I mean we can drop pretense right? Seems as though Hillary is rushing to the left to match Sanders' popularity.
Is the facade finally done?
Are we really on the edge of becoming an overtly socialist country?
You won't hear a liberal use the term "socialism" when referring to their candidate. They'll say "Democratic Socialist" because it sounds warm and fuzzier.
Quote Originally Posted by rick3117:
I mean we can drop pretense right? Seems as though Hillary is rushing to the left to match Sanders' popularity.
Is the facade finally done?
Are we really on the edge of becoming an overtly socialist country?
You won't hear a liberal use the term "socialism" when referring to their candidate. They'll say "Democratic Socialist" because it sounds warm and fuzzier.
Capitalism will not work alone because it breeds greed. Socialism cannot work alone because it breeds laziness
Look around you. As it is now, the United States is a combination of capitalism and socialism. We a free market, along with many programs including social security.
If it wasn't for the fact they we defending so many other nations, we wouldn't have any national debt !
Capitalism will not work alone because it breeds greed. Socialism cannot work alone because it breeds laziness
Look around you. As it is now, the United States is a combination of capitalism and socialism. We a free market, along with many programs including social security.
If it wasn't for the fact they we defending so many other nations, we wouldn't have any national debt !
What do you morons think the definition of a socialist is?
Socialism is
a social and economic system characterized by social ownership and
control of the means of production and cooperative management of the
economy, as well as a political theory and movement that aims at the
establishment of such a system. -Wikipedia.
Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
What do you morons think the definition of a socialist is?
Socialism is
a social and economic system characterized by social ownership and
control of the means of production and cooperative management of the
economy, as well as a political theory and movement that aims at the
establishment of such a system. -Wikipedia.
Capitalism will not work alone because it breeds greed. Socialism cannot work alone because it breeds laziness
Look around you. As it is now, the United States is a combination of capitalism and socialism. We a free market, along with many programs including social security.
If it wasn't for the fact they we defending so many other nations, we wouldn't have any national debt !
I know, I wish that Obama hadn't expanded the war on terrorism. He also just extended the war in Afghanistan while nobody was looking.
500 Million dollars to give ISIS Toyota trucks????? the least Obama could have done is ship them Fords.
Quote Originally Posted by don juan:
Capitalism will not work alone because it breeds greed. Socialism cannot work alone because it breeds laziness
Look around you. As it is now, the United States is a combination of capitalism and socialism. We a free market, along with many programs including social security.
If it wasn't for the fact they we defending so many other nations, we wouldn't have any national debt !
I know, I wish that Obama hadn't expanded the war on terrorism. He also just extended the war in Afghanistan while nobody was looking.
500 Million dollars to give ISIS Toyota trucks????? the least Obama could have done is ship them Fords.
Capitalism will not work alone because it breeds greed. Socialism cannot work alone because it breeds laziness
Look around you. As it is now, the United States is a combination of capitalism and socialism. We a free market, along with many programs including social security.
If it wasn't for the fact they we defending so many other nations, we wouldn't have any national debt !
It really is kind of silly to say a guy who wants to be in charge of me wants to confiscate much more money from the American people by force, and that is somehow not greed.
Such a weird world.
Quote Originally Posted by don juan:
Capitalism will not work alone because it breeds greed. Socialism cannot work alone because it breeds laziness
Look around you. As it is now, the United States is a combination of capitalism and socialism. We a free market, along with many programs including social security.
If it wasn't for the fact they we defending so many other nations, we wouldn't have any national debt !
It really is kind of silly to say a guy who wants to be in charge of me wants to confiscate much more money from the American people by force, and that is somehow not greed.
Any of you right wingers that have NOT taken advantage of any social program?
GI Bill, VA Home loan. First time home buyer credit Child tax benefits.
I could go on.
What is your point?
That if someone takes advantage of social programs then they are morally compromised, and can not be critical of socialism?
That is exactly what the Paleo Conservatives talk about when they talked about the "poison pill" of social security.
We do not have a choice about Social Security, payroll taxes, paying into unemployment etc.
I don't personally think that it is all socialism, or absolutely no handouts, but it is interesting to see the implications of taking advantage of social programs. that I am somehow now "compromised".
Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:
Any of you right wingers that have NOT taken advantage of any social program?
GI Bill, VA Home loan. First time home buyer credit Child tax benefits.
I could go on.
What is your point?
That if someone takes advantage of social programs then they are morally compromised, and can not be critical of socialism?
