. 22, 2024 - 2:48 AM ET #3980

    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    Right, what the hell is everyone thinking...   Because a president is single handedly responsible for the rise and fall of the stock market   How do I put like the rest of you say in these threads.....Oh yeah, only people with common sense and who are not MAGA supporters know that a president has very little impact on how the stock market fluctuates, however they seem to get credit when the market is good and the blame when it is bad    How would most of you say it...oh yeah, what a lame response   Did that about sum up how most of you respond in here
    Never said anything about him being single handedly responsible for the rise and fall of the stock market,just like trump wasn't,but you guys never quit talking about the stock markets when he was in charge.Just like he isn't responsible for inflation or what is going on with Israel and Ukraine,but according to you guys that's all Biden's doing.And if the stock markets were going to shit right now,lemme guess who you'd be blaming.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    Right, what the hell is everyone thinking...   Because a president is single handedly responsible for the rise and fall of the stock market   How do I put like the rest of you say in these threads.....Oh yeah, only people with common sense and who are not MAGA supporters know that a president has very little impact on how the stock market fluctuates, however they seem to get credit when the market is good and the blame when it is bad    How would most of you say it...oh yeah, what a lame response   Did that about sum up how most of you respond in here
    Never said anything about him being single handedly responsible for the rise and fall of the stock market,just like trump wasn't,but you guys never quit talking about the stock markets when he was in charge.Just like he isn't responsible for inflation or what is going on with Israel and Ukraine,but according to you guys that's all Biden's doing.And if the stock markets were going to shit right now,lemme guess who you'd be blaming.

     
    Raiders22
    Raiders22
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Dec, 2010
    Posts: 34784
    Posted: Feb. 22, 2024 - 9:53 AM ET #3981

    confused

    Reply

    confused

     
    fubah2
    fubah2
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Aug, 2012
    Posts: 54117
    Posted: Feb. 22, 2024 - 10:09 AM ET #3982

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by JEG53: @KellyM_1964   he leaves office as the most unpopular President ever and the only one to be Impeach 2 times with his approval rating the lowest of all time,that is the Legacy he will leave as he orders a 21 Gun Salute and Red Carpet to try to disguise his leaving in disgrace.Glad to see him go, cost me a year of work and plans I had for this year.     and now 3 yrs later chump is a guilty sexoffender who has been indicted on 92 criminal charges convicted of massive fraud and fallen from 4th worst president of all time down to the absolute worst ever @KellyM_1964 Of course this won't matter to the pseudo-fascism-supporting MAGA-cult.  But it's likely to count some to quite a few of my fellow independents.  @fubah2 right    which is the key to the coming election    both sides r dug in      but the middle means everything as usual     and they not only dislike trump and his failed policies but  voting for the worst president in us history defies any logic
    peace_5

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by JEG53: @KellyM_1964   he leaves office as the most unpopular President ever and the only one to be Impeach 2 times with his approval rating the lowest of all time,that is the Legacy he will leave as he orders a 21 Gun Salute and Red Carpet to try to disguise his leaving in disgrace.Glad to see him go, cost me a year of work and plans I had for this year.     and now 3 yrs later chump is a guilty sexoffender who has been indicted on 92 criminal charges convicted of massive fraud and fallen from 4th worst president of all time down to the absolute worst ever @KellyM_1964 Of course this won't matter to the pseudo-fascism-supporting MAGA-cult.  But it's likely to count some to quite a few of my fellow independents.  @fubah2 right    which is the key to the coming election    both sides r dug in      but the middle means everything as usual     and they not only dislike trump and his failed policies but  voting for the worst president in us history defies any logic
    peace_5

     
    ABooksNightmare
    ABooksNightmare
    Hall of Fame
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2004
    Posts: 26651
    Posted: Feb. 22, 2024 - 11:37 AM ET #3983

    Ya, ok...try to keep up, as you would say....you responded to and quoted about Biden and then made a claim that about the stock market....good onean_roll_laugh

    COVERS allows u to tell someone they are sexually frustrated so long as ur hands are clean
    Reply

    Ya, ok...try to keep up, as you would say....you responded to and quoted about Biden and then made a claim that about the stock market....good onean_roll_laugh

     
    wallstreetcappers
    wallstreetcappers
    Covers Linesmen
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Feb, 2003
    Posts: 58436
    Posted: Feb. 22, 2024 - 11:42 AM ET #3984

    @ABooksNightmare

     He is right on the reply above though, exactly what he wrote happened..so how is it ok for the GOP kiddos to credit Trump for the awesome market but not for the Biden kiddos to do the same? And it is not difficult to find where your group were blaming Biden for the market dip during Covid and for all the Ukraine/Israel issues. How does he need to keep up, what he posted is 100% true. 

