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    States with highest murder rate and crime rates, yet Trumpy is sending the military

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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2025 - 8:49 AM ET #51

    A New York Times-Siena College poll released Tuesday showed more registered voters feared Trump using the troops to intimidate his political opponents than feared crime spiraling out of control without the guard in-use.

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    A New York Times-Siena College poll released Tuesday showed more registered voters feared Trump using the troops to intimidate his political opponents than feared crime spiraling out of control without the guard in-use.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2025 - 8:59 AM ET #52

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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2025 - 9:09 AM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    A New York Times-Siena College poll released Tuesday showed more registered voters feared Trump using the troops to intimidate his political opponents than feared crime spiraling out of control without the guard in-use.

     

    Most strikingly and most significantly, Trump seemed to try and recruit the generals and admirals to his political, domestic crackdown. He and Hegseth tried to pit them against Democrats, academia, supposed left-wing radicals and the media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    A New York Times-Siena College poll released Tuesday showed more registered voters feared Trump using the troops to intimidate his political opponents than feared crime spiraling out of control without the guard in-use.

     

    Most strikingly and most significantly, Trump seemed to try and recruit the generals and admirals to his political, domestic crackdown. He and Hegseth tried to pit them against Democrats, academia, supposed left-wing radicals and the media.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2025 - 11:48 AM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    into the wrong states. Look at that 4 of the 5 top states are maga and redneck states.  Magas want you to believe thats its the democrat states doing all the murders, cause they dont want you to know the truth. RED STATES ARE COMMITTING MORE MURDERS.  I thought the magas argument was they need to have so many guns, because its a deterrent that stops criminals from committing crimes. Well that might be the case if it wasnt the maga gun owners in the red states who are out there committing the crimes!

     

     

     True!   peace_5            an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    into the wrong states. Look at that 4 of the 5 top states are maga and redneck states.  Magas want you to believe thats its the democrat states doing all the murders, cause they dont want you to know the truth. RED STATES ARE COMMITTING MORE MURDERS.  I thought the magas argument was they need to have so many guns, because its a deterrent that stops criminals from committing crimes. Well that might be the case if it wasnt the maga gun owners in the red states who are out there committing the crimes!

     

     

     True!   peace_5            an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2025 - 12:57 PM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare: Lol..you're a joke   Your bigotry is fascinating    Find posts of mine defending trump simce you are sooooo sure...still waiting
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare: Lol..you're a joke   Your bigotry is fascinating    Find posts of mine defending trump simce you are sooooo sure...still waiting
    sleep2sleepy in here....wonder where the posts are

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2025 - 1:03 PM ET #56

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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2025 - 1:23 PM ET #57

    You brought sense into this forum...wow, that's a bold statement peace_5

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    You brought sense into this forum...wow, that's a bold statement peace_5

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2025 - 1:24 PM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: A New York Times-Siena College poll released Tuesday showed more registered voters feared Trump using the troops to intimidate his political opponents than feared crime spiraling out of control without the guard in-use.   Most strikingly and most significantly, Trump seemed to try and recruit the generals and admirals to his political, domestic crackdown. He and Hegseth tried to pit them against Democrats, academia, supposed left-wing radicals and the media.

     

     

    rump is a fascist   angry

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: A New York Times-Siena College poll released Tuesday showed more registered voters feared Trump using the troops to intimidate his political opponents than feared crime spiraling out of control without the guard in-use.   Most strikingly and most significantly, Trump seemed to try and recruit the generals and admirals to his political, domestic crackdown. He and Hegseth tried to pit them against Democrats, academia, supposed left-wing radicals and the media.

     

     

    rump is a fascist   angry

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2025 - 2:13 PM ET #59

    Bribem and Cackle are fascists.

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    Bribem and Cackle are fascists.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2025 - 2:33 PM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: A New York Times-Siena College poll released Tuesday showed more registered voters feared Trump using the troops to intimidate his political opponents than feared crime spiraling out of control without the guard in-use.   Most strikingly and most significantly, Trump seemed to try and recruit the generals and admirals to his political, domestic crackdown. He and Hegseth tried to pit them against Democrats, academia, supposed left-wing radicals and the media.     rump is a fascist
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: A New York Times-Siena College poll released Tuesday showed more registered voters feared Trump using the troops to intimidate his political opponents than feared crime spiraling out of control without the guard in-use.   Most strikingly and most significantly, Trump seemed to try and recruit the generals and admirals to his political, domestic crackdown. He and Hegseth tried to pit them against Democrats, academia, supposed left-wing radicals and the media.     rump is a fascist
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2025 - 2:44 PM ET #61

    If the result of entering a thread is to make petty combative jabs or off topic nonsense then please just avoid the member threads entirely because it is obvious what several in this thread are doing and this is not the location for messages in that fashion, there are plenty of threads in the box where some of you are sharing your true colors and I would ask that you keep it there and stop provoking other members.