That is exactly what the Paleo Conservatives talk about when they talked about the "poison pill" of social security.
We do not have a choice about Social Security, payroll taxes, paying into unemployment etc.
I don't personally think that it is all socialism, or absolutely no handouts, but it is interesting to see the implications of taking advantage of social programs. that I am somehow now "compromised".
GI Bill, VA Home loan. First time home buyer credit Child tax benefits.
I could go on.
What is your point?
That if someone takes advantage of social programs then they are morally compromised, and can not be critical of socialism?
That is exactly what the Paleo Conservatives talk about when they talked about the "poison pill" of social security.
We do not have a choice about Social Security, payroll taxes, paying into unemployment etc.
I don't personally think that it is all socialism, or absolutely no handouts, but it is interesting to see the implications of taking advantage of social programs. that I am somehow now "compromised".
The left despises the military so the benefits you received don't count. It doesn't matter that you sacrificed years of service. I've had this argument before.
They would rather you do nothing and get benefits in the name of social justice.
Quote Originally Posted by rick3117:
GI Bill, VA Home loan. First time home buyer credit Child tax benefits.
I could go on.
What is your point?
That if someone takes advantage of social programs then they are morally compromised, and can not be critical of socialism?
That is exactly what the Paleo Conservatives talk about when they talked about the "poison pill" of social security.
We do not have a choice about Social Security, payroll taxes, paying into unemployment etc.
I don't personally think that it is all socialism, or absolutely no handouts, but it is interesting to see the implications of taking advantage of social programs. that I am somehow now "compromised".
The left despises the military so the benefits you received don't count. It doesn't matter that you sacrificed years of service. I've had this argument before.
They would rather you do nothing and get benefits in the name of social justice.
Socialism is
a social and economic system characterized by social ownership and
control of the means of production and cooperative management of the
economy, as well as a political theory and movement that aims at the
establishment of such a system. -Wikipedia.
Banks and corporations control everything including the politicians and the military. I don't think you have to worry about this country becoming a socialist country.
Quote Originally Posted by rick3117:
Socialism is
a social and economic system characterized by social ownership and
control of the means of production and cooperative management of the
economy, as well as a political theory and movement that aims at the
establishment of such a system. -Wikipedia.
Banks and corporations control everything including the politicians and the military. I don't think you have to worry about this country becoming a socialist country.
The left despises the military so the benefits you received don't count. It doesn't matter that you sacrificed years of service. I've had this argument before.
They would rather you do nothing and get benefits in the name of social justice.
I think what the left despises is the money wasted on wars like Vietnam and Iraq. The left would rather see tax money go towards helping Americans instead of making a few people at Halliburton wealthy.
Quote Originally Posted by canovsp:
The left despises the military so the benefits you received don't count. It doesn't matter that you sacrificed years of service. I've had this argument before.
They would rather you do nothing and get benefits in the name of social justice.
I think what the left despises is the money wasted on wars like Vietnam and Iraq. The left would rather see tax money go towards helping Americans instead of making a few people at Halliburton wealthy.
Capitalism will not work alone because it breeds greed. Socialism cannot work alone because it breeds laziness
Look around you. As it is now, the United States is a combination of capitalism and socialism. We a free market, along with many programs including social security.
If it wasn't for the fact they we defending so many other nations, we wouldn't have any national debt !
A significant portion of the upper 1% get their wealth from inheritance. They have done nothing to deserve it or earn it other than simply be born. This is against one of the basic ideas of capitalism.
The solution? When a person dies, leave up to a set amount to their heirs (maybe 1 million or so, certainly a significant inheritance) and give the rest to the government.
The wealth is redistributed, and while the family of the deceased may complain, they really have no claim to the money whatsoever.
Quote Originally Posted by don juan:
Capitalism will not work alone because it breeds greed. Socialism cannot work alone because it breeds laziness
Look around you. As it is now, the United States is a combination of capitalism and socialism. We a free market, along with many programs including social security.
If it wasn't for the fact they we defending so many other nations, we wouldn't have any national debt !
A significant portion of the upper 1% get their wealth from inheritance. They have done nothing to deserve it or earn it other than simply be born. This is against one of the basic ideas of capitalism.
The solution? When a person dies, leave up to a set amount to their heirs (maybe 1 million or so, certainly a significant inheritance) and give the rest to the government.
The wealth is redistributed, and while the family of the deceased may complain, they really have no claim to the money whatsoever.