    Sounds like you are provoking as usual, but you cant deflect from his reply it is completely legitimate. 

    Reply

    @ABooksNightmare

     He is right on the reply above though, exactly what he wrote happened..so how is it ok for the GOP kiddos to credit Trump for the awesome market but not for the Biden kiddos to do the same? And it is not difficult to find where your group were blaming Biden for the market dip during Covid and for all the Ukraine/Israel issues. How does he need to keep up, what he posted is 100% true. 

    Sounds like you are provoking as usual, but you cant deflect from his reply it is completely legitimate. 

     
    Raiders22
    Raiders22
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Dec, 2010
    Posts: 34784
    Posted: Feb. 22, 2024 - 11:55 AM ET #3985

    So, let's see what has happened to stocks over the first three years of the Biden presidency -- i.e, through the end of January 2024.

    Over that period, the price level has risen by about 18%. The real (inflation-adjusted) rate of return in the S&P 500 after three years of Biden is thus only 8%. This is fairly anemic and well below the average annual real rate of return since the New York Stock Exchange opened its doors, which is a three-year average of more than 20%.

    Biden's performance is also much worse than the bull market under Donald Trump. The S&P was up 36% in real terms at this time of Trump's presidency, or more than four times better.

    peace_5

    Reply

    So, let's see what has happened to stocks over the first three years of the Biden presidency -- i.e, through the end of January 2024.

    Over that period, the price level has risen by about 18%. The real (inflation-adjusted) rate of return in the S&P 500 after three years of Biden is thus only 8%. This is fairly anemic and well below the average annual real rate of return since the New York Stock Exchange opened its doors, which is a three-year average of more than 20%.

    Biden's performance is also much worse than the bull market under Donald Trump. The S&P was up 36% in real terms at this time of Trump's presidency, or more than four times better.

    peace_5

     
    ABooksNightmare
    ABooksNightmare
    Hall of Fame
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2004
    Posts: 26651
    Posted: Feb. 22, 2024 - 12:05 PM ET #3986

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @ABooksNightmare  He is right on the reply above though, exactly what he wrote happened..so how is it ok for the GOP kiddos to credit Trump for the awesome market but not for the Biden kiddos to do the same? And it is not difficult to find where your group were blaming Biden for the market dip during Covid and for all the Ukraine/Israel issues. How does he need to keep up, what he posted is 100% true.  Sounds like you are provoking as usual, but you cant deflect from his reply it is completely legitimate.
    Wait, I credited Trump with stock market evaluation.....can you show me where I did this because this is blatantly falsean_popcorn

    You must have me confused because Trump, just like Biden, has zero impact on the rise or fall of the stock marketan_popcorn

     

    And when you say "your" group," who are you referring to because I have made it abundantly clear that I have no group and if you are referring to the Republican side, please point out to all of us here where I have said I am part of the Republican groupan_popcorn

    Looks like you are up to your old tricks still trying to categorize people to make your point but you couldn't be further from it...see, I have many posts claiming both parties are idiots and I know you have seen them because you have commented so let's stop with this song and dance routine and quit trying to put me with either the Republicans or Democrats....this isn't Lord of the Flies and I don't have to pick a side...both of the parties stink and both suck so please stop with trying to put me in with whoever you think I follow...I talk shit about both parties and both that are in the spotlight...sometimes it's just easier when one side on here is so flamboyant about one person that its easy to point out...

     

    And the "keep"up" reference is a snide remark he made to me in another part of these forums so turn about is fair play...and since you are so biased wall, you can clearly see he quoted a post about Biden and then supported it by saying how great the stock market is in reference to Biden as if he has anything to do with the stock market....that's comedic to even make such a claim...an_roll_laugh

     

    Can anyone in this forum name one single president that single handedly was responsible for the rise and fall of the stock market??