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    If the result of entering a thread is to make petty combative jabs or off topic nonsense then please just avoid the member threads entirely because it is obvious what several in this thread are doing and this is not the location for messages in that fashion, there are plenty of threads in the box where some of you are sharing your true colors and I would ask that you keep it there and stop provoking other members.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2025 - 6:59 PM ET #62

    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    oh look at that, heres some 2024 stats and the red hillbilly states are still leading the league in crime.  Hope the spin doctors enjoy these stats https://beautifydata.com/united-states-crimes/fbi-ucr/2024/ranking-of-us-states-by-crime-rate-by-crime-type/violent.    Maybe if the red states were disarmed, crime in the country would be way way way down.

     

    maybe                  not holding my breath

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    oh look at that, heres some 2024 stats and the red hillbilly states are still leading the league in crime.  Hope the spin doctors enjoy these stats https://beautifydata.com/united-states-crimes/fbi-ucr/2024/ranking-of-us-states-by-crime-rate-by-crime-type/violent.    Maybe if the red states were disarmed, crime in the country would be way way way down.

     

    maybe                  not holding my breath

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2025 - 8:27 PM ET #63

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by cd329: oh look at that, heres some 2024 stats and the red hillbilly states are still leading the league in crime.  Hope the spin doctors enjoy these stats https://beautifydata.com/united-states-crimes/fbi-ucr/2024/ranking-of-us-states-by-crime-rate-by-crime-type/violent.    Maybe if the red states were disarmed, crime in the country would be way way way down.   maybe                  not holding my breath

    https://beautifydata.com/united-states-crimes/fbi-ucr/2024/ranking-of-us-states-by-crime-rate-by-crime-type/violent.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by cd329: oh look at that, heres some 2024 stats and the red hillbilly states are still leading the league in crime.  Hope the spin doctors enjoy these stats https://beautifydata.com/united-states-crimes/fbi-ucr/2024/ranking-of-us-states-by-crime-rate-by-crime-type/violent.    Maybe if the red states were disarmed, crime in the country would be way way way down.   maybe                  not holding my breath

    https://beautifydata.com/united-states-crimes/fbi-ucr/2024/ranking-of-us-states-by-crime-rate-by-crime-type/violent.

     

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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2025 - 8:36 PM ET #64

    Maybe if red states disarmed the majority of blue cities within their borders, crime would be down 90% throughout the entire country.

     

    Perfect examples being Philadelphia, Memphis, Nashville, Albuquerque, New Orleans, Montgomery, Birmingham, Tuscaloosa, and Jackson just to name a few.

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    Maybe if red states disarmed the majority of blue cities within their borders, crime would be down 90% throughout the entire country.

     

    Perfect examples being Philadelphia, Memphis, Nashville, Albuquerque, New Orleans, Montgomery, Birmingham, Tuscaloosa, and Jackson just to name a few.

    100% Facts.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Maybe if red states disarmed the majority of blue cities within their borders, crime would be down 90% in throughout the entire country.   Perfect examples being Philadelphia, Memphis, Nashville, Albuquerque, New Orleans, Montgomery, Birmingham, Tuscaloosa, and Jackson just to name a few. 100% Facts.

    Could that be due to the fact that a majority of people live in urban areas and not many people live in rural areas?  More people = more opportunity for crime

    The real reason crime is high is because people don't have jobs, hope, or direction.  Maybe instead of "disarming" blue cities, people should be finding out a way to bolster opportunities and give people direction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Maybe if red states disarmed the majority of blue cities within their borders, crime would be down 90% in throughout the entire country.   Perfect examples being Philadelphia, Memphis, Nashville, Albuquerque, New Orleans, Montgomery, Birmingham, Tuscaloosa, and Jackson just to name a few. 100% Facts.

    Could that be due to the fact that a majority of people live in urban areas and not many people live in rural areas?  More people = more opportunity for crime

    The real reason crime is high is because people don't have jobs, hope, or direction.  Maybe instead of "disarming" blue cities, people should be finding out a way to bolster opportunities and give people direction?

     
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    You make good points, I agree.

    Blue cities tend to be high density populations, and over the past 15+ years, the majority of these large cities have fallen due to extended, unopposed failed Liberal policies pushing outrageous agendas that do not align with decades and decades of traditional American values.

     

    Many Democratic mayors have lost their way.

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    @kagakuotoko

    You make good points, I agree.