A significant portion of the upper 1% get their wealth from inheritance. They have done nothing to deserve it or earn it other than simply be born. This is against one of the basic ideas of capitalism.
The solution? When a person dies, leave up to a set amount to their heirs (maybe 1 million or so, certainly a significant inheritance) and give the rest to the government.
The wealth is redistributed, and while the family of the deceased may complain, they really have no claim to the money whatsoever.
I bolded some of the highlights of your post for others since I have no words...
Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:
A significant portion of the upper 1% get their wealth from inheritance. They have done nothing to deserve it or earn it other than simply be born. This is against one of the basic ideas of capitalism.
The solution? When a person dies, leave up to a set amount to their heirs (maybe 1 million or so, certainly a significant inheritance) and give the rest to the government.
The wealth is redistributed, and while the family of the deceased may complain, they really have no claim to the money whatsoever.
I bolded some of the highlights of your post for others since I have no words...
A significant portion of the upper 1% get their wealth from inheritance. They have done nothing to deserve it or earn it other than simply be born. This is against one of the basic ideas of capitalism.
The solution? When a person dies, leave up to a set amount to their heirs (maybe 1 million or so, certainly a significant inheritance) and give the rest to the government.
The wealth is redistributed, and while the family of the deceased may complain, they really have no claim to the money whatsoever.
Ladies and gentlemen, there you have it. The dumbest thing that has ever been put on the internet.
No Claim?
Sure, ok, just let me see the part of the Constitution that says that the government gets to confiscate your estate upon death.
You sound like a neo-Habsburgist.
Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:
A significant portion of the upper 1% get their wealth from inheritance. They have done nothing to deserve it or earn it other than simply be born. This is against one of the basic ideas of capitalism.
The solution? When a person dies, leave up to a set amount to their heirs (maybe 1 million or so, certainly a significant inheritance) and give the rest to the government.
The wealth is redistributed, and while the family of the deceased may complain, they really have no claim to the money whatsoever.
Ladies and gentlemen, there you have it. The dumbest thing that has ever been put on the internet.
No Claim?
Sure, ok, just let me see the part of the Constitution that says that the government gets to confiscate your estate upon death.
socialism beeves it takes a community and such the community must pay for the benefit of the good of the whole.
socialtic projects in America.....
roads, highways, airports,
schooling allowing any child a free education
public education
the military security and any other taxpayer funded project
does meet the narrowest definition of socialism.
careful as you throw about the wealth distribution argument because the federal income tax provision in constitution directly was made to take the largest monopolists money redistribute it for the greater good of the nation.
socialism beeves it takes a community and such the community must pay for the benefit of the good of the whole.
socialtic projects in America.....
roads, highways, airports,
schooling allowing any child a free education
public education
the military security and any other taxpayer funded project
does meet the narrowest definition of socialism.
careful as you throw about the wealth distribution argument because the federal income tax provision in constitution directly was made to take the largest monopolists money redistribute it for the greater good of the nation.
Ladies and gentlemen, there you have it. The dumbest thing that has ever been put on the internet.
No Claim?
Sure, ok, just let me see the part of the Constitution that says that the government gets to confiscate your estate upon death.
You sound like a neo-Habsburgist.
Wow Ricko, you are a real genius .
Think through what you said Bud ( above )
My answer.....If all the billionaires left their fortune to their children eventually we would wind up with 4 Kings, it may take 500 years but that's what would happen.
Here's a quote from Warren Buffet himself to the Gates foundation.
"I want to give my kids just enough so that they would feel that they could do anything, but not so much that they would feel like doing nothing."
Inheritance taxes solve that problem, but it's the greedy and selfish ones that want it all,.. and assault weapons because they think every wants their wealth.
Quote Originally Posted by rick3117:
Ladies and gentlemen, there you have it. The dumbest thing that has ever been put on the internet.
No Claim?
Sure, ok, just let me see the part of the Constitution that says that the government gets to confiscate your estate upon death.
You sound like a neo-Habsburgist.
Wow Ricko, you are a real genius .
Think through what you said Bud ( above )
My answer.....If all the billionaires left their fortune to their children eventually we would wind up with 4 Kings, it may take 500 years but that's what would happen.
Here's a quote from Warren Buffet himself to the Gates foundation.
"I want to give my kids just enough so that they would feel that they could do anything, but not so much that they would feel like doing nothing."
Inheritance taxes solve that problem, but it's the greedy and selfish ones that want it all,.. and assault weapons because they think every wants their wealth.
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