     

    Odds are you won't find one, so the remark he made is comedic

    COVERS allows u to tell someone they are sexually frustrated so long as ur hands are clean
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @ABooksNightmare  He is right on the reply above though, exactly what he wrote happened..so how is it ok for the GOP kiddos to credit Trump for the awesome market but not for the Biden kiddos to do the same? And it is not difficult to find where your group were blaming Biden for the market dip during Covid and for all the Ukraine/Israel issues. How does he need to keep up, what he posted is 100% true.  Sounds like you are provoking as usual, but you cant deflect from his reply it is completely legitimate.
    Wait, I credited Trump with stock market evaluation.....can you show me where I did this because this is blatantly falsean_popcorn

    You must have me confused because Trump, just like Biden, has zero impact on the rise or fall of the stock marketan_popcorn

     

    And when you say "your" group," who are you referring to because I have made it abundantly clear that I have no group and if you are referring to the Republican side, please point out to all of us here where I have said I am part of the Republican groupan_popcorn

    Looks like you are up to your old tricks still trying to categorize people to make your point but you couldn't be further from it...see, I have many posts claiming both parties are idiots and I know you have seen them because you have commented so let's stop with this song and dance routine and quit trying to put me with either the Republicans or Democrats....this isn't Lord of the Flies and I don't have to pick a side...both of the parties stink and both suck so please stop with trying to put me in with whoever you think I follow...I talk shit about both parties and both that are in the spotlight...sometimes it's just easier when one side on here is so flamboyant about one person that its easy to point out...

     

    And the "keep"up" reference is a snide remark he made to me in another part of these forums so turn about is fair play...and since you are so biased wall, you can clearly see he quoted a post about Biden and then supported it by saying how great the stock market is in reference to Biden as if he has anything to do with the stock market....that's comedic to even make such a claim...an_roll_laugh

     

    Can anyone in this forum name one single president that single handedly was responsible for the rise and fall of the stock market??

     

    Odds are you won't find one, so the remark he made is comedic

     
    ABooksNightmare
    ABooksNightmare
    Hall of Fame
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2004
    Posts: 26651
    Posted: Feb. 22, 2024 - 12:14 PM ET #3987

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    So, let's see what has happened to stocks over the first three years of the Biden presidency -- i.e, through the end of January 2024. Over that period, the price level has risen by about 18%. The real (inflation-adjusted) rate of return in the S&P 500 after three years of Biden is thus only 8%. This is fairly anemic and well below the average annual real rate of return since the New York Stock Exchange opened its doors, which is a three-year average of more than 20%. Biden's performance is also much worse than the bull market under Donald Trump. The S&P was up 36% in real terms at this time of Trump's presidency, or more than four times better.
    Most people in the world are not educated enough to follow what you put there....logically it makes sense but it is easier for people to see the raw number now versus how it was obtained or what it took to be obtained....

    COVERS allows u to tell someone they are sexually frustrated so long as ur hands are clean
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    So, let's see what has happened to stocks over the first three years of the Biden presidency -- i.e, through the end of January 2024. Over that period, the price level has risen by about 18%. The real (inflation-adjusted) rate of return in the S&P 500 after three years of Biden is thus only 8%. This is fairly anemic and well below the average annual real rate of return since the New York Stock Exchange opened its doors, which is a three-year average of more than 20%. Biden's performance is also much worse than the bull market under Donald Trump. The S&P was up 36% in real terms at this time of Trump's presidency, or more than four times better.
    Most people in the world are not educated enough to follow what you put there....logically it makes sense but it is easier for people to see the raw number now versus how it was obtained or what it took to be obtained....

     
    ABooksNightmare
    ABooksNightmare
    Hall of Fame
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2004
    Posts: 26651
    Posted: Feb. 22, 2024 - 12:19 PM ET #3988

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos: Biden destroying the country every hour while in office.Ya them dam record numbers in the stock market,are just tearing this fucking country apart,what the hell are they thinking.

    an_popcorn

    COVERS allows u to tell someone they are sexually frustrated so long as ur hands are clean
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos: Biden destroying the country every hour while in office.Ya them dam record numbers in the stock market,are just tearing this fucking country apart,what the hell are they thinking.

    an_popcorn

     
    Raiders22
    Raiders22
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Dec, 2010
    Posts: 34784
    Posted: Feb. 22, 2024 - 12:22 PM ET #3989

    @ABooksNightmare

     You must have me confused because Trump, just like Biden, has zero impact on the rise or fall of the stock market

    Can anyone in this forum name one single president that single handedly was responsible for the rise and fall of the stock market??