    Blue cities tend to be high density populations, and over the past 15+ years, the majority of these large cities have fallen due to extended, unopposed failed Liberal policies pushing outrageous agendas that do not align with decades and decades of traditional American values.

     

    Many Democratic mayors have lost their way.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by cd329: oh look at that, heres some 2024 stats and the red hillbilly states are still leading the league in crime.  Hope the spin doctors enjoy these stats https://beautifydata.com/united-states-crimes/fbi-ucr/2024/ranking-of-us-states-by-crime-rate-by-crime-type/violent.    Maybe if the red states were disarmed, crime in the country would be way way way down.   maybe                  not holding my breath

     

    I wouldn't either!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by cd329: oh look at that, heres some 2024 stats and the red hillbilly states are still leading the league in crime.  Hope the spin doctors enjoy these stats https://beautifydata.com/united-states-crimes/fbi-ucr/2024/ranking-of-us-states-by-crime-rate-by-crime-type/violent.    Maybe if the red states were disarmed, crime in the country would be way way way down.   maybe                  not holding my breath

     

    I wouldn't either!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by unplucked_gem:

     

    Maybe a different example.  No one anywhere between Allentown and Scranton is filling a cart with merchandise and walking out a chain store unchecked.  Shoot, they even leave their razors unlocked on the shelves out here.

     

    @unplucked_gem peace_5

    As any store should in a civilized society. Nice to know there are still a few decent Democratic mayors not willing to toe the party line and sabotage their own cities. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by unplucked_gem:

     

    Maybe a different example.  No one anywhere between Allentown and Scranton is filling a cart with merchandise and walking out a chain store unchecked.  Shoot, they even leave their razors unlocked on the shelves out here.

     

    @unplucked_gem peace_5

    As any store should in a civilized society. Nice to know there are still a few decent Democratic mayors not willing to toe the party line and sabotage their own cities. 

     
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by kagakuotoko]Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers: Maybe if red states disarmed the majority of blue cities within their borders, crime would be down 90% in throughout the entire country.   Perfect examples being Philadelphia, Memphis, Nashville, Albuquerque, New Orleans, Montgomery, Birmingham, Tuscaloosa, and Jackson just to name a few. 100% Facts. Could that be due to the fact that a majority of people live in urban areas and not many people live in rural areas?  More people = more opportunity for crime The real reason crime is high is because people don't have jobs, hope, or direction.  Maybe instead of "disarming" blue cities, people should be finding out a way to bolster opportunities and give people direction?[/Quote]

     

    And that's " society's problem " , isn't it ?  Yours is a classic reply from the left w no real solution.  

     You want to give people opportunities and direction once they've become criminals.   That's often times too late.  The core of the problem is that inner-city youth grow up w no dad around,  and only a baby-momma to raise them.  Sorry,  but Dem policies encourage split families w welfare support for the baby momma.  There is plenty of data to support that welfare program  "" keep "" families poor, with no incentive to better their lives.

    So, for once, I'd like to see some real "pro active" solutions from the left to solve " society's problem "

     The solutions aren't all that difficult  to figure out.  Putting forward the political will is. 

     

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by kagakuotoko]Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers: Maybe if red states disarmed the majority of blue cities within their borders, crime would be down 90% in throughout the entire country.   Perfect examples being Philadelphia, Memphis, Nashville, Albuquerque, New Orleans, Montgomery, Birmingham, Tuscaloosa, and Jackson just to name a few. 100% Facts. Could that be due to the fact that a majority of people live in urban areas and not many people live in rural areas?  More people = more opportunity for crime The real reason crime is high is because people don't have jobs, hope, or direction.  Maybe instead of "disarming" blue cities, people should be finding out a way to bolster opportunities and give people direction?[/Quote]

     

    And that's " society's problem " , isn't it ?  Yours is a classic reply from the left w no real solution.  

     You want to give people opportunities and direction once they've become criminals.   That's often times too late.  The core of the problem is that inner-city youth grow up w no dad around,  and only a baby-momma to raise them.  Sorry,  but Dem policies encourage split families w welfare support for the baby momma.  There is plenty of data to support that welfare program  "" keep "" families poor, with no incentive to better their lives.

    So, for once, I'd like to see some real "pro active" solutions from the left to solve " society's problem "

     The solutions aren't all that difficult  to figure out.  Putting forward the political will is. 

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by cd329: oh look at that, heres some 2024 stats and the red hillbilly states are still leading the league in crime.  Hope the spin doctors enjoy these stats https://beautifydata.com/united-states-crimes/fbi-ucr/2024/ranking-of-us-states-by-crime-rate-by-crime-type/violent.    Maybe if the red states were disarmed, crime in the country would be way way way down.   maybe                  not holding my breath   I wouldn't either!