    I think most people agree with this.  But it is not completely true that they do not have some influence.

    The markets are certainly reactionary; but they are also anticipatory.  So, to an extent which guy is likely to get elected has an influence because of the perceived policies they may or may not support.  Certainly this is more true for sectors of the market, but they can very well have some influence on the markets overall.  This works better if the Congress is also seen as likely to support a President's policies.

    peace_5

    Reply

    @ABooksNightmare

     You must have me confused because Trump, just like Biden, has zero impact on the rise or fall of the stock market

    Can anyone in this forum name one single president that single handedly was responsible for the rise and fall of the stock market??

    I think most people agree with this.  But it is not completely true that they do not have some influence.

    The markets are certainly reactionary; but they are also anticipatory.  So, to an extent which guy is likely to get elected has an influence because of the perceived policies they may or may not support.  Certainly this is more true for sectors of the market, but they can very well have some influence on the markets overall.  This works better if the Congress is also seen as likely to support a President's policies.

    peace_5

     
    fubah2
    fubah2
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Aug, 2012
    Posts: 54117
    Posted: Feb. 22, 2024 - 12:26 PM ET #3990

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @ABooksNightmare  He is right on the reply above though, exactly what he wrote happened..so how is it ok for the GOP kiddos to credit Trump for the awesome market but not for the Biden kiddos to do the same? And it is not difficult to find where your group were blaming Biden for the market dip during Covid and for all the Ukraine/Israel issues. How does he need to keep up, what he posted is 100% true.  Sounds like you are provoking as usual, but you cant deflect from his reply it is completely legitimate.

    @wallstreetcappers

     Yep!  peace_5

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @ABooksNightmare  He is right on the reply above though, exactly what he wrote happened..so how is it ok for the GOP kiddos to credit Trump for the awesome market but not for the Biden kiddos to do the same? And it is not difficult to find where your group were blaming Biden for the market dip during Covid and for all the Ukraine/Israel issues. How does he need to keep up, what he posted is 100% true.  Sounds like you are provoking as usual, but you cant deflect from his reply it is completely legitimate.

    @wallstreetcappers

     Yep!  peace_5

     
    ABooksNightmare
    ABooksNightmare
    Hall of Fame
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2004
    Posts: 26651
    Posted: Feb. 22, 2024 - 12:34 PM ET #3991

    Policies, yes, but that is not at the hands of solely any president...I took his response that Biden wasn't destroying the country like scooby said and his reply was record number stock market...I took that as if he was saying that Biden was the reason why the stock market is doing so well when the president is not why the market is doing well

    Congress and our Federal Reserve have more influence over the market than any president...yes, of course, policies can influence the market but those are not because of any one president....I would not give credit or the fall of the market to any one president...just because it happens while their in office doesn't mean they were responsible...such a party line response...taking credit for something they have no control over...

    COVERS allows u to tell someone they are sexually frustrated so long as ur hands are clean
    Reply

    Policies, yes, but that is not at the hands of solely any president...I took his response that Biden wasn't destroying the country like scooby said and his reply was record number stock market...I took that as if he was saying that Biden was the reason why the stock market is doing so well when the president is not why the market is doing well

    Congress and our Federal Reserve have more influence over the market than any president...yes, of course, policies can influence the market but those are not because of any one president....I would not give credit or the fall of the market to any one president...just because it happens while their in office doesn't mean they were responsible...such a party line response...taking credit for something they have no control over...

     
    ABooksNightmare
    ABooksNightmare
    Hall of Fame
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2004
    Posts: 26651
    Posted: Feb. 22, 2024 - 12:35 PM ET #3992

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @ABooksNightmare  He is right on the reply above though, exactly what he wrote happened..so how is it ok for the GOP kiddos to credit Trump for the awesome market but not for the Biden kiddos to do the same? And it is not difficult to find where your group were blaming Biden for the market dip during Covid and for all the Ukraine/Israel issues. How does he need to keep up, what he posted is 100% true.  Sounds like you are provoking as usual, but you cant deflect from his reply it is completely legitimate. @wallstreetcappers  Yep!
    Nopepeace_5

    COVERS allows u to tell someone they are sexually frustrated so long as ur hands are clean
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @ABooksNightmare  He is right on the reply above though, exactly what he wrote happened..so how is it ok for the GOP kiddos to credit Trump for the awesome market but not for the Biden kiddos to do the same? And it is not difficult to find where your group were blaming Biden for the market dip during Covid and for all the Ukraine/Israel issues. How does he need to keep up, what he posted is 100% true.  Sounds like you are provoking as usual, but you cant deflect from his reply it is completely legitimate. @wallstreetcappers  Yep!
    Nopepeace_5

     
    Zeus4par
    Zeus4par
    Captain
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2021
    Posts: 6070
    Posted: Feb. 22, 2024 - 12:39 PM ET #3993

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @ABooksNightmare  He is right on the reply above though, exactly what he wrote happened..so how is it ok for the GOP kiddos to credit Trump for the awesome market but not for the Biden kiddos to do the same? And it is not difficult to find where your group were blaming Biden for the market dip during Covid and for all the Ukraine/Israel issues. How does he need to keep up, what he posted is 100% true.  Sounds like you are provoking as usual, but you cant deflect from his reply it is completely legitimate.

    @wallstreetcappers

     goodpost   peace_5

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @ABooksNightmare  He is right on the reply above though, exactly what he wrote happened..so how is it ok for the GOP kiddos to credit Trump for the awesome market but not for the Biden kiddos to do the same? And it is not difficult to find where your group were blaming Biden for the market dip during Covid and for all the Ukraine/Israel issues. How does he need to keep up, what he posted is 100% true.  Sounds like you are provoking as usual, but you cant deflect from his reply it is completely legitimate.

    @wallstreetcappers

     goodpost   peace_5

     
    Raiders22
    Raiders22
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Dec, 2010
    Posts: 34784
    Posted: Feb. 22, 2024 - 12:46 PM ET #3994

    @ABooksNightmare

     

    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    Policies, yes, but that is not at the hands of solely any president...I took his response that Biden wasn't destroying the country like scooby said and his reply was record number stock market...I took that as if he was saying that Biden was the reason why the stock market is doing so well when the president is not why the market is doing well Congress and our Federal Reserve have more influence over the market than any president...yes, of course, policies can influence the market but those are not because of any one president....I would not give credit or the fall of the market to any one president...just because it happens while their in office doesn't mean they were responsible...such a party line response...taking credit for something they have no control over...

    Sure, I get that.  I am simply saying if you look into it the stock market is not doing as well as people think.

    The other thing is that no matter who is in office they automatically get credit for the good that happens and blame for the bad that happens -- simply because they are in office while it happens.

    You are correct they do not deserve complete blame or credit -- but they do deserve some.

    peace_5

    Reply

    @ABooksNightmare

     

    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    Policies, yes, but that is not at the hands of solely any president...I took his response that Biden wasn't destroying the country like scooby said and his reply was record number stock market...I took that as if he was saying that Biden was the reason why the stock market is doing so well when the president is not why the market is doing well Congress and our Federal Reserve have more influence over the market than any president...yes, of course, policies can influence the market but those are not because of any one president....I would not give credit or the fall of the market to any one president...just because it happens while their in office doesn't mean they were responsible...such a party line response...taking credit for something they have no control over...

    Sure, I get that.  I am simply saying if you look into it the stock market is not doing as well as people think.

    The other thing is that no matter who is in office they automatically get credit for the good that happens and blame for the bad that happens -- simply because they are in office while it happens.

    You are correct they do not deserve complete blame or credit -- but they do deserve some.

    peace_5

     
    KellyM_1964
    KellyM_1964
    MVP
    Participation Meter
    Joined: May, 2009
    Posts: 16793
    Posted: Feb. 22, 2024 - 12:49 PM ET #3995

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @ABooksNightmare  He is right on the reply above though, exactly what he wrote happened..so how is it ok for the GOP kiddos to credit Trump for the awesome market but not for the Biden kiddos to do the same? And it is not difficult to find where your group were blaming Biden for the market dip during Covid and for all the Ukraine/Israel issues. How does he need to keep up, what he posted is 100% true.  Sounds like you are provoking as usual, but you cant deflect from his reply it is completely legitimate.

    an_clap

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @ABooksNightmare  He is right on the reply above though, exactly what he wrote happened..so how is it ok for the GOP kiddos to credit Trump for the awesome market but not for the Biden kiddos to do the same? And it is not difficult to find where your group were blaming Biden for the market dip during Covid and for all the Ukraine/Israel issues. How does he need to keep up, what he posted is 100% true.  Sounds like you are provoking as usual, but you cant deflect from his reply it is completely legitimate.