     

    peace_5

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by cd329: oh look at that, heres some 2024 stats and the red hillbilly states are still leading the league in crime.  Hope the spin doctors enjoy these stats https://beautifydata.com/united-states-crimes/fbi-ucr/2024/ranking-of-us-states-by-crime-rate-by-crime-type/violent.    Maybe if the red states were disarmed, crime in the country would be way way way down.   maybe                  not holding my breath   I wouldn't either!

     

    peace_5

     

     

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko:

    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers: Maybe if red states disarmed the majority of blue cities within their borders, crime would be down 90% in throughout the entire country.   Perfect examples being Philadelphia, Memphis, Nashville, Albuquerque, New Orleans, Montgomery, Birmingham, Tuscaloosa, and Jackson just to name a few. 100% Facts. Could that be due to the fact that a majority of people live in urban areas and not many people live in rural areas?  More people = more opportunity for crime The real reason crime is high is because people don't have jobs, hope, or direction.  Maybe instead of "disarming" blue cities, people should be finding out a way to bolster opportunities and give people direction?
      And that's " society's problem " , isn't it ?  Yours is a classic reply from the left w no real solution.    You want to give people opportunities and direction once they've become criminals.   That's often times too late.  The core of the problem is that inner-city youth grow up w no dad around,  and only a baby-momma to raise them.  Sorry,  but Dem policies encourage split families w welfare support for the baby momma.  There is plenty of data to support that welfare program  "" keep "" families poor, with no incentive to better their lives. So, for once, I'd like to see some real "pro active" solutions from the left to solve " society's problem "  The solutions aren't all that difficult  to figure out.  Putting forward the political will is.

    Yes it is society's problem and I did provide solutions.  You might be too overzealous to read in between the lines.  First and foremost, yes you are correct in stating that once they crossed the threshold into criminality, it is too late.  As for your crass stereotypical statements, there was a long line of events that led to this but I doubt you're ready or willing to hear that.  The solution going forward is to invest in these communities and provide opportunities to build real skills to allow them to develop it further.  People don't turn too criminality because it's joyous, they usually do it out of desperation and ignorance.  Human beings love to make issues more complicated than it actually is.  If people have honest work and the skills to work them, they will absolutely go that route over criminality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko:

    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers: Maybe if red states disarmed the majority of blue cities within their borders, crime would be down 90% in throughout the entire country.   Perfect examples being Philadelphia, Memphis, Nashville, Albuquerque, New Orleans, Montgomery, Birmingham, Tuscaloosa, and Jackson just to name a few. 100% Facts. Could that be due to the fact that a majority of people live in urban areas and not many people live in rural areas?  More people = more opportunity for crime The real reason crime is high is because people don't have jobs, hope, or direction.  Maybe instead of "disarming" blue cities, people should be finding out a way to bolster opportunities and give people direction?
      And that's " society's problem " , isn't it ?  Yours is a classic reply from the left w no real solution.    You want to give people opportunities and direction once they've become criminals.   That's often times too late.  The core of the problem is that inner-city youth grow up w no dad around,  and only a baby-momma to raise them.  Sorry,  but Dem policies encourage split families w welfare support for the baby momma.  There is plenty of data to support that welfare program  "" keep "" families poor, with no incentive to better their lives. So, for once, I'd like to see some real "pro active" solutions from the left to solve " society's problem "  The solutions aren't all that difficult  to figure out.  Putting forward the political will is.

    Yes it is society's problem and I did provide solutions.  You might be too overzealous to read in between the lines.  First and foremost, yes you are correct in stating that once they crossed the threshold into criminality, it is too late.  As for your crass stereotypical statements, there was a long line of events that led to this but I doubt you're ready or willing to hear that.  The solution going forward is to invest in these communities and provide opportunities to build real skills to allow them to develop it further.  People don't turn too criminality because it's joyous, they usually do it out of desperation and ignorance.  Human beings love to make issues more complicated than it actually is.  If people have honest work and the skills to work them, they will absolutely go that route over criminality.

     
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    @packersbackers

     I think you need to be specific in what policies you are referring to.  To make blanket statements leaves a lot to ascertain what you're getting at.  I don't want to assume your thoughts, but it does seem that people on the right side of the aisle believe there is a one size fits all to solution to everything.  When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

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    @packersbackers

     I think you need to be specific in what policies you are referring to.  To make blanket statements leaves a lot to ascertain what you're getting at.  I don't want to assume your thoughts, but it does seem that people on the right side of the aisle believe there is a one size fits all to solution to everything.  When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2025 - 12:26 AM ET #75

    Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko:

    When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

     

    thats the magas   

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko:

    When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

     

    thats the magas   

     

     

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