    an_clap

     

     
    KellyM_1964
    KellyM_1964
    MVP
    Participation Meter
    Joined: May, 2009
    Posts: 16793
    Posted: Feb. 22, 2024 - 12:49 PM ET #3996

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @ABooksNightmare  He is right on the reply above though, exactly what he wrote happened..so how is it ok for the GOP kiddos to credit Trump for the awesome market but not for the Biden kiddos to do the same? And it is not difficult to find where your group were blaming Biden for the market dip during Covid and for all the Ukraine/Israel issues. How does he need to keep up, what he posted is 100% true.  Sounds like you are provoking as usual, but you cant deflect from his reply it is completely legitimate.

    an_clap

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @ABooksNightmare  He is right on the reply above though, exactly what he wrote happened..so how is it ok for the GOP kiddos to credit Trump for the awesome market but not for the Biden kiddos to do the same? And it is not difficult to find where your group were blaming Biden for the market dip during Covid and for all the Ukraine/Israel issues. How does he need to keep up, what he posted is 100% true.  Sounds like you are provoking as usual, but you cant deflect from his reply it is completely legitimate.

    an_clap

     

     
    MrWhatsItToYa
    MrWhatsItToYa
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Mar, 2014
    Posts: 3239
    Posted: Feb. 22, 2024 - 1:58 PM ET #3997

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @ABooksNightmare  He is right on the reply above though, exactly what he wrote happened..so how is it ok for the GOP kiddos to credit Trump for the awesome market but not for the Biden kiddos to do the same? And it is not difficult to find where your group were blaming Biden for the market dip during Covid and for all the Ukraine/Israel issues. How does he need to keep up, what he posted is 100% true.  Sounds like you are provoking as usual, but you cant deflect from his reply it is completely legitimate.
    I don't have a lot of time today,Thursday is 1 of the days I pick up my nephews son from school.Don't sweat it Wall,this guy can't provoke me,and he certainly doesn't bother me when he says things unless they are untrue.And then I can just confront him about what I really said.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @ABooksNightmare  He is right on the reply above though, exactly what he wrote happened..so how is it ok for the GOP kiddos to credit Trump for the awesome market but not for the Biden kiddos to do the same? And it is not difficult to find where your group were blaming Biden for the market dip during Covid and for all the Ukraine/Israel issues. How does he need to keep up, what he posted is 100% true.  Sounds like you are provoking as usual, but you cant deflect from his reply it is completely legitimate.
    I don't have a lot of time today,Thursday is 1 of the days I pick up my nephews son from school.Don't sweat it Wall,this guy can't provoke me,and he certainly doesn't bother me when he says things unless they are untrue.And then I can just confront him about what I really said.

     
    MrWhatsItToYa
    MrWhatsItToYa
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Mar, 2014
    Posts: 3239
    Posted: Feb. 22, 2024 - 2:06 PM ET #3998

    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    Ya, ok...try to keep up, as you would say....you responded to and quoted about Biden and then made a claim that about the stock market....good one
    I don't think I ever said to keep up,it just doesn't sound like something I'd write unless it was in response to you telling me to keep up and I used it to be sarcastic to you.If Biden or trump or any president did something or even said something to either give people confidence or concern about where the country was headed,that couldn't make the stock markets fluctuate up or down?Argue with you later,gotta go do something.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    Ya, ok...try to keep up, as you would say....you responded to and quoted about Biden and then made a claim that about the stock market....good one
    I don't think I ever said to keep up,it just doesn't sound like something I'd write unless it was in response to you telling me to keep up and I used it to be sarcastic to you.If Biden or trump or any president did something or even said something to either give people confidence or concern about where the country was headed,that couldn't make the stock markets fluctuate up or down?Argue with you later,gotta go do something.

     
    wallstreetcappers
    wallstreetcappers
    Covers Linesmen
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Feb, 2003
    Posts: 58436
    Posted: Feb. 22, 2024 - 2:07 PM ET #3999

    @ABooksNightmare

     I have said MULTIPLE times that the government really has little impact on the stock market, said it during the Trump cheerleading junk Ive said it during the Biden blame (like what Raiders did above) and I will always say. The FED runs these markets and in reality the only impact governments have is to let corps do whatever the crap they want without recourse...THAT is how governments impact corps. 

    Partisan booger flicking is pretty stupid, this is just more of the same stupid fighting day in and out. It would be super cool if you were able to step above the tit for tat you deflected about, so if someone makes a comment why not try to not use the same comment as a dig in return?

    Reply

    @ABooksNightmare

     I have said MULTIPLE times that the government really has little impact on the stock market, said it during the Trump cheerleading junk Ive said it during the Biden blame (like what Raiders did above) and I will always say. The FED runs these markets and in reality the only impact governments have is to let corps do whatever the crap they want without recourse...THAT is how governments impact corps. 

    Partisan booger flicking is pretty stupid, this is just more of the same stupid fighting day in and out. It would be super cool if you were able to step above the tit for tat you deflected about, so if someone makes a comment why not try to not use the same comment as a dig in return?

     
     
    KellyM_1964
    KellyM_1964
    MVP
    Participation Meter
    Joined: May, 2009
    Posts: 16793
    Posted: Feb. 22, 2024 - 5:51 PM ET #4000

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: FOX NEWS:   New presidential rankings The 154 respondents to the survey included "current and recent members of the Presidents & Executive Politics Section of the American Political Science Association… The scholars who self-identified as Republicans or Conservatives ranked Obama in 15th place. obama !
     an_cheers

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: FOX NEWS:   New presidential rankings The 154 respondents to the survey included "current and recent members of the Presidents & Executive Politics Section of the American Political Science Association… The scholars who self-identified as Republicans or Conservatives ranked Obama in 15th place. obama !
     an_cheers

    All Forums | Politics
    «First Previous 160161162 ... 179180181 Next Last»

    Hot Forums IconHot Forum Topics

    • Claiming Prizes 57,813
    • Wednesday 10/21/2026 971
    • 🏈🏈🏈 Fubah2's risky CFB bets 279,716
    • I'm embarrassed for Trump supporters 61,609
    • PART DEUX 159
    • Public Indicator Calculations 2026 23,358
    • NFL THREAD * 151 * 26,168
    • Lies, Inaccuracies & Stupidity 33,185
    • NCAA WEEK 7 *** Railroad to Paradise *** 14,673
    • Republicans push back against the lunatic Trump and his team of liars. 23,314

    Warning - External Link

    Report User

    Thank you for reporting
    This content is abusive or harmful
    This post is spam
    An error has occurred
    This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.

    Delete Post

    Are you sure you would like to remove this post?

    Remove Thread

    Are you sure you would like to remove this thread?

    Scan Results

    Login/Register

    Happy to have you join the conversation. To do so, please login or create an account.
    Accounts are free and easy to create.

    Search


    Loading…

    Loading…

    About Us
    Contact Us
    Careers
    Our Team
    Brand
    Testimonials
    Betting Guides
    Sportsbook Reviews
    Betting News
    Podcasts
    Responsible Gambling
    Betting Sites
    US Betting Sites
    Canada Betting Sites
    Canada Casinos
    Best Betting Apps
    Contests
    Streak Survivor
    King of Covers
    Ultimate Race
    Office Pools
    The Covers community has
    810,221
    lifetime members worldwide
    Join our community today
    Covers 30 Years Logo Established in 1995,
    Covers is the world
    leader in sports
    betting information.
    21+
    Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER
    Help Privacy Privacy Choices Terms of Service Cookies Sitemap Forum
    YouTube logo
    Facebook logo
    Twitter logo
    Instagram logo
    LinkedIn logo
    Google News logo
    Covers is verified safe by:
    Evalon Logo Logo GPWA Logo GDPR logo Logo GeoTrust logo Logo
    Covers Logo
    Copyright © 1995 - 2026 Genius Sports. All Rights Reserved.
    If you choose to make use of any information on this website including online sports betting services from any websites that may be featured on this website, we strongly recommend that you carefully check your local laws before doing so.It is your sole responsibility to understand your local laws and observe them strictly.Covers does not provide any advice or guidance as to the legality of online sports betting or other online gambling activities within your jurisdiction and you are responsible for complying with laws that are applicable to you in your relevant locality.Covers disclaims all liability associated with your use of this website and use of any information contained on it.As a condition of using this website, you agree to hold the owner of this website harmless from any claims arising from your use of any services on any third party website that may be featured by Covers.